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Mar 19, 2017 12:41 PM

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The foreshadowing of either Orga's or Mika's death was strong in this one. It was really just a matter of who. I really wanted to believe it wasn't going to happen because we're finally at the end of all of this and maybe the dynamic of things might change. But no; Orphans stays true to its strict rules of killing off its characters. (Iok is excused due to his plot armor. :( )

Once I saw Orga walk out, I immediately thought about Lafter (which was honestly the most surprising death in my opinion) and just knew that the same thing would happen to him.

Why do they do this??? They make you dread finishing each death-pisode with their obnoxious foreshadowing!
Mar 19, 2017 12:44 PM

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Maddening episode and after maddening episode. Edge of my seat now.
Mar 19, 2017 12:47 PM

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Farabeuf said:

The last 6 or 7 episodes have turned this from being the premier action series this season into an exercise in masochism.


What a perfect summation of how I feel about S2. Good lord.
Mar 19, 2017 12:52 PM

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Orga death is underwhelming since it's exact same way as Lafter
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Mar 19, 2017 12:59 PM

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Oh boy this will divide people no doubt, I personally actually found this episode relieved alot of my worries for how the series will end and while i would of preferred a more traditional finale do think the show can work out this way. That said I really like orga's death, its really low key and not heroic in the slightest much like shino and lafter's death. I think ibo avoids alot of war dramas faults of overglorifying violence which ibo actually was kind of on the verge of doing at a few points, but this 2nd season if anything has shined nothing but a negative light on combat and how things dont always work out.

I wouldnt say this death was shock value like some claim though, if any death is that its lafter, this feels more just how the show is solidifying a war in the pocket esque ending as in its a botched plan and the repercussions that follow. I do wish there were more episodes left though as I still feel like this could of been much better had it happened 5 or 6 episodes ago.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Mar 19, 2017 1:09 PM

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My sibling and I knew it was coming a few seconds beforehand and we still weren't prepared. The episode was called "Promise" but it should have been called "Death flag" instead. I am beyond pissed that Iok lived once again while Orga died by a drive-by shooting. His words at the end hit hard though. I hope Mika will hear what he said.



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Mar 19, 2017 1:14 PM
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I can't believe Orga died! The goons that killed Orga were conspiring with McGillis because he knows Mika was following him. To make Mika follow him, McGillis had contacted Nobliss Gordon to kill Orga. It should've been Ride that died, not Orga. And I can't believe Azee wearing a white suit, being leader of Turbines. I don't believe in gender equality.
Mar 19, 2017 1:17 PM
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Finally Mika is free , he is not a tool anymore , the only good thing from this season is the threesome , if naze had harem why mika cant have both girls ?
Mar 19, 2017 1:22 PM

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xeco said:
Finally Mika is free , he is not a tool anymore , the only good thing from this season is the threesome , if naze had harem why mika cant have both girls ?
because he will die soon
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Mar 19, 2017 1:24 PM

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Summary time!

Is Iok still alive after all that? Can't even get a suicide provocation right lol. Will he end up surviving the series, to the ire of every fan watching? Still, Bael is good looking in action.

Pretty good plan by Orga, all the pieces falling into place. New identities, escape tunnel, a way off Mars. Good to see Azee up and about again.

RIP Orga, my man. It was never going to work out.
Pretty sure McGillis is behind this hit. Or at least it wasn't Rustal. Either way I thought it was suspect when McGillis said "Farewell Tekkadan" as he turned his face away from the screen. Then his monologue about not being like Mika, and his breaking away from Tekkadan.
If this was Rustal's doing he'd have ordered a swat team and press to surround them. No need for a secret hit squad; he wanted the death of Tekkadan broadcast in plain daylight after all.
EDIT: After reading comments, yeah likely to be Gordon Nobliss' men. Not discounting the possibillity that McGillis is involved however ;P
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Mar 19, 2017 1:24 PM

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SepMishimaa said:
The foreshadowing of either Orga's or Mika's death was strong in this one. It was really just a matter of who. I really wanted to believe it wasn't going to happen because we're finally at the end of all of this and maybe the dynamic of things might change. But no; Orphans stays true to its strict rules of killing off its characters. (Iok is excused due to his plot armor. :( )

Once I saw Orga walk out, I immediately thought about Lafter (which was honestly the most surprising death in my opinion) and just knew that the same thing would happen to him.

