Ranpyone said: Why do anime fans seem to hate eachother so much? So that we can feel superior to other weebs by having a unique and unpopular opinion. |
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| Because they are few stupids viewers who claimed that an anime is superior than the others. And generally they took a bad one. Ranpyone said: Seems counterproductive imo. It is. But people don't like when others praise an anime they don't like. |
| Because this is internet, and you can't have all the positives in any form of community whatsoever. Oddly enough, I find anime community to be one of the least "toxic", but that's just me. |
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| tribalism "us vs them" mentality is part of human nature so make a common goal like a common enemy to unite the anime fandom like maybe hollywood fans vs anime fans |
| This does happen because of somebody. People see this one person fighting over these insignificant things and they do the same, to which is a literal waste of time. There isn't a concrete reason. It just happens. |
| I don't think that's true. It's all in the name of fun. All off the dudes and dudettes i've encountered so far were kind enough people with a good sense of humor |
| People like to argue over meaningless things. |
| Jolyne Kuujou + Steel Ball Run Universe = Billie Eillish |
| It's just bullshit. Whether you hate it or love it,it's not gonna check the fact by just a single person. |
| "When they're alive, you can enjoy watching them struggle. When they're dead, you can enjoy tearing out their guts. Tales are things you get to enjoy twice." |
| Nah, they don't hate each other, it's just that people have a big mouth on the internet in general. |
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| Why does "insert random Fandom" hate each other? |
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| No, because it's a war zone out here. |
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| I don't hate any of y'all beautiful motherfuckers so...Love u. |
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| The basilisk screeches when presented with a mirror. |
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Mattinator95 said: Shitaste said: Because this is internet, and you can't have all the positives in any form of community whatsoever. Oddly enough, I find anime community to be one of the least "toxic", but that's just me. Strange I've seen people call it the most toxic and thats coming from the movie community ... Ironic That's on them. The only part I really hate about this community is shipping wars or any controversial dilemma to the plot, to the point they'd send death threats to the creators. Movie community is just divided into two subgroups anyway: marvel and non-marvel. |
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| You mean unite and wallow in self-pity uWu anime is trash and so am I let's fap to traps and lolis |
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| It’s simple, anime/manga/novel community is pretty bad. I'm in different communities but this community is one of the worst and that’s a very sad thing. In all these years that’s the answer I found. |
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| I would like nothing more than to be buddy buddy with people who share my hobby. The thing is now in the 2010s what it means to be an anime fan means different things to different people. Watch "Gigguk the anime zone" to hear in greater detail. |
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| The larger a fanbase is, the more inner groups develop. And then those inner groups fight. |
| It's because there isn't really anything that ties 'anime fans' together. It's a vague term. Most people just like a small subset of anime, a few specific genres, but somehow everyone just gets the one label of 'anime fan', giving the illusion that we are all into the same thing when we really aren't. People enter the 'anime fandom' with the expectation to find like-minded individuals, people who are into the same stuff as they are but then reality kicks in and they realize that anime fans are just as varied as any other group of people and that can be frustrating for people who crave this sense of 'unity' that you're talking about. So the infighting starts, with every 'fan', every fandom claiming that they are doing it 'right'. And that's just talking about taste in anime. Let's not even start on the ideological and political divide that goes through the anime fandom. Or the sheer amount of unbearable personalities that just make me want to have nothing to do with certain people. There's always a ton of reasons why people don't get along with each other and liking some subset of a huge medium like anime doesn't change that at all. So yeah, 'anime fandom' is just an umbrella term, it says nothing about liking the same kind of stuff or being like-minded in any way, or having anything in common at all. I've been very active in this community for almost 10 years now and I found maybe a dozen people during all that time who had a similar mindset and similar interests in anime and weren't assholes. It's hard to find likable people to get along with. The vast majority is satisfied just marking and glorifying their specific territory, their genres and types of shows, their taste, while usually looking down on anything else. That way they at least get that 'sense of unity' from their smaller sub-fandoms, because the anime community as a whole can't provide it. So they flock together based on niche interests. Fujoshi, Ecchi-fans, oldfags, shounen casuals, moe fans, critical viewers, people who dig the whole subculture with anime only being the top of the iceberg. Most of these groups have more in common with their