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Apr 30, 2016 8:24 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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This episode was fun although the story still feels a bit loose with the whole naval warfare stuff.

One thing I find more interesting is the introduction of even more technology like the water bikes. Got a weird vibe out of the episode though overall with the supernatural possession gimmick. It felt quite out of character for this show up to this point. Rats and cats confirmed to take over the world someday

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Apr 30, 2016 9:50 AM

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I just hope the staff knows what they are doing.
1st episode that disappointed me. I'm worried as this is the best new series for me til rats happen. There are other good new shows but just good not very good. If this goes shit it'll be a very disappointing season.
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Apr 30, 2016 10:02 AM

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Well that's pretty "disturbing" problem for running out of toilet paper, but it seems some of the crew doesn't really mind about it. LOL
What more disturbing is the crew that didn't go to the mall. They're starting to get bored and some of it seems to get "hallucinated" and one is so unlucky to be "possessed".
There they said it again... "BLUE MERMAID" with "BLOOMER MAID". LOL
 
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Apr 30, 2016 10:10 AM

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good episode. Now is the time of the Musashi!!!
episode: 5/5

however, what the hell is that hamster(?) ?
 
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Apr 30, 2016 10:11 AM

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I'll take a guess, it's the rats isn't it? An aggression causing disease maybe? Explains the rogue instructor, the random berserk this episode and the German ship's mutiny.
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Apr 30, 2016 10:11 AM

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Lol they totally trolled us with the kidnapping
Wtf? I think that the possession scene was unnecessary and stupid...whatever...

Another cliffhanger :O
 
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Apr 30, 2016 10:16 AM

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NO TOILET PAPER! XD

Okay so with this episode's information I'd say the mystery is beginning to be solved. Those mice/hamsters/whatever that cause the girls to go berserk must be behind the mutinies and everything. Not sure I like magical brainwashing mice as the explanation but...oh well. The importance of the cats has suddenly skyrocketed anyway. But who unleashed these rats, and why?

My concern for poor Moka grows. Please don't have Mike fight a brainwashed Moka show, I'd hate that! :(
 
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Apr 30, 2016 10:18 AM

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hmm..
I have some theory..

maybe that hamster is somekind of bioweapon that can make people go mad..
and then all those attacks happened
 
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Apr 30, 2016 10:22 AM

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Nice episode.
This series is getting actually pretty interesting. Unexpectedly this series is turning to be even better than other animes of this season.
 
Apr 30, 2016 10:33 AM
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Seems more like a rabies infestation than a conspiracy after this, though I can't help but feel like that'd be too convenient because Tateishi clearly went berserk from it, and that's not exactly what I'd label as the calm and cold mindset you'd have to have to commit mutiny and stuff... so idk, I'm still not convinced

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Apr 30, 2016 10:56 AM

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Alien Rats are the reason I should have known
 
Apr 30, 2016 11:02 AM
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A rat inside a box from "Abyss" mail delivery... (anything with "abyss" word is bad lol)
So there is someone deliberately delivering rats to the ships, and maybe he/she's the true perpetrator.

And 10 cm cannon from Akashi! This means increasing firepower and surface battle capability for Harekaze, so I can expect more battle for next episodes.
 
Apr 30, 2016 11:02 AM

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I'll take a guess, it's the rats isn't it? An aggression causing disease maybe? Explains the rogue instructor, the random berserk this episode and the German ship's mutiny.

You should also consider the fact that the instructor's eyes in the 1st ep are not glowing red so I think that's out in the equation I guess.
 
Apr 30, 2016 11:13 AM
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So it's mind control or something like that.

Anyway, at this point I can't say it's surprising, but damn plot logic... The Harekaze is under suspicion but let's just upgrade their weaponry and be on our way... how about providing an escort instead?

Well, at least it's funny in a way.
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Apr 30, 2016 11:31 AM

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Hm I dunno yet. I feel like the appearance of the mind affecting rat will definitely be important later, but I'm not entirely sure how yet. I don't think this rat is the answer to everything, although it does answer some questions. One thing that isn't solved from this revelation is why the teacher attacked them at the beginning. It's clear that the rat makes people openly agressive and rash, but the teacher was completely calm and emotionless when she attacked and her eyes weren't glowing red like Tama's when she was 'infected' so for now the rat is probably something like a red herring to set up for a grand reveal later in the series.