Why do they do this??? They make you dread finishing each death-pisode with their obnoxious foreshadowing!


It just felt like a set up to grant Mika a reason to go berserk in the up coming episodes.

I thought they would eliminate Mika's character at the end of the season, didn't seem like there was a reason for Orga to go too.
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Mar 19, 2017 1:35 PM

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Edrinn said:

Also McGillis never used underhand method, even when killing Gaelio he went to kill him himself (not like Elion rustal), it would have been out of character for him to do that.


He literally used Tekkadan to get rid of Carta Issue in the first season. It would not at all be out of character for him to send men for a hit, or get Gordon or someone to do it for him.
Mar 19, 2017 1:37 PM

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*Orga see's hope and a chance to turn things around
Me: oh fck.... another death flag...
*See's one member waiting outside out in the open
Me: oh no... oh noooo.
*Orga tells Kudelia to make her dreams come true
Me: this is bad... stop it
*Orga slowly walking down the hall saying stuffs and looks positive
Me: he's gonna die.... stop walking!
*they turn around and see a car stopping
Me: ok here we go, I told yah stop walkin.

Iok is fcking immortal tho, how can 1 character be this fcking lucky!?
and Mika.... embracing the harem.... it looks so bad.
Atra kisses Mika
Me: Why'd you have to do that infront of Kudelia? to suck it up?
Kudelia kisses Mika
Me: ....Wait.. what the? that is disgusting! STOP!

Ok I've watched too much shows. Its sleepin time!

Weird but I didnt feel shit when Orga died, nor with his grand speech before biting the dust, I felt pissed with Lafter dying tho.
Mar 19, 2017 1:57 PM

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OMG didnt think he would die before the end of this.
Mar 19, 2017 2:13 PM

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FCK THIS!! WHY ORGA GODDAMMIT!! Friggin everybody is dying and Iok is still alive?? WTH seriously!!

I knew it was a death flag the moment Orga borrowed Mika's gun!! why?! please don't die on us Orga!! orz

also next episode preview when Mika says that he'll ask Orga for the baby's name when he comes back.. ugh TT_TT
Mar 19, 2017 2:17 PM
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Wow, this episode blew me out of the water. Orga is dead. I'm not even mad, that's just fuckin' incredible. Let's face it, it was gonna happen sooner or later. Iron-Blooded Orphans has killed characters left and right, and with Orga biting it the viewers finally understand no one is safe. Star Wars, The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones are killing major characters previously thought to be untouchable, why should Gundam be any different? Sure, people are gonna be upset for days and will probably rush to their keyboards and fix what happen here. But they should probably think about it for a second. This is a show that has dealt with the brutal realities of war, one of those realities is victory through sacrifice. Ceres Wunderkind once said "A sacrifice has to be complete and irreversible if it is to have any meaning." Now, as the final two episodes are on the horizon, we wonder: who is next?
Mar 19, 2017 2:19 PM

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"I'm the boss of Tekkadan. Orga Itsuka. This is nothing to me. Protecting my members is my job. Shut up and let's go. Everyone's waiting. Besides...I finally understand, Mika. We don't need any destinations. We Just need to keep moving forward. As long as we don't stop, the road will continue. I know. I'm not stopping. As long as you all don't stop, I'll be at the end waiting for you. So hear me well. Don't you ever stop." - Orga Itsuka, Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans.

This speech will sit with me for a long time. I actually have rewatched this scene at least 6 times now and I'm still heart broken at what happened. RIP Orga, you were definitely one of my favorite characters and the spirit of Tekkadan itself ;_;
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Mar 19, 2017 2:22 PM

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The Gundam: IBO formula works again:

- Create good and bad characters
- In the moment you need to raise the stakes, select one character to kill
- Selecting the bad characters is too dumb so give them heavy plot armor
- Now select a good character
- RAISE YOUR (DEATH) FLAAAAAAG!!!!!!!
- Put the budget in his death scene
- Take the story and the characters into RAGE MODE
- PROFIT
Mar 19, 2017 2:46 PM
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Sooooo Mika's going to go freaking nuts in the next episodes. I'll look forward to see him truly going berserk.....I almost feel bad for Rustal, but not really. Mika's first victim will probably be Iok, since the bastard seems to be alive only for the most glorious of kills to happen
Mar 19, 2017 3:03 PM
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HeroVladimir93 said:
with Orga biting it the viewers finally understand no one is safe.


