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| While I spoiled myself by looking at characters listed in the manga section in MAL, it was still difficult to take what has become of Hoshijiro. I will miss the energetic girl who was once amongst the living. Kunato deserves to meet a tragic ending for what he has done to Hoshijiro. At this point, I wouldn't mind seeing him kicking the bucket, I am that mad with what he has done. Looks like Lala played a vital role and almost everything behind the immortal counsel, Tanikaze's resemblance to Hiroki is now revealed. Overall, an excellent episode and I have a feeling this anime will only get better, it must be getting better! Also, it was sad to see one of the Honaka sister falling too. |
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| I hope Kunato will be haunted forever with what he did to Hoshijiro. But I kind of have a feeling he'll be an even bigger asshole after this :/ I know that's no longer Hoshijiro but it's painful seeing "her" like that >__< Also, RIP one of the Honoka sisters. Highlight of the episode = when Lala was snuggling up to Hiro XD! |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| hoshijiro alien chick still just as hot. i didnt realise hiyama would have had such an important role. also got to meet the one that taguht nagate all his tricks |
"Urushibara Ruka. The mannerisms and voice of a woman... No... More feminine than any woman. But he's a guy. Taller than Mayuri, but so very thin... But he's a guy. Looks great in a miko outfit... But he's a guy. It's already twilight And yet, it's so hot. The cicadas are crying. But... He's a guy." |
Fai said: KazuhoYoshii said: MoeGod said: They changed the flashback? I thought it was supposed to be about when Kobayashi, Hirooki, Lala, and Ochiai first got the Kabizashi? That was weird, but I guess they probably wanted to shed light on Nagate's origins earlier on, and do the Kabi flashback for later. Now that I think of it, it might work out. I can only hope so. That shit is crucial to be learned. And simply mentioning it having happened like they did before is not enough. I am thinking we will get that flashback as well as Yeah, sounds about right. I was thinking |
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| Haha Kunato in fear - he totally broke down. That flashback of 100 years ago was good. Lol Hiroki flirting with Lala XD Hiroki such a badass, even when he's old. That placenta, it said Tanikaze.. :o |
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| Undead Hoshishiro and Hiroki in the past kicked some serious butt It was a nice flashback coming from Lala Hayami Hoshishiro becoming a queen like Kerrigan from StarCraft? |
1lau said: Hoshishiro becoming a queen like Kerrigan from StarCraft? And Tanikaze is going to be her Raynor :P I'm sorry, couldn't resist. But I am interested in how much of Hoshijiro memories she has and just how will she interact with humans now that it is established she has some of her old memories and she is capable of interaction. In episode 2 I think, a character (can't remember who) asked if Gauna want to communicate with people and now there's an actual possibility for that. Hopefully it doesn't turn into one of those "I-love-you-but-I-am-a-spy-planted-to-kill-you-all" instances. |
| That guy still lives? Damn. |
michaelz_14 said: i also agree with how this show doesn't get any recognition MAINLY because of the animation style and how it isn't appealing to the eyes. lets face it, people are superficial. all we can do about that is comment on how it's their loss. this is one of the best shows of the season easily. so i really hope this gets a second season, these past few eps especially have been the best yet! until reading it here, i never actually thought to question why there's a talking ex-soldier bear on this ship.... The show is only unpopular in the West. I think the main reason is that it's not on Crunchyroll nor Funimation. Once it comes out on Netflix there should be a lot more fans. However, it is doing EXTREMELY well in Japan. On 2chan it's the 2nd most talked about anime after Love Live S2. It's also #2 in preorders after Love Live S2 (although Love Live is way ahead of everyone else). It looks like it'll easily hit 10K sales which should be very nice for the studio. |
| Sucks to be you, Kunato. How does it feel, listening to the voice of the girl you sacrificed? I'm so loving this series. Season 2 please T_T |
| It was cool seeing some history of Sidonia, I for one would like to know more of it's history, and of Sidonia's underbelly and it's pipelines or whatever it's called. |