equivalents from other mediums than they do with other groups of anime fans. If you're like me and have a holistic but not exclusive interest in anime, an open mind for everything and don't like it when people shit on stuff in generalized ways, you'll never find a sense of community because it only exists in these almost tribal niche fandoms which often define themselves more by what they dislike than by what they like. Shitting on the other fans is part of what gives them a sense of identity as a group. It's a bit like street gangs, what color you hate is almost as important as what color you wear, if not moreso. And if you reject those niche fandoms because you are into anime as a whole and can't stand the infighting, like I do, you always just feel like a visitor whereever you go, floating around the community and making friends here and there but never belonging anywhere because there exists no community for fans like that. It's too vague. For a sense of unity and community you need more specific interests than a vague and generalized interest in animation from Japan. It's like saying 'I like politics in general without any specific interests. Which party should I join?'. No, there isn't. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I felt that same way when i first joined MAL which is crazy cause now idgaf |
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| Because people can never agree with everyone on everything. |
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| I don't see what the big deal is, fighting occurs in pretty much every large community there is, regardless of the topic/hobby. It hardly applies to just anime |
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Ranpyone said: shouldn't we stick together - Yeah, try to stick together with a JoJo fan...you will attempt to murder him/her after 5 minutes preventing another "It was me, Dio!" joke. - Try to reason with a SAO fan. - Try persuade a battle shounen fan to watch something different. - Try to tell a millennial or z gen to have patience with shows made before 2000...at least for 3-5 episodes until he/she get used to the aesthetics. - Try to tell a DBZ fan that there is such thing as DB. ... Quite impossible if you ask me. |
alshuSep 27, 2019 1:36 AM
alshu said: I don't see why we should demand that people have the same opinions on individual shows.Ranpyone said: shouldn't we stick together - Yeah, try to stick together with a JoJo fan...you will attempt to murder him/her after 5 minutes preventing another "It was me, Dio!" joke. - Try to reason with a SAO fan. - Try persuade a battle shounen fan to watch something different. - Try to tell a millennial or z gen to have patience with shows made before 2000...at least for 3-5 episodes until he/she get used to the aesthetics. - Try to tell a DBZ fan that there is such thing as DB. ... Quite impossible if you ask me. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| It's because 'anime' is a ridiculously broad thing to have a fandom. Anyone who is a fan of both Card Captor Sakura and Now and Then, Here and There, or both Angel's Egg and Dragon Half, or both Princess Tutu and Kill La Kill must be insane. *Hides list.* It's a similar phenomenon to Doctor Who fandom, but even worse. Two different anime can have dimaetrically opposed values and interests in every possible way, there aren't really any traits which anime fans will all have in common. |
GlennMagusHarvey said: I don't see why we should demand that people have the same opinions on individual shows. It's the other way around actually: JoJo fans can't stop talking about it, SAO fans demanding respect for SAO and being offended when they don't get it, battle shounen fans judging every other show through battle shounen logic, newer fans thinking that the current aesthetics are the ultimate ones despite having very vague idea about them (now there are wide varieties of styles, artistic choices and artistic tools which cannot be generalized that easily...thus those guys go with the date of release as a criterium)... You can't talk with those people because you can't find common therms with them. |
alshuSep 27, 2019 2:08 AM
| Those anime fans sure are a contentious bunch. |
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| I don't think that's a bad thing to be honest, just like video games, movies or shows people like to argue wich one is the best and why. There's nothing wrong with two people arguing over something they love. But of course when some people start mocking other people because of their tastes that's when it goes too far, for example : the vocal minority of the JoJo community or that one time Ninja posted a tweet about how Kimetsu No Yaiba might be his favorite anime and the all internet decided that he was the clown of the day. Anime isn't very niche anymore, everyone knows that it exists, so there's bound to be some toxicity, that's just because some people are just bad from the start, and some people are literal 10 year olds (anime is cartoon so it attracts a lot of children obviously), that's when the debate just turns into a death match. If there wasn't any debate over wich is the best show, waifu, etc, it would be pretty boring, I mean as long as everyone respects each other's opinions. |
OcalinoSep 27, 2019 2:21 AM
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| because the only way for nerds to feel better about themselves is to look down on nerds they feel are "less cringey" then they are so they act as though its "normal" people that hate anime and its fans, and not other anime watchers, which is actually the case |
