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| DEEP episode. It's nice to get a Lyuze-centric episode I guess. |
| Wow this show is sooo melodramatic! |
GoldenBRS said: Droping this show. You're really not going to finish it after watching this far? wtf |
| Holy crap,I was so confused throughout the whole episodes. It was quite good,yet confusing. |
| My Devianart Oh & Space Brothers is still the best anime ever,in my opinion.Even when competing with Attack on Titan. |
| Ugh, just what this series needed, a whole episode that needed just a line of dialogue of explanation. God damn this slow pace. |
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dbaranyi said: Huh? That was an "EVA" - quality episode. Is Lyuze halucinating because of the Rust? I made that same connection to the last few episodes of EVA. This episode was really weird... Especially the part where Lyuze does the nasty and kills that one guy. I didn't really follow that part... kinda thinking it was pointless fanservice :I |
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| That was a psychodelic experience o.o This episode was beautiful, although I don't understand WHY now (really, why Lyuze started to think just now? It should have happened a few eps ago. On the other hand this episode can be seen as some special that dosn't have any direct impact on the plot, also because Lyuze is breaking the forth wall out of nowhere) and WHY there (this "city" was a bad idea imo Im sure that in Casshern's world there are hundreds of better, more beautiful and interesting places worth to be shown). And omg what was the creepy ring girl about? First I've thought it might be Lyuze's sister that put the curse on Lyuze? but nay... lzumi-chan said: How could Lyuze be small once? Isn't she a robot who didn't decay in 100 years? Yeah, that bothers me too. I think that it was just a dream, so the child might be a projection of her past self in body of a five year old (for us, either way we could get confused with the time and space lapses within this ep :P) but we have a few eps left, so maybe it will turn out that some robots can age? |
| So basically she just wants Casshern to fuck her. Girl is so horny she's hallucinating. I still hate Lyuze, 1/5 for this episode. NightRiff said: GoldenBRS said: Droping this show. You're really not going to finish it after watching this far? wtf I really want to drop this but i'm holding on because i'm so close to the end. :s Otherwise i'd drop this harder than Lyuze's non-existent dick. |
| For some reason this episode didn't annoy me. Weird. I normally hate things like this. |
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| Holy fuck that episode was weird. That was a whole lot of character development, barbie doll anatomy, and mind fuck. Didn't really like this episode too fucking weird for me and that black guy scared the shit out of me. 2/5 |
| That imposed sex scene was just off story an totally didn't fit and the fact that he was black only worsened it... Totally lowered the overall score for me would've dropped this series if it wasn't almost finished. |
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| What da funk have I just seen? I totally didn't expect this kind of episode/concept/visuals in Casshern Sins. It's like the director saw The Ring and Evangelion the night before working on this episode. I get that they have to develop Lyeda's conflicting emotions for Casshern and her character in general. But I think this could have been done some episodes before, and the dream sequences didn't need to be so out there. What was up with Lyeda and the random guy she 'did' it with and then killed? I don't even know what that is trying to tell us. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| This show really likes to take things that are simple and make them appear complicated as hell. It's like a 5 year old trying to understand texts written by philosophers. I usually like this kind of episode, but it wasn't needed and it wasn't done very well. |
| Lots of symbolism here! So basically Lyuze have the hots for Casshern and apparently wants to have sex with him?! I think it was a decent episode but the symbolisms could've been done in a better way. The 2nd half has been a bit underwhelming so far compared to the 1st half. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
| wat Even though I've been thinking about it (and in the end, I was right, as always)----- ---still........ wat |
| Best cathartic episode since EVA's final episodes. The people that call this ep shit because it wasn't spoon fed to them is sad. Since when has layered characterization been a bad thing? 5/5 |
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| Bizarre, but some pretty imagery. Nice character development and self discovery |
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| 18 episodes in and some people still don't get the Casshern's story telling way rofl. |
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| It resembles EVA so much, which I, for some reason, really like |
| Any cute girls please feel free to join my harem: http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=70667 |
 Well. I think that was my favorite Casshern Sins episode. It wasn't the cuts to blurred real life images that lend to otherworldly feelings of uncertainty and unease. It wasn't the dream within a dream within a dream-like imagery-driven introspection, mirroring Lyuze retracing her mental steps between her feelings towards Lize and Casshern. It wasn't even the fact that the episode employed violence and sexuality thematically so that as the episode progressed, the imagry would get more intense in correlation with Lyuze's feelings of love and bloodlust. It was the fact that the entire episode was dedicated to Lyuze, a main-ish character whom I didn't expect much complexity from, and fleshed her character out in a manner which recalls some of my favorite character-driven introspective journeys. A few other things though: first, I'm glad that we have the confirmation that years have indeed passed since Luna's death. Second, now I'm even more confused about how robots work in this world. They can apparently start as children and grow to be "adults," unless this was Lyuze imagining herself and Lize as children. That wasn't entirely clear. Third, I don't know why the middle of the episode was seemingly set in what I can only describe as public housing projects in the US, aka "the projects." Was that to set the universe in our world, or was that just to look cool and contemporary? Lastly, where did this development even come from? I don't think it was ever really established that Lyuze had a thing for Casshern. They never really had much interactions before the past few episodes. I don't even recall them fighting together more than once, and that was just Casshern standing there taking the slashes. She was the an on-and-off again character appearing in the background before becoming an actual character sometime in the second half of the show. Heck, I'm not even sure how this "can I, a robot, feel love?" bit makes sense 'cause of how human the robots already seem. Perhaps this is a play on how the dichotomy of humans and robots have blended? Who knows. Anyways, I'm glad that Casshern Sins has got me to start asking such questions. It means that I'm really, really paying attention now. That was great. |
