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| The feels is real... CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ONE OLD MAN FROM HUNDREDS EPISODES THAT I ALWAYS LAUGH AT BACK ACTUALLY IKUMATSU'S FATHER! Now I feel bad for that... This is why I love Gintama... |
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Romandy said: Fricking hell. I cried a bit in class while watching this. I should really start watching Gintama from season 1. Prepare yourself. There are so many episodes that give more impact than this. :) |
| Ah, the feels. Gintoki and Katsura dropped a few exceedingly impactful lines. A heart-warming conclusion to the arc. The post-credits bit of Hasegawa was glorious, particularly after such a dramatic episode. Another parody of Golgo 13. It definitely got me excited for the next dose of Gintama. |
| That was a pretty sad story. Damn I ship Ikumatsu and Zura. Madao at the end tho. |
| well, considering i already read the manga and know how it turn out, watching it really increase the impact nice one, and post ED, madao and glasan sniper. |
| Give it up for Gintama to turn a side character into such an important main focus. All's well that ends well . Great Epi |
MistyBlue said: Jetsies said: Really? But him being the father was already expected, it's expected from Gintama that EVERY character has a role. And it's better than adding a new character. Idk, it just felt more "off" to me than usual. Seeing a really minor character who barely showed up in the anime getting a deep backstory all of a sudden was strange. Just goes to show Gintama doesn't need to focus on mains to get a feel from the audience. If anything, they've been doing this for a long time, so it shouldn't come as a surprise. Maybe you've forgotten but side characters have always been given more development at some point in time, Diviner arc - Ketsuno Ana, Hasegawa prosecution - him and his wife Hatsu, Otsu's father breaking out of jail to watch her concert. Side characters are literally the backbone of this anime.. |
herrickluk said: MistyBlue said: Idk, it just felt more "off" to me than usual. Seeing a really minor character who barely showed up in the anime getting a deep backstory all of a sudden was strange. Just goes to show Gintama doesn't need to focus on mains to get a feel from the audience. If anything, they've been doing this for a long time, so it shouldn't come as a surprise. Maybe you've forgotten but side characters have always been given more development at some point in time, Diviner arc - Ketsuno Ana, Hasegawa prosecution - him and his wife Hatsu, Otsu's father breaking out of jail to watch her concert. Side characters are literally the backbone of this anime.. It probably felt off to me because I didn't see him as a side character. He's more like an "extra" or disposable side side characters because of his personality and lack of serious appearances, compared to the ones you mentioned. Anyways, this is just my opinion and my first impression of this episode. Don't really want to make this into a longer discussion than it already is. |
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JizzyHitler said: genuinely really heartwarming but also made sure its few jokes all struck effectively. More so than ever I am so upset that this series never made ikumatsu a recurring character, shes fits in so well with the characters and her and katsura's relationship is really cute. Its nice that she basically had some closure before the series wraps up for good. These past 2 episodes were so much stronger than the kind of weak first 2 episodes with the boyfriend arc. Also thank god the animation is so much better than the past few seasons, i pray silver soul stays this way cause while not totally in your face the movement in this episode was way above the past couple seasons especially when gin and katsura were flinging the dad and hasegawa around. so the animation is better than rakuyou arc? why? this ep animation was better than the past 3, but rakuyou animation was much better than this i'd say.. Romandy said: Fricking hell. I cried a bit in class while watching this. I should really start watching Gintama from season 1. you might get disappointed in the first episodes, but don't give up it gets hell lot better. there are much better feel trips in gintama. you'll cry you eyes out if you cried watching this. but you need to be patient. |
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Salamak said: god no rakyou might be the worst the show has ever looked barring some seriously bad looking episodes in the first 50 episodes. Not only was the art itself the least detailed it had ever been with everything looking really plasticky and without much shading, the biggest issue was it got so unbelievable lazy with the animation and movement sacrificing any real weight in favor of this floating smearing shit you see straight of dragonball. Almost everytime something was moving in the rakyou arc it had these obnoxious lines overlayed on everything to simulate fast movement that just made it look cheap. JizzyHitler said: genuinely really heartwarming but also made sure its few jokes all struck effectively. More so than ever I am so upset that this series never made ikumatsu a recurring character, shes fits in so well with the characters and her and katsura's relationship is really cute. Its nice that she basically had some closure before the series wraps up for good. These past 2 episodes were so much stronger than the kind of weak first 2 episodes with the boyfriend arc. Also thank god the animation is so much better than the past few seasons, i pray silver soul stays this way cause while not totally in your face the movement in this episode was way above the past couple seasons especially when gin and katsura were flinging the dad and hasegawa around. so the animation is better than rakuyou arc? why? this ep animation was better than the past 3, but rakuyou animation was much better than this i'd say.. Romandy said: Fricking hell. I cried a bit in class while watching this. I should really start watching Gintama from season 1. you might get disappointed in the first episodes, but don't give up it gets hell lot better. there are much better feel trips in gintama. you'll cry you eyes out if you cried watching this. but you need to be patient. