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Jun 5, 2016 9:45 AM

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anime nowadays is usually just made to promote the light/visual novel and since sex always sells it's not hard to figure out why they include ecchi, especially when the main audiences are lonely, unpopular teenage boys


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[quote=Gabagool message=46338451] Anime is a business and will continue to be so until the end of time. Vote with your wallet. If you want more of something than support that and if you want less than don't support it. /quote]

that explains why there so much shoujo, yaoi, josei, reverse harem series

SEXISM SELLS
Jun 5, 2016 10:10 AM

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Zelkiiro said:
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but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality

You know damn well that ecchi is, 99.9% of the time, used to distract the viewer from realizing that the series has absolutely nothing to say and is a complete waste of your goddamn time. Shows like Phantom World and High School of the Dead know that they're creatively-bankrupt pieces of filth, and so they jiggle some boobs around like jiggling keys in a toddler's face, and the brainless ecchi fans of the world keep staring and drooling like the troglodytes they are.

The only series I've ever seen use ecchi in an interesting way is Kill la Kill. It had its jiggling-keys moments, but it used the subject of nudity to explore themes of human sexuality, freedom, and oppression in a way that wasn't just male-gaze-pandering bullshit.

As for all the other anime that rely on ecchi, worthless. All entirely worthless. If I want porn, I'll just go fucking watch some porn. The internet literally has all the porn ever. Why the fuck should I bother with this show-nothing Phantom World garbage when I have ALL THE PORN EVER at my fingertips?!


That's pretty much how I like ecchi being used as well. I most definitely advocate you to the Rosario + Vampire manga. It techinally has ecchi in it purely for fanservice but still has a nice plot to it so the ecchi isn't too distracting. It even gets better in the second season because there's barely any ecchi and it's very action-packed :)
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Jun 5, 2016 10:15 AM

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It's a market thing, so I'll blame japanese demand of anime if ecchi is on heavy production.


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but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality


Lol, this coming from the guy that says ecchi is a western thing.
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Jun 5, 2016 10:34 AM

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Of course. Studios produce what sells. There's no denying that fact.

With that said, ecchi haters have no right to complain about it. If you hate it so much, whining isn't going to do jackshit. Money is the language they speak, so do something if you want more of the shows you like instead of acting like prissy little brats.
Jun 5, 2016 10:52 AM

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Zelkiiro said:
As for all the other anime that rely on ecchi, worthless. All entirely worthless. If I want porn, I'll just go fucking watch some porn. The internet literally has all the porn ever. Why the fuck should I bother with this show-nothing Phantom World garbage when I have ALL THE PORN EVER at my fingertips?!

I don't understand why people make this argument, as if there's no room for a middle ground. "It should have no fanservice, or be porn!" Many people don't like the crassness of porn, and prefer milder forms of stimulation—a little service to supplement the visuals. These people aren't always looking for something to fap to.

And not all ecchi fans are "brainless troglodytes." I'm college educated, my favorite anime is Mushishi, and I thought Prison School and Highschool of the Dead were hilarious. I'm not so full of myself that I can't enjoy a show that's not meant to be taken seriously, and doesn't have any supposedly deep messages.
Jun 5, 2016 10:54 AM

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KoreaWS said:

Mamster-P said:
but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality


Lol, this coming from the guy that says ecchi is a western thing.


I'm sure he's only saying that the term ecchi used to describe fanservice-heavy/softcore porn anime is a western thing, not the style itself.

And what does that have to do with negative perceptions of sexuality anyway?
Jun 5, 2016 10:57 AM

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Seriously ppl on internet are weird and funny nowadays....so, if you don't like ecchi, don't watch it (simple as that)....support non-ecchi anime makers/creators with your fuckin' filthy wallet...and hope for a miracle.....but still, they will not do that....they will be pretentious little fucks who are afraid of some random animated boobs..... If u dislike ecchi so much, why did you bothered to watch it anyways?? Like for real, for example : I dislike Josei/Yaoi/Shounen Ai = I don't watch them (again, simple as that).... Cabel Knights & KO
Jun 5, 2016 10:59 AM

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Most anime are full of ecchi anyways, you might as well get rid of 90% of anime then. Lmao
Jun 5, 2016 11:33 AM
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KoreaWS said:
It's a market thing, so I'll blame japanese demand of anime if ecchi is on heavy production.


Mamster-P said:
but we gotta do something about this demonization of embracing sexuality


Lol, this coming from the guy that says ecchi is a western thing.


