| Why does there —ironically— exist a stigma on individuals who are not entertained by sexual content in anime (or in any other form of creation)? In the latter days and weeks, I have witnessed a great disdain toward people who show animosity or disfavour toward anime series that are inclined to involve sexual substance. I have found that the userbase finds it inconceivable that there exist individuals who are not entranced or roused by said affairs, and shows little to no regard toward those who concoct enough arguments to make themselves believable in their argument of disliking the matter. Either the person is said to plainly be lying, a quiet degenerate too nervous to express their true motives, or a child still underdeveloped and too young to grasp the concept. I have expressed myself in this way in a variety of these topics, however have unfortunately gotten overlooked (likely due to the cluttering of messages). Personally, I am a very non-sexual person; I bear absolutely no interest in the execution or witnessing of intercourse and anything related to the subject, and while I would not like to label myself, society would likely name me an asexual. I have come to wonder why there is so very little understanding in this phenomenon. I myself do understand that reproduction is a very natural occurrence and that the media-coverage on this item exists on all possible platforms and settings, it is simply something I would never participate in or desire to withold, and there are multitudes of others who share this sentiment, too. Yet there does not seem to exist a mutual understanding and this is quite upsetting. I would like to hear some voices on both sides; what is the argument of those who do not believe non-sexual people (or people who simply are not interested in this content in the media), and are there folks about who share this conviction? |
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| OP is lying, a quiet degenerate too nervous to express his or her true motives and is also a child still underdeveloped. Three-in-one lucky packet. |
| The reason is because people are idiots. There's a mental disorder called "autism" that prevents people from being able to see things from others perspectives. People with this disorder either believe everyone sees things the same way they do and have the same information they have or they believe that they are the only one with any feelings and everyone else just appear to be conscious. Even people without the disorder may express similar world views, hence the phrase "everyone on the internet is autistic". |
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| TBH I like stuff with ecchi & a lot of sex in it if were talking about a story about romance, because realistically when you get in a relationship with someone there's a lot of sex, cheating and retarded drama involved all the time. It's not too far from reality if you can overlook the excessiveness in most sex scenes for obvious reasons to appease a certain type of audience. But for me at least, at an older age now, I can overlook all of that because it's just more enjoyable to read/watch if there is a good storyline. If it's just like braindead fanservice to appeal to people who want to see T&A, I'll lose interest fast. But if there's actually a decent story/plot, then I actually prefer it. |
| YOU WANT MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING & DISCUSSION? Hahahahahahahahaha. Not until I stop breathing. Yes, people are idiots and hypocrites. I'm much better, yada, yada. I'm soo edgy. It's not that people hate sex, after all, even people who define as asexual just know that they'll be virgins forever and want an excuse for being a virgin. Normally shows which revolve around heavy amounts of fanservice try too hard to be serious, are boring, stupid and uncreative. Highschool dxd is a good show because it knows what it wants to be. I'd kill myself if I have to watch asterisk war again. You definitely have shit taste if don't like sum BIG ANIME TIDDIES!! |
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| I don't think there is a large stigma against them but a lot of people who think like this pick the wrong fights. The thing is a lot of people who don't like sexual content in anime complain about it's presence in ecchi anime. There's a problem because you are going out and complaining about sexual content in anime aimed towards those looking for sexual content. |
| Some people may not have sexual attraction Some people may have sexual attraction to the opposite gender that is being represented as sexual Some people may just not be interested Some people may want a time and place, where they watch hentai for sexual arousement and watch shounen action stuff to be entertained by fight scenes, and don't like any mix of the two In any of these cases people are justified in not liking sexual content in anime; and I can understand why it may take away from the experience for them. They have a valid opinion, just as anyone would have an opinion on why they didn't like a show. Even if you liked sexual content in anime there's a limit, see Fairy Tail. The fanservice in there goes far too overboard; while in it's OVAs and filler arcs that can be acceptable, it takes away far too much during fight scenes, definitely at the end of the arc. It makes it so I can't take any fights seriously, and gives me a bland opinion of the show overall. |
