86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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| Great really great yh |
| Holy crappppp This is going to make for a really good series, I love the animation, it's great as expected from A-1. I must say that Milize is definitely looking like a top 3 girl of this spring season so far, and 86 looks like it'll be a top 5 anime for the season. |
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| Wow the scenes with the juggernauts were fantastic good episode as expected |
| This week's episode CGI was GREAT! A lot better than last week's. I enjoyed this episode, I think the pacing they're going at is good. There was something really sad about Shin's smile and the overall atmosphere, but I like how despite everything, the 86 district soldiers still want to "enjoy" life. |
| I sometimes forget to finish my sentences. |
| Really solid anime so far. Two good episodes in a row! |
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| Amazing ED song. The CGI was pretty good. |
| Nice pack ep. but for me, this whole war looks artificial? Legion has a numebers and technical advantage, but AI is stupid and unable to reach its full potential. And I'm not getting something. If all 86 are people who didn't meet some set of genetic standards and have been thrown outside the walls. So why are they actually fighting? I wonder if they are additionally controlled. I do not know. Some kind of bomb in the skull? The end of the episode shows that if they live to the end of their contract, they (maybe) will regain their rights and will be able to live within the walls again. But who's gonna let them in? Now they are not even recognized as human. On the other hand, if the war would actually end in two years, a large group of people would remain outside the walls. An armed group of people with actual combat experience. Srl... It all reminds me of some kind of experiment. |
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JanPri said: How come the war started just *9* years ago and after just 9 years they've started to believe everybody who doesn't have silver hair is "a humanoid pig that failed to evolve"??? I would understand if it was 90 years ago, but 9 years ago? I just don't get it. Didn't anybody have any contact with these "humanoid pigs" in the past 10 years? Before the war started? Didn't they see and communicate with them like with normal humans??? Read some world history. A crisis in the country (for example a war), a few years of hardcore propaganda and before you know it a whole group of the population are dehumanized and then usually killed. Well known examples. The Bolsheviks in Russia, the Nazis in Germany, the communists in Kabodja. |
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Saygram said: Nice pack ep. but for me, this whole war looks artificial? Legion has a numebers and technical advantage, but AI is stupid and unable to reach its full potential. And I'm not getting something. If all 86 are people who didn't meet some set of genetic standards and have been thrown outside the walls. So why are they actually fighting? I wonder if they are additionally controlled. I do not know. Some kind of bomb in the skull? The end of the episode shows that if they live to the end of their contract, they (maybe) will regain their rights and will be able to live within the walls again. But who's gonna let them in? Now they are not even recognized as human. On the other hand, if the war would actually end in two years, a large group of people would remain outside the walls. An armed group of people with actual combat experience. Srl... It all reminds me of some kind of experiment. All these questions will be answered in this season. The studio is taking the time to drop infodumps quite slowly without burning the anime-only watcher The adptation is *VERY* slow paced... and that's a good thing. It will probably be only 3 volumes for the entire 2 cours. |
AdrianRubinskyApr 17, 2021 3:07 PM
| We get to see a little bit more action on the front lines and the OST from the battle scene was really good. It was very bold of Lena to tell the new recruits about the truth of the Republic war effort, but I feel like its going to fall on deaf ears because they were taught that the people of 86 were pigs who fail to evolve. It seems that she is trying to bring awareness about the Republic War, but she doesn't have the proper platform to get it out there despite having a very notable position within the military. Not to mention that she only been to the front lines once, but never seen any real combat. Even Spearhead doesn't take her seriously even though she trying to connect with them. It's going to be very difficult for her to fight against the fascist/racist propaganda the Republic keeps spewing out. She needs more allies within the military to turn things around. |
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| So the people referred to as 86 are just people kicked out of society because they have different features, smh. |