I didn't say ecchi is a western thing, in saying we decide what's ecchi

Japan does not have a label for shows wit lots of tits and ass

And fuck this paranoia of sexual content, it's fucking retarded

@Zelkiiro

Why should I even respond to your insane rambling? and no I don't fucking agree

I'm free to like w/e I want as are the rest of us ecchi fans, if u don't like it, go elsehere

Go watch porn and stop watching anime then, I like ecchi and u dont, deal with it
Jun 5, 2016 11:37 AM

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This thread is becoming pro-ecchi, looks like you've won this one @Mamster-P :3
Jun 5, 2016 11:38 AM

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Zefyris said:
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I don't see the problem here. If you don't like ecchi, then don't watch it. No need to blame anyone for loving ecchi. Besides, ecchi animes are decreasing. So, you have no right to complain.

Is it actually decreasing? Does someone have stats confirming this?

Dunno about u but I see less and less ecchi anime each season. Summer 2015 was a big boom for it tho.
I think we have like 3 titles this season and also 3 next season (correct me if in wrong but idgas tbh)
Jun 5, 2016 11:39 AM

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I blame the fucking bastard that created ecchi... why cant hentai be hentai and anime be... anime?
Jun 5, 2016 11:40 AM
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Lobinde said:
This thread is becoming pro-ecchi, looks like you've won this one @Mamster-P :3


I dun turned the ecchi fans into warriors lol

I got so tired of seeing ecchi hate all over the Internet and as a result I'm now active on MAL AD shutting these threads down loooolll
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Mamster-P said:
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This thread is becoming pro-ecchi, looks like you've won this one @Mamster-P :3


I dun turned the ecchi fans into warriors lol

I got so tired of seeing ecchi hate all over the Internet and as a result I'm now active on MAL AD shutting these threads down loooolll


Well yeah, I won't name names because I'm not a dick but there are lots of whiners in this community.

Instead of making anti-ecchi threads if you don't like ecchi, you should instead make threads for the stuff you DO like.
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Actually i think there are less Ecchi than like 5 years ago or so. I don't blame people for liking it, they have the right to enjoy what they want, but i think they could also help the good anime in the indutry. Not that Ecchi can't be good, some of them are good, but most of them are pieces of shit. It's all the anime creators' fault, they are the ones that make bad ecchi.

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Jun 5, 2016 11:46 AM
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Lobinde said:
Mamster-P said:


I dun turned the ecchi fans into warriors lol

I got so tired of seeing ecchi hate all over the Internet and as a result I'm now active on MAL AD shutting these threads down loooolll


Well yeah, I won't name names because I'm not a dick but there are lots of whiners in this community.

Instead of making anti-ecchi threads if you don't like ecchi, you should instead make threads for the stuff you DO like.


Ppl don't seen to realize that the best way to show you don't like something is to ignore it. If u can't do that I'm just gonna assume you're insecure and secretly love it

I don't know if this is a thing or not but I feel as if there's an increase in reverse harems... a genre i do not watch... I have not complained once nor will I ever, I just won't watch them... simple as that
Jun 5, 2016 11:47 AM

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Of course not! The have nothing to do with it. Heck, why do you think that more ecchis are being made? There aren't that many coming out this year. The studios are making ecchis because they want to. Don't blame ecchi watchers for this.
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Jun 5, 2016 11:52 AM
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caitlintheotaku said:
Of course not! The have nothing to do with it. Heck, why do you think that more ecchis are being made? The studios are making ecchis because they want to. Don't blame ecchi watchers for this.


Yes, ppl act as if ecchi is only a pandering tool.. it's like ppl don't realize how much the creators actually enjoy drawing sexy stuff

There's a reason most anime pic sites are 90% sexualized female characters
Jun 5, 2016 11:56 AM

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there is only 1 or 2 ecchi this summer
so stop talking like there is alot of them
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Jun 5, 2016 1:11 PM
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tragedydesu said:
there is only 1 or 2 ecchi this summer
so stop talking like there is alot of them


3/40 shows labeled ecchi a season

THIS IS ALL THEYRE MAKING!!!!

Ecchi hater logic 101
Jun 5, 2016 1:11 PM

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Zefyris said:
Zelkiiro said:

You know damn well that ecchi is, 99.9% of the time, used to distract the viewer from realizing that the series has absolutely nothing to say and is a complete waste of your goddamn time.