Oh and Captain is still so kind, helping a fallen child which leads to her 'capture.' Man they sure tricked me xD
Also, I feel like some internal conflict is gonna come up between Mashiro and Akeno, probably Mashiro feeling insecure and blaming Akeno? Or her insecurities somehow being used as a source of conflict until her mother tells her why she's in the Harekaze.

Also, yeah pretty much confirmed something's up with the Musashi now, gg hope the Harekaze can help them without falling into some trap that incriminates them. Feel like Minami's investigation into the rat will be key here, and here's to hoping that the ships that are going to help the Musashi don't end up going crazy too (from the rats maybe)
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Apr 30, 2016 11:33 AM

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I love Kouko, lol. Akeno, too. Okay, all of them.

I'm surprised they didn't disguise before going for shopping. They could dress up in casual clothes at least.
But oh well, it resolved nicely. The hamster has me concerned tho...
 
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I've got a bad feeling about Musashi. I feel like there will be another battle and it will be Harekaze and Musashi......

I think I am overthinking....

but there is also a possibility that it can happen.


Amazing and funny episode!!!

 
Apr 30, 2016 12:03 PM

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Better then every past episode for sure.
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Apr 30, 2016 12:06 PM

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Seems to me that the strange behaviour and mutiny is related to that rat they took inboard.
But nothing is for sure yet.
It seems the crew is safe for the time being but a lot can still happen.
The girls could asking for an escort from the safety department till the reach the school which would prove their innocence and which would also keep them safe from other ships.
But i guess they didn't think of the option.
 
Apr 30, 2016 12:07 PM

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Akeno and her crews ran out of toilet papers.

Good to see they got the toilet papers by winning the lottery!
 
Apr 30, 2016 12:49 PM
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BetaPlayer said:
I've got a bad feeling about Musashi. I feel like there will be another battle and it will be Harekaze and Musashi......

I think I am overthinking....

but there is also a possibility that it can happen.


IMO, direct confrontation will be unlikely.

One hit from 46 cm cannons of Musashi, Harekaze will be finished... and Musashi have 3 batteries of those. Her secondary cannons (15.5 cm triple turrets) are also deadly for small ships, if the ship specifications are same with the real one from WWII.

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The girls could asking for an escort from the safety department till the reach the school which would prove their innocence and which would also keep them safe from other ships.
But i guess they didn't think of the option.


They couldn't.
Akashi and Mamiya were ordered to send supply for (and investigate) Musashi. Also... the 2 destroyers (Y470 Hamakaze and Y471 Maikaze) were needed to escort them until they reached that big battleship, since Akashi and Mamiya aren't battle-purpose ships.

As for requesting the other ships, they also couldn't. From the map at ep.3, most of them were cruising away/another direction from Harekaze.
 
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I forgot to point it earlier, was the Harekaze stationed on a particularly strong current or is there a lot of trash floating around in that world? to be found so easily on open sea...

I wonder if I'm naive and the real world is in fact that dirty.
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Apr 30, 2016 1:05 PM

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Lol they totally trolled us with the kidnapping
Wtf? I think that the possession scene was unnecessary and stupid...whatever...

Another cliffhanger :O


No, the "possession" scene was not stupid in the least, story-wise. Now we're starting to get a glimpse as to what's afflicting people and making them be "aggressive".
Shima, being laid-back as she's portrayed, quickly became feral and nuts when she was afflicted. It would explain how a good-natured Instructor would become so antagonistic towards her freshman students seemingly out of the blue.

Now, they're teasing us that it has something to do with the "hamster"-looking creature. So, rather than hypnotism, it could be some sort of "illness" that it somehow spreads.

Anyway, this episode is a nice break from the chaotic battle-of-the-week formula they have followed so far. If anything, they just got an upgrade to their armament, and (I'm hoping) restocked their ammunition.
Meaning, next episode should feature another epic naval engagement!
 
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The lax attitude of most of Harekaze's crew even after being fired upon three times was still pretty crazy… I feel ya, Mi-chan.

But I had a sense from the beginning that this was more than just a human conflict, and all the 'mutinies' had something with the Blue Mermaids' past… still the exact form that took was pretty direct and downright frightening. I'd think the crew would be much more shaken up by Tama going berserk though the confusion of their situation could have overwhelmed them.
Still I've got to wonder if there's more than just possession:
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You should also consider the fact that the instructor's eyes in the 1st ep are not glowing red so I think that's out in the equation I guess.


And, I wonder what's happened to the Musashi's crew. They've been out of contact for longer than the Harekaze, and none of them were shown controlling the ship…
 
Apr 30, 2016 1:59 PM

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I f*cking called this. The whole mind control thing. :)

I say they feed that bio weapon to the cat. Or better yet burn it in the engine.

