Japan's Weekly Blu-ray and DVD Rankings for Apr 23 - 29

tragedydesu said:
> *5,202　*5,202　Darling in the FranXX Vol.1 Limited Edition

with this we will have more waifu wars in the future for sure
i should be more careful about my picks

tragedydesu said:
> *5,202　*5,202　Darling in the FranXX Vol.1 Limited Edition

with this we will have more waifu wars in the future for sure
i should be more careful about my picks

TeeRider said:
What do these "**,**" mean?

ChocoBar9 said:
Guilty Crown 10042
Aldnoah Zero 8293
Valvrave 7625
Kabaneri 6880
DITF 5912

So Franxx is the lowest selling mecha anime from Aniplex thus far. Since its 2-cour it'll definitely average between 3k to 4k by the end of its run.

ChocoBar9 said:
Guilty Crown 10042
Aldnoah Zero 8293
Valvrave 7625
Kabaneri 6880
DITF 5912

So Franxx is the lowest selling mecha anime from Aniplex thus far. Since its 2-cour it'll definitely average between 3k to 4k by the end of its run.

kammie7 said:


Does Kabanari really count as a Mech anime? It has mechanical design, but I wouldn't call it a Mech anime.

shanimebib said:


Sadly it's better than all of the anime you mentioned above. So, Kabeneri is a mecha? Didn't know that.

moodie said:
So ppl havent caught on that physical sales are declining while streaming revenue is increasing. Mal users once again behind on anything relating to anime lol.

Glad Franxx selling a lot in this era.

Cybertron said:
*5.　*5,338　*5,338　Overlord II Vol.1
I have no idea if this is a good number or bad, I thought that the adaption was terrible, don't tell me it was because of the lizard scene :P

tragedydesu said:

moodie said:
So ppl havent caught on that physical sales are declining while streaming revenue is increasing. Mal users once again behind on anything relating to anime lol.

Glad Franxx selling a lot in this era.

ChocoBar9 said:
Guilty Crown 10042
Aldnoah Zero 8293
Valvrave 7625
Kabaneri 6880
DITF 5912

So Franxx is the lowest selling mecha anime from Aniplex thus far. Since its 2-cour it'll definitely average between 3k to 4k by the end of its run.

kammie7 said:
But most of that revenue is kept by the stream licensors. That's why your not gonna hear alot of studios or producers credit streaming as main contributed to their financial success. Theater releases, Merchandise and live events help more than streaming right now.

jejehartadi said:
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-30/anime-industry-report-shows-continued-growth-in-overseas-market/.130302

However, the report noted that "the industry felt little benefit though the growth" because it was mostly attributable to the overseas market. While Japan does feel benefit from the overseas market growth, that benefit is not as direct, and is less than the benefit felt from domestic market growth, since most overseas sales go to licensing management companies.

The report stated the domestic market has stagnated, growing only 3.8% from 2013, which the report claimed is due to "unsuccessful transition" from existing channels such as television to up-and-coming channels such as internet streaming and live events.

The report also broke down growth and decline by segments. The movie, Internet distribution, music, overseas, and live entertainment segments all saw growth, while the television, videogram, merchandising, and pachinko segments all saw a decrease. The movie segment in particular rose 41% compared to 2015, bolstered by the success of Makoto Shinkai's your name. anime film.

aja said:
The market size finally exceeded 2 trillion yen, which was 110% on a year‐by‐year basis. Videogram sales shrunk considerably (84.9%), and TV (98.8%), Merchandising (97.1%), and Pachinko (95.8%) also decreased. Meanwhile, Movie (141.4%), Music (110.5%), internet Distribution (109.4%), Live Entertainment (129.5%) and Overseas (131.6%) expanded.

Focusing on the domestic sales trend for the past 4 years, the annual sales remained mostly level, increasing by 3.8% from 2013 (¥1.19 trillion in 2013, ¥1.30 trillion in 2014, ¥1.24 trillion in 2015 and ¥1.23 trillion in 2016). Meanwhile, the overseas sales trend showed a dramatic increase, increasing by 171.9% from 2013 (¥282.3 billion in 2013, ¥326.5 billion in 2014, ¥582.3 billion in 2015 and ¥767.6 billion in 2016).

tragedydesu said:
@shanimebib
nope i didn't
just read about characters in wiki

IVRBRK said:

It's 6k ONLY IN JAPAN boys dont forget and in 4 days btw

Cybertron said:
*5.　*5,338　*5,338　Overlord II Vol.1
I have no idea if this is a good number or bad, I thought that the adaption was terrible, don't tell me it was because of the lizard scene :P

RobertBobert said:
*6.　*5,202　*5,202　Darling in the FranXX Vol.1 Limited Edition

Quite disappointingly, given all the current hype, but I'm glad that they were able to reach at least the average level.

shanimebib said:


Going by the trend of the last couple of years where disc sales have gone down significantly, the number for Darli-fra is much better than average. The average is around 2.2~2.5K which used to be around 3~3.5K a few years back. Since the average has gone down, anything above 3K is considered pretty decent return nowadays. Anything around ~5K is actually quite good. Anything around ~7K is very good and anything about ~9K is excellent. Very few anime break 10K nowadays which was more common just few years back.

