Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi Episode 1 Discussion
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Loved this movie, don't think I doubted it at all during the entire film
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I am always the first one who talks about flaws in this movie and I still keep my opinion about the ending; I don't like how Miyazaki resolves the plot, it is still, no matter the way I look at it, too rushed and devoid of the inspirational tone of the rest.
With that said, I guess it is difficult to understand why do I still consider it my second favorite anime of all time. Spirited away is simply one of the most engrossing, imaginative and overall fascinating movies I have ever seen. It is a prodigy of imagination like I have never seen, before nor after, and holds so many details that in rewatch I enjoy to analyze, theorize about and put together in the plot; it shows a world of characters and little stories that far exceed the first view in complexity and cohesion (in my opinion), and the movie overall feels like the most personal declaration of principles of Miyazaki, a work whose symbolic and philosophical meanings could be discussed endlessly.
In addition to this, it has the best of the Studio Ghibli in terms of visual wonder, music (I think this, and not Princess Mononoke, is the best track from Hisaishi) and animation. This work is aesthetically, maybe the best, well no, scratch that, the BEST I have ever seen in animation. It has a level of detail, not only in the backgrounds, but in the character design, the gestures, the reactions, every single thing is wonderfully meticulous and at the same time leaves a feeling of naturalness that makes it even better. For example, one of my favorite scenes in the whole film involves something as dull and uninteresting as Chihiro walking with her parents, but the way is it depicted, how she gets left behind and has to take a run-up to reach them, and how this is repeated again, reinforcing this little and insignificant gesture, The care put into drawing these details, that most authors would dismiss as irrelevant, is one of my favorite things Ghibli usually does and in this movie it is optimized to a level that becomes incredible.
10/10. Despite the ending complaints, which become minor in comparison with the rest of the work, this is one of the most beautiful, complex and inspirating movies I have ever seen.
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Love it, but could be much better.
Especially towards the end, the scenes seemed rushed and incomplete.
Noface (The guy with the mask) stopped chasing Chihiro after he became thin again. And somehow his voice was not explained well. Maybe it was the frog's voice it took over.
Chihiro said she wanted to help Haku, but it wasn't clear why she made the trip to the twin sister. As in what she hoped the twin sister would exactly do. Anyways, the twin sister couldn't do anything anyways. There was something said about rules interfering but.... not specified. The bug on the seal was also a bit not explained enough, about it controlling Haku.
The rules for Chihiro to go home with her parents were never mentioned before, and the contract Chihiro had signed should be a work contract, not a return home contract, so why is Babaa holding the contract?
Finally, Haku's story seems incomplete. Which in turn makes the whole movie seem incomplete.
Well, the movie is mostly good though. 9/10.
I know that this is probably too late for you to ever see this, but I'm going to try to clear these misconceptions up in case anyone else who comes to this thread has the same questions.
I thought No Face's intentions were quite clear. "I think being in the bathhouse makes him crazy," Chihiro says when she's with Lin, paddling toward the station. No Face is fascinating because he takes on the feelings and the attitude of the people that he's around. That's why in the bathhouse he got greedy (alike everyone there) and self righteous. When he got away from the bathhouse, No Face's demeanor switched, thus making him have no intention to rampantly chase down Chihiro. As for his voice, I thought it was obvious that he was borrowing his voice from the toad. He only gained a voice when he consumed him, and it was the same voice actor.
Once again, I thought her intentions when she went to see Zeniba were clear as day. Chihiro was under the impression that Zeniba put a terrible curse on Haku because he stole her gold seal. She went to return the seal and apologize for Haku's actions, so that in return she would lift the curse. Obviously that's not how things were, but that's why she went. I think it's explained in the scene where Chihiro is talking to Kimaji.
Yubaba essentially owned Chihiro, thus making her unable to return home. That's why she was holding the contract.
It would be nice to have a little bit more on Haku's back story, but the movie was already passed 2h's long, so it's fine without imo. Kimaji explains to Chihiro -- right before she leaves -- how Haku got into Yubaba's hands. If anything, in the English dub they should have explained the relevance of the spirits and Gods. I don't really think they should have, because it would have taken away from the movie & I have no idea where they'd fit that in, but what people have to understand when watching this movie is that a lot of Japanese people believe that everything has a God. So you see that radish over there? It's got a God. You see that forest? It's got a God. You see that river? It's got a God. So basically Haku was the God of the Kohaku River. That's why he knew Chihiro, blah, blah, and the rest is history. So even though I thought that it'd be nice to have a little bit more of an understanding on Haku, I think they explained his character well enough.
"It's just...a bad dream! Wake up, wake up...!"
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Ah.. one of my favorite movies. I used to watch it all the time as a child.
This was always my reaction to the ending:
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You know there is a lot more to this film than some think. Ever wonder: will Haku and Chihiro ever meet again? Well, it's open to interpretation, but I believe it's answered in the first line of the film: http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ll62c7uic81qcukx1o1_500.png
There are a lot of small details people overlook, this movie is magnificently crafted. It will always remain one of my favorite anime films.
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I was having trouble streaming this movie in 1080p, even though my laptop is pretty new and my internet is 10 mbps. Still had some problems in 720p, but it was alright. From now on, if I am going to watch an Anime movie, I will download it instead of stream!! I will only stream Anime TV series.
Anyway, this is my very first Hayao Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli movie. I have known them both for a long time already and heard a lot of good things about them, but I only watched them now.
Just like what they say, this movie is just beautiful. It's just beautiful. I usually comment many things, but if I do that now, this post will be very long.
Now, I understand why many people likes and praises Hayao Miyazaki. Dude is imaginative and magical. Props to Studio Ghibli for the wonderful animation. I like the song, too~
I would have loved this so much if I watched this back when I was a kid. Who knows, maybe I did and just don't remember. Beautiful movie, indeed <3
Well, I should watch Grave of the Fireflies next :)) I haven't download it, yet. So, Grave of the Fireflies will be the last Anime movie I will stream. Let's go. Thank you ^^