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Mar 1, 2015 4:55 AM

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Ckan said:

This episode also starts off with a tiny snippet from Volume 7: Battle of Loum.
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This'll be covering volumes 5,6 and 7 of the manga and seems to be a pretty faithful adaptation. Episode1 shows only the first half of Vol 5.
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They are taking it rather slow pace-wise too, which makes me feel like a full Origin adaptation won't ever happen. Hope I'm wrong.

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This episode also starts off with a tiny snippet from Volume 8: Battle of Loum.

That's 7. The battle of Loum will be episode 4. 8 is Odessa.

I'm glad I asked. Thanks for letting me know. Greatly appreaciated!
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loved it. now lets just hope its not 6 months + for the next ep.

also loved it when little Char said he'd grow up and make them all bow down to him.
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ex_necross said:
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I need to binge watch UC lol

My hype is over 9000 atm xD

Please tell me that's not true TwT


2 years is the best case scenario. Episode 2 is going to be Fall 2015, so hopefully episode 3 is this time next year, and episode 4 will be Fall 2016. Of course, Unicorn was initially on this same schedule then went to a 1 episode per year schedule..

And this is just gonna be volumes V-VII of the manga. Who knows how long it would take to get a full adaptation.
I'd be lying if I said that this didn't make me cry :(
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Anyone knows why Kycilia is fully grown in here? I mean, she was 24 in 0079. This is set in 0068. She's supposed to be 13 in this setting...
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Anyone knows why Kycilia is fully grown in here? I mean, she was 24 in 0079. This is set in 0068. She's supposed to be 13 in this setting...
I suppose it'd make sense if Yasuhiko bumped up her age to let him start on the Zabi feuding early. That, or he didn't check up on the official info - it could be an undertandable mistake given how aged she comes across in MSG.
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Ckan said:
carboncopy said:
Anyone knows why Kycilia is fully grown in here? I mean, she was 24 in 0079. This is set in 0068. She's supposed to be 13 in this setting...
I suppose it'd make sense if Yasuhiko bumped up her age to let him start on the Zabi feuding early. That, or he didn't check up on the official info - it could be an undertandable mistake given how aged she comes across in MSG.


Lol she did look around 40 in the original.

First one is a poor reason to twist pre-established canon though. I hope it wasn't on purpose because that's just bad writing. =/
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carboncopy said:
Ckan said:
I suppose it'd make sense if Yasuhiko bumped up her age to let him start on the Zabi feuding early. That, or he didn't check up on the official info - it could be an undertandable mistake given how aged she comes across in MSG.


Lol she did look around 40 in the original.

First one is a poor reason to twist pre-established canon though. I hope it wasn't on purpose because that's just bad writing. =/


I hope you don't expect Origin to follow the original. There's a ton of shit that was changed.
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Lol she did look around 40 in the original.

First one is a poor reason to twist pre-established canon though. I hope it wasn't on purpose because that's just bad writing. =/


I hope you don't expect Origin to follow the original. There's a ton of shit that was changed.


Ah, if that's the case then I probably shouldn't.

I'm still weirded out by Kycilia's nude scene though...
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carboncopy said:
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I hope you don't expect Origin to follow the original. There's a ton of shit that was changed.


Ah, if that's the case then I probably shouldn't.

I'm still weirded out by Kycilia's nude scene though...


The giant block nipple was pretty weird. I don't know why the closeup was censored though, these are OVAs, plus they already showed them just moments before.

But seriously wtf
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Prior to watching this, all of my knowledge about Gundam was contained in this
90-second clip of Episode 19 of "Lucky Star" (2007). This was when the otaku
high school girl Konata and her father were discussing the Gundam franchise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duwMRwDCvFE

With the exception of "Project A-ko" (1986), I have never had any interest in
the Mecha genre.
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carboncopy said:
ex_necross said:


I hope you don't expect Origin to follow the original. There's a ton of shit that was changed.


Ah, if that's the case then I probably shouldn't.

I'm still weirded out by Kycilia's nude scene though...




