Aldnoah.Zero Episode 9 Discussion

chickenonthepan said:


I linked the fixed translation from another guy... If you really read my post, you will see that... But he is right on the part that Inaho is the one who want to be friend, I guess. Anyone on Animesuki agree with that. And some people there know Japanese. So you are probably wrong about Inaho doesn't give sh** about Hime, my friend. (Even if Asseylum is who wants friendship, Inaho swears to protect her even after his goal is reached. That means he has **** for her already)

And again about Slaine's greatness... He is a badly written character just as everyone else on A/Z. Read Keten's criticisms, he is pretty fair and objective. Slaine gets more love because he is the underdog who has many hardship. But to be fair, I can't see him outside his obsession for Asseylum, at least for now. He is not a good written character. And now they are trying to fit some inner struggle into him to make him more dimensional. I will see what they are trying to do, just hope it's not a stupid reason like sympathizing with Martians, who killed millions of his country men for land and resources...

Inaho and Hime are undeveloped. So whose faults is that? Not the characters themselves. It's the writer with lazy writing. If they are fleshed out good enough, they are pretty enjoyable for everyone. Fans who understand Inaho under his mask enjoy him, but that's a minority. Not everyone put enough thought into the show to reason Inaho's action(ep.7 for example).

and yeah, Suzaku wasn't hated that much... Really? I still remember people bashing him like no tomorrow. Inaho's bashing now is meaningless compare to that. (Even Haruto's bashing is not comparable, yes) Lets see what happen in fan opinion when we see another Suzaku on screen... Fan opinions can change, they are not permanent.

But no matter he will be another Suzaku or not. Amamiya already changed her opinion about Slaine because of what he is going to do. You sure other people won't be like her?

HopeLight said:


Friendship is friendship. Like Slaine's admiration/worship/loyalty to the princess. It's not romantic love at all. You're reading too much (all shippers, not just you) in something that doesn't exist yet.

Anything you're saying is irrelevant. Slaine's popular for whatever reason, people enjoy him in Japan. They don't enjoy Inaho. They hate him because he's boring and dull. He's like that protagonist from the swimming anime only without flaws and gags or muscles in a mecha show.

You're also mistaken if you think western forums are relevant to the buyer fanbase the show is aimed. Suzaku won popularity polls in Japan. He's far more popular than any of the A.Z. cast, including Slaine. He'll never be as popular as Lelouch because Lelouch overshadowed him in love since the beginning.

Amamiya's opinion is unimportant because she's biased to affects to her character and we've heard she has a huge death flag from her former interview. Amamiya said in the earlier Newtype interview that her favorite is her own character. Slaine's probably planting obvious death flags on her. She also never said her opinion has changed. Simply that Slaine's going to do something terrible (implicit on the phrase she uses is when a character values will 'drop' in a playful way because of some action they take). She's not giving her personal opinion. She is the one saying Slaine I love youuu! in an interview recorded after that one (on the 30th), after the dubbing of episode 12 was complete.

She already knows what happened, she confirms she loves Slaine the best (after her character).

_onee-sama said:
I now officially declare her relevant xD

She's been my favourite girl from the start, but now she is my waifu

chickenonthepan said:
My guess: they want to make him seem less obsessive with Hime. But after all what he shown in ep 8, this is a really a 180 degree turn... Maybe we will have to blame the bad writing again.

Really, I don't know what is he feel conflict about. If mars need resources that much, why not make peace, co-operate with earth?

Just hope he won't go all Suzaku: "Terrans, please surrender so that Martians won't kill you. And we will live in peace under Martian royal rule. If you don't, I will kill you myself." Lmao.

chickenonthepan said:
And again about Slaine's greatness... He is a badly written character just as everyone else on A/Z. Read Keten's criticisms, he is pretty fair and objective. Slaine gets more love because he is the underdog who has many hardship. But to be fair, I can't see him outside his obsession for Asseylum, at least for now. He is not a good written character. And now they are trying to fit some inner struggle into him to make him more dimensional. I will see what they are trying to do, just hope it's not a stupid reason like sympathizing with Martians, who killed millions of his country men for land and resources...

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Well that was a decent episode, but things feel really compressed to just get some of the basic dramas out of the way in time for the big finale. People seem to get over a lot of their shit remarkably quickly this week and Asseylum even gets to make her address though as anyone could expect it's blocked by Saazbaum. To me his back story doesn't really make a whole lot of sense though it is an effort at more development for a Vers character. I just don't understand, like other than his wife the system worked for him, yet he claims he's carrying out a necessary and just revenge except instead of taking it out on the people that set him up in a war fought under false pretenses and to distract from the corruption of their own culture it seems like his actions only serve to justify the whole conflict by finishing the job for them. I just can't really pretend to understand where the logic is in his actions by taking out his grief on a totally innocent party. To me he gained a few points but also lost a lot towards being portrayed as a more sympathetic and multi-dimensional martian character as right now it just looks like he's driving conflict for the sake of it.

WolfWood37 said:
So now she's really dead? Rayet you idiot...well there goes that ship. And Slaine is screwed either way now.

7jaws7 said:
I honestly don't believe for one second that Princess Asseylum is dead.

Meritas said:
Thanks, Urobuchi.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Well that was a decent episode, but things feel really compressed to just get some of the basic dramas out of the way in time for the big finale. People seem to get over a lot of their shit remarkably quickly this week and Asseylum even gets to make her address though as anyone could expect it's blocked by Saazbaum. To me his back story doesn't really make a whole lot of sense though it is an effort at more development for a Vers character. I just don't understand, like other than his wife the system worked for him, yet he claims he's carrying out a necessary and just revenge except instead of taking it out on the people that set him up in a war fought under false pretenses and to distract from the corruption of their own culture it seems like his actions only serve to justify the whole conflict by finishing the job for them. I just can't really pretend to understand where the logic is in his actions by taking out his grief on a totally innocent party. To me he gained a few points but also lost a lot towards being portrayed as a more sympathetic and multi-dimensional martian character as right now it just looks like he's driving conflict for the sake of it.

Tommk said:
So its confirmed urobutchi doing ep1-3 and ep9-12 ?

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bastek66 said:
Fucking Rat

Hibiki07 said:
Why the hell would you kill a person that nice?! >_<

Is good to see that Slaine is safe ... well, kinda safe.