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alshu said: Besides the fact that I know at least several JoJo fans who are quite capable of talking about things other than JoJo, and the SAO hatedom being frankly kinda obnoxious, and so on...GlennMagusHarvey said: I don't see why we should demand that people have the same opinions on individual shows. It's the other way around actually: JoJo fans can't stop talking about it, SAO fans demanding respect for SAO and being offended when they don't get it, battle shounen fans judging every other show through battle shounen logic, newer fans thinking that the current aesthetics are the ultimate ones despite having very vague idea about them (now there are wide varieties of styles, artistic choices and artistic tools which cannot be generalized that easily...thus those guys go with the date of release as a criterium)... You can't talk with those people because you can't find common therms with them. I get how one might be disappointed in not having much of common themes to talk about with them, but that's just what happens when people use something as "ridiculously broad" as anime for a fandom focus, as @logopolis observes. But everyone has their stuff that they just like or don't like watching. I just don't see a need to pull someone away from their love of battle shounens, or whatever it may be. @Ocalino I definitely agree. Disagreements and even arguments can be quite fun as long as people stay within the realm of honor and reason. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| Honestly despite the idiots out there the anime fanbase is probably one of the least "toxic" fandoms I have been apart of. As for why a lot fans don't get a long to be honest we shouldn't really think that there is such a thing as a universal anime community. The only thing we have connecting one another is well all like (at least I hope you do) Japanese animation or comics. These stories however can vary drastically and so anime tends to attract different kinds of people to it who honestly might have nothing else in common with each other. Genre, creators are more what people actually can gather around vs say just liking a medium. Honestly I think some of the major conflicts in this "fanbase" is just "fans" fighting over what they think anime should be. AKA make more stuff that I personally like and I don't care about x so stop making it. Also there is a difference between talking or critiquing something and someone just bashing a show or someone else. You can have honest disagreements (surprising I know) with people that hate the show you like or like the show you hate. Those conversations if anything can be the most interesting if your willing to open up more so than just more validation for something you already know you like. That type of conversation can get stale after a time because you usually share the same opinion. Though yes when it delves into personal attacks or the person doesn't even try to understand your view though sure that's when it can get annoying. That isn't specific to this fanbase though. |
BilboBaggins365Sep 27, 2019 3:15 AM
GlennMagusHarvey said: Besides the fact that I know at least several JoJo fans who are quite capable of talking about things other than JoJo Wow, really? And they don't reference JoJo with absolutely no reason like every third sentence or so? GlennMagusHarvey said: the SAO hatedom being frankly kinda obnoxious So you go around the issue redirecting me to the "Hating SAO is baaad!' topic? Replace it with MHA or AOT than, I was just using a popular example. GlennMagusHarvey said: But everyone has their stuff that they just like or don't like watching. OK but admit that pushing their favourites in any possible conversation is kind of a killjoy. GlennMagusHarvey said: I just don't see a need to pull someone away from their love of battle shounens, or whatever it may be. As mentioned above it's the other way around - a lot of those fans see every other anime as some sort of badly conceived battle shounen which lacks levelling up, tournament arcs, long "Mamoru!" monologues, needless flashbacks + recaps and absurdly slow nonsensical battles. |
alshuSep 27, 2019 4:20 AM
| It's not surprising, imagine a music site, you'd have heavy metal, indy, classical, acoustic all thinking their tastes were better. So instead those sites are split up into sections. Things would be more harmonious if we had an Ecchi, comedy, mecha etc site for each different taste. |
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alshu said: There is a difference between hating something and extremely hating something. I think that's what Glenn wanted to say.GlennMagusHarvey said: Besides the fact that I know at least several JoJo fans who are quite capable of talking about things other than JoJo Wow, really? And they don't reference JoJo with absolutely no reason like every third sentence or so? GlennMagusHarvey said: the SAO hatedom being frankly kinda obnoxious So you go around the issue redirecting me to the "Hating SAO is baaad!' topic? Replace it with MHA or AOT than, I was just using a popular example. GlennMagusHarvey said: But everyone has their stuff that they just like or don't like watching. OK but admit that pushing their favourites in any possible conversation is kind of a killjoy. GlennMagusHarvey said: I just don't see a need to pull someone away from their love of battle shounens, or whatever it may be. As mentioned above it's the other way around - a lot of those fans see every other anime as some sort of badly conceived battle shounen which lacks levelling up, tournament arcs, long "Mamoru!" monologues, needless flashbacks + recaps and absurdly slow nonsensical battles. |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
| Because of elitism, some people just want to feel superior over the other. We have elitist vs casuals, old anime vs modern anime etc. |
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