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Important disclaimer:
There isn't any specific show I'm "salty" about, nor do I really care about MAL scores in general. I just think this mindset is childish and I want to call it out.


I hate it when people do this.
"I would give this anime an average score, but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

Let me make this as perfectly frank as I can: The score a show gets is not duty-bound to match your opinion, and it is not your responsibility to "bring balance to the universe" by having all shows scored according to what you think of it.

If you think a highly praised show is "just okay", then you are among the people who think a highly praised show is just okay. That's all. Trying to give an anime the score you think it "deserves" is solipsistic and pretty sad, imo. The world around you will like some shows more than you, and some shows less than you. Just give your honest 2 cents and gtfo
We don't need you managing the mean scores of anime shows on a website.
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It's weird that you think 7 is an average score.
 
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nonsense
stop caring so much
for ratings,not healthy


 
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It's weird that you think 7 is an average score.
Would you like me to change it to 5 then?

Everybody else will probably make the same irrelevant point that you have, so I might as well do it
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Calm down OP, its not a big deal when someone rates an anime lower than others.

So rated your favourite anime below 7?
 
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Noodzilla said:
nonsense
stop caring so much
for ratings,not healthy


DepravedMagi said:
Calm down OP, its not a big deal when someone rates an anime lower than others.

So rated your favourite anime low?


I'm honestly not pissed about any specific anime score. I'm moreso pissed about immature mindsets. That's what really gets to me

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Mickdrew said:
Important disclaimer:
There isn't any specific show I'm "salty" about, nor do I really care about MAL scores in general. I just think this mindset is childish and I want to call it out.
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I don't think I've ever seen anybody say it like that tbh, but in general I'd agree about just giving a show a rating that you feel is correct, independent of factors like its mean score.

But I can't emphasize that I have never seen a case of this, in spite of all of the stupid shit people do about scores on this site ._.
 
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I just rate according to my own personal enjoyment.

Used to rate according to other metrics that took into account other people's opinions (or potential opinions), but realized that that was sorta stupid and vague and only ended up with me having to compromise between my own opinions and those of others. So I stopped caring what others thought.

That said:

Lisbon said:
I don't think I've ever seen anybody say it like that tbh




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nonsense
stop caring so much
for ratings,not healthy


Almost thought this was a haiku. So I made it into one.

nonsense. stop caring
so much for ratings, not heal-
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"I would give this anime an average score, but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

according to MAL's 5 = average not 7, just saying
 
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Who the hell cares about MAL scores anyway. I haven't been able to take them seriously since Kimi no na wa got a 9.17
 
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Lisbon said:
just giving a show a rating that you feel is correct, independent of factors like its mean score.


Exactly. 100% this

For the record: I actually have seen it quite a bit. Most don't say it so brazenly, but it's pretty much what they mean
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justcaolan said:
Who the hell cares about MAL scores anyway. I haven't been able to take them seriously since Kimi no na wa got a 9.17


Maybe the film is just not to your tastes? There's people who feel the same about Fullmetal Alchemist and from the looks of your profile I'm fairly sure you'd rush to defend that in a heartbeat.

 
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I'd understand rating up a show you like, but rating down a show you don't like is just pathetic and a waste of time lol
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I will never understand why do people care so much about what other weebs do with their lists.

Like, really, chill out. It's just a number.
 
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Mickdrew said:
Lisbon said:
just giving a show a rating that you feel is correct, independent of factors like its mean score.


Exactly. 100% this

For the record: I actually have seen it quite a bit. Most don't say it so brazenly, but it's pretty much what they mean

Well now I'm kind of curious tbh xP What was said if it wasn't as direct as that?
 
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justcaolan said:
Who the hell cares about MAL scores anyway. I haven't been able to take them seriously since Kimi no na wa got a 9.17

This is actually another mentality that really annoys me

"I disagree with rating x, therefore the entire rating system is bad"

Again, no, they just like something you don't. Scores on MAL are not meant to dictate how much you like something. If they were supposed to, then yes, they would be bad for everyone. All they are meant to do is show what the average view of an anime's quality is.
It has nothing to do with you specifically as an individual or what you like
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I will never understand why do people care so much about what other weebs do with their lists.

Like, really, chill out. It's just a number.

Again, I'm talking about an immature mentality among some users here that treat ratings as something other than what it actually is: just a number (as you say)

Please read the disclaimer in the op

Lisbon said:
Mickdrew said:


Exactly. 100% this

For the record: I actually have seen it quite a bit. Most don't say it so brazenly, but it's pretty much what they mean

Well now I'm kind of curious tbh xP What was said if it wasn't as direct as that?

Usually you'll see it in reviews where the person will be saying how medoicre something is, or giving an impression that they just think it's okay. Then they'll note how way too many people think it's better than it is, and the final score will be waayyyy lower than their review seemed to imply. The picture you'd get from their opinions make it seem like they just don't really "get it", but their score makes it look like they hate it

This is just one example
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GangstaShiba said:
justcaolan said:
Who the hell cares about MAL scores anyway. I haven't been able to take them seriously since Kimi no na wa got a 9.17


Maybe the film is just not to your tastes? There's people who feel the same about Fullmetal Alchemist and from the looks of your profile I'm fairly sure you'd rush to defend that in a heartbeat.