This. So much YES to this. Wouldn't go as far as 99,9% for a number but most of the case it's just this. They're using stuff like that to prevent most viewers to realize how bad is everything else. Why users are busy with looking at flashing boobs and pantsies and erotic poses and whatever they're not thinking too hard about how much the plot doesn't make sense~.

You know what? My ecchi / slice of life / romantic comedy / fighting / whatever anime doesn't need plot. It doesn't need a propaganda message forced in. It doesn't need airtight writing.
If you can't enjoy an anime while it lasts - you're doing it wrong. It has cool fights (from grand strategy to cooking contests), funny jokes, naked girls, heart-warming mood or whatever, so enjoy it.
Whatever semblance of plot an anime has - it's only a vehicle to deliver some more of the good stuff. Whatever message a show contains - it's the author's personal beliefs reflecting on their work.
And that's the way it should be. I don't want to watch only unenjoyable shows that tell me propaganda - I had enough of this stuff on literature lessons at school. I have no time for shows that spend 2 seasons just establishing things before the MC can finally go out and kick some ass - get to the good part already.

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I've never seen phantom world so I won't address it in anything I say, but the "pointless boob jiggle" really isn't affecting anime fans who aren't into that genre.

Phantom World has some memorable breasts, but that doesn't mean it didn't have anything else. Heartwarming stories and friendship (surprisingly, Phantom World isn't about romance at all), bravery and flashy fights, comedy and anime culture refeernces - all the nice things to keep you happy.
People who cannot appreciate all the non-breast stuff that I said about annoy me immensely. Either they're living a happier life than me (in which case it's jealousy), or they're evil bastards who have neither heart nor warrior spirit.
People who cannot see all the non-breast stuff because they're too busy looking at breasts are either hypocrites (who like watching breasts way too much), or prudes (whom I hate on principle).

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I dont mind, it atleast makes a horrendous story somewhat enjoyable, its not just snoozefest...
Imagine Testament without the ecchi stuff lol....
Like...no <.<

They'll have to add something else, sure. Probably jokes. Because the authors aren't good enough at battle scenes to make the whole show work on just battle scenes.

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Ecchi anime is the reason for all my problems, if it wasn't for ecchi anime I would have made better choices in my life.

There are no good choices in life. Being born was a mistake.

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Zelkiiro said:
As for all the other anime that rely on ecchi, worthless. All entirely worthless. If I want porn, I'll just go fucking watch some porn. The internet literally has all the porn ever. Why the fuck should I bother with this show-nothing Phantom World garbage when I have ALL THE PORN EVER at my fingertips?!

I don't understand why people make this argument, as if there's no room for a middle ground. "It should have no fanservice, or be porn!" Many people don't like the crassness of porn, and prefer milder forms of stimulation—a little service to supplement the visuals. These people aren't always looking for something to fap to.

This. So much this.
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flannan said:
Whatever semblance of plot an anime has - it's only a vehicle to deliver some more of the good stuff. Whatever message a show contains - it's the author's personal beliefs reflecting on their work.
And that's the way it should be. I don't want to watch only unenjoyable shows that tell me propaganda - I had enough of this stuff on literature lessons at school. I have no time for shows that spend 2 seasons just establishing things before the MC can finally go out and kick some ass - get to the good part already.

You are literally the worst kind of consumer. You don't want to think about anything--you just want pretty pictures to distract you from the shithole your life has become. You don't want any meaningful insight into the human condition or more elaborate depictions of interpersonal relationships--you want softcore porn set to flashing images of meaningless drivel. You are an intellectual toddler, giggling and cooing at the bright colors and jumbled noises masquerading as entertainment.

THE. NARRATIVE. IS. PARAMOUNT. IN. ANY. MEDIUM.

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Absolutely

Why can't they just stop having shit taste?
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Comic_Sans said:
Absolutely

Why can't they just stop having shit taste?




Look who's talking lol, Norwegian/Swedish propaganda lover
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Zelkiiro said:
flannan said:
Whatever semblance of plot an anime has - it's only a vehicle to deliver some more of the good stuff. Whatever message a show contains - it's the author's personal beliefs reflecting on their work.
And that's the way it should be. I don't want to watch only unenjoyable shows that tell me propaganda - I had enough of this stuff on literature lessons at school. I have no time for shows that spend 2 seasons just establishing things before the MC can finally go out and kick some ass - get to the good part already.