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| 1. Ok, the battle was fun...some absurd moments in it (like dodging projectiles and cutting metal with metal) but really fun. Apart from the "rule of the cool" I didn't get the gemming part - if the radio frequencies are blocked and the laser communication can give up your position. How "directional laser-based transition" differs from "verbal communication"? In other words how this Para-RAID thing works and why it can't be gemmed? 2. The infodump cleared some of the mysteries...but: - A segregation which happened overnight? Something doesn't match. Maybe the colourless guys were cooking that for years and just used the crisis as an excuse? - The MP guy should've arrested Lena despite her having backup from a higher place. It's his job to prevent or stop scenes like that. Her being released later is issue for another day. - The theory that the war will end after two years is pretty naive or a propaganda lie. They have no idea if there aren't other bots on storage which just wait to be activated or maybe there could be some automatic factories which repair and recharge kill-bots. Not to mention there are different models, some of which can be more durable than others. - Yeah, they don't call them drones, so some people here should stop too. 3. Oh, so those guys have some technical support on site...which makes possible some tinkering with the junk they find, cobbling some useful bots and even achieving more complex technical goals. 4. The 86-ers sounded a bit too cheery for canon fodders send to be killed by relentless robot army. I don't buy the explanation "They behave like this to distract themselves.". Like there should be some sings of PSD or whatnot. |
alshuApr 17, 2021 3:45 PM
| Wow at Lena spelling some truths.....it's extremely weird she wasn't shot on the spot considering the society she lives in but I guess that uncle protection is really strong then. The action was excellent, I dare say the CG was Ghost in the Shell levels good. Everything is shaping up greatly so far. |
| The dialogue with old man Audreht was quite close. I think they cut out their bit about reports so Lena's scene and the epilogue would have more impact. 03:43 Kujo being added to the box of names No Latin Bible line. 03:51 The backgrounds and scenery look really nice. Exposition about the legion was integrated into character dialogue so I don't really see a problem. I like the artistic contrast to the Juggernaut's appearance. 09:48 The slow-mo projectile and the Juggernaut action sequence look so good. We get two perspectives of when Lena gives the same order to Shin; Shin's at 08:41 and Lena's at 11:17 11:45 In an anime-original scene, the light novel's exposition is framed in a lecture, with Vladilena Milizé invited to speak as an experienced Handler. 16:20 You can't spell angel without Lena. We got a pouty face Lena and then an elevated heartrate when she talks about Undertaker, so adorable. The ending is a real banger: 20:17 Anju's misunderstanding of Daiyu cracks me up 20:50 Shin is a true badass. 22:10 Kaie's reaction to Shin's signal. 22:42 You can see that Kurena doesn't take kindly to Lena communicating with them. 23:24 Shin's smile |
Fortress_MaximusApr 18, 2021 12:09 PM
 Novels I have read/am reading pending approval: since November 10 2022 |
| I think someone already mentioned this in the thread, but it's highly likely that the ED visuals will change with every episode. Aniplex's upload of the ED titled it as the "Episode 2 ED Video", so we'll probably see the visuals changing. That being said, I would rather have a proper ED because it's kinda weird seeing an ED with only two still-shots as it's visuals, lol. |
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| So the 86 people are differentiated due to their hair color? If that's so, why is Anju aka Snow Witch in the 86? |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| I really appreciate how on point the show is with the use of CGI, this is superbly done. The action was pretty great overall and this undertaker is something else, his skills are not to be underestimated. I failed to notice that Sawano is responsible for the OST of the Anime, fuck is it good as usual. The post-credit talk between Lena and the spearheads was kind of nice, however I felt that most of them aren't happy with her calling every night. Judging from the title of next episode, we might get a casualty... |
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Saygram said: Well known examples. The Bolsheviks in Russia, the Nazis in Germany, the communists in Kabodja. All of those confronting groups weren't formed overnight. "Bolsheviks in Russia" was oppressed vs privileged - a consequence from several wars and several radical organisations trying to overtake the power. "Nazis in Germany" was xenophobia, antisemitism and along other things homophobia. Those were boiling from some time - easy scapegoats for the bad economical/political situation before and after WWI. "Khmer Rouge" was preexisting xenophobia and racism too. JanPri is asking from what event the confrontation Non-Colorata vs Colorata originated. It even didn't happened after 9 years, it came out before - when the robots attacked. For some reason the local nazis decided and also had the means to swiftly get rid themselves of their "pigs" by sending them "in the trenches". It's unclear why and how that happened. Even our not-so-nazi privileged and very fanservice-y oujo-sama calls it "Republic's foolish mistake". None of your examples are "foolish mistakes" more like "all part of the plan". |
| Amazing episode, however I kinda felt uncomfortable with Lena cannot read the situation she is in, especially when talking to Shin and the others at the latter half of the episode. |
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| A pretty interesting anime so far but I hope it gets better as it keeps going especially the characters, they are not bad but nothing to write home about as of now |
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| Can we appreciate bgm and sound effects as well as the animation? It's so god damn good. |