I guess your right but I just don't understand why people love that movie so much. The only good thing about it are the visuals
 
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I do agree but as I only care about average MAL ratings only because I like comparing my scores to them, I don't really have strong feelings on the matter.
 
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Well let's see, instead of caring for what score a stranger gave an anime. Or a friend or a million other people. Why not give it the score you think it deserves. Why is it important what the majority (sheep) think. I have decided that-

10 - master piece (once every 10 years)
9 - almost perfect - doesn't pay the bills
8 - brilliant anime (heart pounding)
7 - very good (clapping hands)
6 - good, could be better but isn't.
5 - average, still not bad since it could be worse
4 - mediocre, could have lived without having watched it.
3 - boring to many stupid, not funny and no plot.
2 - worst thing ever why was it made.
1 - a score given out of spite for an anime which was not bad, but just annoyed and pisses you of.
 
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Mickdrew said:

but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

I think it's funny how people think they can singlehandedly drag down a score.

No, your 2 is insignificant in a pool of 100,000+ ratings. It doesn't do anything.
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Well let's see, instead of caring for what score a stranger gave an anime. Or a friend or a million other people. Why not give it the score you think it deserves. Why is it important what the majority (sheep) think.


Not sure if this was meant to be a criticism of me, but I actually completely agree and what you say is very much the point I'm making
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I give animes way too high scores a lot of the time (considering what should be the average score) and I couldn't care less. Fight me OP.
 
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Mickdrew said:
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I will never understand why do people care so much about what other weebs do with their lists.

Like, really, chill out. It's just a number.

Again, I'm talking about an immature mentality among some users here that treat ratings as something other than what it actually is: just a number (as you say)

Please read the disclaimer in the op


At the end of the day you are still complaining about how other people use MAL's scoring system, man.
 
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I give animes way too high scores a lot of the time (considering what should be the average score) and I couldn't care less. Fight me OP.

Not sure you're in the same camp as the people I'm targetting

You just seem to be stupidly positive lol
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Couldn't care any less about the average MAL rating. It is probably messed up cause of the people who boost their favorite animes through multiple account creation.
 
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Reina_Orikasa said:
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but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

I think it's funny how people think they can singlehandedly drag down a score.

No, your 2 is insignificant in a pool of 100,000+ ratings. It doesn't do anything.


There are those few idiots who create hundreds of accounts to boost tho...
 
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Mickdrew said:
Important disclaimer:
There isn't any specific show I'm "salty" about, nor do I really care about MAL scores in general. I just think this mindset is childish and I want to call it out.


I hate it when people do this.
"I would give this anime an average score, but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

Let me make this as perfectly frank as I can: The score a show gets is not duty-bound to match your opinion, and it is not your responsibility to "bring balance to the universe" by having all shows scored according to what you think of it.

If you think a highly praised show is "just okay", then you are among the people who think a highly praised show is just okay. That's all. Trying to give an anime the score you think it "deserves" is solipsistic and pretty sad, imo. The world around you will like some shows more than you, and some shows less than you. Just give your honest 2 cents and gtfo
We don't need you managing the mean scores of anime shows on a website.


Cool story bro, you almost convinced me of giving fate zero a 1
 
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Sweet said:
Mickdrew said:

Again, I'm talking about an immature mentality among some users here that treat ratings as something other than what it actually is: just a number (as you say)

Please read the disclaimer in the op


At the end of the day you are still complaining about how other people use MAL's scoring system, man.

If seeing complaints like this bother you, then I recommend you avoid threads like.
I think this is a valid critique that I've noticed for a long time that not many people are pointing out
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Mickdrew said:
Important disclaimer:
There isn't any specific show I'm "salty" about, nor do I really care about MAL scores in general. I just think this mindset is childish and I want to call it out.


I hate it when people do this.
"I would give this anime an average score, but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

Let me make this as perfectly frank as I can: The score a show gets is not duty-bound to match your opinion, and it is not your responsibility to "bring balance to the universe" by having all shows scored according to what you think of it.

If you think a highly praised show is "just okay", then you are among the people who think a highly praised show is just okay. That's all. Trying to give an anime the score you think it "deserves" is solipsistic and pretty sad, imo. The world around you will like some shows more than you, and some shows less than you. Just give your honest 2 cents and gtfo
We don't need you managing the mean scores of anime shows on a website.


Cool story bro, you almost convinced me of giving fate zero a 1

Wow, you're almost as edgy as Fate/Zero is.
Careful you don't cut yourself on it
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Well, at that extreme, yeah is really stupid. What I do sometimes is round up a bit up when I think a show is underrated but AT MOST is 1 point. I don't give less than it deserves because is overrated. I hate biased people that do dumb shit like that. I don't get how someone can be so salty. Also I don't get how some people with less than 100 animes on their list can say "this is one of the greatest show ever". Common sense is pretty rare this days.