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/39509 https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31353 Then the bigger problem, the movement being so floaty and at worst had way too much in the way of teleporting the characters rather than make them actually move fluidly, like here where they dont bother animating sakamoto actually dodging so they just draw him immediately behind he guy in 2 frames. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31458 then you have stuff like the obnoxious amount of ghosting to cover up how little in between frames they actually made so they just lower the transparency of previous frames making the screen a cluttered mess and also resulting in there being this floaty movement without any weight https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/30262 Now compare all of that to not just this episode's actions scenes which had weight, but also older scenes where they actually showcase the characters shifts in movements rather than just changing the https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/19096 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/16184 really the only particularly good looking part of the rakyou arc was the opening |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: Salamak said: god no rakyou might be the worst the show has ever looked barring some seriously bad looking episodes in the first 50 episodes. Not only was the art itself the least detailed it had ever been with everything looking really plasticky and without much shading, the biggest issue was it got so unbelievable lazy with the animation and movement sacrificing any real weight in favor of this floating smearing shit you see straight of dragonball. Almost everytime something was moving in the rakyou arc it had these obnoxious lines overlayed on everything to simulate fast movement that just made it look cheap. so the animation is better than rakuyou arc? why? this ep animation was better than the past 3, but rakuyou animation was much better than this i'd say.. you might get disappointed in the first episodes, but don't give up it gets hell lot better. there are much better feel trips in gintama. you'll cry you eyes out if you cried watching this. but you need to be patient. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/39509 https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31353 Then the bigger problem, the movement being so floaty and at worst had way too much in the way of teleporting the characters rather than make them actually move fluidly, like here where they dont bother animating sakamoto actually dodging so they just draw him immediately behind he guy in 2 frames. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31458 then you have stuff like the obnoxious amount of ghosting to cover up how little in between frames they actually made so they just lower the transparency of previous frames making the screen a cluttered mess and also resulting in there being this floaty movement without any weight https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/30262 Now compare all of that to not just this episode's actions scenes which had weight, but also older scenes where they actually showcase the characters shifts in movements rather than just changing the https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/19096 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/16184 really the only particularly good looking part of the rakyou arc was the opening Well i think kagura's mom part was pretty amazing too. And also ep 328(oboro tells everything he knows on utsuro) now that you point it out, i can finally see what everybody else where talking about. But the fight scenes in SA and FS arc are pretty good, better than previous seasons. And, these 2 arcs and the rakuyo arc were full of fight scenes. So they probably had a budget problem.. Things you mentioned are also kinda happening in previous seasons aswell but much less than rakuyo. Kamui always move like that apparently, his fight scene with housen and sogo are similar to that of him and gintoki. But thank you for answering and giving me those links, a lot of people were sayung rakuyo was badly animated and i couldn't see why. as for the final arc, i don't read the manga and i don't know how many fight scenes there will be, but if it's going to be something like the last 17 eps of gintama ° , it probably contains better ones like this : https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33011 average like this https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33017 and not that good like this https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/33012 but i hope they go all out. this show definitely deserves it. edit: its not really fair to compare these arcs with episode though. this was a very short fight, compared to all those heavy fights they have in those 3 arcs. |