You are literally the worst kind of consumer. You don't want to think about anything--you just want pretty pictures to distract you from the shithole your life has become. You don't want any meaningful insight into the human condition or more elaborate depictions of interpersonal relationships--you want softcore porn set to flashing images of meaningless drivel. You are an intellectual toddler, giggling and cooing at the bright colors and jumbled noises masquerading as entertainment.

THE. NARRATIVE. IS. PARAMOUNT. IN. ANY. MEDIUM.


So what, every anime always has to be intellectual and have a deep and riveting narrative? Seeing the world in simple black and white, opposite extremes, is an incredibly limiting stance to take.

There are days where people want to sit down and just watch some tits and ass and have a laugh. That's what we have anime like To Love Ru for. And then there are days where we want to sit down and think of deeper themes. That's where anime like Ghost in the Shell come in.

And then there's a plethora of shows inbetween where you get a little of both, because going from extreme to polar extreme is a silly thing to force oneself to do. Therein lies the brilliant part of any medium - you can have any story, for any setting, plot, premise and appease your viewers in a myriad of ways. Whether you have a coherent narrative, filled with allegories, symbolism and other literature devices, or you go with the aesthetic side of things, be it tits n' ass, sakuga-filled fighting scenes and the like, there's something for everyone.

Someone is not a bad consumer just because they like something different to you. What's wrong with wanting entertainment in an entertainment medium? If I've had a shit day at work, coming home and watching Flying Witch or Non Non Biyori is fuckin' brilliant, because they're like panaceas of the mind. The notion that one form of entertainmnt is inherently better or worse than another is ridiculous. You can utilise anything in any way in order to make a point or provide enjoyment. By not being a narrow-minded cunt, you get to enjoy everything the medium has to offer.
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Zelkiiro said:
flannan said:
Whatever semblance of plot an anime has - it's only a vehicle to deliver some more of the good stuff. Whatever message a show contains - it's the author's personal beliefs reflecting on their work.
And that's the way it should be. I don't want to watch only unenjoyable shows that tell me propaganda - I had enough of this stuff on literature lessons at school. I have no time for shows that spend 2 seasons just establishing things before the MC can finally go out and kick some ass - get to the good part already.

You are literally the worst kind of consumer. You don't want to think about anything--you just want pretty pictures to distract you from the shithole your life has become. You don't want any meaningful insight into the human condition or more elaborate depictions of interpersonal relationships--you want softcore porn set to flashing images of meaningless drivel. You are an intellectual toddler, giggling and cooing at the bright colors and jumbled noises masquerading as entertainment.

THE. NARRATIVE. IS. PARAMOUNT. IN. ANY. MEDIUM.

1) There is no insight to be gained though writing stuff. Only the author's personal prejudice and misunderstanding.
Only though science can we get any reliable understanding. And science doesn't have any good insight into human condition or interpersonal relationships yet. So anything you think about other humans is prejudice.
Remember: most authors aren't qualified in anything. The best ones know about a thing or two outside writing, and/or do their research, but remain ignorant outside these specific things.
Yes, this is really my position, and not something I thought up for the sake of the argument.

2) Paintings don't need soundtrack or timeline. Poetry has no need for graphics. Slice of life anime has no need for plot.
Isn't it obvious?

3) Are you just pushing your own preferences on others? What do you understand about me?
I like clever jokes, not dumb jokes. I like it when the MC prevails though clever schemes. I enjoyed speculating about the 7th in Rokka no Yuusha just like everybody else. I like it when the author knows about something and doesn't hesitate to tell it.
My capacity for understanding is good enough that I immediately see how wrong people critiquing SAO are - there are very few valid criticisms to be made about it. I know about writing stories, I run tRPGs, I have read tvtropes, I have seen hundreds of anime... Where you see plot holes and inconsistences that "ruin" anime, I see clever solutions, inevitable minor mistakes, and author's personal bias getting in the way.
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i think it's really really stupidly childish to blame ecchi watcher just because there are many ecchi anime. the one who blame ecchi watchers are just being selfish. especially the one who are arguementing about ecchi between ecchi haters and ecchi watchers. it's just pointless. so can people please watch anime on their own without complaining any bullshit, pointless, and unnecessary thing moreover it makes people mad especially ecchi watchers and it would made a bad arguement in the forum. type of people like that is almost like a people who is one of illuminati members/ new world order supporter. always brings bad arguement here and there.
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-Maz said:
Zelkiiro said:

You are literally the worst kind of consumer. You don't want to think about anything--you just want pretty pictures to distract you from the shithole your life has become. You don't want any meaningful insight into the human condition or more elaborate depictions of interpersonal relationships--you want softcore porn set to flashing images of meaningless drivel. You are an intellectual toddler, giggling and cooing at the bright colors and jumbled noises masquerading as entertainment.