The Musashi is probably filled with possessed bloodthirsty navy lolis.
 
Apr 30, 2016 2:11 PM

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LunarCrusade said:
BetaPlayer said:
I've got a bad feeling about Musashi. I feel like there will be another battle and it will be Harekaze and Musashi......

I think I am overthinking....

but there is also a possibility that it can happen.


IMO, direct confrontation will be unlikely.

One hit from 46 cm cannons of Musashi, Harekaze will be finished... and Musashi have 3 batteries of those. Her secondary cannons (15.5 cm triple turrets) are also deadly for small ships, if the ship specifications are same with the real one from WWII.

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The girls could asking for an escort from the safety department till the reach the school which would prove their innocence and which would also keep them safe from other ships.
But i guess they didn't think of the option.


They couldn't.
Akashi and Mamiya were ordered to send supply for (and investigate) Musashi. Also... the 2 destroyers (Y470 Hamakaze and Y471 Maikaze) were needed to escort them until they reached that big battleship, since Akashi and Mamiya aren't battle-purpose ships.

As for requesting the other ships, they also couldn't. From the map at ep.3, most of them were cruising away/another direction from Harekaze.
I just thought it might send a message of goodwill but your right it might take several days before another ship gets near them.

Wasn't the Musashi a Yamoto-class battleship?
Which would make it the biggest battleship ever build together with the Yamoto.
If you compare it to something German than it's comparable to the Bismarck-class, the Bismarck and the Tirpitz.
Basically the battleships that where most feared by the allies.
 
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tbh, it was getting more interesting. well not in the first half but i like the first half :D
the second half definetely interesting. there are some new character/cap from 2 ships. looking cool too i like it. but that possesion scene where the white hair girl suddenly went berserk suprised me well. didn't see that coming and i'm guessing the mouse was the one who possesed the girl ? sounds ridiculous but interesting imo.

i'm glad they are save finally. now it's time for Musashi. i've got a bad feeling about Musashi. i feel they situation might be worse than Harekaze. let's see.....looking foward for the next episode.

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yeah....Musashi is the same ship/class like Yamato but i guess Yamato is in the no.1 position in Yamato-class battleship or more like the big sisters, like in Aoki Hagane the second movie.
and there is still one more Yamato-class battle ship according wiki btw. it is Shinano.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato-class_battleship
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I don't think mermaids really exist.
 
Apr 30, 2016 2:27 PM
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What a problem to have running out of toilet paper, sounds like my life. lol
It was the rat all along omg! It was intense seeing Tama all fired up.
Definitely looking forward to learning more about Musashi.

igdi, why did they all laugh when Mii-chan said euros??
 
Apr 30, 2016 2:29 PM

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So after weeks of wondering why those other ships attacked them it seems like it going to boil down to rats possessing crew members... Can't say I'm thrilled. There's still a lot of episodes left though so maybe something will change.
 
Apr 30, 2016 2:44 PM
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igdi, why did they all laugh when Mii-chan said euros??
They laughed at the word she used to refer to herself (some archaic form I think). Somewhat hard to translate so the translators went with a nonsense joke instead... (I guess they couldn't think of something better)
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Apr 30, 2016 2:47 PM

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igdi, why did they all laugh when Mii-chan said euros??
They laughed at the word she used to refer to herself (some archaic form I think). Somewhat hard to translate so the translators went with a nonsense joke instead... (I guess they couldn't think of something better)
I looked it up as well because I was confused. She used the pronoun "washi" (儂) which, according to Jisho at least, is used by elderly males.
 
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I f*cking called this. The whole mind control thing. :)

I say they feed that bio weapon to the cat. Or better yet burn it in the engine.

The Musashi is probably filled with possessed bloodthirsty navy lolis.


I can't help but laugh at the last line.

You were right. But I would say we shouldn't kill the rat. More like we should experiment on it to solve this issue entirely.

Anyways, as others have said, the rat/hamster probably isn't the entire truth. It's probably more, though it is a major plot point. So far everything has it's purpose.
I mean I thought the cat would just be there to be a joke, but apparently it has a role.
Maybe it will have to go rat-hunting later on.

And yea rabies afflicting navy lolis!

Also, 10cm gun! Improved range, rate of fire and AA. The 10cm were one of the best heavy anti-air guns during the war. I think their turret #3 was down, so that's where it's going to be probably mounted at.
And I would assume they refill their torpedoes! More battles in the future.