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JizzyHitler said: This was the guy that did those animations(not Sakaki, the guy Sakaki is talking about) https://twitter.com/kiirobon/status/918611383092219905Salamak said: god no rakyou might be the worst the show has ever looked barring some seriously bad looking episodes in the first 50 episodes. Not only was the art itself the least detailed it had ever been with everything looking really plasticky and without much shading, the biggest issue was it got so unbelievable lazy with the animation and movement sacrificing any real weight in favor of this floating smearing shit you see straight of dragonball. Almost everytime something was moving in the rakyou arc it had these obnoxious lines overlayed on everything to simulate fast movement that just made it look cheap. so the animation is better than rakuyou arc? why? this ep animation was better than the past 3, but rakuyou animation was much better than this i'd say.. you might get disappointed in the first episodes, but don't give up it gets hell lot better. there are much better feel trips in gintama. you'll cry you eyes out if you cried watching this. but you need to be patient. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/39509 https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31353 Then the bigger problem, the movement being so floaty and at worst had way too much in the way of teleporting the characters rather than make them actually move fluidly, like here where they dont bother animating sakamoto actually dodging so they just draw him immediately behind he guy in 2 frames. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31458 then you have stuff like the obnoxious amount of ghosting to cover up how little in between frames they actually made so they just lower the transparency of previous frames making the screen a cluttered mess and also resulting in there being this floaty movement without any weight https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/30262 Now compare all of that to not just this episode's actions scenes which had weight, but also older scenes where they actually showcase the characters shifts in movements rather than just changing the https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/19096 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/16184 really the only particularly good looking part of the rakyou arc was the opening |
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| Meh episode. The only thing i liked is the very last part More madao next week xD |
| Good episode just like good old gintama.Does anybody how long this season will be? |
Yorozuyaaa said: So it basically comes to, would you rather have more weight with the animation and no smears, or less/no weight but smears and more movementJizzyHitler said: god no rakyou might be the worst the show has ever looked barring some seriously bad looking episodes in the first 50 episodes. Not only was the art itself the least detailed it had ever been with everything looking really plasticky and without much shading, the biggest issue was it got so unbelievable lazy with the animation and movement sacrificing any real weight in favor of this floating smearing shit you see straight of dragonball. Almost everytime something was moving in the rakyou arc it had these obnoxious lines overlayed on everything to simulate fast movement that just made it look cheap. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/39509 https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31353 Then the bigger problem, the movement being so floaty and at worst had way too much in the way of teleporting the characters rather than make them actually move fluidly, like here where they dont bother animating sakamoto actually dodging so they just draw him immediately behind he guy in 2 frames. https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/31458 then you have stuff like the obnoxious amount of ghosting to cover up how little in between frames they actually made so they just lower the transparency of previous frames making the screen a cluttered mess and also resulting in there being this floaty movement without any weight https://sakugabooru.com/post/show/30262 Now compare all of that to not just this episode's actions scenes which had weight, but also older scenes where they actually showcase the characters shifts in movements rather than just changing the https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/19096 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/16184 really the only particularly good looking part of the rakyou arc was the opening You are completely right!Finally someone expressed my thoughts. When I complained about animation while watching Rakuyou arc, everyone said tyhat animation is actually better. But I couldn't explain what is with wrong. Thank you. For me it comes in the middle, like the Utsuro fight in Rakuyou should have more weight(because if you read the manga version of the fight you'll know why that they felt like they had way more weight in the manga) but the Katsura fight makes sense to have more movement than weight(because that's how the manga looked) and the Kagura fight(from that Movie 1 clip that you guys shown) was all anime original so I think they went overboard with the weight...because if you look at stuff like Housen vs Kamui, Shinseguemi vs Kihetai soilders, etc. the humans/yatos shouldn't be having weight hold them down that much |
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| Happy end of this story between a daughter and amnesic father!!! |
MistyBlue said: Jetsies said: Really? But him being the father was already expected, it's expected from Gintama that EVERY character has a role. And it's better than adding a new character. Idk, it just felt more "off" to me than usual. Seeing a really minor character who barely showed up in the anime getting a deep backstory all of a sudden was strange. Idk, it just felt more "off" to me than usual. Seeing a really minor character who barely showed up in the anime getting a deep backstory all of a sudden was strange.[/quote] I know how you feel. I feel the same way, as if they're recycling people but it's happened in Gintama before but kind of feels cheap at times. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I'm a fan of Gintama but sometimes their character backstories just don't do it for me (for the minor characters usually). The story/plot is still good but I wanted to see some newly designed characters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Old's man's instinct to jump in everything from toilet to sewers to raging currents to save a boy who happened to be Ikumatsu's late husband. I ship the ramen waifu with Zura. I wonder since he's into NTR, does that mean he wouldn't mind if someone else porked her and he watched? That part when Loincloth Lawd jumped in the river to save his daughter just as Zura was about to jump in was kind of touching. I hope her dad can live with her now but since his memory is shit and is something like Drew Barrymore from 50 First Dates then he'll forget her or something every day and he'll probably end up wandering the streets and Ikumatsu dragging him back home. That bit at the end was the best though, Golgo-like character and Madao. I can't wait. |
