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Dec 4, 2016 12:25 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Not much action this episode but I think the buildup is worth it. Considering that Tekkadan needs to build their future and on their move now.

McGillis is a clever man so working with him could work out for Tekkadan. We should be seeing a bit of action soon with Orga and the others being confronted. Damn it, cliffhanger. I hope McGillis knows what he's doing as they are defenseless. Machines are scary.
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The ending alone made that all worth it.

So all this time we've been worrying about Rustal and Teiwaz, but actually it's the MACHINES that we have to look out for.

It seems MSs were created specifically to combat MAs which don't have pilots but instead run by AI.

And they introduced beam weapons here with the gigantic Hashmal unit. This is going to be interesting.
 
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Mobile Armors are the Skynet alright... technology going berserk and turning on its creators. They were what put the human race on the brink of extinction and what Mobiles suits fought against to end the Calamity war. Emotionless AI that has no qualms whatsoever about destroying cities and killing millions. McGillis specifically asked Orga not to take any Mobile suits to escort them to the mine, but that fool Kujan went and activated the one Tekkadan found anyway. And now McGillis and Orga's group is defenseless, with no way to call reinforcements because LCS comms are out of range, with a Mobile Armor on a rampage.
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iok fucked up again lol
that mobile armor like final boss of AGE
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Wow, this episode. That ending. We fighting AI now.

Lot of revelations about the past calamity war, Mobile Armor, Order of the Seven Stars, The reasoning behind the creation of Mobile Suits. Wonder if Humanity succeeded in creating an Artificial Super Intelligence back during the calamity War. I don't see why they would create such machines themselves, Rogue AI wishing for human extinction seems much more likely.

Damn, Kujan stepped into the range of the Mobile armor despite Fareed telling him not to and now they've awoken it. That awakening scene gave me chills.

Maybe the base can send out reinforcements of their own accord, After hearing Saisei's incident. They might send out Barbatos alone just as a precaution. If not, Hopefully Kujan can deal with this beast(machine).
 
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Oh look beam weapon.



What a fuken cliffhanger
 
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Iok just started Second Calamity War.
 
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So those Mobile Armours were... AI consisting of human minds made with experiments, or simply AI made to fight? The latter seems not drastic enough. Things are escalating twice as fast.
 
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leaked information, a mobile armor got activated because of Iok's stupidity. I hope he got destroyed by that mobile armor.

There is little action and I hope I can see Mikazuki in action again, seeing him fight in the barbatos is never boring. also the information about the use of mobile armor in the calamity era is really scary. a machine that can activate itself when it senses a mobile suit and a machine that can kill lots of people.

Hope they can take care every last of the mobile armor soon, really looking forward to the next episode
 
Dec 4, 2016 4:49 AM

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They surely build things to last. It was lying around for 300 years ...

Even though, I need to wonder why McGillis & Orga group didn't experienced any tremors when huge machine raised and starts blasting everything. Lazy animation.

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leaked information, a mobile armor got activated because of Iok's stupidity. I hope he got destroyed by that mobile armor.

To be fair, he probably didn't have slightest idea how Mobile Armor works and most likely didn't know it is completely autonomous sleeping AI that might activate any time all of the sudden. Honestly, what were the chances it would? He probably thought he will bring some firepower, keep blasting the dead, immobile wreck and get promotion out of it, because that's how it was explained to him. Considering Galladhorn chronic backstabbing disorder within their ranks, it is very likely Iok wasn't told everything (while being stupid enough to not ask)
 
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The zhite has hit the proverbial fan. This is an interesting battle royale that's building up.
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Dec 4, 2016 6:00 AM

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Holy shit that ending was worth it.
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Dec 4, 2016 6:46 AM

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That Mobile Worker rising from the earth reminded me of Metal Gear Ray.
“Oooh, let us give praise to God. His name is Artillery! That is what he is to me right now. Truly, such a wondrous sound! Our prayers, given in the form of radio petition, God has answered them!”