| There seems to be an assumption that everyone celebrates limitless sexuality and fornication, therefore anyone who doesn't is clearly repressed, frustrated, or a religious nut. On the other hand, the threads I tend to see are baseless, unsupported claims that ecchi and fanservice are ruining the industry. It's not just a matter of preference, it's a crusade to deprive anyone who enjoys those things and call them base animals. |
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| I'm not asexual, just a straight female who doesn't want to be caught with husbandos on her screen because she would be judged. But since most sexual content in my anime experience involves girls, I don't like most of it. :) |
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| I learn something new everyday around here. And here I thought that the people who like sexual content in anime are the one being stigmatised. I mean if you say you like ecchi, you will certainly be looked down on. |
Ratohnhaketon said: On the other hand, the threads I tend to see are baseless, unsupported claims that ecchi and fanservice are ruining the industry. It's not just a matter of preference, it's a crusade to deprive anyone who enjoys those things and call them base animals. i like this statement OP: anyway, its not asexual people im talking about... if you're asexual, you're asexual. im talking about the people who are not which is the vast majority of people. not saying asexuals shouldn't have a voice, but its just so uncommon you can't expect it to be taken note... of, i mean, ive never met anyone irl who claimed asexuality, so you can't expect me to think about them when i complain about people who complain about sexual fanservice. i argue against people who: are actually hiding their love for sexual fanservice... YES THEY EXIST... people who claim sexual fanservice is ruining anime SJW's who claim its sexist or offensive people who claim were all loser virgins in our moms basements people who claim were all pedophiles people who think everything sexual might as well just be porn etc these are many of my issues and as a straight male for example, am i supposed to believe that another straight male is "turned off" because a pair of tits was shoved in their face? that really sounds bogus. im not saying every straight male likes titties or ass, but in general, the idea that sexual body parts are ever a "turn off" sounds fake again, im not talking about asexual people, im talking about your normal person with a sex drive who claims perversion to be negative in certain situations or just in general |
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| I am very much attracted to women. I just hate out of place sexual content in what I'm watching. If it does not add anything to the series, why is it there? I take it as the creators assuming I can be entertained by wiggling cartoon breasts in front of me as if they are keys in front of a baby and it is insulting. Everything in a series should have a purpose and you can't cover up your garbage story by drawing anime tiddies. |
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| You're talking about it as if this a real issue. This is only a slight issue within this specific community forum. Other forums show disdain and contempt to people who like sexual content in Anime. But even in this forum, the divide between people who like fan service and those who do not is relatively equal. But I have to ask those of you who are disgusted at fan service. Why would you force yourselves to take part in the medium? "I shouldn't HAVE TO see ass and tits in a good show! It's distracting, uncomfortable and adds nothing to the show!" Well okay.... Yeah... They're valid points and all but, why then engage with a medium that is well known for lewdness and the like? It's like knowing that a certain genre of book generally isn't made to cater to your taste and has tropes you hate, but regardless of that, you STILL want to read said genre knowing it isn't made to cater to your taste and them tropes are mostly always there. Then you start reading a book from that genre, find out the book has the tropes and isn't to your liking, then you complain about it to people that love said genre and like\don't care about said tropes. It's nonsensical. What would most people do if they encountered such a conundrum? They'd check out the best that genre has to offer that is to their taste and doesn't contain the tropes they hate. Then they'd indulge on what they found then move on. Not stay reading shit they know has a 60-80% chance to infuriate them. |
CCleanerAug 12, 2016 4:38 PM
