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Sep 29, 2017 12:08 AM
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Holy hell that ending. I would be scared out of my wits seeing a tsunami coming at me, so despair inducing. Sanji better poison that cake or something to incapacitate or killBig Mom.

Also what an amazing piece of Shichibukai art in the beginning.
Sep 29, 2017 12:12 AM
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The straw-hats are obviously going to die next chapter.

Katakuri's really been a standout character this arc. Characterization!
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Sep 29, 2017 12:16 AM
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I have a feeling someone will help them.. nekomamushi with marco maybe? XD
Sep 29, 2017 12:20 AM
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Also..about twenty chapters or so, I remember Big Mom's portrayal being lackluster. Since the assassination plan thing, that's changed fast.
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Sep 29, 2017 12:22 AM
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They somehow need to hold out for another 3 hours? They are doomed!
Sep 29, 2017 12:29 AM
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Sanji, Pudding & Chiffon making the cake. LETS GO!!!

DAMN a massive wave heading for the Thousand Sunny. How the hell are the Straw Hats gonna get out of this one?
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Sep 29, 2017 12:34 AM
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This chapter was just amazing.I really love the part with Pudding and Sanji..
I'm starting to like Pudding more and more.I think she is Sanji's soulmate and she does looks really cute dressing as a cook.
Well Luffy now going to be get 200% serious vs Katakuri and still i see no hope for him beating him.The straw Hats almost doom by that tsunami, may be Jimbe can do something to save them.
P.S I never been so happy to see that there is not a break next week.
Sep 29, 2017 12:39 AM
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Also..about twenty chapters or so, I remember Big Mom's portrayal being lackluster. Since the assassination plan thing, that's changed fast.


That's the exact thing I was about to say. People directly stated that Big Mom is not on par with the other Yonkous, and that has changed drastically.

I mean she gave a tsunami a soul! I thought that wasn't possible because it was water and devil fruit users are weak to it but never mind that.

Nami's expression at the end was heartbreaking
Sep 29, 2017 1:08 AM
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A tsunami with a creepy face thanks to Big Mom's ability is following behind the Thousand Sunny. That's terrifying. Not only is Big Mom standing on top of the tsunami too, but Luffy couldn't stop Katakuri and the Big Mom Pirates' forces inside the Mirro-World. The Straw Hats are completely outmatched. D:

The only thing I think that could save them is the Wedding Cake being prepared by Sanji, Pudding, and Chiffon. (Pudding looks cute in this chapter. <3) But it'll take at least 3 hours to finish preparing the cake.. :/
Sep 29, 2017 1:24 AM
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Ngl for me this chapter felt a little lackluster.
Sanji’s deckaration to show them the “real face of cooking” just didn’t hit me with that badass moment i was expecting

And luffy’s fight with Katakuri being off screened just left a bad taste in my mouth. Now im not saying we needed to see a full 5+ chapters fight or something but getting barely anything at all was disheartening.

Not a bad but not a great one either
3/5
Sep 29, 2017 1:41 AM

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Sanji making the cake... It's like an episode from Lazy Town. I found it rather cringe.

I was expecting Luffy to use a new technique by the end of the chapter. I guess we need to wait another week now. Maybe we'll see an awakening, or something similar. They really need a deus ex machina right now.
Sep 29, 2017 2:16 AM

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These last few chapters have been outstanding...
Thank god we're not on break next week!
Luffy looks proper pissed at his powerlessness, it wouldn't surprise me if he accidentally awakened next chapter. As for the crew, I'm pretty sure Germa are about to come back into the equation, even after Sanji's conversation with Judge. The crew is fucked otherwise.
Sep 29, 2017 2:38 AM
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Surely big mom has to be the strongest character (or kaido) in one piece. After seeing all this how can the admirals even touch her given how op her devil fruit is not to mention she can just rip us a massive tsunami at will.
Sep 29, 2017 2:45 AM

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That was amazing! A pretty good chapter, enjoyed the scene for the entire cake preparation process. And of course the best of them all, Katakuri and BM

Still can't see Luffy beating him, and the crew literally needs a miracle to get out from BM insane power and hax DF
Sep 29, 2017 2:47 AM

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half the chapter wasted under the cooking pretense

the rest was a continued drag out of the fight, this seems like a kubo story telling style and obviously it's really bad

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Sep 29, 2017 3:09 AM

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despaaiirrrr.... not really...
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Sep 29, 2017 3:24 AM

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That final panel was terrifying. Surely the Straw Hats are going to make it out of this in the end, but right now I don't think I can even predict how that will happen.
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Sep 29, 2017 3:33 AM
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And luffy’s fight with Katakuri being off screened just left a bad taste in my mouth. Now im not saying we needed to see a full 5+ chapters fight or something but getting barely anything at all was disheartening.


Well what was there to see? Luffy getting beaten up some more? We already saw that in the last chapter. This would just have stretched everything out unnecessarily.