The result of the changes Yoshikazu Yasuhiko has made is that it's actually a better story than the original without being wildely different and breaking the continuity (so far nothing I've read contradicts events of the other main UC series or OVA's like 8th MS Team or Zeta Gundam). Making Gihren, Kycilia and Dozle older makes a lot of sense as well sinse it means they have a much greater role in the establishment of the Zabi fmaily as the rulers of the Principality of Zeon.
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I need to read the manga but I want to save up money and buy those awesome hardcover volume ones! Loved the first episode and now we wait...
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Char's characterization as a child is great. Sayla is whatever. Her expressions are pretty ridiculous. Ral's Ral. Kycillia could use more subtlety. Loum was nice, because Zaku II's. Don't care much for the CG. Definitely out of place though, and probably no more than a hook. I may even prefer certain aspects of IGLOO's take on Loum. Regardless, good stuff. I suppose it's a good time to catch up on the manga.
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Seeing so many people get their first exposure to Gundam here and finally seeing what its actually like and appreciating it is pretty interesting to see. I still think Bandai is doing an absolutely all time horrendous job of getting it exposure in the West and it could be getting so much more as a franchise if they were willing to get their heads out of there asses with regard to distribution. Like there's so much potential for it to really start to take off here again like it did during the Wing and 00 eras given the vibes I see off of the U.C OVAs but they just refuse to allow sites like Crunchyroll (where let's be honest the vast majority of Western anime fandom now gets its exposure to anime from) carry it. Like so much wasted opportunity it blows my mind.
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Seeing so many people get their first exposure to Gundam here and finally seeing what its actually like and appreciating it is pretty interesting to see. I still think Bandai is doing an absolutely all time horrendous job of getting it exposure in the West and it could be getting so much more as a franchise if they were willing to get their heads out of there asses with regard to distribution. Like there's so much potential for it to really start to take off here again like it did during the Wing and 00 eras given the vibes I see off of the U.C OVAs but they just refuse to allow sites like Crunchyroll (where let's be honest the vast majority of Western anime fandom now gets its exposure to anime from) carry it. Like so much wasted opportunity it blows my mind.


But if it gets big here..

"Gundam by Michael Bay, coming to a theater near you!"

I can do without the mainstream Western audience.. that would change Gundam as we know it, and by change I mean ruin. It's not the same as 14 years ago when Toonami aired G, Wing, and 0079 here in the states.

But yes, Bandai are morons and the potential for Gundam to get big in the West is definitely there. I'd just rather it stay in Japan. I'll take the Turn A dub we were promised though.
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ex_necross said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
Seeing so many people get their first exposure to Gundam here and finally seeing what its actually like and appreciating it is pretty interesting to see. I still think Bandai is doing an absolutely all time horrendous job of getting it exposure in the West and it could be getting so much more as a franchise if they were willing to get their heads out of there asses with regard to distribution. Like there's so much potential for it to really start to take off here again like it did during the Wing and 00 eras given the vibes I see off of the U.C OVAs but they just refuse to allow sites like Crunchyroll (where let's be honest the vast majority of Western anime fandom now gets its exposure to anime from) carry it. Like so much wasted opportunity it blows my mind.


But if it gets big here..

"Gundam by Michael Bay, coming to a theater near you!"

I can do without the mainstream Western audience.. that would change Gundam as we know it, and by change I mean ruin. It's not the same as 14 years ago when Toonami aired G, Wing, and 0079 here in the states.

But yes, Bandai are morons and the potential for Gundam to get big in the West is definitely there. I'd just rather it stay in Japan. I'll take the Turn A dub we were promised though.


I don't mean mainstream big but like getting attention from the Western anime community sort of big. First it would have to start by getting any sort of traction with them again first.
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The giant block nipple was pretty weird. I don't know why the closeup was censored though, these are OVAs, plus they already showed them just moments before.

But seriously wtf


Not the reason why I was weirded out, but yeah that is weird. I can only guess that it's some new style of censoring.

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The result of the changes Yoshikazu Yasuhiko has made is that it's actually a better story than the original without being wildely different and breaking the continuity (so far nothing I've read contradicts events of the other main UC series or OVA's like 8th MS Team or Zeta Gundam). Making Gihren, Kycilia and Dozle older makes a lot of sense as well sinse it means they have a much greater role in the establishment of the Zabi fmaily as the rulers of the Principality of Zeon.