| This episode whould have been named "Rampage" after chapter 15 of the manga because of both Benisuzume and Hiroki. ^^ Reite said: If Hiroki returned 14 years before the current events, then Nagate is 14? Or was he medically aged. He likely has accelerated aging which would stop at some point. It's likely because Honoka sisters are only 5 years old and yet are mentally and physically young adults. It's not a spoiler because it was mentioned in one of the info pages that are occasionally at the end of manga chapters. It has never been mentioned within the story or plays a part in the plot. Another fun fact: Benisuzume was named after Tsutomu Nihei's 1 shot Sidonia prototype "Winged Armor Suzumega" where Suzumega was the titular biomecha in a setting that bore some elements of Sidonia no Kishi and Benisuzume was the name of a platoon of those mechas. Benisuzume means "Elephant Hawk Moth" and was initially translated as "Red Spinghidae" before going back to calling it Benisuzume. |
UnsightlyWalrusMay 31, 2014 5:32 AM
Onuma said: Takana_no_Hana said: I disagree with this part. He has JUST JOINED the school and he was given priority status due to his past with Hiroki. They gave him the type 17(While Kunato worked so hard to earn his fame and the right to use this type). And even though he's a trainee who has just joined in the community(heck, his demonstration was lacking when his score is low) -> Kunato has the right to doubt in his ability[even though we all know he could do better with type 17]) Sure, you're free to disagree, but let me make one thing clear, Kunato never piloted a type-17. Do you think they would give Tsugumori to him just because he thinks he has the right to pilot it? Nagate was especially trained by Hiroki to operate that type of frame. And yes, Kunato had the right to doubt Nagate's piloting skills, but he had no right to do what he did. That's the problem there, if you take a look at the perspective of people on the ship, they have no idea who Nagate is and what he did to have such a special treatment from the higher officer. If it wasn't for Hiroki he wouldn't have received those treatment and be special. I strongly agreed with what Fai said and sorry, your arguments lack of conviction to me. Sure he trained with Hiroki a lot, but he hasn't gotten any chance to prove himself(and he only did public battle simulation in front of other student when he had a low score). Yet, they put him into type 17 just because he trained with Hiroki and that's the "only frame" he can pilot, and Kunato had the right to feel hurt. I'm not saying Kunato is right or wrong.I never said he had the right to do what he did(beside doubting in Nagate's ability and using the type. Because Kunato earned recognition himself, he is the top student. If anyone has the right to pilot type 17, it is Kunato or the guy who died in the very first battle against the alien, cause they are the best and had proven themselves. Nagate was no body, only the higher up knew about his condition and the past. (Do you have reading problems?), but the actions he took were understandable. And Fai simply was trying to explain why Kunato did that. It's okay if you disagree with me or Fai cause each of us has different opinion and it's coincidence that Fai and me share the same point of view, meanwhile you don't. Have fun |
Takana_no_HanaMay 31, 2014 6:02 AM
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 someone else always have what you want, but it usually means nothing to them... |
Takana_no_Hana said: That's the problem there, if you take a look at the perspective of people on the ship, they have no idea who Nagate is and what he did to have such a special treatment from the higher officer. Of course they have no idea, I'm well aware of that. For some reason I forgot to mention this in my previous post. Takana_no_Hana said: Because Kunato earned recognition himself, he is the top student. That's what he says, when the adaptation/source material shows otherwise. Sure, he is skilled, but we all saw what he can do to get what he wants. Takana_no_Hana said: Nagate was no body, only the higher up knew about his condition and the past. (Do you have reading problems?), but the actions he took were understandable. And Fai simply was trying to explain why Kunato did that. His actions were understandable, but not justifiable. Also, as I said in my post on another thread: Onuma said: I am pretty sure that his motives are clearly visible for anyone to see. Takana_no_Hana said: Have fun There is no "fun" in wasting time like this. So I'll stop here. |
VeldarthMay 31, 2014 9:47 AM
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| Hoshijiro is creepy as all hell. This is going to sound like a dumb question but is Izana a clone of Yurie? |
