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| That was beautiful, thrilling and epic! I wish i could score a 11. Why did you ask? Because eleven is louder than ten! Btw, boy i gonna miss this, so many feelings *.* |
| A life is a history with no end...it continues to be told by others endless. We do not own lives, we own histories! |
| Great ending to Ushio. That episode brought some serious feels man. I loved the f&ck out this show. Will seriously miss it. 8/10 |
| Loved this series. They don't make much of anything like this anymore,. Sad to see Tora die though. Or... did he? xD |
| I didn't expect Tora to die !_!. It's a great ending, all the things are done, Ushio's father and mother are reunited and the feels are here. I preferred this season. |
| TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! That was a sad episode. Tora, he looked satisfied. One year later Ushiro still kinda in mourning of Tora. But still, I thought Tora didn't remember anything about the past but as soon as the Beast Spare impaled him, he start talking about the past. like he remembered everything. Sooo, was Tora actually playing dumb all this time or does he have a bit of a short term memory? |
| I have nothing to say.... I just cried like a little bitch |
| Oh man, what a show... It's sad that it's over now. Nothing really to complain - it was all pretty good. I give it a 9/10. Tora ... ;__; |
hayka said: But still, I thought Tora didn't remember anything about the past but as soon as the Beast Spare impaled him, he start talking about the past. like he remembered everything. Sooo, was Tora actually playing dumb all this time or does he have a bit of a short term memory? He actually remembered his past during his encounter with the samurai who, as revealed in Ushio to Tora Gaiden, was completely scared out of his wits about everything going on. After they saved the samurai's childhood friend from being a sacrifice, they went off to have their battle, and the memories kept coming back until he remembered what the Beast Spear was, and that Hakumen no Mono was after it. So it was his idea to have the Spear impale him which in turn stopped the samurai from turning into an azafuse and thus saved the Aotsuki lineage. So yes, he played dumb, though he came to genuinely like Ushio as time went on most likely because he reminded Tora of Rhama. But being the tsundere he is, he was never going to admit it even after Mayuko practically revealed she knew all along Tora was never going to eat Ushio nor her. |
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Lil-Bird said: I see. Thanks for the info.hayka said: But still, I thought Tora didn't remember anything about the past but as soon as the Beast Spare impaled him, he start talking about the past. like he remembered everything. Sooo, was Tora actually playing dumb all this time or does he have a bit of a short term memory? He actually remembered his past during his encounter with the samurai who, as revealed in Ushio to Tora Gaiden, was completely scared out of his wits about everything going on. After they saved the samurai's childhood friend from being a sacrifice, they went off to have their battle, and the memories kept coming back until he remembered what the Beast Spear was, and that Hakumen no Mono was after it. So it was his idea to have the Spear impale him which in turn stopped the samurai from turning into an azafuse and thus saved the Aotsuki lineage. So yes, he played dumb, though he came to genuinely like Ushio as time went on most likely because he reminded Tora of Rhama. But being the tsundere he is, he was never going to admit it even after Mayuko practically revealed she knew all along Tora was never going to eat Ushio nor her. |
| I loved this part in the manga, and it was great here. Tora... :( That said, one major complaint; they cut out a death scene! Remember Kirio's yokai partner? He died in the manga, but it's off-screen here. I guess the animators realized that he didn't appear much at all in the anime, but still... But yeah, great show. One of the best this season. |
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| Glad to see the anime wrapped up. The ending was also superbly done. One of the few anime endings where it actually sat well and felt like it was all over. So many feels through it and can't wait to find many more precious gems like this. |
| Great ending to an underrated anime. Still don't forgive Nagare, that piece of shit was downright nonsensical, at least Hakumen could be understood since with such a sad origin. The fact Hakumen was so concerned about prettiness also increases my viewpoint that it was female, plus her avatars and always taking female forms herself/itself. |
| Jaywalker. |
| Such a great conclusion to this anime. Its a shame that it ends, but just like the previous feels show that made me cry before this one (Ansatsu), fun times are bound to end. *brb going to cry in a corner again* I was really happy to see Ushio's mom survive, and then probably even more depressed that Tora didn't. I'm glad for that very nice hopeful ending we got there, Tora is probably reviving then, good for Mayuko! I also liked the depth at which they developed Hakumen, and I appreciated them giving Hakumen some real motive and wishes. Amazing anime and I'll miss it for sure |
gust11Jun 28, 2016 11:21 PM
 "If I don't have to do it, I won't. If I have to do it, I'll make it quick."- Oreki Houtarou |
| To me this is inferior to the first season. I think the pacing was kinda bad and the directing... uuh I don't know, maybe the source material really was that cliche but there were just so many cringe-worthy moments in this season. Not saying the first season didn't have those moments but it was less obvious and less prevalent. Honestly Tora dying didn't even make me sad. 5/10 |