Well... yeah. As if previous deaths didn't give that message already (along with previous Gundum shows)? Biscuit was a major character and he died. Shino was another major character and he died. Lafter suddenly gets killed out of nowhere, and she, along with Amida (who also died) and Azee are a couple of the most focused women of the Turbines. Naze was a major character who also got killed.
Mar 19, 2017 3:04 PM

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Its so obvious McGillis did this so that mikazuki will join him. Best episode of the season, i don't why some idiots say its bad because a character died. This is what brings it to an end. I can't beleive people thought he would still be alive after this.
Mar 19, 2017 3:23 PM

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Only three words describe this episode:

Feels. Bad. Man.
Mar 19, 2017 3:28 PM

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I knew Orga was going to die as soon as he stepped outside that door. Too many death flags was being thrown so it was only a matter of when. Mika will also most likely die in a berserk fight with Rustal and Arianhord.
Mar 19, 2017 3:41 PM

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orgaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa noooooooooooooo
why the hell have to die orga????nooooooooooooooo!!!!
Mar 19, 2017 3:51 PM

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rioplats said:
Edrinn said:

Also McGillis never used underhand method, even when killing Gaelio he went to kill him himself (not like Elion rustal), it would have been out of character for him to do that.


He literally used Tekkadan to get rid of Carta Issue in the first season. It would not at all be out of character for him to send men for a hit, or get Gordon or someone to do it for him.


He didn't ask Tekedan to assasinate Carta, the only thing he did is to point out where tekedan is to Carta and she went there to fight because she believe that Tekedan escaping her troop tainted her "honor".

He did manipulated her, but he didn't used underhand method like having your spy infiltrate your enemies and use forbidden weapons so that it will become legal for you to use it against them, have a maid monitoring every activity of someone, have a spy creating a civil war in order to get ride of an organisation etc...

If McGillis did have used such method, i believe he wouldn't be in this crappy situation to begin with, and also don't forget he believe in "Authority, Might and Force", that the main reason he went to get the Gundam Bael, because he thought that since Bael is the embodiment of those, Gjallarhorn would have kneel before him. And not having all of them against him.

I'm not saying that what i said about him is 100% truth and that your vision of it is wrong, since we're speculating about it. But i believe that he is better than this and that he wasn't lying about getting ride of Gjallarhorn corruption.

But if it turn out he was another "Rustall" and that it was his doing for Orga assassination, i'll go cry a river in a corner, and lose hope in gundam ibo ending.
Mar 19, 2017 4:00 PM
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Dajoeman said:
Its so obvious McGillis did this so that mikazuki will join him.


No, I highly doubt he's behind this. Not completely sure, but I highly doubt it.

I agree with this:

Z4k said:

What? Those people shooting at Orga were Nobliss Gordon's men.

Mar 19, 2017 4:23 PM

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I was going to postpone watching the show but when I saw 113 + comments I knew something important happened and boy something really big really occurred...

Damn, it was Orga turn to go ahead of the guys... I not going to pretend that he was an angel but he did things trying to protect his family and he died doing the same... R.I.P.

Glad to see Azee & Turbine members doing well. It is sad that their help for some of Tekkadan guys would not come in time (I think most of them are going to choose to fight now [avenge Orga] and die in the process, part of sleaze-ball Rastall plan like the time Tekkadan choose to fight when Naze, Amida & Lafter died...

Talking about this motherf*cker, Rastall is rotten to the core... but he is dumb as f*ck he killed the owner of a rabid dog, he technically unleashed the leash on Mika, he better be prepared to pay with his life the only thing that maybe is going to hold back Mika is his relationship with his child (I think he wants to see his child grow and possibly have more thus a big family) but other than that he is going to go on a rampage on Gjallarhorn Rastall faction... Better prepare that lube!
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Mar 19, 2017 4:28 PM

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Orga's death is literally the most retarded thing this series has ever done.