Anyway, I've gotten a bit off-tangent there.

Maybe it's just me, but changing their ages already counts as wildly different because it confuses canon. And (if I'm remembering it right) there are side stories that mentions that the Federation only had jet fighters, balls, tanks and artillery against the Zakus, so the existence of Guntanks contradicts them. Also, there was an instance of "Sieg Zeon" in the episode. That phrase shouldn't make sense until 0079.

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And (if I'm remembering it right) there are side stories that mentions that the Federation only had jet fighters, balls, tanks and artillery against the Zakus, so the existence of Guntanks contradicts them.


RTX-65 is considered as tank in Origin, not mobile suit. :D
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Federation tanks are exchanging fire!
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Holy sh*t, that was really good. The space battle was goddamn good. If all Gundam series were like this I would overloaded with happiness. Totally 10/10.

Ramba Ral was good-looking LOL, unlike when he is 35 :)

Loli Sayla is cute :)



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carboncopy said:
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The giant block nipple was pretty weird. I don't know why the closeup was censored though, these are OVAs, plus they already showed them just moments before.

But seriously wtf


Not the reason why I was weirded out, but yeah that is weird. I can only guess that it's some new style of censoring.

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The result of the changes Yoshikazu Yasuhiko has made is that it's actually a better story than the original without being wildely different and breaking the continuity (so far nothing I've read contradicts events of the other main UC series or OVA's like 8th MS Team or Zeta Gundam). Making Gihren, Kycilia and Dozle older makes a lot of sense as well sinse it means they have a much greater role in the establishment of the Zabi fmaily as the rulers of the Principality of Zeon.




Anyway, I've gotten a bit off-tangent there.

Maybe it's just me, but changing their ages already counts as wildly different because it confuses canon. And (if I'm remembering it right) there are side stories that mentions that the Federation only had jet fighters, balls, tanks and artillery against the Zakus, so the existence of Guntanks contradicts them. Also, there was an instance of "Sieg Zeon" in the episode. That phrase shouldn't make sense until 0079.



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And (if I'm remembering it right) there are side stories that mentions that the Federation only had jet fighters, balls, tanks and artillery against the Zakus, so the existence of Guntanks contradicts them.


RTX-65 is considered as tank in Origin, not mobile suit. :D
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Federation tanks are exchanging fire!


Wiki disagrees though. Then again, the term "Mobile Suit" most likely doesn't exist yet so they're still calling them tanks.

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Not the reason why I was weirded out, but yeah that is weird. I can only guess that it's some new style of censoring.





Anyway, I've gotten a bit off-tangent there.

Maybe it's just me, but changing their ages already counts as wildly different because it confuses canon. And (if I'm remembering it right) there are side stories that mentions that the Federation only had jet fighters, balls, tanks and artillery against the Zakus, so the existence of Guntanks contradicts them. Also, there was an instance of "Sieg Zeon" in the episode. That phrase shouldn't make sense until 0079.







Eh, I guess we can just conclude whether the changes are good depends on person to person. I agree they don't look their ages (Gundam-san pokes fun at this too; Kycilia is very sensitive about her looks in there), but I'm just gonna point back to the canon again.

And as for "Sieg Zeon", I can agree it's some sort of a "Heil Hitler". Yeah, Gihren is likened to Hitler and Zeon to Nazi Germany. But, it means "Victorious Zeon"; it's supposed to be directed to the nation itself, which doesn't exist yet, and wouldn't make sense to chant to Deikun who is dead.
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Not bad.

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Young Ramba
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ Young Hamon

Not to mention they were both badass. Can't complain.

Quite a few questionable directing choices here and there... rather odd pacing throughout, somewhat dissonant voice acting at times, really inconsistent mood/atmosphere and a few shots that would have been better had they been done traditionally, though the CG was otherwise fantastic.

I like how the Guntank recoils, with a pitch and backwards motion. Little touches like that really help to make it seem big and powerful, and are generally absent from Gundam.

Also, Hamon was bitchin' badass. This can't be repeated often enough.