Btw not having a +0.5 option is a pain in the ass for me.
 
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Mickdrew said:
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Cool story bro, you almost convinced me of giving fate zero a 1

Wow, you're almost as edgy as Fate/Zero is.
Careful you don't cut yourself on it

yeah, and theres nothing you can do about that, not even a useless lil thread
 
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Reina_Orikasa said:
Mickdrew said:

but since so many people rate it so high I need to drag the rating down."

I think it's funny how people think they can singlehandedly drag down a score.

No, your 2 is insignificant in a pool of 100,000+ ratings. It doesn't do anything.


Well, you have a solid point here. lol
 
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Mickdrew said:

Wow, you're almost as edgy as Fate/Zero is.
Careful you don't cut yourself on it

yeah, and theres nothing you can do about that, not even a useless lil thread

Shit... you're right :o
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Well, at that extreme, yeah is really stupid. What I do sometimes is round up a bit up when I think a show is underrated but AT MOST is 1 point. I don't give less than it deserves because is overrated. I hate biased people that do dumb shit like that. I don't get how someone can be so salty. Also I don't get how some people with less than 100 animes on their list can say "this is one of the greatest show ever". Common sense is pretty rare this days.

Btw not having a +0.5 option is a pain in the ass for me.

I've felt the same way about half marks, but idk if it's that big a deal. Yeah it might be helpful for the sake of accuracy, but we already have a 10 point scale for how much we like something. Having 20 is just splitting hairs.
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Mickdrew said:
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yeah, and theres nothing you can do about that, not even a useless lil thread

Shit... you're right :o
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I think it's funny how people think they can singlehandedly drag down a score.

No, your 2 is insignificant in a pool of 100,000+ ratings. It doesn't do anything.


There are those few idiots who create hundreds of accounts to boost tho...

Again, it's so insignificant unless they make thousands upon thousands of accounts. A 0.0X score change is nothing.

We also have the report fake accounts thread for a good reason.
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Does anyone actually have that kind of mindset? If so, that's just dumb.


 
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Does anyone actually have that kind of mindset? If so, that's just dumb.

I agree completely, just sounds really petty.
 
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Well, at that extreme, yeah is really stupid. What I do sometimes is round up a bit up when I think a show is underrated but AT MOST is 1 point. I don't give less than it deserves because is overrated. I hate biased people that do dumb shit like that. I don't get how someone can be so salty. Also I don't get how some people with less than 100 animes on their list can say "this is one of the greatest show ever". Common sense is pretty rare this days.

Btw not having a +0.5 option is a pain in the ass for me.
I'm not really sure how to find half a point on a 10-point scale meaningful, tbh. I'm actually not sure how to find even whole point differences all that meaningful on 10-point scale. Personally I think a five-point scale would be most effective for expressing opinion -- hate/dislike/meh/like/love.
 
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I personally would suggest you stop caring about how other people rate anime. Mean scores don't matter and if you're trying to recommend someone anime but can't figure out which anime they like the most since their scores are meant to "bring justice to the database" then just give up on that activity since they're not worth your time.
 
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I personally would suggest you stop caring about how other people rate anime. Mean scores don't matter and if you're trying to recommend someone anime but can't figure out which anime they like the most since their scores are meant to "bring justice to the database" then just give up on that activity since they're not worth your time.

Doing that would indeed be stupid. Thank you for the concern.
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daily reminder that a 7 doesn't mean that the show is "just okay"

i'm actually late, you already edited =(
 
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daily reminder that a 7 doesn't mean that the show is "just okay"
More like hourly reminder.
That's not even what the op says
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Mickdrew said:
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daily reminder that a 7 doesn't mean that the show is "just okay"
More like hourly reminder.
That's not even what the op says

Yeah...because you edited the title.
 
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More like hourly reminder.
That's not even what the op says

Yeah...because you edited the title.

Yeah, I know.

So what's the problem?
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People who do this kind of shit probably hold enough of a grudge towards the show to justify lowering the score, whether they want to justify it with the fanbase and the MAL average or with reasons actually related with content.

The former is dumb yeah but it's not like we can do anything, and if somebody is pissed enough about a series to easily take into account external factors in their rating they would probably end up finding whatever excuse to give a very low score anyway. In the end they just want to hate on the show.
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Mickdrew said:
It is not your responsibility to "bring balance to the universe"


B-B-But it is my destiny! I need to give everything other than Pingu a 1, that way everyone will know the genius that is Pingu!!


OT: Some people are of the mindset that the general score a series has should match their own, that is why certain users create alts with the intent to either increase or lower a particular show mean score. Is a retrograde mentality sure, but as long as users keep thinking that the MAL mean score is a good measurement of a series quality and view it in such a high regard, this type of behavior will keep existing.



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What really bothers me is those people who make a review and their overall score of that show doesn't make any sense. An example could be:
Story - 9
Art & Animation - 8
Sound - 7
Characters - 7
Enjoyment - 9
Overall - 7
The mean is clearly 8. Why give it a 7? I don't understand it.
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