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Onaiwa said: I am very much attracted to women. I just hate out of place sexual content in what I'm watching. If it does not add anything to the series, why is it there? I take it as the creators assuming I can be entertained by wiggling cartoon breasts in front of me as if they are keys in front of a baby and it is insulting. Everything in a series should have a purpose and you can't cover up your garbage story by drawing anime tiddies. It does add something to the series. Boobs add boobs to the series. I don't see why would be covering up whatever story with great dialogue be better than covering it up with great ecchi. Also, whether story is good or bad is completely subjective anyway so "cover up your garbage story" was a pointless statement to begin with. |
| Depending on the time and place it's mentioned.. With the wrong timing and wording, it can sound like "im such a special edgy snowflake i hate ecchi >:( and moe harem;i only like good story and writing!!the anime industry doesnt do good anime because le otaku pandering sells" which i find hard to take seriously.. |
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| Welcome to internet guys where every side is right about some matter. Now let's talk about problem.Personally I don't hate animes with ecchi/harem just because of their genres.People should understand this:Watching a pointless anime where there is no character development , no "real plot" generic braindead male MC is not for "everyone".I always say this:If I want to watch something with just sexual content there are good porn sites for this.Now you can say "but I don't want to watch porn I love anime and watching hentai pleases my both desires" and this is fine.What I can't stand is this type of person: Me:I don't like those kind of animes it's pointless to me. Super-Triggered Guy:Haha pointless?Watching monogatari is not pointless but High Scholl of Dead is pointless huh.The only thing monogatari does better is character so what?You dislike the anime just because it's genre booo you.I hate you because you dislike sexual content. I mean come on man yes I hate animes like that but I don't care who is watching what and just because saying this makes me who don't like sexual content guy. I love monogatari for dialogues characters and also for echhi/harem theme.What I don't like is animes that using those genres without backing with other genres.I hope I made my point clear. Summary:To me watching anime just because of ecchi/harem a.k.a. boobies is not my thing.I prefer porn for this but I am not against who likes those kind of animes and this shouldn't made me hater.Thanks. |
sasalxAug 12, 2016 4:43 PM
Lestat- said: .I myself do understand that reproduction is a very natural occurrence and that the media-coverage on this item exists on all possible platforms and settings So you are saying that you are stigmatized for representing your sexuality and yet you do accept the natural law of reproduction. This is a paradox in itself, because sexual activity is necessary to pass on your genetic alleles and each species is, whether they like it or not, required to abide by these laws. People will become offended if you show a dislike to an occurrence that is vital for our survival, because you are stating that you would rather not reproduce and therefore discontinue your hereditary information. It`s not a stigma, it´s human nature. |
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sasalx said: Welcome to internet guys where every side is right about some matter. I am not either side.. I am the truth! |
ahoyanen said: Onaiwa said: I am very much attracted to women. I just hate out of place sexual content in what I'm watching. If it does not add anything to the series, why is it there? I take it as the creators assuming I can be entertained by wiggling cartoon breasts in front of me as if they are keys in front of a baby and it is insulting. Everything in a series should have a purpose and you can't cover up your garbage story by drawing anime tiddies. It does add something to the series. Boobs add boobs to the series. I don't see why would be covering up whatever story with great dialogue be better than covering it up with great ecchi. Also, whether story is good or bad is completely subjective anyway so "cover up your garbage story" was a pointless statement to begin with. yes, thank you, i love you, people who say that don't realize that its all bias or subjectivity but not only that, it makes characters more attractive. a character with a likeable personality and nice boobs and ass that i get to see every now and then is going to be more attractive than a character who only has the likeable personality |