THE. NARRATIVE. IS. PARAMOUNT. IN. ANY. MEDIUM.


So what, every anime always has to be intellectual and have a deep and riveting narrative? Seeing the world in simple black and white, opposite extremes, is an incredibly limiting stance to take.

There are days where people want to sit down and just watch some tits and ass and have a laugh. That's what we have anime like To Love Ru for. And then there are days where we want to sit down and think of deeper themes. That's where anime like Ghost in the Shell come in.

And then there's a plethora of shows inbetween where you get a little of both, because going from extreme to polar extreme is a silly thing to force oneself to do. Therein lies the brilliant part of any medium - you can have any story, for any setting, plot, premise and appease your viewers in a myriad of ways. Whether you have a coherent narrative, filled with allegories, symbolism and other literature devices, or you go with the aesthetic side of things, be it tits n' ass, sakuga-filled fighting scenes and the like, there's something for everyone.

Someone is not a bad consumer just because they like something different to you. What's wrong with wanting entertainment in an entertainment medium? If I've had a shit day at work, coming home and watching Flying Witch or Non Non Biyori is fuckin' brilliant, because they're like panaceas of the mind. The notion that one form of entertainmnt is inherently better or worse than another is ridiculous. You can utilise anything in any way in order to make a point or provide enjoyment. By not being a narrow-minded cunt, you get to enjoy everything the medium has to offer.

I don't care that there are many genres--what pisses me off is when people hold up a piece of garbage from any genre (e.g. Sword Art Online, Erased, Another, Elfen Lied) and claim that they're good when they are clearly not, and there are much, much better alternatives for each of them just lying around, waiting to be seen. But nope! Just because they have the visage of good animation and the illusion of stylish art, they pollute the anime environment and trick gullible viewers into thinking they're good. And anime that rely on ecchi as a crutch are the worst offenders.

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Zelkiiro said:

I don't care that there are many genres--what pisses me off is when people hold up a piece of garbage from any genre (e.g. Sword Art Online, Erased, Another, Elfen Lied) and claim that they're good when they are clearly not, and there are much, much better alternatives for each of them just lying around, waiting to be seen. But nope! Just because they have the visage of good animation and the illusion of stylish art, they pollute the anime environment and trick gullible viewers into thinking they're good. And anime that rely on ecchi as a crutch are the worst offenders.


Sure, I don't disagree with you there. I always prefer those who can recognise the difference between "I liked this" and "this is good" with the opposite obviously being true as well. But oftentimes it's nothing more than a reflection of how seriously they take the medium. If they just watch a couple of shows here and there, it stands to reason they're not going to want to spend all their time critiquing every aspect of what they do watch. They will especially not have the time to do some digging and find the diamonds-in-the-rough for each genre. One thing all the anime you mentioned have in common is that they're vastly different to one another and at least one aspect of them stands out completely from the rest. SAO's a trapped-in-a-game, Elfen Lied is gory, Another had a semi-decent mystery going for the first handful of episodes before devolving into Final Destination on steroids. This will of course attract people to them because they each have a stand-out point. It's only natural that people will flock to them.

As for the ecchi part - I think that any story that has to lean on a crutch is pretty bad. I don't see the point in specifically pointing out sexual content as being the worst, because it's the crutch aspect of it that's bad, not the sexual content itself. One of the main criticisms levied at Another and Elfen Lied are that they're just gorefests with nothing else going for them. EL had sexual content too that was tacked in, but I disliked that aspect of it just as much as I disliked the overuse of blood and gore. Crutches are bad, no matter what actually makes up the crutch.

This just brings me back to the recurring theme of this thread - people specifically hate on sexual content / ecchi and the like moreso than any other type of content, for no conceivable reason. If something is used in a poor manner, then that is the reason the content is bad. Tis a good ol' depends on the execution answer, but many people would seemingly have us believe sexual content is automatically bad; a stance which I can't for the life of me figure out.
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Zelkiiro said:


THE. NARRATIVE. IS. PARAMOUNT. IN. ANY. MEDIUM.