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| Holy shit! The final fight was too intense! Bye Tora! :'( And the feels when Ushio's parents "reunited" at last. Q.Q Anyway, I would definitely gonna rate this a 9 out of 10 score overall! |
| Haters always gonna hate. |
| The ending was good, but I liked the first seasons more. |
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| Wow what a great finale to a great series. Taking into account all 39 episodes I can definitely say that this is one of the better shounen series I've had the pleasure of watching. Tora will be missed! But knowing series like these, he'll probably be back! 10/10!!!! |
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| I like that they decided to adapt the entire manga, but the rush is real. A few ??? pop up when I saw some unfamiliar scenes in this sequel, having not read the manga. The first few episodes honestly felt like fillers until the eventual Hakumen no Mono's revival, then it still felt somewhat like fillers, though the feelings eventually disappear. This season isn't any better than the last season. Although this is supposed to be the direct continuation of the previous season, I didn't really get invested until some time into the series because of the lack of recapping. They decided to go straight into the story, and I mean, straight into a new story, and I was not mentally prepared. I wanted to like this because this is so old-schoolish, but even old school have their own flaws. edit: I also almost forgot that they tried to do a backstory for Hakumen? His true goal remains a mystery that I would have loved to know more about. |
ToG25thBaamJul 19, 2016 2:32 AM
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| it was a great series indeed and now it is the best anime i have watched this year. Tora dying was great even though he was my favorite. I was glad ushio was the one who lived and not turn into a beast. His transformation was saved by giryou and jie mei AND also they forgot about Asakos romantic feelings to ushio. |
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| I really hope this anime will eventually reach more people. Despite all that was skipped, this season was done extremely well. Ushio to Tora deserves more love. |
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Lil-Bird said: hayka said: But still, I thought Tora didn't remember anything about the past but as soon as the Beast Spare impaled him, he start talking about the past. like he remembered everything. Sooo, was Tora actually playing dumb all this time or does he have a bit of a short term memory? He actually remembered his past during his encounter with the samurai who, as revealed in Ushio to Tora Gaiden, was completely scared out of his wits about everything going on. After they saved the samurai's childhood friend from being a sacrifice, they went off to have their battle, and the memories kept coming back until he remembered what the Beast Spear was, and that Hakumen no Mono was after it. So it was his idea to have the Spear impale him which in turn stopped the samurai from turning into an azafuse and thus saved the Aotsuki lineage. So yes, he played dumb, though he came to genuinely like Ushio as time went on most likely because he reminded Tora of Rhama. But being the tsundere he is, he was never going to admit it even after Mayuko practically revealed she knew all along Tora was never going to eat Ushio nor her. That's still kinda iffy to me. Especially the part that he got that 'twinge' of memory from the Spear's creation in ancient China. I think I would've preferred if he only remembered some pieces, of what the spear is and Hakumen, rather than everything. Also, I have to ask... why would Tora want Ushio to pull the spear out in episode 1 then? Unless he knew that because he was able to enter the basement, he needed to use it. Didn't really seem like he was faking the brutality and frustration when he attacked, only to be thwarted by the spear inadvertently when he was freed. Not to mention that right after, he tried to bail out as well. He couldn't have known Ushio would have kept using it and especially use it to keep him in line. Yeah, no matter how I look at it, it kinda screams retcon to me and it's not my favorite choice. This episode was alright; but didn't really wow me. I was kinda hoping for something more, I guess, but I liked Hakumen's story overall. Too bad a lot of the content involving everyone Ushio actually met in the manga wasn't included, just to make everything as fleshed out as it could be. Honestly, I didn't really like the second part of the anime as much as the first. Mostly due to time constraints and that awful decision to swap the memory with the Azafuse parts for no reason. That completely ruined the pacing for me. Despite their rewrites, it still didn't make a lick of sense. I'm also wondering if Asako was supposed to be something more as well and it was aborted. Tora hints before with, "She ain't normal" because she can block their blows, but... nothing comes of it. So, I guess she's just a tough tomboy? Overall, I appreciate this show and like it, and while it would be an 8/10 if the original story structure was intact... in my own personal DVDs, I did re-edit and rewrite Azafuse and the memory to be in the proper order and like that, it works a lot better; that I'd give an 8, but that's only one copy on Earth. As it actually is, sad to say, 7/10. I have no idea what they were thinking. Yet another reason why the concept of 'seasons' ruins anime; they felt they needed to start off with an epic 2 part storyline instead, I guess. The skipped content would've been nice to see, but it's not that critical. At least the anime still implies it's still there, and it still works overall... just not quite as well. 7/10 for this... probably 7.5-8/10 for the whole. |
CrimsonCWAug 30, 2016 9:26 AM
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