| Woooooah that ep!!! Was so satisfying seeing Kunato like that, he must have been terrified and that makes me happy. Insane battle scenes though! Wondering what actually happened when Hoshijiro died and how exactly the Gaunas replicated her, guess we'll know more next ep! Also interesting to know what happened in the past, Hiro was so badass! That moment thought when Lala thought Tanikaze was actually Hiro..so sad! T^T All in all really good ep ! |
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TravSavage said: Hoshijiro is creepy as all hell. This is going to sound like a dumb question but is Izana a clone of Yurie? From what was explained... They are immortal clones (Lala, Kobeyashi, Hiro = Tanikaze) If i'm wrong then the explanation did not resonate however they do a really good job on telling the story. Everything makes sense down to the scientific level of Botany. |
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| Quite a bit of info, did Kobayashi have thing for Grandpa Hiro though? Hmm.. I still find that bear creepy as f***! |
sadfacelv said: I don't mind swords, but bows were totally out of place, where did all the firearms disappear?; Firearms aren't a good idea in space for two big reasons: 1) Black powder consumes oxygen in order to ignite, which is bad in any spaceship environment. 2) High-speed projectiles would either a) richochet wildly on a miss or b) possibly puncture a hole in the hull, which would be a Very Bad Thing. Kunato showed what a coward he was this episode; hopefully this will lead to suspicion about his role in Hoshijiro's death. Or he'll just panic the next time he sorties and will die. Another awesome episode with some great, brutal fight scenes. The Guana must be attempting to communicate with the Sidonia ... I wonder what the objective of the Guana is. It couldn't be just to exterminate humanity, otherwise they wouldn't have bothered taking on humanoid form. Unless they had studied us enough that they knew they'd have a psychological advantage. |
| So Tanikaze is a clone that they were gonna rip out his brain and put Hiro's brain in... I guess. Kinda hard to take a talking bear seriously... |
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Blind_Guardian said: sadfacelv said: Kunato showed what a coward he was this episode; hopefully this will lead to suspicion about his role in Hoshijiro's death. Or he'll just panic the next time he sorties and will die. Did not know that showing guilt for what you did is cowardice. But hey leave it to otaku weebo waifu defense force to twist the facts. |
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| I held it off for the last 3 Eps, but now I cant anymore. Rating goes from 9 to 10. |
Fai said: And the actual multiple factions of Sidonia are being established right now, the Captain is FINALLY shown in less than goodie-two-shoes light too. Definitely right steps in parts that they seriously messed up before this. I don't see how they portrayed her as being a goodie-two-shoes. If anything she's been shown as a manipulative, shady as fuck character. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Fai said: And the actual multiple factions of Sidonia are being established right now, the Captain is FINALLY shown in less than goodie-two-shoes light too. Definitely right steps in parts that they seriously messed up before this. I don't see how they portrayed her as being a goodie-two-shoes. If anything she's been shown as a manipulative, shady as fuck character. Let's just say that its not enough. |
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| Actually, up until last 2 episodes I thought captain IS a goody-two-shoes. She acted (or was portrayed like that) like she is protecting Tanikaze, giving him a chance to advance. Hell, even her meeting with council looked like they want to kill him and she wants to protect him. Did she look shady? Yes. Evil? Not really. After this episode though... |
| I don't think she actually is meant to be seen as evil though. Just doing what she sees is the best for Sidonia. Doesn't mean her actions aren't sus though. |
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| A more for harem Tanikaze? hahahaha Great flashback, but half too fast ... |
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| Good job Tanikaze, finally you have an alien in your harem. |
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| Seeing "Hoshijiro" again is too painful, I've just been waiting for Kunato's death (which better happen). Never forget |
