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Damn, this fight really dragging. Hisoka taking a loss at his leg as well...

Not dead yet but another cliffhanger. I have a feeling he might use another ability or something to save himself. Who knows.
Jun 2, 2016 4:41 AM
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Hisoka lost a leg, and I wonder if it's gonna get even more complex from here on out.


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MikasaJun 2, 2016 4:58 AM
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Jun 2, 2016 4:52 AM
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it seems to be over, next chapter will be the conclusion

i was rooting for Chrollo even though Hisoka was one of my favorite characters Chrollo just showing hes a methodical and systematic stone cold killer through and through

i really thought Hisoka would be floating around until the end of the series, i mean he could live but i just cant see anyway out
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Jun 2, 2016 4:59 AM
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yep raws are out btw, Hisoka lost a feet too lol those zombies can also use the sun and moon bombing technique
Jun 2, 2016 5:55 AM
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hisoka is probably dead with the last explosion
Jun 2, 2016 6:28 AM
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Hisoka's gonna launch a last suicide attack,as I expected both will die.
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bye bye Hisoka, and some people said this chapter is released on Hisoka's birthday too
Jun 2, 2016 6:35 AM
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Nay, Hisoka will survive. He"s too stubborn to die and I don"t think Togashi have the guts to piss fans of by killing him of this way. I mean he"s like a main character to the series and all that...
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Jun 2, 2016 6:41 AM

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"Well I guess... If I'm gonna... die anyway... that I might as well go Super Saiyan!" xD
Jun 2, 2016 6:42 AM

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Didn't see that coming!
Can't wait to see what Hisoka will do. Not sure if he will die. I believe Togashi won't kill any of them, at least for now.
Chrollo is really controlling the match. Hisoka could probably show us something that we've never seen, if he wants to have a chance.
Jun 2, 2016 6:43 AM

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Stark700 said:

Damn, this fight really dragging. Hisoka taking a loss at his leg as well...


Dragging? Really? C'mon now. It's only been like 3-4 chapters. That hardly qualifies as "dragging."
Jun 2, 2016 6:48 AM

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Stark700 said:

Damn, this fight really dragging. Hisoka taking a loss at his leg as well...


Dragging? Really? C'mon now. It's only been like 3-4 chapters. That hardly qualifies as "dragging."


Different perspectives, not many people are able to keep up with the powers, so they're reading through something alien. I can understand them being overwhelmed.
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Jun 2, 2016 6:50 AM

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Damn. RIP Hisoka, your schwing going to be missed. :(
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Damn Hisoka just lost a foot and went "oh well" what a Boss. Now that he got blown up wonder how this'll go.

Anyway hiatus incoming. Togashi always starts to scribble more right b4 hiatuss
Jun 2, 2016 6:51 AM

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VK11 said:
Stark700 said:

Damn, this fight really dragging. Hisoka taking a loss at his leg as well...


Dragging? Really? C'mon now. It's only been like 3-4 chapters. That hardly qualifies as "dragging."

It's been more than 100 pages/5 chapters for the fight. This being the 6th chapter.

It's dragging. More than half of it is just setup and explanations for Chrollo's power. Only significant thing to move it along was the last page of last chapter and this chapter.
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Mikasa said:
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Dragging? Really? C'mon now. It's only been like 3-4 chapters. That hardly qualifies as "dragging."


Different perspectives, not many people are able to keep up with the powers, so they're reading through something alien. I can understand them being overwhelmed.


This is why you go back and reread chapters.
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MangaKing said:
Mikasa said:


Different perspectives, not many people are able to keep up with the powers, so they're reading through something alien. I can understand them being overwhelmed.


This is why you go back and reread chapters.


No time, and it might not help them. I mean I'm pretty sure many here have no idea what happened during the DC build-up and decided to skip it altogether, may not be surprised if they did the same with this fight.
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VK11 said:


Dragging? Really? C'mon now. It's only been like 3-4 chapters. That hardly qualifies as "dragging."

It's been more than 100 pages/5 chapters for the fight. This being the 6th chapter.

It's dragging. More than half of it is just setup and explanations for Chrollo's power. Only significant thing to move it along was the last page of last chapter and this chapter.


People need to read Dressrosa Arc in OP to see what dragging really is
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Mikasa said:
MangaKing said:


This is why you go back and reread chapters.