4/5.
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I thought just about everything was great but I had one major gripe/concern and that was how they portrayed Zeon Deikun. Throughout the whole Universal Century of Gundam he's painted as a benevolent philosopher who wanted to help humanity move forward in peace and mutual understanding through Newtype evolution but who also had himself and his romantic ideals buried+twisted by politics/political ambitions (of the Zabis). In a nutshell at least.


The Origin ep 1 basically from what I can tell depicted him as some raving fanatic who didn't care about any of that Newtype theory/helping humanity move forward past its dark history/cycle of violence and merely wanted to wage war on those who live on earth. He flat out says "This just asks for more autonomy! That's not what I want! I want to wage war on all earthnoids!". I've seen, become invested, and have fallen in love with UC gundam and that sounds like a very iffy if not misleading portrayal of the character and what he stands for/what he symbolizes and how that plays into the future.


That aside though it Origin was great. Never knew Kycilia was such a babe in her youth.
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I thought just about everything was great but I had one major gripe/concern and that was how they portrayed Zeon Deikun. Throughout the whole Universal Century of Gundam he's painted as a benevolent philosopher who wanted to help humanity move forward in peace and mutual understanding through Newtype evolution but who also had himself and his romantic ideals buried+twisted by politics/political ambitions (of the Zabis). In a nutshell at least.

The Origin ep 1 basically from what I can tell depicted him as some raving fanatic who didn't care about any of that Newtype theory/helping humanity move forward past its dark history/cycle of violence and merely wanted to wage war on those who live on earth. He flat out says "This just asks for more autonomy! That's not what I want! I want to wage war on all earthnoids!". I've seen, become invested, and have fallen in love with UC gundam and that sounds like a very iffy if not misleading portrayal of the character and what he stands for/what he symbolizes and how that plays into the future.

I definitely think Yasuhiko's portrayal of Zeon Deikun comes across as heavy-handed, and perhaps contrary to what the original show and its sequels might've implied - and it's not the only part of Yas's version of (past) events that I'm not so keen on. We should definitely consider his person in The Origin as likely distorted to some level from his stress and possible poisoning - but after meeting his raving wife, it does seem that Yas does envision the man as quite fanatical - whether or not he's only totally gone off the rails in these end days - who knows.

On the other-hand, it might be going too far to take the idea of a visionary and truly prophetical Zeon Deikun at face value. His mentions in the anime have always been indirect - almost entirely second-hand at best - and I'm unsure as to whether he ever had any scientific basis on which he foretold the coming of Newtypes, or whether it was purely wishful and coincidentally correct thinking on his part. In fact, post 0079,


But I'd definitely be careful about thinking of Deikun only as a person who sought to "helping humanity move forward past its dark history/cycle of violence", because speeches made by Deikun as found in Tomino's novels make him come off as somewhat radical in his beliefs. His assertions on spacenoids becoming Newtypes might be harmless enough - positive and thoughtful (if only given real credence with the actual later appearance of the magica newtypes) - but coupled with his views on the complete preservation of the earth and his sometimes supernatural rhetoric - there's definitely room for a somewhat more unpleasant and unhinged man behind the positive revolutionary ideas he brings. Of course, the novels diverge quite a bit from the anime, so there's that to consider too, but I think that in the end there's quite possibly a significant difference between the portrayal of positive newtypes in the anime - and what the actual ideas of Zeon may have meant for him.
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I deffinitely felt that Deikun's dialogue was a bit hamfisted . I can see him coming across as a bit mad, particualrly under the stress of leading Side 3 towards autonamy whilst pushing his Newtype Theory, but he's never before been protrayed as war monger. I suspect the use of the word war was meant more as a metaphore than an actual statement of intent and would fit better into what little we know of him.

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I thought just about everything was great but I had one major gripe/concern and that was how they portrayed Zeon Deikun. Throughout the whole Universal Century of Gundam he's painted as a benevolent philosopher who wanted to help humanity move forward in peace and mutual understanding through Newtype evolution but who also had himself and his romantic ideals buried+twisted by politics/political ambitions (of the Zabis). In a nutshell at least.