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DESUDESUUU said: You're talking about it as if this a real issue. This is only a slight issue within this specific community forum. Other forums show disdain and contempt to people who like sexual content in Anime. But even in this forum, the divide between people who like fan service and those who do not is relatively equal. But I have to ask those of you who are disgusted at fan service. Why would you force yourselves to take part in the medium? "I shouldn't HAVE TO see ass and tits in a good show! It's distracting, uncomfortable and adds nothing to the show!" Well okay.... Yeah... They're valid points and all but, why then engage with a medium that is well known for lewdness and the like? It's like knowing that a certain genre of book generally isn't made to cater to your taste and has tropes you hate, but regardless of that, you STILL want to read said genre knowing it isn't made to cater to your taste and them tropes are mostly always there. Then you start reading a book from that genre, find out the book has the tropes and isn't to your liking, then you complain about it to people that love said genre and likedon't care about said tropes. It's nonsensical. What would most people do if they encountered such a conundrum? They'd check out the best that genre has to offer that is to their taste and doesn't contain the tropes they hate. Then they'd indulge on what they found then move on. Not stay reading shit they know has a 60-80% chance to infuriate them. If 60-80% of anime were unnecessarily fan-service heavy, I wouldn't watch anime but that isn't really the case. Most shows aren't packed with it and the ones that are typically aren't good anyway. So while what you've said in the second paragraph makes sense, I don't feel it really applies to people disliking fan-service heavy anime. |
| Why is it ironic? One thing is oneself's libido, and the other is liking to find sexualized content in entertainment, particularly in bad taste as anime does, putting a lot of emphasis on those particular elements. It seems to me as if the rest is not as important because the appeal, the idea of 'service' and ergo the attempt to hold the viewer's attention is focussed in those forced camera angles, unfitting outfits and whatnot. It's just like, try harder if you want to entertain me. |
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ThePyromaniac said: If 60-80% of anime were unnecessarily fan-service heavy, I wouldn't watch anime but that isn't really the case. Most shows aren't packed with it and the ones that are typically aren't good anyway. So while what you've said in the second paragraph makes sense, I don't feel it really applies to people disliking fan-service heavy anime. Well well! What about Motoko's boobs and booty all over the Ghost in the Shell? |
| I wonder how life would be if sex drives and perversion were non-existent... |
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ahoyanen said: ThePyromaniac said: If 60-80% of anime were unnecessarily fan-service heavy, I wouldn't watch anime but that isn't really the case. Most shows aren't packed with it and the ones that are typically aren't good anyway. So while what you've said in the second paragraph makes sense, I don't feel it really applies to people disliking fan-service heavy anime. Well well! What about Motoko's boobs and booty all over the Ghost in the Shell? It didn't bother me that much tbh. I thought her design in S1 of SAC was terrible and it did bother me early on but not enough to impede my enjoyment. The nudity in the 95 movie was pretty tasteful all in all and it never felt completely out of place. I'm generally not bothered by nudity/fan service in doses but it can become grating when the show constantly calls attention to it as if that is the only thing worth watching. |
YayaChibi said: lol..is it odd that I read that wall of text like it was as simply written as 'u gots bad tast m8' lol There is always that one person that will dislike everything. Like I said at my post.Everyone loves to thing they are right.For this they don't care what other side thinks.Let's make an example: -Hey guys SAO is bad +Hahaha hater SAO is good because.... -Now stop there.Even it is good for you this is not in my case and this should not trigger you.If its good for you how wonderful but just because I don't like this anime now I am hater?I have my opinions too.... +No they are not real.You just hate it because you want to be different.I like this anime and everyone should too -Based on a real story a.k.a. every arguments in internet. |
| The person lying to yourself is you, OP. People create these new, edgy names like asexual(XD) to justify too many things. Just cause your subconsciousness is preventing you from showing interest on the outside doesnt mean you dont have any. Also the community bashes everyone the same so i guess theres no problem :D |