| Don't understand how anyone could support Kunato at all after all the shit he's done. So what if he worked hard to get where he was, so what if he thinks that he deserves to pilot Tanikaze's mech? You achieve what you achieve by the things you accomplish. No in the past 100 years had piloted Nagate's mech. How the hell would anyone know if one person is better than the other at it? The way I see it, Nagate had no choice but to take that mech because he had never learned to pilot the version 18. Plus, the 18 was suppose to be the advanced model, so the only advantage that anyone could get piloting the 17 would supposedly be the status of piloting a former "Hero's Mech". The way I see it, Kunato was in it for the glory and the status, nothing more. Then to go all ape-shit over not getting it to the extent that he tries defaming Nagate during an actual mission, at the expense of his fellow squadron mates, the mission and ALMOST the entire Sidonia. Seriously, there should be no penance for the crap that he pulled. He gets assuaged by guilt, yes, and that causes him to mentally break down in the middle of another battle and leads to the death of yet more of his own squad mates (poor Honoka! >:( ). Seriously, just because you work hard and don't get what YOU deem to be your just rewards, doesn't give you the right to pull the world down the same destructive path you are on. If someone takes the spotlight, you find out where you're lacking and you work harder to better the other guy, you do what it takes to claim your just rewards through even more hard work and dedication. You're a teenager for Christ sake, you have all the time in the world to catch up and overtake. You don't go all sub-human and try to kill off the rest of your own team just to make one person look bad. The sooner they court marshal his arse, the better. Anyone who actually sympathizes with this idiot really needs to take a look at the bigger picture. If we all started throwing nukes around just because someone accidentally stepped on our shoes, we'd already be extinct by now. He's suppose to be the smart and accomplished one in this series? I don't see it at all. If he was smart, then he should have thought of all the consequences before he set his stupid little plan in motion. It's because of these characteristics of his that make his so called "remorse" hollow, false and pointless. Not just Hoshijirou, I hope ALL the pilots that died because of his stupid actions haunt him for the rest of his very short life. That said, the rest of the episode was damn fun to watch. I loved the interaction that Lala had with Hiro, and Izuna getting nearly tossed out the window. Knew from the get-go that the Captain was shady. She's a puppet being controlled by the immortal council, its not like she can really do anything to defy them (at least not from what I've seen). That scene where Hiro was cradling Nagate in a pouch fending off the swordsmen and archers really reminded me of those old age Kurosawa Samurai films. They even got the stances and the movements spot on too! Freaking epic! I can't wait to see what happens next. The faint hope that Hoshijiro can be extracted from the Gauna is a pipe dream, but then again I blame Kunato for that. Question: does the Benisuzume Hoshijiro actually look like that in the manga? I remember someone saying something about a just wondering because the person mentioning said it was kinda disgusting. |
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| 5/5 Great episode. Here's the smell of conspiracy, as in the times we live in, a black shadow lurks and hides in our ordinary lives. Fabulous plot and narrative, this series deserves more than a series. Addictive! I look forward to the next episode, too interesting, too bad it has not known before the master Nihei. |
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| DAMN! What an amazing episode. Amazing sci-fi. Amazing plot direction. I loved the end part as well. Also, this is one of the few mechas I don't get bored by the action (can't say the same about Captain Earth or Code Geass) I liked the flashbacks too. It was very interesting. My non-sports AOTS for sure, and possibly AOTY (compared to shitty Winter) |
| What the hell was going on with Kunato??? How DARE he act like that. I don't even know why he's reacting as if it's a real shock to him. Or am I missing something? Someone care to explain to me what the whole purpose of Kunato giving an early detonation signal to Tanikaze? Tanikaze indeed detonated ahead of everyone else because of Kunato's signal, but what's the purpose of him telling Tanikaze to do so? What's the connection between his early signal and his hyperventilation in this ep? Why did he sound like he was shocked as if Hoshijiro was his lover and it fucked him up in the head seeing his "lover" "alive" and talking? Other than that, I was absolutely dumbfounded, astounded, aghast, to see that frame rate when Hiroki was surrounded. Why couldn't they do that for every episode (stupid question I know)? But even just to upgrade it to a standard of 2fps they were not able to do? Man, fuck. 3fps is just absolutely wrong for 3DCGI. The lowest framerate they should ever reach is 2fps. |