Not videogames. Just saying that narrative is the only thing that's important is doing mediums such as animation and videogames a serious disservice. Yes, you can tell good stories with this media, but you can do so much more than just tell a story.
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Konte said:
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Absolutely

Why can't they just stop having shit taste?




Look who's talking lol, Norwegian/Swedish propaganda lover
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BD disks of ecchi anime series sell well in Japan -> they make more ecchi anime
they don't care nearly as much (if at all) if people in the west like or hate ecchi shows, since most of the people in the west don't buy the bd disks anyway.
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No I blame they ecchi haters for not buying anything XD
Almost all mature shows don't sell and then they keep blaming ecchi and moe for it, it's hilarious.
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Mamster-P said:
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This thread is becoming pro-ecchi, looks like you've won this one @Mamster-P :3


I dun turned the ecchi fans into warriors lol

I got so tired of seeing ecchi hate all over the Internet and as a result I'm now active on MAL AD shutting these threads down loooolll


Implying ecchi warriors are reasonable.

ichii_1 said:
No I blame they ecchi haters for not buying anything XD
Almost all mature shows don't sell and then they keep blaming ecchi and moe for it, it's hilarious.


Implying the audience has the same size.
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lol

American accent put into written words.
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Sex sells. It's as simple as that IMO.
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KoreaWS said:
Mamster-P said:


I dun turned the ecchi fans into warriors lol

I got so tired of seeing ecchi hate all over the Internet and as a result I'm now active on MAL AD shutting these threads down loooolll


Implying ecchi warriors are reasonable.

ichii_1 said:
No I blame they ecchi haters for not buying anything XD
Almost all mature shows don't sell and then they keep blaming ecchi and moe for it, it's hilarious.


Implying the audience has the same size.


were not reasonable? were not the ones whining about anime, were taking whats being given and enjoying it

and i think admitting you're into that ecchi/moe/loli is as honest as you can be when it comes to anime fandom, since its what everyone wants to complain about non stop



@Zelkiiro

damn man, i thought i was whiny xD

im having a hard time not believing you're a troll.... lol


elitism at its finest lol
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lol

American accent put into written words.


That was intentional I assure you c:
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Mamster-P said:

were not reasonable? were not the ones whining about anime, were taking whats being given and enjoying it



Of course not. You're beign as unreasonable as them, if not worst, because you can't just simply let them hate the anime. Instead, you come and hate them, as if their opinion mattered to you.

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and i think admitting you're into that ecchi/moe/loli is as honest as you can be when it comes to anime fandom, since its what everyone wants to complain about non stop


Well that's cringe as fuck : "Hey, look at me, I like ecchi/moe/lolis. Praise me! Praise me more! Respect me for my weird taste because I'm honest!"


Don't take it personal.
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Lobinde said:
This thread is becoming pro-ecchi, looks like you've won this one @Mamster-P :3


Don't know about others, but seeing the same individuals on every ecchi thread repeating the exact same shit has made me not even want to post.

Let it turn into another circle jerk, it's what MAL deserves.
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Wensbane said:
Lobinde said:
This thread is becoming pro-ecchi, looks like you've won this one @Mamster-P :3


Don't know about others, but seeing the same individuals on every ecchi thread repeating the exact same shit has made me not even want to post.

Let it turn into another circle jerk, it's what MAL deserves.


Oh I'm not trying to turn this into a circle jerk, it's just that I find it funny how the tides of these such threads change from being almost entirely anti-ecchi to pro-ecchi multiple times a day.

I don't think mutual understanding is really possible through discussion topics like this, I'm just here for entertainment.
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Lobinde said:
Wensbane said:


Don't know about others, but seeing the same individuals on every ecchi thread repeating the exact same shit has made me not even want to post.

Let it turn into another circle jerk, it's what MAL deserves.


Oh I'm not trying to turn this into a circle jerk, it's just that I find it funny how the tides of these such threads change from being almost entirely anti-ecchi to pro-ecchi multiple times a day.

I don't think mutual understanding is really possible through discussion topics like this, I'm just here for entertainment.


Now that I can understand.

They've won this one from the get-go anyway, because ecchi lovers actually buy stuff. Those dakimakuras aren't gonna fuck themselves...