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ThePyromaniac said: DESUDESUUU said: You're talking about it as if this a real issue. This is only a slight issue within this specific community forum. Other forums show disdain and contempt to people who like sexual content in Anime. But even in this forum, the divide between people who like fan service and those who do not is relatively equal. But I have to ask those of you who are disgusted at fan service. Why would you force yourselves to take part in the medium? "I shouldn't HAVE TO see ass and tits in a good show! It's distracting, uncomfortable and adds nothing to the show!" Well okay.... Yeah... They're valid points and all but, why then engage with a medium that is well known for lewdness and the like? It's like knowing that a certain genre of book generally isn't made to cater to your taste and has tropes you hate, but regardless of that, you STILL want to read said genre knowing it isn't made to cater to your taste and them tropes are mostly always there. Then you start reading a book from that genre, find out the book has the tropes and isn't to your liking, then you complain about it to people that love said genre and likedon't care about said tropes. It's nonsensical. What would most people do if they encountered such a conundrum? They'd check out the best that genre has to offer that is to their taste and doesn't contain the tropes they hate. Then they'd indulge on what they found then move on. Not stay reading shit they know has a 60-80% chance to infuriate them. If 60-80% of anime were unnecessarily fan-service heavy, I wouldn't watch anime but that isn't really the case. Most shows aren't packed with it and the ones that are typically aren't good anyway. So while what you've said in the second paragraph makes sense, I don't feel it really applies to people disliking fan-service heavy anime. They aren't fan-service heavy, no. But they definitely do have fan-service in them, GOTS is even an example of it. |
CCleanerAug 12, 2016 5:21 PM
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| if browsing MAL for the past year has taught me anything, it's that you are in the majority OP, and the people who enjoy the sexual content in their animes have a stigma attached to them. |
| If they're complaining about an ecchi show having fanservice, then yeah it is a dumb reason to complain, unless they're complaining about the nature of the fanservice (like say an underage character getting molested) which would be a valid complaint. It's definitely a valid complaint if it's an action show which isn't even tagged as ecchi yet still has fanservice. In practically every fight scene in Code Geass, we get closeups of Kallen's T&A. What's the point lmao. |
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scruf4ls said: if browsing MAL for the past year has taught me anything, it's that you are in the majority OP, and the people who enjoy the sexual content in their animes have a stigma attached to them. I'd say it's about equal if not a little bit in favour of the fan-service haters. I'm just so sick and tired of this shit being constantly debated, then debated again, then again, and again. It's an absolutely redundant talking point now but the people who complain just don't shut up. |
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DESUDESUUU said: scruf4ls said: if browsing MAL for the past year has taught me anything, it's that you are in the majority OP, and the people who enjoy the sexual content in their animes have a stigma attached to them. I'd say it's about equal if not a little bit in favour of the fan-service haters. I'm just so sick and tired of this shit being constantly debated, then debated again, then again, and again. It's an absolutely redundant talking point now but the people who complain just don't shut up. it's not really about the fact that girls have watermelon sized breast or that there was an unnecessary panty shot that gets people triggered with fanservice, but rather that it detracts from the story. and that's why there's a weekly ecchi thread from both parties. imo ecchi should be watched with low expectations, (with exceptions like the monogatari series.) but i guess that people feel that everything in an anime needs to relevant to the story, and i think that's the real issue lies. |
scruf4ls said: DESUDESUUU said: I'd say it's about equal if not a little bit in favour of the fan-service haters. I'm just so sick and tired of this shit being constantly debated, then debated again, then again, and again. It's an absolutely redundant talking point now but the people who complain just don't shut up. it's not really about the fact that girls have watermelon sized breast or that there was an unnecessary panty shot that gets people triggered with fanservice, but rather that it detracts from the story. and that's why there's a weekly ecchi thread from both parties. imo ecchi should be watched with low expectations, (with exceptions like the monogatari series.) but i guess that people feel that everything in an anime needs to relevant to the story, and i think that's the real issue lies. Yeah, I get that. But, as I said above, what's the point in engaging in a medium that barely caters for you? What is the point of trudging through shit that you know you hate? |