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| So far the animation in this episode was the best in this season. |
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| After all these years... After all the comedic episodes that homeless old guy has ever been in... Finally, it turns out that he's the father of Ikumatsu!!! This is absolutely Top 10 Biggest Anime Plot Twist Ever!!! Well, this is Gintama anyway... Hideaki could literally take anyone and anything and make them special! (Like that one time where some of us cry when half of the ep is about a dying vending machine... |
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| Well that ending wasn't all too bad. And the part after the ED sure was interesting as well! |
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| heartwarming episode ikumatsu should have appeared more during the course of the series :( ohh how I missed hasegawa-san xd |
| Why, you say... Don't you get it? If you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. |
| This was a sweet little arc and I loved how everything came together in the end. Also dem Gintama feels.. |
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| I really hope they end up together... Even if she's focussed on her (dead) husband |
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| What a nice episode, but still Hasegawa-hamemr is OP. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
FeministSensei said: I can't take more sadness...Romandy said: Fricking hell. I cried a bit in class while watching this. I should really start watching Gintama from season 1. Prepare yourself. There are so many episodes that give more impact than this. :) |
| The truth is revealed, and in the end it's a relatively happy ending! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Damn ... that must've been super hard on the mother. - To see your husband with another woman after a while and not even remembering his previous life. Memories really is what makes us human. I wouldn't mind Katsura going out with Ikumatsu. |
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| Ikumatsu and that grandpa have been around ever since forever, who would have thought they were actually estranged father and daughter. Gintama at it again. |
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| Quite the sweet and sad episode. The fact that the child he saved turned out to be Ikumatsu's husband and brought the father and daughter together is touching. Loved the shot of our four heroes walking in the snow. But the best was the post ED scene. Next episode Madao and the Shinsengumi-Mimawarigumi combo. |
  I want to know what it is, this 'sin' they say I've committed. |
| I kinda expected the "lord" to be her father, they sorta gave it away last episode. |
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| I expected this season to focus only on comedy episodes and then I get this tearjerker....that's not fair ;_; I'm glad he gave Ikumatsu a good story, I've always liked her. To think that homeless guy would turn into more than just comedy relief after all this time. Beautiful! |
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| Who would've thought of them being realated at all? Wonderful story! |
| Ah yes, a heartwarming end. I really love these mini gintama arcs. Bringing back the feelings from earlier seasons. |
| Ah, what a really touching episode. Great arc though. |
| All this time I thought that homeless guy was the ghost of Zenzo's father lmao. Anyway this miniarc was predictable besides that and pretty boring. Glad my man Katsura could impress the girl though. Idk if I'm burnt out of Gintama humor or not but haven't really liked this season so far. Shinsengumi next ep though <3 |
| Poor Hasegawa. He turned into a formidable human weapon though. lol That was a touching ending. I'm getting hungry for some ramen myself. |
| I knew it, it was Musashi! We got the usual Gintama ending sauce not that i complain but it was not as impactful. |
 「 To other people, I might not have changed at all, but I feel like I was able to change... 」 |
| Oh so the old man got amnesia when saving a kid and that's why he forgot about his family, and surprisingly the kid he saved became Ikumatsu's husband! Lmao Madao is the best weapon they could use during the fight against the other homeless guys xD And that's a pretty good happy ending with Ikumatsu's father returning at the end |
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| The obvious conclusion to this story, nothing special to see here. |
| Well, there goes my hypothesis of that old man being Gin's father....quite surprising nonetheless of him being related to somebody.....now I wonder if they got something for Madao.... |
| Harika, Harika, Harika. Tam bir baş yapıt bu anime ya efsane. Awesome, Awesome, Awesome... A complete masterpiece, this anime is a legend. |
| The usual Gintama small arcs, that ending was so sad. Great story and conclusion. Now the next episode is what I don't like about this season. I can't watch Isaburo like that. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
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