The Origin ep 1 basically from what I can tell depicted him as some raving fanatic who didn't care about any of that Newtype theory/helping humanity move forward past its dark history/cycle of violence and merely wanted to wage war on those who live on earth. He flat out says "This just asks for more autonomy! That's not what I want! I want to wage war on all earthnoids!". I've seen, become invested, and have fallen in love with UC gundam and that sounds like a very iffy if not misleading portrayal of the character and what he stands for/what he symbolizes and how that plays into the future.

I definitely think Yasuhiko's portrayal of Zeon Deikun comes across as heavy-handed, and perhaps contrary to what the original show and its sequels might've implied - and it's not the only part of Yas's version of (past) events that I'm not so keen on. We should definitely consider his person in The Origin as likely distorted to some level from his stress and possible poisoning - but after meeting his raving wife, it does seem that Yas does envision the man as quite fanatical - whether or not he's only totally gone off the rails in these end days - who knows.

On the other-hand, it might be going too far to take the idea of a visionary and truly prophetical Zeon Deikun at face value. His mentions in the anime have always been indirect - almost entirely second-hand at best - and I'm unsure as to whether he ever had any scientific basis on which he foretold the coming of Newtypes, or whether it was purely wishful and coincidentally correct thinking on his part. In fact, post 0079,


But I'd definitely be careful about thinking of Deikun only as a person who sought to "helping humanity move forward past its dark history/cycle of violence", because speeches made by Deikun as found in Tomino's novels make him come off as somewhat radical in his beliefs. His assertions on spacenoids becoming Newtypes might be harmless enough - positive and thoughtful (if only given real credence with the actual later appearance of the magica newtypes) - but coupled with his views on the complete preservation of the earth and his sometimes supernatural rhetoric - there's definitely room for a somewhat more unpleasant and unhinged man behind the positive revolutionary ideas he brings. Of course, the novels diverge quite a bit from the anime, so there's that to consider too, but I think that in the end there's quite possibly a significant difference between the portrayal of positive newtypes in the anime - and what the actual ideas of Zeon may have meant for him.



I can see how there's room for what you're saying but just based off of the anime canon I feel like Deikun's psychopathic portrayal undermines quite a bit in terms of the future chronology/story. I don't think Deikun is a saint either as Gundam UC does a great job of creating rather grey characters but he's always been depicted as a benefactor who at his core wanted humanity to evolve past war and violence through Newtype evolution. Now how easily/realistically that movement can be achieved is whole other discussion entirely (and part of me thinks that the only realistic way for that to happen was for someone to do something like what was done in CCA; the closest thing we have to seeing what might have been in that regard is the ending of the 00 Trailblazer film where that future seems to be more on the utopian side) considering how Earthnoids' souls' are weighed down by earth's gravity. But more or less Deikun being depicted as a nutcase makes the viewer (especially if Origins is their gateway into UC in which case this totally misleads them imo) believe that Deikun was only passionate about being at war with the Earthnoids and didn't talk much sense (passion in hindsight which is the kind of what the Newtype theory looks to move past so that's contradictory in itself). I kind of wish it was like you said and went mad due to poison and exhaustion. It would almost make things a LITTLE better for me but I don't think that was the intention as I think they would've/could've made that a little more clear by having him cough, look physically deteriorated, etc. in between his talks of raining hellfire on the Earthnoids and Gaia.
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^Like I said, definitely a bit hamfisted with his portrayel in the anime there. He wasn't even like that in the manga where he raged about his speach being inadequit to convey his thoughts and stir up revolution, but no mention was ever made of war. Heck, it's seen in a flashback and isn't remotely made clear what speach it would be or when it would be given where the anime clearly puts it as being the night before his death.
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^Like I said, definitely a bit hamfisted with his portrayel in the anime there. He wasn't even like that in the manga where he raged about his speach being inadequit to convey his thoughts and stir up revolution, but no mention was ever made of war. Heck, it's seen in a flashback and isn't remotely made clear what speach it would be or when it would be given where the anime clearly puts it as being the night before his death.