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ahoyanen said: ThePyromaniac said: If 60-80% of anime were unnecessarily fan-service heavy, I wouldn't watch anime but that isn't really the case. Most shows aren't packed with it and the ones that are typically aren't good anyway. So while what you've said in the second paragraph makes sense, I don't feel it really applies to people disliking fan-service heavy anime. Well well! What about Motoko's boobs and booty all over the Ghost in the Shell? Not surprising considering the origins of this franchise. There's some really kinky stuff there. |
DESUDESUUU said: scruf4ls said: it's not really about the fact that girls have watermelon sized breast or that there was an unnecessary panty shot that gets people triggered with fanservice, but rather that it detracts from the story. and that's why there's a weekly ecchi thread from both parties. imo ecchi should be watched with low expectations, (with exceptions like the monogatari series.) but i guess that people feel that everything in an anime needs to relevant to the story, and i think that's the real issue lies. Yeah, I get that. But, as I said above, what's the point in engaging in a medium that barely caters for you? What is the point of trudging through shit that you know you hate? some people just have a big ego like that, and a surefire way to attract attention to yourself. although some would claim that it's "killing the industry". but honestly people should read more manga if fanservice is that big of an issue. |
| Don't worry OP, it is only a small minority that tries to stigmatize normal people just for not liking sexual content in their entertainment. They just happen to be very vocal since forums like this allow them to parade their tastes all they want without judgement due to not having their identity attached. Don't let them bother you. Be the bigger man and allow them the privilege to act however they want since this is probably one of the few outlets where they can share these interests with similar individuals. |
KazuyaKiyoshiAug 12, 2016 6:24 PM
ahoyanen said: Onaiwa said: I am very much attracted to women. I just hate out of place sexual content in what I'm watching. If it does not add anything to the series, why is it there? I take it as the creators assuming I can be entertained by wiggling cartoon breasts in front of me as if they are keys in front of a baby and it is insulting. Everything in a series should have a purpose and you can't cover up your garbage story by drawing anime tiddies. It does add something to the series. Boobs add boobs to the series. I don't see why would be covering up whatever story with great dialogue be better than covering it up with great ecchi. Also, whether story is good or bad is completely subjective anyway so "cover up your garbage story" was a pointless statement to begin with. Oh, jeez. Here we go. Now I have to flip the "elitist" switch and explain to you how silly you sound. Your mentioning the subjectivity of my opinion in an attempt to discredit it is juvenile, at best, considering this is a thread about opinions. If you honestly believe any of these trash flavor of the season waifu shows have a worthwhile story, you're part of the problem with this community. Demand more from your series. Respect yourself. "Great ecchi" genuinely made me laugh out loud. I honestly can't figure out a way to respond to this without insulting you and everyone like you. It's like the last decade has birthed some weird breed of anime fan. A stereotypical, underdeveloped subhuman with limited social interaction and a passion for candy-colored, one-dimensional waifus to project onto. People who would rather watch softcore porn than a story with an engaging plot, emotion, characterization or anything else found in well-received media. Every interaction with someone like you lessens my love of anime, a bit more. |
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| I find it hard to grasp that this kind of discrimination is still prevalent, especially when talking about a highly-sexualized format like anime. I mean, the term "sex sells" has been applied to other media long before it did to anime. Yes fanservice can be annoying, but there's really no reason to put down others who like those kinds of things. Let them enjoy what they want, not everyone has similar tastes. |
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D-ohnuts said: If they're complaining about an ecchi show having fanservice, then yeah it is a dumb reason to complain, unless they're complaining about the nature of the fanservice (like say an underage character getting molested) which would be a valid complaint. It's definitely a valid complaint if it's an action show which isn't even tagged as ecchi yet still has fanservice. In practically every fight scene in Code Geass, we get closeups of Kallen's T&A. What's the point lmao. 1. WE, NOT JAPAN, decide what is labeled ecchi and what is not, so blame whoever decided Code geass isn't an "ecchi show" 2. an underage character getting molested in fiction is no worse than a fictional character being killed, its not real, so it doesn't harm anything 3. because many people like me have a fetish for sexy