ShockedMay 20, 2016 12:03 AM
| Man this was a mindfuck...were the live action scenes suppose to represent Lyuzes sister? ( Hella creepy lol ) Really get to see inside Lyuzes mind, about her sister, and Casshern. She keeps remembering how her sister dies as they keep repeating the same scene with her in the episode, crumbling away into tiny pieces and having her eye smashed to nothing. Its as if she can't take the image out of her mind no matter how many times she tries to avoid it, even when she attempts to forget it by seeking vengeance, her emotions become a vortex, cycling back and forth between rage and love....someone who killed her sister, someone who brought ruin to all life, is the person who she fell in love with. She knows Casshern is responsible for everything, and yet he is trying to make amends for everything, he knows his sin will never be forgiven, but even so, Casshern wants to save as many people as possible, he wants warm moments with the people he comes across, he desires moments that are peaceful and happy, even when the world is destroyed. He wears his heart on his sleeve, and that was the Casshern she fell in love with, the gentle, caring person who is known to be one of the 3 killing machines created solely for death. Death and life going around in a endless cycle....Just one episode of Casshern Sins makes you really think about what the show is trying to convey as a piece of art, in just 1 episode alone, it spawns a small story, that can span forever My god I love this show |
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| Terrible and disappointing episode |
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| umm what was the point of this whole episode lel? coz it sure didnt add to the story progression in any measurable way. |
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| Another filler episode |
| Hahaha she said "His hand pierced me". You knew she was in love. I think it's a bit touching that she likes Casshern. He's difficult to dislike; Lyuze was dreaming of her turmoil, but wanted to follow Casshern. She keeps meeting up with him though. It also exploits the theme that these robots have essence. |
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RedHeadYoko said: So that is just a dream of her?A7xsynyster said: I dont understand the black guy stereotype? Did sleep with him, what on earth did that part mean? Does the blood represent a human desire. OVERALL: was the black guy in her dream? "I will grand your wish" , she wants to fall in love with Casshern including doing everything related to that..But she cant since this is so wrong , her sister got murdered by him.The guy offers to fuck her , like a prostitute , Lyuze accepts as she tries to fill the forbiden feeling for romance with Casshern but in the end she ends up killing the guy since she understands that this is not why she was looking for.. At least this is what I think. |
RedHeadYoko said: Homie you're a real man. I just Quoted out of desperation I never thought you'd reply. And thanks this helped a lot.Avichii said: So that is just a dream of her? My man , it has been 3 years since I wrote that but as far as I remember , it seemed like it took place inside her head. Like a dream yes! XD |
| Too bad the characters drawings were often so badly defined because the episode looked good overall. A very welcomed change in scenery that came along a jarring shift in episode "content": an unexpected secondary character dive. 4/5 |
| Boring up until the end. I was already aware of everything Lyuze was developing with Casshern beforehand, they're just emphasizing self explanatory shit I don't need to be reminded of |
| Great episode. I love the deep introspection into Lyuzes feelings and inner conflicts. She loves Casshern! Which is so cute. I'm really a sucker for that. I can understand her conflict. She wants to avenge her sister, bu because Casshern lost his memory he's essentially a different person. Plus he's sweet and caring and protective of those important to him. Also he's beautiful but that's just vanity. The trippiness of the episode worked so well, like an episode of EVA. She's conflicted, seeing her sister everywhere she looks, seeing her past self, mindlessly hooking up with people in her hazy mind state. What's interesting is that she killed the guy after they had sex, which shows both how casual killing happens in this post apocalyptic world, and how little shes thinking clearly right now. The art was amazing. Especially the graffiti. Really cool to se, props to who ever designed that. I don't know if Casshern will feel the same love back, but I kinda hope so, because they would make a great pair. I kinda want it to happen. |
| OK. That was an ep. |
"Perfection is perception. For me, humanity's imperfections is what makes it perfect"  |
| TOP tier episode. Each episode in the second half of the show thus far has been better than the previous one; a complete 180 degree turn from the first half. I loved how the episode tackled Lyuze's inner dilemma. The fact that Casshern brought about The Ruin cannot be changed, but seeing Casshern try his best to make amends has irreversibly altered her. She was just a boring angsty girl at the start, now she's actually got some depth in her! More of this kind of writing, please! |
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| Very interesting episode with metaphorical and artistic storytelling. Lyuze's dreams, memories, and maybe even hallucinations blending together to really show us what she's thinking instead of telling us. She's conflicted between her love of her sister and her love of Casshern. Sure, Casshern indirectly caused the death of her sister, but if Lyuze ever wants to be happy again, she has to accept her sister's death. The creepy black guy and her blatantly saying "I'm in love with Casshern" are the only real weak points in this episode for me. They were doing so good at "show don't tell" but then went around and had her say that. Though I guess with some of the people in the comments above you really need to hammer the point home for some people to get the meaning through their thick skulls. In the end, I really like what they went for with this episode even if the execution was a bit odd. Solid 4/5 imo, would give 4.5/5 if half star ratings were a thing. |
| Loved this episode, has to be my favourite so far. We get to watch Lyuze face an inner conflict that stems from her recent change of attitude towards Casshern. There is a brief revert to her past self that abhorred him - the part of her character that I was really fond of at the start of the series - but in the end, she accepts that those feelings are no more. Lots of inner monologue and a dreamlike environment with a touch of surrealism in quite a few places. This really did carry some EVA/Utena vibes, wonder if we see more of it. |
| I see. Your only option is to revolutionize the world. |
Crack said: Boring up until the end. I was already aware of everything Lyuze was developing with Casshern beforehand, they're just emphasizing self explanatory shit I don't need to be reminded of This is how i feel about tons of things during the anime |
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