| Recently, there was a special event for Macross series fans All Macross Big Voting, where they could vote for their favorite characters, mecha, song (music is a big part of franchise), and what is their favorite entry in franchise, in general. https://www.nhk.or.jp/anime/macross https://www.crunchyroll.com/de/anime-news/2019/05/04/nhks-all-macross-big-voting-results-are-in-macross-frontier-wins-the-crown  On the picture are some of the most important people from various entries in series, but, obviously, in center are two most iconic ones, creator Shoji Kawamori, and former voice actress Mari Iijima who voiced perhaps the most famous Macross character Lynn Minmay, and also sung all her songs. Minmay also remained something of a legend in various sequels over the years, and her songs were performed by new characters. I would even say that out of all long running series that I saw, Minmay is one of very few female characters who stayed very important, or simply left some influence on future events, and people in it. Incidenatally, this Macross event reminded me that currently, it is about exactly 10 years since I got into this, IMO, amazing franchise. I watched most of what was available at the time, around this time of the year; I believe I strarted with original series in February, or March 2009... It was kind of interesting to see that year in which original is happening, also 2009, didn't really ended up so technologically advanced, like Kawamori thought it would be, when he was young. Anyway, not to go into too much descriptions, Macross became one of my most beloved anime franchises that I ever saw, especially first series, Macross: Do You Remember Love? movie, which is, IMO, to this day, still one of the best looking anime in history, and Macross Flash Back 2012 OVA which concluded story with original characters. They weren't perfect, but there was just something about them which made them special; it had extremely sentimental, and nostalgic vibes, Haruhiko Mikimoto's character designs were very melancholic looking, music was also really touching, and bittersweet, especially some of Iijima's / Minmay's songs. It was really romantic stuff. I also loved everyday life of people aboard Macross, the clash with gigantic Zentradi, and them slowly learning about humans, and life outside of war. Needless to say, I went crazy. I watched sequels, up to Frontier, constantly listened to Iijima's songs, had her, and Minmay in my MAL favorites for a long time (they are not there anymore, but might as well be, since I still appreciate them to this day), added bunch of missing characters, and pictures to MAL database, etc... ... I must stop, otherwise it would never end, me talking about how much I appreciate Macross in general. If I remember correctly I only watched up to the first Frontier movie, but I did hear that a lot of people were unhappy with Delta, which I will most likely see once I start rewatching every anime in order of airing; not sure how I will feel about it, but I did like Macross II: Lovers Again, and that one was received very poorly by fandom. I must admit though, that I am kind of dissapointed that after Flash Back 2012, series focused on new characters, and events; not that they were bad, on contrary, but original ones stayed most iconic somehow. :( Btw, few years ago, I watched another Kawamori's work AKB0048, and its sequel AKB0048: Next Stage, and it had a lot in common with Macross. Surprisingly, it was very good, despite being idol focused. Anyone else saw anything Macross related? What did you think? |
| I watch all the Macross. All of it! I actually have quite a history on how I discovered Macross and how it eventually became my favorite anime series of all time... When someone says that you can watch any Macross series in any order, don't listen to them. To appreciate the Macross series in its entirety, you have to watch at the very minimum Do You Remember Love. It'll be even better if you watch SDF and DYRL before watching anything else. People who watched Frontier first probably thought it was ok, but those who watched SDF and DYRL beforehand definitely had nostalgia overload when they watched Frontier which made them appreciate it more. I'm one of the few who enjoyed Delta, but I can understand why many dislike it. It was originally intended to be 12 episodes and a movie, but I guess the production committee pushed Kawamori to extend the series further probably to advertise the music more, and you can guess what happened after that. If you want my suggestion, skip the TV series and go straight to the movie instead. The movie fixes several of the issues that the TV series had, and given that there will be a new Delta Movie in the future, it would probably be best just to ignore the TV series entirely. Perhaps the only thing the TV series has over the movie is that it has the best pilot episode in the series next to Macross 7. Anyway, if you enjoyed AKB0048 (which I have yet to see), then Delta shouldn't be too far off... I can't wait for Macross Crossover live. Long live Macross! |
TarotistMay 19, 2019 1:53 PM
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| I only watched SDF. When I was a small boy, the Robotech "version" of Macross was airing on TV, and I watched some episodes (at that time I preffered Transformers which was broadcasted on a time slot next to it actually), so about a year ago I decided to give SDF a try. I really loved it. I think "romantic" is the right word, it had an exceptionally romantic feel to it. The songs, the animation (which I find great for its time), the characters - everything was lovely, even a comedy moments were fun. So I'm really looking forward to watch other entries in this franchise someday. |
| I watched "Macross F and Macross Δ". My thoughts were that "F" was better. |
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| The original Macross just recently and like 15 episodes of Frontier I never got passed that episode cause something else always caught my eye. Right now trying to find time to watch Macross 7 its not that easy. |
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