fighting and it makes the characters more attractive for us scruf4ls said: if browsing MAL for the past year has taught me anything, it's that you are in the majority OP, and the people who enjoy the sexual content in their animes have a stigma attached to them. yes, very few people argue in favor of sexual content in anime, although its not that there aren't many ppl who want to, its just that they are afraid to speak up or just don't want to argue... which is why i became known so fast scruf4ls said: but i guess that people feel that everything in an anime needs to relevant to the story, and i think that's the real issue lies. i'd have to agree this is the biggest issue... theres so many things in our lives that are meant for nothing other than pleasing purposes. why cant that apply to anime? the characters are already attractive, so why not take advantage of how attractive they already are by making them even more? i just can't believe that straight male for example, would be "turned off" because they saw a pair of titties fill the screen... it just doesn't make sense DESUDESUUU said: Yeah, I get that. But, as I said above, what's the point in engaging in a medium that barely caters for you? What is the point of trudging through shit that you know you hate? ive been asking this for a long time people KNOW anime is sexual.... many many non anime watchers think thats all anime is, so i don't believe ppl come into the medium thinking theyre not going to be seeing a pair of tits. so why come into the medium if you're just going to complain about what you know you're going to see? |
EcchiGodMamsterAug 12, 2016 9:06 PM
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Kagami said: @EcchiLordMamster - Yes. Why new fans who MUST know the medium goes against what caters to them or they are comfortable with decide to watch the medium are bizarre individuals. imagine: "i hear hip-hop is full of cuss words and catchy beats" *decides to start listening to hip-hop... but picks an underground, non mainstream rapper* *complains that they are using cuss words and catchy beasts* what did they expect? if you don't want to see cartoon boobs, don't watch anime... its not that hard |
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| Even tho this was said already... the people who like ecchii are the ones looked down on. They are in the same tier as Dub watchers in the anime hierarchy. |
| Some reason I don't like it. 1) Ecchi is not sex, but I still don't like it why? Cause like most girls, it isn't interesting and sometimes offending. 2) Do we except for them having sex after short time of dating? Cause people who look for long term relationships don't do so. 3) Rape is not an option for me. |
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Onaiwa said: ahoyanen said: It does add something to the series. Boobs add boobs to the series. I don't see why would be covering up whatever story with great dialogue be better than covering it up with great ecchi. Also, whether story is good or bad is completely subjective anyway so "cover up your garbage story" was a pointless statement to begin with. Oh, jeez. Here we go. Now I have to flip the "elitist" switch and explain to you how silly you sound. Your mentioning the subjectivity of my opinion in an attempt to discredit it is juvenile, at best, considering this is a thread about opinions. If you honestly believe any of these trash flavor of the season waifu shows have a worthwhile story, you're part of the problem with this community. Demand more from your series. Respect yourself. "Great ecchi" genuinely made me laugh out loud. I honestly can't figure out a way to respond to this without insulting you and everyone like you. It's like the last decade has birthed some weird breed of anime fan. A stereotypical, underdeveloped subhuman with limited social interaction and a passion for candy-colored, one-dimensional waifus to project onto. People who would rather watch softcore porn than a story with an engaging plot, emotion, characterization or anything else found in well-received media. Every interaction with someone like you lessens my love of anime, a bit more. Don't worry, you did not insult me. I may sound condescending but you cannot insult me even if you try your best. As for story, it is just a set of made-up events. Whether they make for an engaging plot, emotion and characterization is completely subjective and dependant on individual opinion. There is no objective measure for those properties. It is not like measurable properties of a physical object like length and weight where you have objectively defined measures, i.e. meters and kilograms, and you can objectively say this one is bigger/heavier than that one. You can check my list and you will see I don't even watch much ecchi anyway, let alone rate them well in comparison to my favourite genres. I am not trying to defend any particular genre here. I am simply schooling you about the basic facts of subjectivity/objectivity. |
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