As for how they get out of that. Well my bet is either on the Sun Pirates doing something or maybe the sea "freezing" over suddenly because it is night time. As far as I remember that part of the ocean is juice or something that hardens when it gets cold.
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I don't even mind that Sanji isn't participating in the fight, since he's foremost a cook anyway, can't wait to see the ultimate cake.

And gotta say that I underestimated Katakuri,thought that he would be a tough oponent, but that it would be an more even fight where Luffy could show off a bit, yet he's wrecking him like an amateur ..would really like to know how he conpares to the other commanders of a Younkou and an Admiral. However Luffy will definitely make his comeback in this fight.

And holy shit, dat tsunami, the power of Big Mom is frightening.

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Sep 29, 2017 3:38 AM
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They somehow need to hold out for another 3 hours? They are doomed!


This doesn´t have to happen simoultaniously, Sanji´s pov may very well be in the past. Anyway chapter 4/5 I just pray to god that Oda doesn´t pull his off screen bullshit and has Katakuri defeated that way.

Kuma said:
despaaiirrrr.... not really...


Summed it up. It´s Shounen so the main cast never really is in danger. We all knew that when Naruto and Sasuke "died" they´d somehow come back stronger it´s the same here.
Sep 29, 2017 4:07 AM
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TCRfanatic said:
OsyOzo said:

And luffy’s fight with Katakuri being off screened just left a bad taste in my mouth. Now im not saying we needed to see a full 5+ chapters fight or something but getting barely anything at all was disheartening.


Well what was there to see? Luffy getting beaten up some more? We already saw that in the last chapter. This would just have stretched everything out unnecessarily.



True I guess having them fight even though it was inevitable that he would lose would be pretty mundane. I guess I’m more annoyed that it was kinda hyped up by the last chapter or 2 to be kinda “over” suddenly didnt feel good.
Sep 29, 2017 4:50 AM
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Aokiji Incoming lul
Sep 29, 2017 5:15 AM
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So Pudding acting skills comes back into play, she has been so nutso for a while I forget. And her fainting Sanji places a compliment it so funny and so cute. Got to hand to you Sanji, you turned a cold blooded killer into this, you got skills with the charm, you got skills.

Can Luffy just beat Dogtooth already and be done with this arc. I don't care if he can predict the future, Luffy should beat him already, this arc has gone on long enough. I am ready to move on.

So Big Ma is tsunami, consider what is going on in the world, bad timing Oda.
Sep 29, 2017 5:23 AM
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They're in the sea - maybe Jinbei can summon some sharks or something to help them out!
Sep 29, 2017 5:47 AM

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Pudding fainting was really cute ^^
That last page damn, wonder how they'll get out of this mess.
Sep 29, 2017 6:41 AM

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I think the chapter wasted too many pages on Sanji and Pudding which I found quite boring tbh. Luffy is in a very difficult situation while the crew is about to get wrecked by Big Mom's tsunami. Glad that there is no break next week.
Sep 29, 2017 7:11 AM

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Pudding fainting every time Sanji praises her makes me laugh. xD
Glad to see the cooking is well underway without hindrance.

Luffy is getting the shit beaten out of him by Katakuri. :(

The final panel with Big Mom on a Tsunami with a face is terrifying. I have no clue how the StrawHats are gonna get out of this.
Shanks appearance when? XD
Sep 29, 2017 7:38 AM

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Rayleigh knows better than anyone on OP-verse right now about how much it is needed to survive New World. He wouldn't have let Luffy leave if Luffy is still this useless. Luffy still has more up to his sleeves.
Sep 29, 2017 8:55 AM

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A cake that would take at least close to 3 hours to finish, and a freaking Tsunami made by Big Mom with a soul. Yeah depending on how 'luck' plays for all of them. They are already dead. The Tsunami with a soul is a little over the top now because if she could do that from the beginning why couldn't she do that on the other yonko then? I hope there is a side effect to this because it is already becoming too much of a strong fruit... XD
Sep 29, 2017 9:04 AM
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Rayleigh knows better than anyone on OP-verse right now about how much it is needed to survive New World. He wouldn't have let Luffy leave if Luffy is still this useless. Luffy still has more up to his sleeves.


Luffy can definitely survive New World with his power right now, but against yonkou is different thing altogether.
Sep 29, 2017 9:55 AM
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Duuude, what about the submarine. They squish together, or a coup de boo. Plot twist, aokiji has been following them. Or the sun pirates. Wait, what about the water 7 giant ass wave. Idk, these are my thoughts.
Sep 29, 2017 10:11 AM

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My heart can't take much more.