| Arguably Milia with her actions and offspring with Maximilian is far more important female character for the franchise than Minmay. Mao Nome as the scientist that she became after Macross Zero is also very important part of the mythology. AKB0048 was trash. |
alshuMay 20, 2019 8:09 AM
| I saw SDF in the form in "Robotech" years ago, but that's it. I'm not certain if I'll go back and watch SDF uncut, as I personally believe that it's kinda overrated. The rest of the franchise only looks worse. Who in their right mind thought that combining mecha with music was a good idea? |
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| I considered watching Macross, but it looks like a bunch of idol shit with scifi/mecha loosely tacked onto it just to drag viewers in. |
 ☆☆☆ "There's a huge difference between one and infinity. However, compared to the difference between existence and non-existence, one and infinite are nearly the same. I am the child destined to become the best witch... no... The greatest Creator in the world...!" -Maria Ushiromiya ☆☆☆ |
Seiya said: The rest of the franchise only looks worse. Macross Zero and Macros F are way better than many mecha shows. Also Macross Plus is Shinichiro Watanabe's directional debut or something. Seiya said: Who in their right mind thought that combining mecha with music was a good idea? The explanation is in Macross Zero. And I disagree with Tarotist. You can start with it too. |
alshu said: Seiya said: The rest of the franchise only looks worse. Macross Zero and Macros F are way better than many mecha shows. Also Macross Plus is Shinichiro Watanabe's directional debut or something. Seiya said: Who in their right mind thought that combining mecha with music was a good idea? The explanation is in Macross Zero. And I disagree with Tarotist. You can start with it too. Macross Zero and F have really ugly character designs, so I don't think I could ever watch them. |
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| ye i watch Macross stuff since i grow up watching Robotech back in the 90s |
| @Seiya "Macross Zero and F have really ugly character designs, so I don't think I could ever watch them." I guess art is subjective.    |
alshu said: @Seiya "Macross Zero and F have really ugly character designs, so I don't think I could ever watch them." I guess art is subjective. I've always hated Sheryl Nome. She looks like a whore. |
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| I always found the name macross in forums and recommendations so I just gave it a try. I first saw DYRL and then I watched all in airing order starting with SDF. I liked the tv series better even though the last part is ridiculous, I hate kaifun, he's a mf, hikaru x minmay was the better couple. Frontier wasn't that interesting, all that insects bored me, at least the final fight was great and alto should've chosen ranka. M7 was a fun series, basara was great and fire bomber songs were the best. Sivil was hot. Delta was cool all in all but the wind metaphors were too edgy. Too much of an idol otaku bait for me but I kinda enjoyed it. At least he got together with freyja. There were 2 or 3 songs that I liked. I do not agree with the best girl ranking, the fact that kaname is there is stupid. Apparently you can make normal threads. |
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| @Seiya "I've always hated Sheryl Nome. She looks like a whore." I guess some people are projecting, she is a singer thus she dress a bit flamboyant. Is Sara looking like whore to you?   Or her sister Mao?  |
alshuMay 20, 2019 8:00 AM
| I just don't want to watch any Macross stuff, okay? You're not going to convince me to watch it. |
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Seiya said: I just don't want to watch any Macross stuff, okay? Just say it normally not with the "ugly character designs" and "whore" arguments. Seiya said: You're not going to convince me to watch it. I am not trying to make you watch it, just stating my opinion that Macross becomes better in some of it's incarnations after SDF. |
alshuMay 20, 2019 7:44 AM
Actually this is the real star of Macross Zero:   |
That's even more boring than the human characters. |
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| All of them, except Macross 7 and Delta, i dont think they are good |
I guess you are not interested in mecha porn too...why you ever bother to write here? By the way those picture weren't for you just people here accenting on the idol side of Macross and I prefer the mecha side. |
alshu said: I guess you are not interested in mecha porn too...why you ever bother to write here? By the way those picture weren't for you just people here accenting on the idol side of Macross and I prefer the mecha side. Well, I enjoyed Some of the Gundam franchise. Macross just doesn't appeal to me. |
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She looks like a popstar, and she is one. and you can't hate a character if you haven't watched the show. at best you're hating your own, imagined impression of it |
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OK those giant robots are not appealing to you but the others are. It would be interesting to know what's the difference instead of "Booooring!" post. |
| imo i find the character designs in macross to look pretty unique and recognizable due to the art style even though i havent even watched it. I give macross points for having good character design |
| ☆☆☆ "There's a huge difference between one and infinity. However, compared to the difference between existence and non-existence, one and infinite are nearly the same. I am the child destined to become the best witch... no... The greatest Creator in the world...!" -Maria Ushiromiya ☆☆☆ |
EndlessMaria said: It's quite the opposite but I would be lying if I said the music doesn't play a part in it.I considered watching Macross, but it looks like a bunch of idol shit with scifi/mecha loosely tacked onto it just to drag viewers in. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| I've watched all of Macross and thought it peaked in overall quality with Do You Remember Love? but Macross Plus movie had the best mecha fight. Restricting to only TV series, then Frontier was the best installment although the second half wasn't as impressive as the first. Didn't care for the romance aspect in any of the Macross nor most of the music sung by the idols. |
