| Hello fellow cultured individuals. Today I pose another question for all of you. What are your thoughts on Yaoi and shounen ai? I really like shounen ai. I'm trying to delve more into the world little by little and enjoy many of its anime at my own pace. Yaoi I am less experienced with as an art form. We know in other ways I'm an expert ;) But yeah, do you like, love, dislike or even loathe the onslaught of the gay anime boys. |
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| Not my cup of tea, but I'm not the target audience anyway. |
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eastsip said: I've been called a fujoshi, maybe that says something by itself. I just like good romance in general, good BL is a good romance, so I like it. I've been called a fujoshi for liking Otome games. I know the feel. |
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| The only yaoi I like is yaoi created by Legend of Zelda fans. |
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| Okay, I'm not entirely aware of the difference between the two. I guess shounen ai is more for women? Anyways, I've only seen yaoi. There isn't a whole lot of it out there (at least compared to Yuri). I guess I like it. I find something about it oddly attractive. |
| Yaoi is romance between male characters which may or may not have physical relationship. For the umpteenth time, Shounen-ai is sexual relationship between an adult women and an underage boy and a sub-genre of Hentai. As for my interest, I watch none because neither interests me. |
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| Its just counterpart of Yuri/Shojo Ai that towards mostly to female audience Nothing special.. |
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| love it, but i'm having trouble finding some good ones. can anyone be a bruh and hmu with a list of recs please? |
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IpreferEcchi said: The only yaoi I like is yaoi created by Legend of Zelda fans. That sounds like it would be saucy. @shanimebib and I will give you the benefit of the doubt and say you are yanking my chain when I should be yanking yours. |
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| Never watched any because I am afraid my wee wee may go woo-hoo. |
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HeruruMeruru said: Wicker_Senpai93 said: Okay, I'm not entirely aware of the difference between the two. I guess shounen ai is more for women? Anyways, I've only seen yaoi. There isn't a whole lot of it out there (at least compared to Yuri). I guess I like it. I find something about it oddly attractive. yaoi=Sexually explicit male/male anime, manga, and visual novels for a female audience, this term is rarely used in Japan anymore. Shounen ai: Non-explicit homoerotic shojo or josei manga and anime. Again this term is rarely used in Japan anymore and has fallen out of favor in the west as well. In Japan the entire spectrum is just referred to as "BL" and the "for a female audience" is the key part of the definition of BL, therefore bara and otokonoko stuff is not BL. Thanks for explaining it for me, saved me the effort. |
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HeruruMeruru said: Wicker_Senpai93 said: Okay, I'm not entirely aware of the difference between the two. I guess shounen ai is more for women? Anyways, I've only seen yaoi. There isn't a whole lot of it out there (at least compared to Yuri). I guess I like it. I find something about it oddly attractive. yaoi=Sexually explicit male/male anime, manga, and visual novels for a female audience, this term is rarely used in Japan anymore. Shounen ai: Non-explicit homoerotic shojo or josei manga and anime. Again this term is rarely used in Japan anymore and has fallen out of favor in the west as well. In Japan the entire spectrum is just referred to as "BL" and the "for a female audience" is the key part of the definition of BL, therefore bara and otokonoko stuff is not BL. Thanks for the explanation. I'm not super familiar with the terminology. |
| Its just counterpart of Yuri/Shojo Ai that towards mostly to female audience Nothing special.. |
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Juccu said: I like it. It has some great shows here and there but im not really into yaoi. Even though i haven't watched much GIVEN was a great show last season and very enjoyable. Given surprised me. I didn't think I would enjoy it near as much as I did. Can't wait for the movie. @Bakchos It's okay. We were all there at some point, and look at me now.I'm clearly well adjusted individual. |