No time, and it might not help them. I mean I'm pretty sure many here have no idea what happened during the DC build-up and decided to skip it altogether, may not be surprised if they did the same with this fight.


then they have no rights to complain
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No time, and it might not help them. I mean I'm pretty sure many here have no idea what happened during the DC build-up and decided to skip it altogether, may not be surprised if they did the same with this fight.


then they have no rights to complain


They do. Each fan has his own expectation of the fight, and some don't like how this fight being psychological or bizarre and prefer a more direct face-to-face brawl.
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Mikasa said:
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then they have no rights to complain


They do. Each fan has his own expectation of the fight, and some don't like how this fight being psychological or bizarre and prefer a more direct face-to-face brawl.


face to face would be too incoherent, Chrollo would get destroyed
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Why do these badass HxH characters never show sighs of.... fear? Like the same happened with Netero as he died fighting Meruem. Chrollo as Kurapika threatened to kill him. Why? Why are these characters so fucking badass? Awesome chapter, even though I think this chapter would only take 2 minutes in the anime lol and same could be said about all the chapters except the one where Chrollo explained all of his abilities. If we have 2 more chapters of this fight, This might surpass Netero vs. Meruem in length in the animu.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what Hisoka meant by "If I'm going to die anyway.." Does he have something up his sleeve? I mean he has to but I wonder what it is. Hopefully Togashi does 100+ chapters and completes Dark Continent as well one more arc, I can dream right? XD
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well shit can he be bold enough to kill hisoka,i think he can,but not like this ,get him to the island damn it and wrap everything there
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Why do these badass HxH characters never show sighs of.... fear? Like the same happened with Netero as he died fighting Meruem. Chrollo as Kurapika threatened to kill him. Why? Why are these characters so fucking badass? Awesome chapter, even though I think this chapter would only take 2 minutes in the anime lol and same could be said about all the chapters except the one where Chrollo explained all of his abilities. If we have 2 more chapters of this fight, This might surpass Netero vs. Meruem in length in the animu.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what Hisoka meant by "If I'm going to die anyway.." Does he have something up his sleeve? I mean he has to but I wonder what it is. Hopefully Togashi does 100+ chapters and completes Dark Continent as well one more arc, I can dream right? XD



It's the opposite, I find it humanizing, that they do show fear, and pain, or shock, maybe not a fear of death itself, but you can see Hisoka's shocked face through the chapters, and when he's in pain, and also when he fought Kastro, his expression was at a point grim.



Whayle said:
Mikasa said:


They do. Each fan has his own expectation of the fight, and some don't like how this fight being psychological or bizarre and prefer a more direct face-to-face brawl.
Mikasa said:


They do. Each fan has his own expectation of the fight, and some don't like how this fight being psychological or bizarre and prefer a more direct face-to-face brawl.


face to face would be too incoherent, Chrollo would get destroyed


Yes but if they follow another manga format, like a shonen, they could both be blowing powers at each other before one of them falls. Some people find that more exciting.

Hisoka is only physically superior, but we don't know, maybe Chrollo's martial art skills are better, and so far he as a better arsenal of offensive nen powers.
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Jun 2, 2016 7:26 AM

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wow what an epic chapter one of my favorite hxh chapters so far
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He's gonna try and drag Chrollo into the explosion with some secret bungee gum he layed next to/on him in a last dying effort isn't he.... I hope that's not the case.
I was on Team Chrollo because he was the underdog and everyone was rooting for Hisoka in this fight but now I kinda feel bad for the clown.
I think Chrollo will end up sparing him somehow.
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Mikasa said:
It's the opposite, I find it humanizing, that they do show fear, and pain, or shock, maybe not a fear of death itself, but you can see Hisoka's shocked face through the chapters, and when he's in pain, and also when he fought Kastro, his expression was at a point grim.
Of course they do! I meant as in they don't show it too much, or even if they do it's in a way that they still don't lose their cool. I still remember that face Netero made when he first released Zero Hand didn't do shit to Meruem lol HxH's characters are one of the most realistic, well-written and well-developed characters.
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Jun 2, 2016 7:34 AM
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lost his left hand and his right leg , i'v never seen Hisoka so cornered , judging by the last page of the chapter it seem like he is gonna try one last suicide attack probably by using bungee gum to attach a lot of puppet with him at center and try to move himself as close a he can to Chrollo in order to catch him in the explosion .
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Mikasa said:
Whayle said:


then they have no rights to complain


They do. Each fan has his own expectation of the fight, and some don't like how this fight being psychological or bizarre and prefer a more direct face-to-face brawl.