I'm really gonna have to go read the first volume of Origin or whatever this episode covered to compare the differences. I'm still quite raw about it lol. Also I've heard from some that Yasuhiko was part of the creative team for the original 0079 but upon a quick google search it looks like he was just doing character design? Is that right? Idk why I was under the impression he pitched on work on the story of the original.
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^Like I said, definitely a bit hamfisted with his portrayel in the anime there. He wasn't even like that in the manga where he raged about his speach being inadequit to convey his thoughts and stir up revolution, but no mention was ever made of war. Heck, it's seen in a flashback and isn't remotely made clear what speach it would be or when it would be given where the anime clearly puts it as being the night before his death.

Yeah, that scene being placed as a flashback (presumably from Astraia's pov) did make the manga depiction seem more 'uneal' - and perhaps slightly more unrealiable compared with the anime.

But Zeon does actually say the same 'declaration of war' line (as translated by Vertical) and the colourful hellfire/burning stuff. Given how inflammatory his speech was, it does make sense that this was the speech he died before giving. Since Yasuhiko is directing - it's safe to say that this is probably how he would fit the timeline together, but it's also true that maybe it was the necessity of time constraints that made him move the event to a definite moment in time.


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I'm really gonna have to go read the first volume of Origin or whatever this episode covered to compare the differences. I'm still quite raw about it lol. Also I've heard from some that Yasuhiko was part of the creative team for the original 0079 but upon a quick google search it looks like he was just doing character design? Is that right? Idk why I was under the impression he pitched on work on the story of the original.
This is from the middle of the manga - the Char & Sayla volume if you have Vertical's release.
I'm not 100% on this, but I believe staff roles in anime back in the day were a bit more flexible - and character design isn't just the art, but also working on the backgrounding and perhaps plotting with the director. Yas is also credited as the animation director for something like15 episodes.
So people mentioning him as one of the 'original creators' are probably giving a misleading idea, but he' was definitely close to the inner workings of it all. It might also be people getting confused with him being the "original creator" of The Origin.

But Yas is definitely well qualified as the writer of The Origin - which is an amazing readaptation/interpretation sans the weaker flashback content. As the original character designer, a past animator who worked on the series, and also as a mangaka with a preference for historical-biographical stories - MSG The Origin really worked out well in his hands. Unfortunately, I do think that the 'past' and original content that the anime is adapting - well, it's the weakest part of the manga.

(I'll try and respond to your earlier reply when I have more time - and if I have anything worth saying.)
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bad points
1º fanservice with Kycillia Zabi was ridiculous
2º that silly moment when Dozle Zabi's wounds opened was ridiculous
3º Ramba Ral all happy being Artesia babysitter was ridiculous (in fact, Ramba Ral is such a nice character on the original Gundam and on The Origin he is preety disappointing...)
4º all that time showing Jimba Ral as a crazy old was disappointing
5º Sasro Zabi was such a pointless character
6º Guntanks on 0068? But all Federation mobile suits were based on Zaku...

good points:
1º the first scene with Char's Zaku was cool
2º that scene in which spacenoids of Side 3 were repressed by the Federation Forces was awesome

I didn't like. =(
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Am I the only one who thought they overdid the comic relief a bit? I feel like it really doesn't fit in to a political drama very well. Also, Dozle and Ramba Ral are two of my favourite characters from the original series, so the two of them being so goofy was a disappointment. Perhaps they're using it to illustrate their growth as characters, or will be in later episodes?

Otherwise it was pretty good.
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Lindle said:
Am I the only one who thought they overdid the comic relief a bit? I feel like it really doesn't fit in to a political drama very well. Also, Dozle and Ramba Ral are two of my favourite characters from the original series, so the two of them being so goofy was a disappointment. Perhaps they're using it to illustrate their growth as characters, or will be in later episodes?

Otherwise it was pretty good.