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| I have a strange relationship with it. I'd like to say I love mature, well-thought-out gay ships (a la Mo Dao Zu Shi), even if it is only fanon (i.e. xxxHolic), and I don't like shows that focus purely on the physical. But then there's stuff like Junjou Romantic that walk the line between sweet relationship and pure (sexy) smut that I also love. And then, to take it a step further, there's stuff like Killing Stalking, like we were talking about. And of course, there are the shows that are just straight-up boring/bad (which is, sadly, a good amount)... I think I'm more defined by what I don't ship: Ciel/Sebastian (I'm not one for shota ships) Ritsu/Soubi (for the same reason) Alastor/Angel Dust (I love the "Angel flirts, Alastor rejects" dynamic, but for any fan art that shows them making out (or more) ... e.e Alastor is ace, and therefore he wouldn't do that. Odd frenemieship? Yes. Literal relationship? No). There's probably more I can say, but my brain is poop at the moment o(*^▽^*)o |
OfDeathandLove said: I have a strange relationship with it. I'd like to say I love mature, well-thought-out gay ships (a la Mo Dao Zu Shi), even if it is only fanon (i.e. xxxHolic), and I don't like shows that focus purely on the physical. But then there's stuff like Junjou Romantic that walk the line between sweet relationship and pure (sexy) smut that I also love. And then, to take it a step further, there's stuff like Killing Stalking, like we were talking about. And of course, there are the shows that are just straight-up boring/bad (which is, sadly, a good amount)... I think I'm more defined by what I don't ship: Ciel/Sebastian (I'm not one for shota ships) Ritsu/Soubi (for the same reason) Alastor/Angel Dust (I love the "Angel flirts, Alastor rejects" dynamic, but for any fan art that shows them making out (or more) ... e.e Alastor is ace, and therefore he wouldn't do that. Odd frenemieship? Yes. Literal relationship? No). There's probably more I can say, but my brain is poop at the moment o(*^▽^*)o I'm just here taking notes on things I haven't seen yet, lol. |
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| I'm well-known as a fudanshi around here, so I definitely like BL, especially light-hearted, romantic shounen-ai. I try to stay away from smut, though. |
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Alpha_Tranny said: I'm just here taking notes on things I haven't seen yet, lol. Don't worry, I'm about to slam you with recs ೭੧(❛▿❛✿)੭೨ |
| I don't have a fetish for rape and Stockholm syndrome, the characters being gay or sometimes selectively and questionably gay doesn't make it an exception to that rule so overall I dislike shounen-ai and hate yaoi. It would have been quite a different story if the genre had more series like Given and less of rapey stuff like Junjou Romantica but the genre has reached a point where simply having a healthy relationship would be praised even if it's otherwise uninteresting and bland. |
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Maou_heika said: I don't have a fetish for rape and Stockholm syndrome, the characters being gay or sometimes selectively and questionably gay doesn't make it an exception to that rule so overall I dislike shounen-ai and hate yaoi. It would have been quite a different story if the genre had more series like Given and less of rapey stuff like Junjou Romantica but the genre has reached a point where simply having a healthy relationship would be praised even if it's otherwise uninteresting and bland. Given is nice and all but the kinky fetishy nonsense is pretty great. |
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Alpha_Tranny said: Like I said not my fetish, when it comes to romance I just prefer the fluffier sweet/cute and mutual relationships.Maou_heika said: I don't have a fetish for rape and Stockholm syndrome, the characters being gay or sometimes selectively and questionably gay doesn't make it an exception to that rule so overall I dislike shounen-ai and hate yaoi. It would have been quite a different story if the genre had more series like Given and less of rapey stuff like Junjou Romantica but the genre has reached a point where simply having a healthy relationship would be praised even if it's otherwise uninteresting and bland. Given is nice and all but the kinky fetishy nonsense is pretty great. |
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| I have no opinion. I've yet to see a shounen-ai anime. I read some tho out of curiosity but most of them were just okay-ish. Yaoi is on a whole other level I wish not to watch or read. |
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| The last time I saw a yaoi was boku no pico. And it was pretty good shit. and if the traps count, everything is perfect. |
| I don't care for it, but if you like it, it's fine. Just keep it away from me because i don't wanna see it. |
abt130 said: I don't care for it, but if you like it, it's fine. Just keep it away from me because i don't wanna see it. You cannot escape the gays, you never will! |