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Dec 4, 2016 6:48 AM

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Kujan is really gonna die a fool.
Awaiting for Barbatos!
 
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Iok you really should study and think before you act.
 
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That mobile armor was surprisingly still operational under that crater after centuries and what a surprise, it has the one thing missing from this Gundam installment, a beam weapon. It reminds me of Armored Core and how poorly handled some of the lost technology was in that franchise.


 
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Iok, what have you done? That's gonna suck.
 
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Seriously. Fuck Kyouko. Manipulative bitch. How could you expect hospitality from someone after molesting them? I feel so uncomfortable for him.
Lmaooo, what are you even talking about?
 
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Lmaooo, what are you even talking about?
Sangatsu no Lion. But a totally wrong show and thread, pal LOL
I know I just noticed that 😅 I still love my Gundam
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So those Mobile Armours were... AI consisting of human minds made with experiments, or simply AI made to fight? The latter seems not drastic enough. Things are escalating twice as fast.

I wonder if that maybe has something to do with how the Alaya-Vijnana system seems to be taboo within the ranks of Gjallarhorn.
 
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das_nooblet said:
Daniel_Naumov said:
So those Mobile Armours were... AI consisting of human minds made with experiments, or simply AI made to fight? The latter seems not drastic enough. Things are escalating twice as fast.

I wonder if that maybe has something to do with how the Alaya-Vijnana system seems to be taboo within the ranks of Gjallarhorn.
those mobile armors are probably like Ein. human fusing with machine.
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das_nooblet said:

I wonder if that maybe has something to do with how the Alaya-Vijnana system seems to be taboo within the ranks of Gjallarhorn.
those mobile armors are probably like Ein. human fusing with machine.

Which (if the theories are true) would make Gundam Vidar doubly interesting ...
 
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Gawd Metal Gearruuu
 
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So a single machine caused the Calamity War. That is something. Iok messed up. That wasn't a smart move by him. The way the Mobile Armor awakened was so epic. It's cool to know that Mobile Suits were specifically designed to destroy Mobile Armor. Can't wait to see Mika fight the MA. His reaction to it was eerie.
 
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Insert "2ND COMING OF GUNDAM AGE INTENSIFIES" Here.
 
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I can't believe the goatee guy was so naive as to send that retard down there with an ahab reactor mobile suit team knowing that it will awake that calamity weapon.
 
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The scene that i loved the most wasnt the great final scenes with the mobile armor, but rather that uncomfortably long stare mcgillis was doing in the car. Pedochar's love knows no bounds.

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I can't believe the goatee guy was so naive as to send that retard down there with an ahab reactor mobile suit team knowing that it will awake that calamity weapon.


Naive? you meant, He intentionally used Iok to make trouble in Mcgillis life again. Compared to Vidar and Julietta, Iok is an easy pawn to move around, he's emotional and kinda stupid.

Let's say that he actually knows that the MA will activate and go into a rampage, isn't that easier to remove McGillis from the political stage rather than outright killing him.

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Holy shit I got CHILLS this episode!
 
Dec 4, 2016 3:32 PM

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@kaimax That's true, that idiot fell for it so easily. I hope it costs him his life..
 
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nice cliffhanger there
 
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The last scene made me erect.
 
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Irenesharda said:


So all this time we've been worrying about Rustal and Teiwaz, but actually it's the MACHINES that we have to look out for.



Which kinda makes me worry about the direction the show MIGHT take. Like,it's interesting & all but I hope all the internal struggles & plotting that have been going on so far,that are bound to explode between the factions at some point won't take a backseat in favor of a typical "hey,let's all team up together to defeat the big baddie that threatens to extinguish human life!" plot(I don't mind these plots, but IBO has enough on it's plate as it's main plot strings for now).

It's great if the Mobile Armor's used as a catalyst for power struggle between factions instead,rather than suppressing it.