That was probably the most WTF death in the entire series, half of me made me go fuck and the other half laughed my ass off.

Its like the writer wants to kill off everyone in the main cast but doesn't know how to write it properly, though Shino's death was fucking brilliant.

And Iok surviving again?

Jesus fuck that's so cancer.
Mar 19, 2017 4:28 PM

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Welp it's official, this show has gone to shit. Like what the fuck? This is basically a series of rushed character killings just so the series can have a conclusive end and not go over the typical episode count for most gundam shows. Yep, I'm just gonna mentally check out and watch how this derailed train wrecks itself in the end.
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Mar 19, 2017 5:03 PM

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Another random death like Lafter, I'm a little disappointed about how they handle the deaths. It's very obvious through death flags or very random.
Mar 19, 2017 5:31 PM
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This episode was awesome. It sucked that they killed off Orga, but they had to. He had his story arc. Now's the time to let Mika out of the cage and see what a person he really is - and I don't mean it in some "he's gonna be pissed off and badass while killing the bad guys" kind of way. No. HE. WILL. HAVE. TO. CHANGE. To survive. To live.

I love this show SOOOO much!!!
Mar 19, 2017 5:39 PM
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I practically LOL-ing at everyone who claimed that IBO has turned to shit just because protags died left and right and the antagonist have their winning stride thanks to both superior resources and cunning planning by Rustal.

Have you never seen good gangster and crime movies before that IBO followed? The Godfather? Scarface? Goodfellas? Road to Perdition? In Cold Blood? Watch them and come back to IBO to understand what the writer is going for here. Even though they will probably make the ending less gruesome compared to those gangster movies since IBO is still a Gundam show for teenagers and young-adults.

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it's also kinda generic to see a typical drive by killing off characters instead of the bombings and such in earlier episodes.
Why use bombs if cheaper bullets can do the job just fine? I like how pragmatic the villains in IBO are. They only use the "big guns" only when it's really necessary instead of being larger-than-life James Bond villains who make "fireworks" out of everything.
Mar 19, 2017 5:52 PM
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@All the nay-sayers

Do you even know how lives end? In 99,99 % of cases they end abruptly, without the person dying choosing to die or prepare for it. 99,99 % of those who die knowing they will, or that are concious while dying, probably don't want to accept it. This is reality and this show does a hella great thing portraying it that way. For example - I loved the scene where Aston died. He regreted it and he hated it. He didn't want to die and hated that he regrets not living his life to the fullest.
Mar 19, 2017 6:10 PM

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Right in the kororo. Damn.

I must admit that while i was imagining lots of tekkadan/important people to die i didnt even give any thought to it being Orga. I'm so sad.

And i cannot believe bloody idIOK is still alive. what the fucking hell. MCGILLIS YOU HAD ONE DAMN JOB. ONE!
Mar 19, 2017 6:27 PM

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Knew it. I knew that he was gonna die. The signs were there in this episode. Didn't think he was gonna die like Lafter. though. That's pretty disappointing. Shino had a much better death. I'm just saying.

And I now officially think that Iok is immortal. He cannot die no matter what he takes and how much anyone wants him to. lmao
Mar 19, 2017 6:42 PM

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Man i hate noticing death flags i'm still shocked that it happened before the finale though Lafter hit me harder but this was real close out right assassinations are messed up.

Fareed was great i wonder if he foresaw the events happening and that was his reasoning behind saying their plan works out for him since with Orga gone Mika will fight freely
Mar 19, 2017 6:43 PM
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I was not shocked by this seeing how this episode paned out.

Specially the fact that they were trying to escape everything. Thats not how gundams should be.

Now Mika will just go and slaughter everything. He might die as well. But Gallarhorn for sure will fall because of this. That nobliss gordon too.

2 episodes might be short do it all though
Mar 19, 2017 6:46 PM
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I have expected Orga to die since first season but even after all the death flags i was a bit surprised too see it happen this episode, expected it to be in the next one or maybe in the finale; in any case it´s a shame that he died before getting Tekkadan to safety, good thing he didn´t die while regretting that but rather was saying hopeful things.