Can't really blame an industry for, you know, trying to make some money.
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Of course not. You're beign as unreasonable as them, if not worst, because you can't just simply let them hate the anime. Instead, you come and hate them, as if their opinion mattered to you.


im sorry for getting tired of seeing people bash things i like in anime everywhere i go anime related, you know it might get annoying after the 4356437256753654366526543654643th time ive seen it

i mean i literally can't go anywhere and not see ppl jumping on the ecchi hate train more so than many other things combined

make sense?

KoreaWS said:

Well that's cringe as fuck : "Hey, look at me, I like ecchi/moe/lolis. Praise me! Praise me more! Respect me for my weird taste because I'm honest!"

Don't take it personal.


now this is just bait.....

its not about attention, its about being yourself and being happy with it despite what others may think
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Mamster-P said:
KoreaWS said:


Of course not. You're beign as unreasonable as them, if not worst, because you can't just simply let them hate the anime. Instead, you come and hate them, as if their opinion mattered to you.


im sorry for getting tired of seeing people bash things i like in anime everywhere i go anime related, you know it might get annoying after the 4356437256753654366526543654643th time ive seen it

i mean i literally can't go anywhere and not see ppl jumping on the ecchi hate train more so than many other things combined

make sense?


No. That's just hitting a wall, especially which such angry way of ranting.

KoreaWS said:

Well that's cringe as fuck : "Hey, look at me, I like ecchi/moe/lolis. Praise me! Praise me more! Respect me for my weird taste because I'm honest!"

Don't take it personal.


its not about attention, its about being yourself and being happy with it despite what others may think


Well, you still draw attention, isn't it? Why would you intentionally jump into these threads if not, besides your honorable (I'm not trolling here) attempt to make people understand different tastes, to call attention to your taste and how it has good things?

You certainly take it too personal despite of what others think.
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why would i blame myself?

I enjoy ecchi and hentai....
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KoreaWS said:
Mamster-P said:


im sorry for getting tired of seeing people bash things i like in anime everywhere i go anime related, you know it might get annoying after the 4356437256753654366526543654643th time ive seen it

i mean i literally can't go anywhere and not see ppl jumping on the ecchi hate train more so than many other things combined

make sense?


No. That's just hitting a wall, especially which such angry way of ranting.



its not about attention, its about being yourself and being happy with it despite what others may think


Well, you still draw attention, isn't it? Why would you intentionally jump into these threads if not, besides your honorable (I'm not trolling here) attempt to make people understand different tastes, to call attention to your taste and how it has good things?

You certainly take it too personal despite of what others think.


Well yes, Mamster is taking this too personally I think but when some of the people in these threads, such as zelkiiro's little tirade against flannan are outright dishing out unprovoked insults towards the viewers of ecchi anime, can you really blame them?

It's one thing to dislike ecchi anime and consider it a negative insult to the industry, if you can back it up with reasoning it's fair game (but I will still debate those points, for the purposes of discussion), but when you are insulting a demographic to affirm a "holier than thou" attitude, that is extremely immature, childish, and an indicator that you are taking the topic too personally, ironically enough.
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Lobinde said:
KoreaWS said:


No. That's just hitting a wall, especially which such angry way of ranting.



Well, you still draw attention, isn't it? Why would you intentionally jump into these threads if not, besides your honorable (I'm not trolling here) attempt to make people understand different tastes, to call attention to your taste and how it has good things?

You certainly take it too personal despite of what others think.


Well yes, Mamster is taking this too personally I think but when some of the people in these threads, such as zelkiiro's little tirade against flannan are outright dishing out unprovoked insults towards the viewers of ecchi anime, can you really blame them?

It's one thing to dislike ecchi anime and consider it a negative insult to the industry, if you can back it up with reasoning it's fair game (but I will still debate those points, for the purposes of discussion), but when you are insulting a demographic to affirm a "holier than thou" attitude, that is extremely immature, childish, and an indicator that you are taking the topic too personally, ironically enough.


We will never get along if we don't tolerate other people taste

...I wish I had the ground to say that. I'm far from beign one that has the right to say that. I have like one or two months here and I've already traded insults with most regulars. I swear I have this image of "yet another elitist".

So on the topic, I can still blame them for lowering to the insult fest. Somebody can have a defined taste yet still gets mad because people say SAO, one of his fav shows, is shit, for example. I'm not saying it's wrong to reply back when someone says your show is shit, but getting mad for chinese cartoons is maybe a waste of internet bytes in the end.

And now I get called hypocritical.
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I guess while IRL Student-Teacher relations are OK, anime is once again, pure, clean cut degeneracy.
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