If you want to compare the numbers with, say for example, the numbers of 2011~2015, the numbers will be 25~33% less. For an example, if an anime sells like 4.5K discs in 2017~2018, it would probably have sold 5.5K~6K a few years earlier. If you trace back the numbers from early 2010s, you'll get a better picture of the scenario. The numbers obviously heavily depend on many other parameters such as shifting of fans preferences from one type of anime to another, contemporary anime that got released, etc.

ps. It's just my general observation and not a fact.

ChocoBar9 said:
Guilty Crown 10042
Aldnoah Zero 8293
Valvrave 7625
Kabaneri 6880
DITF 5912

So Franxx is the lowest selling mecha anime from Aniplex thus far. Since its 2-cour it'll definitely average between 3k to 4k by the end of its run.

RobertBobert said:
But that's what surprises me the most, this is when the show becomes memetic, but sales are still low. For example, ANN called "Koi wa Ameagari no You ni" one of the five best shows of the winter season, and Bland S is still remembered with jokes about "S", but both shows only barely approached to 2k.

dehuman said:


ye but it does not matter since legal online streaming rights is where the new profit today comes from and Discs (BD/DVD) sales are declining for years now

the manga of Darling in the FranXX is doing fine too
Darling in the FranXX manga has 400k copies in print!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarlingInTheFranxx/comments/8g7ure/darling_in_the_franxx_manga_has_400k_copies_in/

DoubleMangekyo said:


Just because something is popular online doesn't mean people are gonna spend money on overpriced anime BDs.
Also, these memes you speak of are mainly made by western fans who, much like the opinions of ANN's reviewers, mean nothing when we're talking about Japanese sales numbers.

ChocoBar9 said:
None of that information take into account of how much is going back to Japan versus how much is being made. Using information such as "streaming licenses have increased signficantly since 2013" is irrelevant because streaming was no where near as big as it is now. Its why you never see actual stream revenue reports from Japan via Oricon because its virtually worthless in comparison to BD/DVDs where the hard numbers can be applied. Using any stream numbers to prove that Franxx is doing well is dumb because CR, iqyp, Funi aren't spart of the production committee in the same way CR was for citrus or Amazon Prime werw fir Kabaneri.

ChocoBar9 said:

Why do people keep spouting this shit when there's literal no proof that the revenue made through streaming is even enough to sustain an animes profitability outside Japan? Its all worthless speculation made by people trying to justify their show underperforming. I also love people who go on about BD/DVD sales declining when last year had two original anime sell over 100k in BD sales one of which was a TV series.

Overseas, which took the No.1 place in the previous year, further expanded, leaving Merchandising, the 2nd by a narrow margin in the previous year, far behind. It could be said that the overseas sales supported the overall growth of the industry.

The most active movements in the animation business in 2016 would be video distribution and Chinese power. In terms of video distribution, Netflix and Amazon Prime Video, the two U.S. platforms proactive toward Japanese animations, stood out.

The platform made efforts to gain popularity by distributing some animation programs ahead of their TV broadcast; however, there is no doubt its strongest appeal was the free distribution service. It is worth keeping an eye on whether or not Abema TV becomes a threat to existing pay distribution services in Japan.

Another topic in 2017 was Chinese power. It was just three to four years ago when China began a shopping spree for Japanese animations for Chinese major platforms. In 2016, some Chinese companies started investing in Japanese animation production committees; furthermore, they began outsourcing animation production for their own IP projects to Japanese studios. Since 2015, the Chinese government has lifted a ban on Japanese theatrical animations, which also had economic spillover effects, boosting overseas sales of Japanese animation.

Regarding China, an increasing demand for Japanese animations whose distribution officially started on a full scale in China pushed up license fees in the market. Under such circumstances, some of the Chinese Internet distributors participated in production as investors in order to secure the license in China.

The size of the animation videogram market in 2016 was 78.3 billion yen, decreasing for three consecutive years, by 15.1% from the previous year. Actually, many of the industry participants mentioned the market slowdown in recent years, as confirmed by the data here indicating that the animation videograms market has reached a big turning point. How the other media take the videogram market now on a full‐scale slump is an urgent issue for the industry.

The size of the Japanese merchandising market related to animation characters shrunk to ¥562.7 billion, which was 97.1% of its size in the previous year. This was because digital products (especially application games) were not included in the data. Actually, the overall market size (i.e. the revenues of animation studios) increased significantly. Surely consumers are losing their appetites for real products along with the shift to digital products. From now on, it is essential for character merchandising businesses to build a new business scheme incorporating digital products.

In terms of types of contract, contracts for broadcasting rights were still major while contract in connection with internet distributin rights increased dramatically. New business models, including collaborations with Chinese companies as well as global distribution platforms, also grew, however, the Japanese animation industry should be reinforced as to not turn into nothing but a commissioned factory for those partners.

ChocoBar9 said:
None of that information take into account of how much is going back to Japan versus how much is being made. Using information such as "streaming licenses have increased signficantly since 2013" is irrelevant because streaming was no where near as big as it is now. Its why you never see actual stream revenue reports from Japan via Oricon because its virtually worthless in comparison to BD/DVDs where the hard numbers can be applied. Using any stream numbers to prove that Franxx is doing well is dumb because CR, iqyp, Funi aren't spart of the production committee in the same way CR was for citrus or Amazon Prime werw fir Kabaneri.

DoubleMangekyo said:


Just because something is popular online doesn't mean people are gonna spend money on overpriced anime BDs.
Also, these memes you speak of are mainly made by western fans who, much like the opinions of ANN's reviewers, mean nothing when we're talking about Japanese sales numbers.