I totally want Mika to know of what happened while in battle, the following destruction would be something to remember (unless he loses his drive or something like that, i hope it´s not the case).
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Mar 19, 2017 6:54 PM

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Orga dies and that shit stain Iok still lives? I mean I saw Orga's coming since season 1 cause he was Kamina 2.0, but still he dies and not Iok? This is pure bullshit. The way he died was bullshit too I was hoping it would be him going down with the ship like a badass in the midst of the final battle, but nope SHOT IN THE FUCKING STREETS LIKE A DOG LIKE MY GURL LAFTER. FUCK YOU.

Meh I still am enjoying this season, but its not as good as the first one. This is just a messy trainwreck from beginning to end especially after they joined Mcgillis.
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Mar 19, 2017 7:04 PM

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rioplats said:
RIP Orga, my man. It was never going to work out.


XDDD

This is cruel, but true. Tbh I'm used to this sort of thing coming from him now (Tekkedan too, but usually him. Poor guy can't catch a break. Now he suddenly dies. lol).
Mar 19, 2017 7:18 PM

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What the FUCK! I kinda sorta expected this but not like this. Not like this!

Mika is going to murder. Nothing will survive.

Orga goes out like a true hero. Protecting, realistically, an average member of his team because he is simply a member of his family.

Still...I expected a more grandiose way of Orga checking out but maybe this was a more poetic way given what I said just above. Some of the character deaths have been a little conveniently inserted instead of perfectly placed which does kinda sour the whole experience.

And yet.....Iok is still fucking alive.
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Hmm. Guys, if you are trying to sneak away undetected, maybe NOT wearing jackets with giant Tekkadan emblems on the back might be a good first step....
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Mar 19, 2017 7:30 PM

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As they were walking outside I was just waiting for something to happen. With all peaceful talks and them saying how quiet it is made it SUPER obvious lol. Still sad though.
Mar 19, 2017 7:57 PM
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I don't know if this has been confirmed or not, but the wiki said, Orga is "Presumably Dead". For those hitmen, it's either nobliss who hired them or McGillis who is trying to use Mika to the death. This episode is too smooth and already discomfort me, Orga will possibly live...but if he's dead, then the ending will be either all Tekkadan members wiped out or the MS Pilots sacrifice their lives to save the ones inside the tunnel so that they can escape.
Mar 19, 2017 8:45 PM

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I have the feeling the one that shot Orga is Mcgillis' men, after all he is the only one that knows where, and when orga is going... Not even Rustal knows. The timing is just too perfect. OR it could be because they are so stupid that they keep wearing that TEKKADAN jacket in the open even though their are being pursued
Mar 19, 2017 9:06 PM
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why you do this ;_;
Mar 19, 2017 9:32 PM

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I'm speechless...
Can't believe this happened...
I have a slight feeling that McGillis ordered his death.
Glad that someone is taking care of the rest of the Turbines, you did a great job Azee, Naze would be proud of you. Those girls definitely deserve that <3

R.I.P Orga <3
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Mar 19, 2017 10:02 PM

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Welp. I already knew it was going to be like this. As expected of Okada the writers. Let's just get this over with. I want to know how they'll write a Mika without an Orga. Too bad it took this long.. don't want to raise my expectations though lol.

Rip Orga. I felt nothing ;w;
Mar 19, 2017 11:44 PM

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To be honest, after the whole Lafter ordeal, Orga dying isn't as surprising. I meant, deserted town, while a major military operation happening next door = Perfect assassination setting. I'm willing to bet the one behind this is that rich fatass old man Gordon. Fucking always hated his guts.

Well, hot damn. Sad to see Orga gone. Wonder what's next? To be honest, I would've preferred an all-out ending, where they went and faced off against that army.
But running away and living under cover instead? Where's the sense of having watched something awesome. Sigh.
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Top_Sergeant said:
Hmm. Guys, if you are trying to sneak away undetected, maybe NOT wearing jackets with giant Tekkadan emblems on the back might be a good first step....


einschlx said:
Rip Orga. I felt nothing ;w;


xDDD

These comments never cease to humor me. Not that I am blaming you guys for feeling this way.

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