If fans don't like this fight for it being psychological then I wonder how they even made it this far to begin with. Also, no one should be surprised since Chrollo isn't a very direct fighter.

stickermans50 said:
Why do these badass HxH characters never show sighs of.... fear? Like the same happened with Netero as he died fighting Meruem. Chrollo as Kurapika threatened to kill him. Why? Why are these characters so fucking badass? Awesome chapter, even though I think this chapter would only take 2 minutes in the anime lol and same could be said about all the chapters except the one where Chrollo explained all of his abilities. If we have 2 more chapters of this fight, This might surpass Netero vs. Meruem in length in the animu.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what Hisoka meant by "If I'm going to die anyway.." Does he have something up his sleeve? I mean he has to but I wonder what it is. Hopefully Togashi does 100+ chapters and completes Dark Continent as well one more arc, I can dream right? XD


Because they're hunters.
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He's gonna try and drag Chrollo into the explosion with some secret bungee gum he layed next to/on him in a last dying effort isn't he.... I hope that's not the case.
I was on Team Chrollo because he was the underdog and everyone was rooting for Hisoka in this fight but now I kinda feel bad for the clown.
I think Chrollo will end up sparing him somehow.


Is there any reason new Chrollo isn't another disguised puppet?


Hisoka's possible tricks:

1) Bungie gum between a plus and a minus seal, being able to detonate a bomb by himself
2) Using texture surprise to manipulate how the seals look, maybe change a plus and a minus, where Chrollo thinks those puppets are safe because both have the same apparent sign, when they don't, and he uses Bungie Gum to set them off.
3) Far-fetched, but Hisoka has one antenna, he could attach it to a puppet, and erase the puppet's stamp via Texture Surprise, making Chrollo try controlling the puppet via Black Voice.


Whatever it is, the two seal powers seem like the very thing Texture Surprise would be able to take care of.
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Because they're hunters.
Lol. Agreed, Chrollo isn't a Hunter though.. I don't think so.
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great chapter.
chrollo: "style is important in a game, right. more than the outcome"
Chrollo is so badass and cold he's not even sweating

Chrollo: "all abilities have strenghts and weaknesses. people compensate by getting creative. they may keep their abilities secret.... or pick their battles carefully and fight as a team for example. In adition I can accrue more abilities as I need them. and then I wait until the conditions for a sure victory... can be met...."

this fight is pretty interesting.
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Gintama: "The blade is not to cut down your enemies
Nor is it to cut away your own weakness
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Togashi usually has a way of surprising us, so maybe this won't be the end for Hisoka after all? But it's not looking good.
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I think Hisoka is dead for sure. He admitted this himself, and I can't see Chrollo sparing him, seeing as to how the entire reason Chrollo took this fight was to get Hisoka off his back.

Seems like Hisoka has a plan, though. Based on his statement, "Well, if I'm gonna die anyway..." it must be a suicide attack. In other words, it's something that would kill him even if the puppets don't kill him with their explosions.
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Damn good chapter, my man Chrollo isn't disappointing. I can't wait for the next chapter!
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Couple of replies towards other comments in the thread:

1- I'm absolutely loving this fight. It's a breath of fresh air to not have to see the typical fight scene in a big time shonen (thinking of bleach and naruto), where the same formula is used over and over again leading to repetitive, mundane battles that are utterly predictable and without sense ( ok I'm exaggerating, I love me some brawls too :)

*Bad uses move*
*Good guy uses move*
*one of them is at a disadvantage and unleashes a transformation or technique that puts them on top*
*with unleashed new technique/transformation, beats on opponent*
*at last minute opponent unleashes a new transformation/move, which puts them on top*
Rinse and repeat... (at least for Bleach any ways)

Don't get me wrong; I like a good ol' fashioned straight up brawl as much as the next person, but I would have been disappointed if this fight was only a brawl, with Chrollo spamming random moves from the book with no rhyme or reason.

What we're seeing here is a battle between two of the most cunning characters in the series, with Chrollo having layers and layers to his strategy, combining acquired moves in an ingenious way, and playing head games with Hisoka. From Hisoka's PoV, we see a fighting genius with fantastic analytical capabilities in battle.