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Alpha_Tranny said: abt130 said: I don't care for it, but if you like it, it's fine. Just keep it away from me because i don't wanna see it. You cannot escape the gays, you never will! Scary... Well, I'm not necessarily straight but I just don't like yaoi |
| I'll admit I love reading yaoi and shounen ai, it's a bit of a guilty pleasure. I've read so much of it that almost none has made it onto my manga list since I can't remember what I've read and what I haven't. I feel like yaoi has a lot of what I find to be kind of disgusting relationship dynamics like siblings relationships or ones that stem from forms of rape or sexual harassment but so do lots of other genres so I don't really have anything against it. |
| I don´t know how to explain it,but I feel like I connect emotionally towards shounen Ai/Yaoi relationships in anime/manga more than other kinds ,so eh it´s a preference. |
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| Yaoi is sinful. Yuri is the only form of degeneracy that Jesus, Óðinn, Perun, Perkunas, Tengri, Allah, YHWH and Ahura Mazda approve. |
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| I formed an opinion quite a bit ago where I never hated the idea of Yaoi or Shounen Ai, I just hated the execution. I kept seeing the same Yaoi format but only tiny differences like taking a piece of Yaoi and basically remaking it but instead the Seme is the Uke, the Uke wears glasses, or other such changes that don't warrant new works. Also I do not have great opinions on the art I've seen. I really don't like shitting on artists who make a living in niche communities because that in itself is admirable, but man there's too many examples of bad Yaoi art with the weirdest body proportions. Hopefully my opinion is outdated now and you Yaoi fans actually get better shit than what I saw a decade or so ago. |
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| I actually haven't seen or read any yaoi. I have nothing against it, but it just doesn't specifically interest me. I also have no problem with yuri. I've watched and enjoyed Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid and the first season of YuruYuri (I'm currently reading the manga version of the former and watching the second season of the latter). |
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| I like some and dislike most. There was a time when I was "questioning" and yaoi was a gateway. The degree to which sexual abuse is seen as normal in those rather repulses me nowadays. |
| What little I have dared to see (for good reason) in anime, the majority of content is explicit in nature and has some level of submission-dominance involved. There is more prominent sexual content in yaoi, but the genre is limited in anime so I can't speak much for it. Shonen-ai (literally "boys-love". I saw someone complaining about the specifics of the genre and I had to point out this word usage is probably only a disambiguation like "hentai") appears to be a more cultivated relationship. However most have some twist to drive the story toward a sub-dom relationship, as mentioned before. There is more mainstream content in recent years that has cultivated more "healthy" relations that feel natural instead of forced. The most prominent is, of course, being Yuri!! on Ice (although not labeled as either in its genres) and the most recent being Given. There is also Doukyuusei, which forced me to accept the genre can have good content. If I got anything wrong, it is likely due to misconceptions of the genres in general. The original poster did ask for our thoughts, after all. |
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| This opinion is based off the only 2 yaoi anime I have watched. And they were fucking horrible. I dropped Yuri on Ice 8 episodes in, I felt like strangling all the characters and mentally cringed at every interaction between the main characters. The 2nd yaoi was an absolute horror, sat through all 12 episodes just because it was on crunchyroll; DAKAICHI. To put it simple gay sex and rape then become lovers and more gay sex. Disturbing in every way possible and the characters were horrid. One main character is a tsundere and just loves being sexually assulted by the other dude but at the same time doesn't consent to it and whines. Also the actual name for the yaoi is 'DAKAICHI -I'm being harassed by the sexiest man of the year-' which basically explains the story. Put it simply yaoi is fucking disgusting. |
| What am I if I only like the crossdressing part of it |
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| @Savasvania those two entirely butchered the genre for me, I'm too petrified to try any more yaoi. |
| I have enjoyed yaoi anime like: Love Stage Super Lovers Gravitation And have the acquired taste necessary for Shounen Ai anime like: Legend of Duo Loveless Iron-Blooded Orphans Yuri on Ice |
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