how unforgiving are you?
| todays capitalism in steroids (too much competition) makes a lot of people perfectionist to the point of being unforgiving to their selves and others, one small mistake in your wage slave job for example and you are fired, one old wrong social media post that people found out and all hell will break loose on you too, etc so how unforgiving are you? i try to forgive as much as possible since its not healthy although my scumbag brain is usually unforgiving your other thoughts about this too? |
degNov 10, 2019 5:38 AM
| If the person is capable of learning from his previous mistakes, then there is not one reason for me to not forgive him. But if the person is determined to be a failure, then it doesn't really matter much does it? |
Yarub said: If the person is capable of learning from his previous mistakes, then there is not one reason for me to not forgive him. But if the person is determined to be a failure, then it doesn't really matter much does it? i guess what matters now is how much unforgiving the treatment is ye i partially made this thread when i saw the absurd thread and learn from your profile comments that bans are incoming lol you all need jesus for forgiveness |
| That clause in the second option was unnecessary deg. You need to create a fourth option. I tend to forgive other people but NOT including myself. |
| I'm of those who forgive but never forget. |
  “The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
| I'm a forgiver in almost all cases because I have some personal beliefs guiding me to forgiveness, it does me no good to keep anger bottled up. I say that, but there's some shit I can't get around to forgiving. Although, given enough time, I think I'd forgive these things too. I never forgive myself, though, no matter how much effort I put into it. |
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deg said: How unforgiving the treatment can be is only determined by how extreme the action was.Yarub said: If the person is capable of learning from his previous mistakes, then there is not one reason for me to not forgive him. But if the person is determined to be a failure, then it doesn't really matter much does it? i guess what matters now is how much unforgiving the treatment is ye i partially made this thread when i saw the absurd thread and learn from your profile comments that bans are incoming lol you all need jesus for forgiveness If I go down, I will go as a martyr. |
Yarub said: Don't go down, my Arabian Prince. I We will miss your high IQ intellect.If I go down, I will go as a martyr. |
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if youre banned i doubt it will be permanent MAL moderation is usually forgiving lol |
| I always tried to forgive others. But, i never tried to forgive myself. It hurts but it's better if nobody is harmed. |
  Wandering Witch is the best light novel ever! |
| Mine most likely will be... I mean how does one go around asking for people to be "dealt with" in a certain manner without getting permed? lol |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
| @Luchse welp brigading is against the rules i mean the MAL Club CD 2.0 have done it a lot in the past and the members of theirs that did that often get banned but i still see them sometimes so they are not permanently banned and i also heard some of them uses discord to scheme things on MAL forums but i would not recommend it |
deg said: Shhh... I'm a good boy and I've done nothing "wrong". ;)@Luchse welp brigading is against the rules i mean the MAL Club CD 2.0 have done it a lot in the past and the members of theirs that did that often get banned but i still see them sometimes so they are not permanently banned and i also heard some of them uses discord to scheme things on MAL forums but i would not recommend it |
“The most shameless thing in the world is political power that can be inherited regardless of ability or talent!” |
| I only associate with decent people, so nobody ever does anything that would warrant forgiveness anyway. |
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| that poll result so far the self is the worst enemy they say so i can relate to why self-forgiveness is too hard |
| It can be difficult for me to forgive others unless they show what I consider genuine remorse, and it may not possible depending on the action. Yes I can be petty. I don't mean in regards to those stupid purity tests though. All people are awful under the surface so chastising others when they see a crack is just self-righteous nonsense. It's better for people to be more forgiving because it does not encourage such superficial appearances, as not being so prevents real change and simply makes people hide what they are really like to the majority. |
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deg said: that poll result so far the self is the worst enemy they say so i can relate to why self-forgiveness is too hard You can forgive others since you do not know them well and you don't know the reasoning behind their actions. But you know yourself. And its hard to forgive yourself with that knowledge. Also if you forgive yourself everything easily, you can justify everything, even crime (internally). |
| i may act like i forgave you but most likely i'l get back at you someday most of the time :) |
| forgive but don't forget, that's my motto~ being forgotten is sad T~T |
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| I forgive really easily. The only time I won't forgive someone is if they purposely tried to hurt me or my family, or if they cheated on me. |
| i'm very spiteful, but only to those i deem deserve it because they have done something very wrong. but other than that i'm very critical of myself but still open to forgive myself? i just don't think i'm a bad person so i can forgive myself, and i forgive my friends easily because i trust them i have a very good memory tho so if someone spited me i will never forget it but i don't bother with people i don't even know |
| Why so many options with only "try to" instead of "do" or "will" forgive? I'm not the type to bear grudges, except for if someone did something extremely outrageous, which hasn't happened so far. I still regret the mistakes I did, but it's not like I would constantly blame myself for them, either, so I'm forgiving to myself, too. |