Also,to my surprise,McGillis didn't think about using it towards his own ends - or at least he didn't say it yet.
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Damn. That dumbass Ioq is way too eager to play for power. Stepping into a trap of his own misunderstanding like that..... hope he doesn't die just yet next week.

Kudellia's concerns over Tekkadan boy's well being is so sweet, and her worries very valid. I'm glad that they have someone like her to manage their assets.

Now we get to watch them revive old age military tech and fight with it all over again. Not sure why, but I'm getting Gundam X vibes here.
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I think Iok is the biggest suck-up and fuck-up in the history of anime! I hope the next episode is the last episode we'll see him in.
 
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-Eco, don't turn on that strange machine! It's dangerous!
-Eh, what are you talking about? *pushes button*
*machine fucks up the entire hanger*

-You're guilty of treason, I don't need any real proof for that though!
-Iok, don't step closer!
-Shut up!
*Steps into skynet's activation zone*

This fucking show. Just fucking listen for one second, everyone.
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So a single machine caused the Calamity War.
I don't think it's just one. I think there were many MAs during the Calamity War.
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The scene that i loved the most wasnt the great final scenes with the mobile armor, but rather that uncomfortably long stare mcgillis was doing in the car. Pedochar's love knows no bounds.
I know right?
 
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Yoo that ending ! got me so hyped that much power from a single armor


Ioq you truly are the fuck boi of this season ! causing metal gear to awaken (looks like Mikazuki was reacting to it as well)

glad the R&D guys are okay shit got real bad then they cut away i'm like "What happened to them?!"
 
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Looks like they woke up the reapers? SOVEREIGN! "You exist, because we allow it. And you will end, because we demand it."

Pretty excited for this plot development. The 2nd season has been kind of slow and not as interesting as I hoped but this stuff with the mobile armors is REALLY interesting. Mika's eye activating was really interesting too. So I guess since the mobile frames were made to hunt the mobile armors and he has piloted Barbatos so much his eye and maybe his arm will activate when a mobile armor activates? I am REALLY looking forward to the next episode.
 
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This is a side story. Don't think it will matter. Less interesting to write too.

Real question is what was McGillis' original plans. We know he wasn't intending to outright destroy it. He also didn't want the rest of Gallahorn to know. The gundamy thing is to go into another super robot like the end of season 1. I think there's going to be a link to the child soldier nanobots.
 
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BlackstarFallen said:
So a single machine caused the Calamity War. That is something. Iok messed up. That wasn't a smart move by him. The way the Mobile Armor awakened was so epic. It's cool to know that Mobile Suits were specifically designed to destroy Mobile Armor. Can't wait to see Mika fight the MA. His reaction to it was eerie.


Actually, it wasn't a single machine. There were several MAs, this was just one of them. It's called Hashmal.
 
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I'm liking McGillis' machinations more and more. As long as he doesn't intend to betray Tekkadan or throw them away, I'm all for them.

Hush looks like Saitama with hair, but he acts just like Genos XD

LMAO what was Zack going to reveal about Shino??

Damn, shit's about to get real! I wasn't expecting another episode of mostly setup, but wow. Can't wait to see where things go on next episode.
 
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ManlyTear said:
Irenesharda said:


So all this time we've been worrying about Rustal and Teiwaz, but actually it's the MACHINES that we have to look out for.



Which kinda makes me worry about the direction the show MIGHT take. Like,it's interesting & all but I hope all the internal struggles & plotting that have been going on so far,that are bound to explode between the factions at some point won't take a backseat in favor of a typical "hey,let's all team up together to defeat the big baddie that threatens to extinguish human life!" plot(I don't mind these plots, but IBO has enough on it's plate as it's main plot strings for now).

It's great if the Mobile Armor's used as a catalyst for power struggle between factions instead,rather than suppressing it.

Also,to my surprise,McGillis didn't think about using it towards his own ends - or at least he didn't say it yet.