So far, the series is great, episodes of non-stop battles then a care-free episode but still did not neglect the plot. Very well done.
Personally, I don't like using supernatural rabies infected rats/hamsters, but I guess it's the best plot device they can use to maintain a friendly atmosphere and not blame the problem on a specific person.

Regardless, it wasn't done poorly, so even though I don't like the rat idea, it might turns out to be very good regardless since so far the show has been executed flawlessly.

So far every other show this season has been disappointing me after the first or second episode. Despite having high expectations and anticipation for them... Surprisingly this show which I didn't expect that highly of is probably going to be one of my favorites this season.
 
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they're accused of mutiny and facing death but they're afraid of running out of toilet paper like are they fucking serious?
 
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they're accused of mutiny and facing death but they're afraid of running out of toilet paper like are they fucking serious?
They want at least a clean death, geddit? XD
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Apr 30, 2016 3:57 PM

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Mind control causes by lab rats, that is crazy. The cat's purpose on the ships has been explained with that, too most likely.

Musashi still gets foreshadowed, must be something huge happening.
 
Apr 30, 2016 3:59 PM

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Wow. I wonder what got into Shima all of a sudden. That was some crazy shit. That ending though, damn. I want to know what happened on the Musashi ship. Solid episode.


 
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I just thought it might send a message of goodwill but your right it might take several days before another ship gets near them.

Wasn't the Musashi a Yamoto-class battleship?
Which would make it the biggest battleship ever build together with the Yamoto.
If you compare it to something German than it's comparable to the Bismarck-class, the Bismarck and the Tirpitz.
Basically the battleships that where most feared by the allies.


Well, we can't say for sure for Bismarck/Tirpitz vs Musashi since they never engaged in a battle. But as far as I know, Musashi was far heavier and had the largest naval gun at that time.

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@Aversa
yeah....Musashi is the same ship/class like Yamato but i guess Yamato is in the no.1 position in Yamato-class battleship or more like the big sisters, like in Aoki Hagane the second movie.
and there is still one more Yamato-class battle ship according wiki btw. it is Shinano.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamato-class_battleship


It is quite incorrect to say Shinano was a Yamato-class battleship, since she was converted into aircraft carrier on mid-construction... and never saw any real actions.



Anyway, what does these flag means?

 
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Yandere Moka confirmed.

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My concern for poor Moka grows. Please don't have Mike fight a brainwashed Moka show, I'd hate that! :(

So am I, but unfortunately, that's inevitable..
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While our heroines have at least temporarily gotten back into the good graces of their school, now the mystery of the Musashi deepens. This episode managed to not have a sea battle, but it was still interesting. WTF is with the acid hamster from hell?
 
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First episode that wasnt amazing to me the rat thing seems a bit far fetched.
 
Apr 30, 2016 6:02 PM

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oh man that scene where they were welding without jackets

they gon have some mad sunburns up their arms when they're finished.

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Anyway, what does these flag means?



I'm not exactly sure because the first flag is not an ICS flag as far as I can tell, which is weird because the other two are.
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Anyway, what does these flag means?



Individually each flag means

center flag - X-ray- Stop all intentions and pay attention to my signals
bottom flag- India - turning to port

I have no idea what the top flag means. I couldn't find it in international signal flag codes. It could be Delta(which looks pretty close), which would mean maneuvering with difficulty.

All together they will have a different meaning, since hoisting multiple flags on close proximity will give them a different meaning entirely. Something which I hope a navy man here could help with
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My guess about these possesions is that, people react differently when being mind controlled. And the rats aren't only the source of this problem.
 
Apr 30, 2016 6:39 PM

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Aside from the whole mind controlling rodent thing, I'm more surprised on how they didn't gave a fuck on how Tama fell underwater then got spit right back up aboard their ship.
 
Apr 30, 2016 6:44 PM

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Mike...I think she is a lady luck herself, a living lady luck

I hope there won't be an evil Moka later.

Mashiro's older sister needs to have more screen time
 
Apr 30, 2016 6:46 PM

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There are few clues about what happened. There is a possibility that rats causes. Maybe it is a genetic crossbreeding hamster.
 
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Ahh yes the old rats are possessing the ship trick.

I'm torn at wither ship battles are good things or bad things. The action is great but what about the internal conflict it creates? We need real enemies, not just friendly fire!
 
Apr 30, 2016 7:34 PM

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It's the Var Syndrome
 
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It's the Var Syndrome


I think its similar, turning people more aggressive and lost control of themselves.
 
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