What weight have MAL in the anime industry ?

HeadlessHorseman said:
We need more masterpieces like Pingu. It's an untapped gold mine right now. MAL hath spoken. The industry should take note, it is ranked 56 right now so more series of that quality are necessary. Sadly, what MAL thinks means little to nothing.

jae-som said:
Well, MAL is already dead and I think that's it, it has nothing to do with the things beyond.

silent_knight98 said:
Oh yeah?! Why dont u see this week's light novel rankings

https://myanimelist.net/news/55224634

There are total four isekai LNs in top ten out of which only Overlord is the one which is popular in the west and two Harem LNs. So total six in ten.

And also can u expalin why a lot of isekai shows are releasing lately if that genre is not popular in Japan? I can name u more than four shows right now which are going to air in summer/winter/fall.

Kuma said:


technically 5, from your source...
>Overlord
>Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou
>Tondemo Skill de Isekai Hourou Meshi
>Around 40 Kenja no Isekai Seikatsu Nikki
>Youheidan no Ryouriban
(lol, the order of what i liking more is complitely reversed, tho ariffureta is lower than overlord)

okay, back to the topic, isekai does become fad, but still niche fad... they are not kind of groundbreaking new kind of common trend everywhere.... i mean, if you take a look at manga, their sales is much lower, their TV ratngs ovetenly in top bellow... so why they keep being made? well, overdedicated niche fanbasess.... they will spend almost all their money to BD and merchendise...

i mean take a look at yearly sales, last year, most popular novel is, Kimi no Nawa, lOl, second one is SAO with 300K comparing to manga, it was soo little... TV ratings is much worse showing gap....

does that mean we had to ignore isekai trending? well possibly can't... they are started from syosetu, a userbase Novel web publishing... so it mide by circle, for the circle... so it will be stay for much longer... it might influence the popular audience, but for now? well, not really, at least yet...

so does make it popular after all? well, comunally as anime comunity, yes, largely, not....

silent_knight98 said:
So basically these so called over enthusiastic fanbases have made it popular. Well, that also makes sense. Either five people purchase five copies or one person buys five copies, it doesnt matter to the publisher, they are selling five copies in the end XD. This also explains why there are lots of isekai shows coming lately.

DnDfag said:
None, because opinions of fans hold little weight.Critics opinions have more weight.

Manaban said:
I hope to god that we never have any power in anything ever and are just left to be miserable by each other in isolation from the industry and the rest of the internet as a whole for that matter.

It's better that way tbh

Kuma said:


Well, nichely popular to be exact... tho the manga adaptation of slime datta ken sold almost 400 K, the LN sales wasn't spectacular either (maybe because the web novel still available for free?)... so it's not impossible to isekai trope being popular for mainstream audience, tho not even trapped in game SAO fad can reach popular mainstream idea (considering series that follow that trope wasn't many either in popular magazine)...

silent_knight98 said:
Then which genres are popular right now in Japan? Since Isekai is out of question right now as u said then as far as i can guess maybe battle shounens and dark seinens in Mangas and Idol/ CGDCT/Magical Girls in anime?
I dont know exactly, so can u tell me?

Kuma said:


still advanture/academic battle shounen... tho there is always never something a trope that become actual fad, because popular reader demand something entertaining, fad only entertaining for a while... i wonder if the succesful of the promised never land will pumping other thriller survival series? well let's see...

one thing for sure is cooking series on the heavy rise...it was started by popular trends (well, japan tv shows to be exact) now it's flooding even LN too (like 3 out of isekai mentioned earlier has cooking element) ...

oh and sports... olympic fad is strong in japan (well, they are the palce it held for once)... half of series in weekly shounen magazine is sports.... tho jump doesn't really liking it i guess? kurobas author new series look like disliked.... sunday also has lot sports series....

silent_knight98 said:
Thanks man for all this info ! That other guy was just pouring hatred for isekais, so i m glad that he mentioned u in his post :-D

And btw can i ask u bout stuffs in the future if u dont have any problem?

Kuma said:


you are welcome... sure, no problem... tho i am not knowladgable that much... just my hobbies of reading and discussing.... i don't even watch anime anymore... mainly manga and LN nowdays....

and for clarification, in your previous link, actually there is 6 isekai, lOl... one of them i forgtten because i already dropped it long time ago... and surprise, it also has cooking subplot....

Tsuchisa said:
If you want news regarding anime there is anime news network.

If you want reviews about the anime there is youtube. There is also quora.

Plus if you want to know the most famous anime of the season there are streaming sites and they show it, the ones I use anyways. There is also this facebook page called: Anime Trending.

Really myanimelist shows up if there is a thread about it.
This is why Anime discussion threads are important.

But to be honest it is quite efficient, and I am glad that I found it.
Maybe not now but many more years to come. ^.^

-SP- said:
Probably none. Most of the users live outside of Japan, and Japan doesn't give a shit about foreigners.

Cybertron said:
Unfortunately/Fortunately (pick one) it is zero

shawnofthedeadz said:

That is simply not true. Japan recognizes the importance of appealing to foreigners and to such a degree the west probably has more influence than it should. Shows' that break into the western market like Dragon Ball Z and Naturo make it rich simply by virtue of a larger market. Many hope to reach such success and try to cater way more than they should to western ideals. There are also many western companies involved in the production of anime and on many production boards who consider western sales. Some, like Crunchyroll or Netflix, are focused on tailoring more content to the west, whereas, others like Warner Brothers on expanding their bottom line but this generally involves some consideration of the west (e.g. Accel World released in Japan came with English subtitles). Of course, not all shows are going to cater to foreigners but that is the same with any media based industry.

Furthermore, this is likely only to increase as Japan has made it easier for foreign animators to work in the country.
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/02/26/national/government-eyes-making-permanent-residency-easier-cool-japan-talent/#.WpcY2-jwbIU

Vyzass said:
What weight have MAL in the anime industry ?

None and neither does the anime youtuber have in the anime industry. Remember, as long as most anime fans outside Japan still PIRATING, whether it's MAL or internert anime community in general, non have any impact on anime industry. It also why hardly anyone care about anime review/critic since why listen to other people when you can watch anime for free and judge yourself.

SuperRed said:


Iirc TheAnimeMan is famous in Japan got voice actor work in a Japanese game that is getting an anime adaptation.

Lolsebca said:
With one million users and shows that are graded by often more than ten thousand viewers, with active critics and immediate feedback, probably the most representative part of the Western viewer audience online, it goes without saying that MyAnimeList, by the strenght it has gotten in ten years online and an active community, MyAnimeList is probably weighting a bit in the mercantship of anime as a whole.

First thing first, it's a database, with feedback input, therefore being on this website gives a lot of visibility to small entries, far more than if it wasn't there. Secondly you can study the market somehow, with the number of entries for a given genres selection (and their average rating, if you were not to try the water blindly)...

Truly there must be way more reasons MAL is awesome for anime companies, and I think it'd be cool if we could debate of what impact has had MAL on the anime industry and what weight it has got as of today !
That being said, have a good day.