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Cabron said: EndlessMaria said: It's quite the opposite but I would be lying if I said the music doesn't play a part in it.I considered watching Macross, but it looks like a bunch of idol shit with scifi/mecha loosely tacked onto it just to drag viewers in. lol honestly i'm a bit of a pathological shitposter so i exaggerated a bit. maybe i'll watch macross eventually. |
| ☆☆☆ "There's a huge difference between one and infinity. However, compared to the difference between existence and non-existence, one and infinite are nearly the same. I am the child destined to become the best witch... no... The greatest Creator in the world...!" -Maria Ushiromiya ☆☆☆ |
| i say Macross is like the original Idol anime anyway at least the most popular one in the past before this recent Idol anime craze become a thing |
| Watched it as Robotech and read the novelizations which were honestly much better than "Robotech" or SDF. |
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| I haven't watched any Macross yet (not even as Robotech). Though it looks interesting. |
| Avatar character is Gabriel from Gabriel DropOut. |
| OG Macross was amazing. Definitely a worthy classic title! |
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| I've only watched the original, though as Robotech. It is the first anime I started associating with the "mecha" term. And the Western opening is a legend. |
I am 12 episodes in and Kei is doing to much of sexual harassment on Mimsy or other random girls. Also what about the loli-slave robot girl? (She is funny tho.) Yes, technically speaking Orguss looks better and has more consistent visuals but: - It reaps too much from Gundam 0079 like having an obviouse proxy of the White Base travelling around the world and having episodic adventures while the bad guys are chasing it. - Macross is way more ambitious as scope and story. It shows a facet from a huge intergalactic conflict. Vorpality said: Watched it as Robotech and read the novelizations which were honestly much better than "Robotech" or SDF. I think you already know this but I will mention it anyway - Robotech is 3 absolutely different anime shows stitched together. Macross constitutes only the first 36 episodes and it's rewritten. The original japanese version has key differences like for example everybody from the bridge survives - not only Misa/Lisa. After it's first season Macross goes a very different route that the rest of Robotech. |
alshuMay 21, 2019 1:49 AM
Arkab said: And the Western opening is a legend. its worthy of being posted here in HD quality too |
| I have seen Macross and Macross Plus. |
| Yeah. Hec k yeah I did. SDF, Frontier, Plus, Delta, and most of Zero (I kinda need to rewatch it to consider it complete.) Macross is a favorite franchise of mine. |
Ericonator said: By definition, everything is retro since by the time you realize something has happened it's already in the past.  |
| nope, its mecha anime and i dont like it |
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| Yes I have. Is that all you want to know? |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I wanted to wait for a proper license before watching Macross, but since I found out that HG got away with tax fraud, I decided 10+ years was enough waiting. I've finished SDF, Zero, Frontier, and Delta. Currently working my way through 7. I don't really plan on watching Plus or II. The former sounds like it has completely unlikable main characters and the latter doesn't have Kawamori involved. I think every Macross series is flawed in some way, but that's what makes the positives shine. 30% of SDF's animation is outright garbage and it takes a dozen episodes for it to really start up. 7 is endless stock footage hell with a repetitive episode formula. Both Frontier and Delta find some way of trainwrecking themselves by the second half. Even so, I love it all. Maybe I'm a shallow person who cares about idols and romance over serious sci-fi military drama. I don't really care. |
| I've seen all except Delta, which I'm going to watch soon as well. I had a hard time trying to get into the franchise because I really disliked the first Macross, but some people encouraged me to try the other parts and it was a brilliant decision - I found some of my all-time favorite anime and characters thanks to it, not to mention lots of nice soundtracks. |
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| Only the original Macross. Decent series with a campy charm. Would have been better if they ended it earlier. I'm not all that into mecha to begin with, so I'm not going to bother with the rest of the franchise. Only watched it because it's considered a classic. |
| I watched the first ten eps of the first entry and well I guess that was the shitty one because damn these eps suck. If anyone has a better way to start the saga I'm open to it. |
JoyBoy_316 said: I watched the first ten eps of the first entry and well I guess that was the shitty one because damn these eps suck. If anyone has a better way to start the saga I'm open to it. Mecross Zero is a prequel. Something like the Gundam: The Origin of the franchise. Some people think it's wrong to begin with it but I disagree. |
alshu said: JoyBoy_316 said: I watched the first ten eps of the first entry and well I guess that was the shitty one because damn these eps suck. If anyone has a better way to start the saga I'm open to it. Mecross Zero is a prequel. Something like the Gundam: The Origin of the franchise. Some people think it's wrong to begin with it but I disagree. Ah thank you I'll give it a try in time |
| I've watched everything of Macross. It's really worth it. I think my favorite series are Macross 7 and Macross F that is even better, and my least favorite is Macross Delta. If you're into the mecha and music genres, then you should definitely check it out. I had a great tiime with all the series. |
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