| So far, it seems like the adaption is very standard out of the box robot alien/enemies are being crushed by op, but subferior population. I can tell it'll be good, but the direction of the animation seems a bit directionless so far--almost like we're on episode 10 rather then episode 2. Anyone get that feeling or just me? I feel like shit will hit the fan soon enough, and I'll be fully immersed --but so far I get very standard out of the box directing. (Also a possible romance that might not have enough foundation). That said, holy bajeezus - the sound track, the animation, the expressiveness of seiyuus? God tier. Interesting that they present her to be naiive-- but also a bit odd and passionate intellectual energy as well |
Kursei said: You certainly can,though I'm not a fan of the OP much,but the ED,just,wow!!Can we appreciate bgm and sound effects as well as the animation? It's so god damn good. Overall,I really like this,the animation is superb,the storytelling is good,but it seems like it's just slightly,I dunno,out of synch a bit? Though the music and use of it is brilliant,and so far the CV,s have done an excellent job.It feels like they are really trying to express the individual characters feelings and traits. A 9 from me so far(upped from an 8 for the first episode,since this one was on point) And I really want someone to look at this and say "damn,this would make a good game" I want to pilot one of those juggernauts :) |
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| This is easily becoming my most looked forward to episode per week this season. CG robot fights looking pretty good, hope they can keep this up, but since it's A1 at least I know it probably will keep the quality pretty good. But gosh, all these questions, I MIGHT just have to peek at the LN or manga if I get really impatient. |
kuddlesworth said: Why are they kids? can't pilot a mech...spiderbot if you're a old man see example the only old dude is a repairman |
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| well then..86 went full on fascist nazi with the republic huh ,lets see how it handles such a extreme theme because it just threw all of it at a wall with that one lol legion are all autobots if understand right the empire got wiped out?, are the spearheads gonna be the only people i'm suppose to care for despite knowing most of them will most likely die best thing i can say is the music made a not very exciting battle pretty hyped |
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| The CGI on the mechs for the fights is some of the best I’ve seen in a TV anime. I really like that this anime places such an emphasis on making the fights a spectacle to draw people in rather than just doing the bare minimum. The sound design during the fights is usually top-notch, but it can get a little messy at times and can fail to emphasize some movements at other times. One other thing that has bothered me is how the narrative bounces between scenes with little continuity. The episodes feel like they lack some cohesion as a result. |
| We live in a blessed timeline. A-1 has done a masterful job with this show so far and I love them for it. |
| Glimpses of the Spearhead Squadron living hood and what they do, as well the ugly side of the Empire so far up to ep2, which don't make alot sense put together at this point. While I prefer sticking with the Squad side of stuffs am still waiting for the main plot. Lena's behavior is off as Handler One, alot emotions going on that I don't understand, suggesting may have something to do with her sortie story. Looks like going to be a slow build up, hope to see something interesting soon. |
N2NApr 17, 2021 8:08 PM
| There is that killer OST the first episode was missing. Nice. Okay second episode. Lena is slowly bonding with the Spearhead squad... or that's what she thinks at least. The bits of world-building during the class were also interesting but Lena interrupting and lecturing the new recruits about potential state secrets sure was a risky move. |
| music and animation work was great in this episode. so weird to see cgi that doesn't look like utter shit and was shown for quite some time. the way i feel abt lena so far is probably how shin's squad feels abt her. a kid who wants and tries to help but ends up not doing so, though its understandable because she really hasn't had any experience with this and she really is trying her best. |
| Mirize still tries to fight but it seems that the majority of the people from the empire simply don't care, damn, that's tough. So they have 2 years left for the war to end, or at least that's what they assume, for sure it won't be that easy. Undertaker is the MVP, the guy got insane skills! Also, it seems way too fishy that they can join the empire after serving 5 years. |
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Chris_Concept said: Damn I feel bad for the life of an 86 Also I probably missed this but why do they have 2 years to end the war? Because the AI machines will turn off since their battery died. |
| "There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| Lovely art & action... premise is quite silly though. Who would be dumb enough to launch a giant autonomous attack with no way to service/refuel the units? Presumably the defect is so obvious the enemy knows years in advance. Also, who would be dumb enough to believe that the enemy would be that stupid? I'm guessing it won't go as planned. Again, beautiful execution but so much of the premise is overly simple. |
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