zetsu_shorenJun 2, 2014 9:41 AM
zetsu_shoren said: What the hell was going on with Kunato??? How DARE he act like that. I don't even know why he's reacting as if it's a real shock to him. Or am I missing something? Someone care to explain to me what the whole purpose of Kunato giving an early detonation signal to Tanikaze? Tanikaze indeed detonated ahead of everyone else because of Kunato's signal, but what's the purpose of him telling Tanikaze to do so? What's the connection between his early signal and his hyperventilation in this ep? Why did he sound like he was shocked as if Hoshijiro was his lover and it fucked him up in the head seeing his "lover" "alive" and talking? Kunato loved Hoshijiro. He did not intend nor expect her to get hurt. He only expected to humiliate Tanikaze and showcase that he is not ready for fieldwork(since Tanikaze basically jumped ranks for Council's PR and Kunato saw it as undeserving and as an insult to the fact that Kunato achieved what he did by himself). He did not expect Tanikaze to freeze up and Hoshijiro to die saving him So he feels guilty and awful. |
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| Wow, this flashback felt so good. I can't remember the last time an anime has been so full. Most of the animes lately are really straightforward and rarely care revolve around more than 1-2 things at once. While Sidonia no Kishi has great action, heavy backstory, good characters, atmosphere and much more put into the mix. It has just so much more about it that I feel the 12-episode cap is really uncalled for. |
MeritasJun 3, 2014 3:56 AM
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| Man, Kunato could only be more of a "quintessential bad guy" if he had a top had and a long moustache. In fact, I feel sorry for him. It's not his fault; it's just bad character realisation. I understand that every story needs a "bad guy" (not true the slightest, but I'll leave it at that), but Kunato, oh KU-NA-TO! Comes from some prestigious family and is talented? Check! Hates some nobody (MC-kun) whom he thinks is beneath him? Check! Gets jealous when said nobody outperforms him in a real situation? Check! Sabotages nobody-kun ('cos hatred more important than Sidonia right?), acts like he did the right thing, then becomes useless later while nobody-kun gets to look cool? Check, check and CHECK! Goddammit Kunato, you win the "Least Effort to Try and Deviate from your Character Stereotype Award"! A round of applause for him! Clap clap clap pachi pachi pachi clapachi clapachi!!! |
| hmm they changed Kunato's character i think, in the manga he does not really care about such things, could this mean the anime will get an original ending? |
klaymore said: hmm they changed Kunato's character i think, in the manga he does not really care about such things, could this mean the anime will get an original ending? What the fuck are you talking about? Anime made him MORE of a badguy than in manga. In manga he is a jerk and a bully but not as much of "muhaha" villain. |
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| This fucking show is O_O word can't explain that ep Nice to find out where Tanikaze came from though |
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| Mmm, a lot of mystery around Hoshijiro death. If she's dead of course :P It's really confusing... A good kind of confusion though, the one that you don't feel fooled, just that you and they don't know yet enough. Interesting to learn Tanikaze, Hiro and Lala past. Also, it's kinda funny that Izana and Tanikaze are a ''future'' couple - that's only speculation but it sure look like it ;) - when Hiro took her mom (or her grandmother?) in hostage :P Fucking Kunato, what a piece of trash of a leader. Go piss your pants and die already, you little shit. Fight was really great and intense. Really love the action scene in Knight of Sidonia. It really surprise me since the first episode didn't gave me a good impression and now it's in the top show of the season, even not of the year. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| 06:50 dat humancup 14:01 Kiritsugu!! 15:35 tears 20:08 doryaaaa 22:13 Hoshijiro!!! 8.5/10 for this ep. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
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