I do understand that reading through these chapters can be a bit of a pain, and the strategy does involve combining several abilities in a very complex way (it is confusing), but once you get through it, it's really one of the most well thought-out fights I've seen in a manga. I really hope to see it animated some day.
Though I completely understand some people being a bit turned off bit; it's understandable.


2- I'm not quite sure that Chrollo would lose 1v1 to Hisoka in a space with no other people. Just because Chrollo chose to fight this way here, doesn't necessarily mean he HAD to do so. It's quite possible that he wanted to break Hisoka down psychologically, beat him, and watch him fail miserably in the face of his strategy; it wouldn't surprise me.

Remember that Chrollo willingly engaged in a 1v2 battle in an enclosed room with two members of the Zoldyck family. Not only that, but he went into the battle holding back in order to STEAL their powers. Although he had no prior knowledge of Zeno, he had confronted Silva before, so he knew they would be no walk in the park.
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Also, it's no surprise that the characters we're talking about don't display fear or terror; we're not only talking about any regular hunters, we're talking about the top of the top. They are in their positions for a reason.
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Yeah, anyone who is afraid of death/pain in battle would never have reached the upper echelons of nen users to begin with. They would've quit years ago (e.g. the people who quit at various stages of the hunter exam), or been killed due to the fact that their strategies were hampered by fear (e.g. Killua had to remove the needle from his head to continue to improve as a fighter).

Also, in terms of Hisoka's suicide attack, I think two things are important...

1) Hisoka tore the head off of a puppet, and Togashi took special care to keep drawing the head attached to Hisoka's right hand.
2) Chrollo finally revealed himself (probably thinking the fight is completely over), and Hisoka saw him.

Based on this evidence, I think it's likely that Hisoka is going to attack Chrollo using the head somehow. If I had to guess, though, I'd say the attack won't kill Chrollo, because killing both of these characters is a total waste. It could be somewhere in between scaring Chrollo into thinking he might die, or permanently scarring Chrollo.
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Really good fight.
Hisoka should have one last trick before the end.
Chrollo is impressive, and he only used a few of his abilities.
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definitely one of the most intense chapters of this fight
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Hopefully next week is the last chapter for this fight, don't see how Hisoka can die at this point but Togashi may say fuck it so who knows.
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Why do these badass HxH characters never show sighs of.... fear? Like the same happened with Netero as he died fighting Meruem. Chrollo as Kurapika threatened to kill him. Why? Why are these characters so fucking badass? Awesome chapter, even though I think this chapter would only take 2 minutes in the anime lol and same could be said about all the chapters except the one where Chrollo explained all of his abilities. If we have 2 more chapters of this fight, This might surpass Netero vs. Meruem in length in the animu.

Anyway, I'm curious as to what Hisoka meant by "If I'm going to die anyway.." Does he have something up his sleeve? I mean he has to but I wonder what it is. Hopefully Togashi does 100+ chapters and completes Dark Continent as well one more arc, I can dream right? XD
Just let the last Arc be a Phatom troupe and I'll be okay with that or just them fighting some ultimate being in the DC with all Three Freccess fighting it
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Hisoka will have a ultimate move and probably just severely injury chrollo
And Hisoka will probably die or be close and then the match ends some how
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Ging or Pariston will appear?
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What page is the mysterious 3rd party on??
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What page is the mysterious 3rd party on??


What 3rd party are you referring to?
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Man I'm dissapointed in this fight. Chrollo is absolutely dominating Hisoka.

To me it's unbelievable that Chrollo is able to make so many puppets, while each one is still a danger to hisoka.

Just doesnt make sense to me.
These puppets should be about as strong as a muggle, which shouldnt even be able to scratch hisokas skin from what we learned about Nen.

Also I agree this fight is really dragging. He should do the explaining afterwards, like he did with alot of previous fights. Having to read and think so much just takes the tempo out of the fight and gets anticlimatic.
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What page is the mysterious 3rd party on??


What 3rd party are you referring to?


I was reading a review on the internet and it said that there might be a possible third party watching from behind the scenes. I was pretty confused because I didn't see any lurking shadows or indicators of another contender.
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Wow, what a chapter! Hisoka lost a leg now too and has come to think that he's gonna die. Wonder what the outcome will be in the next chapter, after all these puppets came running toward him and exploding.

4 more chapters and Hunter x Hunter will get a volume 34! O: Assuming that there's no hiatus in the near future.

Also, 4 more chapters and this arc will be longer than the Heavens Arena arc. 5 more chapters and it'll be longer than the Election arc.
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