Nah I doubt it. I've seen the previews for the next few episodes and this battle with the Mobile Armor is just going to be another event in the political proxy, cold war that's been going on throughout the season so far. That isn't changing anytime soon.
 
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ManlyTear said:
Also,to my surprise,McGillis didn't think about using it towards his own ends - or at least he didn't say it yet.


When I saw him say that I thought he leaked his own movements and the existence of the Mobile Armor to the other Gjallarhorn faction so that they'd go in guns blazing and inadvertedly activate the Mobile Armor...that way their reputation would be gutted, another McGillis rival would be gone and he'd get even more prestige for maybe handling the threat.

Despite how he's portrayed I always think McGillis always has an ulterior motive behind everything he does, he is this series Char after all.
 
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Casting aside the hatred for how everyone is seeing wrong, out of place characters in this series...
Was it ever explained how Mobile Armours were unmanned? Was it a simple AI or a human consciousness made into an AI?
 
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What learned in this episode: Listen when someone tells you to not step any closer.

That MA will go berserk. -.-
It's already too late whatever McGillis is planning to do with it because its already awake.
I just do hope they can stop that from destroying everything.

I'm starting to like Hush and him wanting to follow Mikazuki anywhere, even though it annoys the latter. Also him from trying to guess what relationship Mikazuki and Kudelia had.
I really like the Fumitan Admoss Elementary School that Kudelia established. Education is really important.


All in all I like the episode. ;)
 
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Low_Ki said:
ManlyTear said:
Also,to my surprise,McGillis didn't think about using it towards his own ends - or at least he didn't say it yet.


When I saw him say that I thought he leaked his own movements and the existence of the Mobile Armor to the other Gjallarhorn faction so that they'd go in guns blazing and inadvertedly activate the Mobile Armor...that way their reputation would be gutted, another McGillis rival would be gone and he'd get even more prestige for maybe handling the threat.

Despite how he's portrayed I always think McGillis always has an ulterior motive behind everything he does, he is this series Char after all.


That'd be some serious "just as planned" on his part :P
 
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So far I'm liking the build up(calm before the storm) for the next episode.

It looks like Mika has a new best friend. It was quite impressive that Mika made sure that Kudelia manages his money it even more impressive that he is saving it for the future rather than spending his money like his peers.
 
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That Mobile Armor....

Isn't that EXA-DB from Gundam AGE? It's going to be final boss again I see
 
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Never imagined that unmanned machines will be enemies to the world. I really have a bad feeling as I think a lot of people will die at the hand of those machines.

I like that Chad is still in a state of shock over Nadi and Merribit's relationship. Could it be that Chad had a thing for Merribit and that's why he looked upset this episode? Well, I wouldn't be surprised as boys their age tend to get attracted to older women, right?
So Shino is still playing around with women, huh? That would sure disappoint Yamagi but I guess he knows Shino well by now. I'm curious what Zack was about to say that Shino desperately stopped him. I wonder what happened the night they went out to play with women.
I like Eugene and I respect him for realizing that he won't gain anything by playing with women. It's a temporary pleasure that won't bring him long-lasting satisfaction. Hope he finds himself a nice girl in the future.

Iok can get on my nerves but I don't really dislike him. He's just stupid and will do anything to impress his superiors. I can see him being played by the likes of Jasley.

I'm really curious about McGillis' true intentions. I don't see him betraying Tekkadan as I think he needs them but I also don't think their relationship will remain the same.

I liked that Kudelia founded a school under Fumitan's name. It's really admirable and noble and shows just how much Fumitan meant to her. Fumitan might have been a spy but she died saving Kudelia at the end.
I hope Mikazuki lives to use the money he is saving in the future. I want to see him living a peaceful life but who knows if this will ever happen. :( I hate to think that the chances of both Mikazuki and Orga surviving till the end are very low. I don't want Atra to die as well but I think the chances of it happening are pretty high.

Looking forward to the next episode and see what those mobile armors do.
 
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