I agree. Dozle and Ramba Ral were disappointing and the comic relief, for me, it was the worst. I prefer the derp moments from Reconguista in G .-.
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Little Sayla was really cute. I wonder if the Red Comet retained his spine as Casval Rem Deikun, and took Zeon's legacy, power, ambition and all, would things be different? Sunrise would give us another alternate universe, perish the thought but I still wonder. 8/10
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Little Sayla was really cute. I wonder if the Red Comet retained his spine as Casval Rem Deikun, and took Zeon's legacy, power, ambition and all, would things be different? Sunrise would give us another alternate universe, perish the thought but I still wonder. 8/10


You know, I don't think it's so much that Char lost his spine as Casval or took the easy way out by running away from his family/father's legacy. I think ultimately Char chose revenge (in 0079) and couldn't forgive the Zabi family. He was too revenge-driven in the early stages to really consider what the Deikun name and legacy meant to him (although gradually you see him consider and empathize with/embrace it as we see it all culminate in Char's Counterattack where he chooses to follow/build on his father's legacy and Newtype theory and once again become Casval Rem Deikun).
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I'm not familiar with the Gundam series myself but I've had a lot of friends pestering me to start off here. I enjoyed it a lot! And I'm sure it can only get better from here!
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Ramba Ral all happy being Artesia babysitter was ridiculous (in fact, Ramba Ral is such a nice character on the original Gundam and on The Origin he is preety disappointing...)


That's the point. He is a nice guy, a man of honor and was one of the first to give Amuro a face of the enemy, so to speak.

Anyway, it seems to me Sunrise didn't bring their A-team to Origin and I think the cg looks worse than Unicorn. The battles in G-reco look better (and BF Try, when it's not screaming and explosions).
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Any idea on when the next episodes will be coming?
Mar 23, 2015 8:14 PM

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Wow , that was just amazing. Best thing that happened to the Gundam franchise after Unicorn i think
Mar 31, 2015 8:38 PM

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That was amazing.. it's been a while since I've seen some good gundam (dropped reconguista few weeks ago, bleh). I actually enjoyed the funny moments, I thought they broke up the tense serious atmosphere of everything else pretty damn well haha.

I've watched 0079, Zeta , and most of Unicorn for UC stuff. It was fun seeing all these characters younger versions , even though I barely remember some of them (watched 0079 about 4 years ago, at a somewhat of a low point in my life)
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Any idea on when the next episodes will be coming?


This fall
Apr 11, 2015 7:59 PM

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It's a good thing I finally got around to watching the original Gundam a few months back. I understand what's going on and who the characters are!

Degwin is so cool he never takes his sunglasses off. What's with the witch costume for Artesia?
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This was phenomenal. The re-writing of some of the events are pretty good. I like it.
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Yeah, this was great! Aside from those weird CGI horses, the animation was beautiful. The comedic moments kinda stuck out like a sore thumb, but whatever. Is that cat Disney-sidekick-smart in the manga too? I couldn't help but think of how freaked out a real cat would be in zero G.
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How is this a adaptation of? http://myanimelist.net/manga/214/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam:_The_Origin

So far in reading the manga and watching the first ova there is nothing in the manga that's in the ova.

Kidou Senshi Gundam: The Origin is a retelling of the original gundam with some details here and there changed. so far the only relation it has is that its a gundam series in the U.C. and it has the same name.

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How is this a adaptation of? http://myanimelist.net/manga/214/Kidou_Senshi_Gundam:_The_Origin

So far in reading the manga and watching the first ova there is nothing in the manga that's in the ova.

Kidou Senshi Gundam: The Origin is a retelling of the original gundam with some details here and there changed. so far the only relation it has is that its a gundam series in the U.C. and it has the same name.

The anime is adapting the flashback arc that takes place about a third of the way in. If you're reading Vertical's release, it starts at volume 5.
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If you have read the manga or have seen the next episode, Zeon Zum Deikun's messianic metaphors (e.g. referring to a cross when it is suggested he could be executed) is explained due to madness but for first time viewers it is a bit weird.[/spoiler]

If you are watching the dub, you better have strong eardrums for Artesia's voice.

RAMBO RAL

The Munzo Defense Force members were funny.
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i found the first episode to be really interesting and touching with the emotional parts as well. made ya feel the tragedy of it all for casval and artesia.


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Was pleasantly surprised. Or, perhaps, surprised would be a bit much to say. After all, this is Gundam. I guess Char was tough even in his early days (as per his reputation). Ral Ramba also an interesting character. Ah, the power plays...

The ED was beautiful!
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