But I wish pudding would disappear already, she's incredibly annoying, on par with carrot at least.
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This was a fun chapter. The Sanji and Pudding scenes were funny and the cake is finally starting to be made which was good. Seeing Katakuri care for his siblings was nice, as much of a mess the Charlotte Family at least some of them seem to genuinely care for one another. Luffy really does have his hands full here, he still hasn't used Fourth Gear so I'm sure he's got something in mind to turn the tables. Big Mom making that ocean homie was cool as heck, I'm guessing the Sun Pirates are going to show up to help the other Straw Hats get out of this predicament. I'm really eager to see how things will play out in next week's chapter.
Sep 29, 2017 11:24 AM

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Instead of the fight we get 10 pages dedicated to the preparation of a cake and Pudding being annoying, finished off by a cliffhanger ending that obviously means nothing. Well, at least it was enjoyable seeing Luffy completely outmatched for once. Even though we didn't see it... Still waiting for that asspull save though.

3/5
Sep 29, 2017 1:17 PM
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Man, what a chapter. There's no way Luffy will get out of that miiror world easily. He needs to pull something off or else they might die.

That ending tho. Creepy TsuNAMI
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Perfect time for Jinbei to shine.
Sep 29, 2017 2:20 PM
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half the chapter wasted under the cooking pretense

the rest was a continued drag out of the fight, this seems like a kubo story telling style and obviously it's really bad

Nami: ' Luffy, are you okay? Are you okay? Are you okay Luffy? ... '


Kubo does fights without any breaks or scene transitions to other things happening until the fight is over though.

You also gotta keep in mind that despite a weekly release a manga (and its arcs) need to be critically viewed when they are done. Pacing here is important. Some chapters can feel dragged out by constantly waiting a week for them to come out (just do other things in life while they get made) and could suffer immensely for other readers who pick up the series later when things happen too fast for them as they don't need to wait a week for them to come out all the time. Just to throws this in here.
Sep 29, 2017 2:23 PM

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This is what I call being in a real pinch, everything's falling apart Luffy is being handed his ass and big mom is here(where the hell is the cake Sanji, chiffon and pudding). This chapter made my heart almost sick with a heart attack the way it was enticing.
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Sep 29, 2017 2:35 PM

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Big Mom's soul power are OP as appropriate. Considering that she turned a forest into Homies, turning waves into Homies is pretty logical. Although, I do wonder if her powers can be washed out by sea waterr. I don't think that the tsunami Homie would last long enough before the sea cancels her power. Or Moria's power were just not that powerful.

Also, I totally want Sanji and Pudding to get married now.
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despaaiirrrr.... not really...

DESPAIIRRRRR

Yeah of course, obviously they're not going to die. Still, felt threatening enough.

Also great to see Luffy look competent. That's always a good thing. And showing how Oda deals with Totland's view on the straw-hat team up with Pudding seemed like a nice touch.
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The cake is going good with sanji guessing it's contents and luffy being beaten down but still getting some advice out.
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Sep 29, 2017 4:26 PM

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The situation is bad that there is no way anything other than plot armour that can save them. The funny thing is that Oda rarely uses plot armor so I'm interested if there is a secret approach to change this around without plot armor that I haven't thought of... looking forward to the next chapter


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Kuma said:
despaaiirrrr.... not really...

DESPAIIRRRRR

Yeah of course, obviously they're not going to die. Still, felt threatening enough.

Also great to see Luffy look competent. That's always a good thing. And showing how Oda deals with Totland's view on the straw-hat team up with Pudding seemed like a nice touch.

it make her become really comical tooo TBH...
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The situation is bad that there is no way anything other than plot armour that can save them. The funny thing is that Oda rarely uses plot armor so I'm interested if there is a secret approach to change this around without plot armor that I haven't thought of... looking forward to the next chapter




I can´t say it any better.
Sep 29, 2017 5:03 PM

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Wasn't a big fan of the first half, last page is dope though.
Sep 29, 2017 9:19 PM
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Gear 5th, guys???
Sep 30, 2017 12:17 AM
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Poseidon incoming !!!
from the looks of it , it doesn't seem like Nami can tame it this time
Brook probably can't do anything about this soul..
I wonder who will save the day this time

although after see the last page , the first thing that come to my mind was Aokiji
Nekomamushi and Marco can probably be reinforcement , but I doubt even marco can do something about this tsunami
the better possibility was Jinbei (may be with crews) , surely some of them combined can carry Thousand Sunny outside the range ..even Jinbei one person might be enough to push ship outside the Tsunami's range
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it make her become really comical tooo TBH...

With very very few exceptions to the rule. Lucci, Akainu, Kuma. One Piece characters being comical while simultaneously being serious is it's defining trait. Even Crocodile is a straight-man, to a degree, isn't it?

Granted, they do need to be some amount of threatening, too.
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Holy sh*t, just as I thought big mom was disappointingly weaker than I thought in this arc, that happens!, wow great job Oda.
Sep 30, 2017 11:04 AM
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Has anyone think of ex-admiral Kuzan? Now they are facing a giant tsunami, and Kuzan can freeze them in one shot. It would be interesting if he fights with big mom....
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