| I forgive most people pretty easily, but that doesn't mean I'll suddenly like them. It took me some time to make this distinction, but I think it's important to note that regardless of which side you're on (the one forgiving or the one being forgiven), you can still dislike each other. Forgiveness just means that you won't hold someone's actions against them, meaning you won't retalliate either, but you're not obligated to suddenly enjoy their company more. |
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| im the "forgive but dont forget" cliche basically |
 I AM THE ONE CALLED POWER! How foolish and conceited these humans be... |
RandomFriday said: deg said: that poll result so far the self is the worst enemy they say so i can relate to why self-forgiveness is too hard You can forgive others since you do not know them well and you don't know the reasoning behind their actions. But you know yourself. And its hard to forgive yourself with that knowledge. Also if you forgive yourself everything easily, you can justify everything, even crime (internally). ye but im more talking about the simple everyday negative thinking or chronic guilt/shame/self-doubt or even self-hatred especially those who have anxiety and even worse conditions |
| I just don't know how to forgive. If there is something that the other person did wrong for some reason I always think about it and how the other parson could have dome better in their judgement. It's worse when it puts not only me, but a bunch of other people in an awkward situation. It's really dumb and I should learn how to forgive. On a scale? Maybe 1/10 |
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Noboru said: Why so many options with only "try to" instead of "do" or "will" forgive? I'm not the type to bear grudges, except for if someone did something extremely outrageous, which hasn't happened so far. I still regret the mistakes I did, but it's not like I would constantly blame myself for them, either, so I'm forgiving to myself, too. im avoiding the all or nothing (black and white thinking) thats why i choose the "try to" wording |
| I will always give someone another chance to redeem themselves. Only exception is murder, sexual assault, displaying an innate lack of empathy, or committing wrongdoings several times with no sign of them trying to change themselves for the better. Unfortunately the internet is chalk full of the last two (and a surprising amount of the third) so my faith in humanity is quickly declining. |
deg said: "try to" sounds so negative, like in a reference letter:im avoiding the all or nothing (black and white thinking) thats why i choose the "try to" wording "he tried to work his best" = "he failed horrible" "will" is giving an intention |
| I'm pretty unforgiving, even though on the surface, I will not let it show. I don't believe in the sugarcoating of "I forgive, but I don't forget", because that means precisely that you are not forgiving after all. |
If life ain't just a joke Then why are we laughing? If life ain't just a joke Then why am I dead? |
Noboru said: deg said: "try to" sounds so negative, like in a reference letter:im avoiding the all or nothing (black and white thinking) thats why i choose the "try to" wording "he tried to work his best" = "he failed horrible" "will" is giving an intention ye in capitalism it is seen as negative although in psychology should statements are bad https://www.verywellmind.com/should-statements-2584193 |
deg said: I haven't suggested using "should", because that would imply a moral obligation. And "try to" still sounds as a poor alternative compared to "I will do my best" or just "I('m) do(ing) my best"ye in capitalism it is seen as negative although in psychology should statements are bad https://www.verywellmind.com/should-statements-2584193 There might be some relation with speaking a language with weak future tense reference and one with strong future tense reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4506144/ |
Noboru said: deg said: I haven't suggested using "should", because that would imply a moral obligation. And "try to" still sounds as a poor alternative compared to "I will do my best" or just "I('m) do(ing) my best"ye in capitalism it is seen as negative although in psychology should statements are bad https://www.verywellmind.com/should-statements-2584193 There might be some relation with speaking a language with weak future tense reference and one with strong future tense reference: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4506144/ ok im bad with language especially english and that link is interesting but too damn long to read |
deg said: Then think of how you would phrase it in Tagalog and compare a very faithful translation with how you would phrase it by thinking in English directlyok im bad with language especially english and that link is interesting but too damn long to read Here's a shorter one: https://qz.com/191706/the-language-your-company-speaks-might-influence-how-it-behaves/ |
Noboru said: deg said: Then think of how you would phrase it in Tagalog and compare a very faithful translation with how you would phrase it by thinking in English directlyok im bad with language especially english and that link is interesting but too damn long to read Here's a shorter one: https://qz.com/191706/the-language-your-company-speaks-might-influence-how-it-behaves/ im also bad with tagalog lol i just do not care much about proper grammar so the use of "will be" is bad? or english is bad for capitalism? thats interesting |
| For the most part, I'm pretty forgiving. I'm not easily upset, and I don't like to dwell on things and don't even have a good enough memory to hold grudges. But it's entirely dependent on the person and situation. |
LunaEstlinNov 10, 2019 7:39 PM
 It’s okay to look back at the past, just don’t stare too long |
| Dependent on what was done, the intent behind it, and how much the damage was. |
| "In the end the World really doesn't need a Superman. Just a Brave one" |
| I write it off the first couple of times. If they become a repeat offender, I shun them, which is surprisingly effective in a professional environment. |
| I honestly forgive too easily to others and never to myself. Ouch |
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| Once or twice is kind Three or four is blind |
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| I don't forget or forgive anything major like someone cheating on me. Things like arranging to meet up and then forgetting are fine as long as it doesn't become a theme. A neighbour tried to screw me over once, she failed and then was sending me Christmas cards and trying to talk to me but I will never forget or forgive. |
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