RealCW said: That's still kinda iffy to me. Especially the part that he got that 'twinge' of memory from the Spear's creation in ancient China. I think I would've preferred if he only remembered some pieces, of what the spear is and Hakumen, rather than everything. I don't believe he remembered China as much as he did of his human life. But he had 500 years to reflect back on his life down in the basement. Memories could've trickled back naturally or gradually he started to forget until Ushio dropped in, even then, he wasn't in China to personally see the creation. He was just walking nearby when he saw the Spear fly off, recognized it may have ties to Hakumen no Mono, and went after it. Now it's possible the Spear, back when he used it, could've told him a little bit about itself, but he otherwise wouldn't have known about its creation. Also, I have to ask... why would Tora want Ushio to pull the spear out in episode 1 then? Unless he knew that because he was able to enter the basement, he needed to use it. Didn't really seem like he was faking the brutality and frustration when he attacked, only to be thwarted by the spear inadvertently when he was freed. Not to mention that right after, he tried to bail out as well. He couldn't have known Ushio would have kept using it and especially use it to keep him in line. Well, for one thing, someone was going to enter the basement eventually anyway. Over the years, people have tried to open it so they could get the Spear and defeat the demon it pinned, but they couldn't open it because they weren't fated to do so. Whether Tora was aware of this or not despite his encounter with the samurai, he's still a demon, so he wanted to eat him (which would fill his empty stomach and bring him to full power) and make a comeback so the other yokai would know about his return. As for still freaking out by the Spear reacting, he didn't want to be pinned by it again, and with a furious boy wielding it in front of him because Tora "broke" his promise... you get the idea. Tora sticks his foot in his mouth all the time anyway, he was just thinking with his stomach there. |
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Lil-Bird said: RealCW said: That's still kinda iffy to me. Especially the part that he got that 'twinge' of memory from the Spear's creation in ancient China. I think I would've preferred if he only remembered some pieces, of what the spear is and Hakumen, rather than everything. I don't believe he remembered China as much as he did of his human life. But he had 500 years to reflect back on his life down in the basement. Memories could've trickled back naturally or gradually he started to forget until Ushio dropped in, even then, he wasn't in China to personally see the creation. He was just walking nearby when he saw the Spear fly off, recognized it may have ties to Hakumen no Mono, and went after it. Now it's possible the Spear, back when he used it, could've told him a little bit about itself, but he otherwise wouldn't have known about its creation. So you're saying that memory twinge in China with Ushio was him remembering that he saw it fly off immediately after its creation? I guess he could have forgotten the little aspects of that, despite remembering all the other memories of his human life. He apparently didn't even draw the comparison when he sought out the spear, going on the rumors he heard about its youkai killing abilities, specifically regarding Hakumen. He never said "Oh, that's the same thing I saw 800 years ago in China." I don't think he ever drew that correlation in the first place, so that twinge was the first time he did that. The manga makes it a bit more clear too with the line, "They all flooded back in an instant, but I didn't know what they meant." Ok, question answered. I get it now. It adds a little more to the line to Hitosuki from the past too "I've changed these past 500 years". But I still have problems with other aspects. Based on that manga line, Tora couldn't have known HE was Shagakusha, at least. There are way too many lines to showcase he didn't. The fact he indirectly mocks himself when Jie Mie mentions "the man who freed the spear", with "That guy should've minded his own business". He didn't know at the time it was him. Also, even during the final battle when Tora chases after Hakumen and they have their little one-on-one, Hakumen immediately smells it on him and recognizes him, and when it mentions it to him, Tora responds with, "I have no idea what you're talking about!" or some line like that. And I can't find any reason for him to continue to pretend when he's not around anyone. The only thing that makes sense to me is that the memories came back but in a haze, but it's not a clear novel that you can go back to read in detail. It's like remembering a dream. It's hazy and you can really only *feel* what you did at the time and not describe it at all. How would you explain this? It's not like the entire evil act was completely fictional. Tora was documented to have killed many people without remorse, so he was a literal monster without much remorse in the past, so it can't be that he was always Shagakusha's mind in monster form. And honestly, the part about him remembering wasn't even needed to explain how he saw hiyou coming for the samurai. He and the rest of the monsters and humans just finished battling Hakumen a few centuries. He knew of him already. And yeah, I get the whole thing with the basement storehouse. It would only open at the fated time for the fated person, which would all coincide. The manga even mentions that they tried to bust it down and they would never budge. I believe the anime includes this as well. Tora must've known that because someone fell in, the time was right for the spear to be released. He knew it was going to happen eventually... and he was probably sick of it at the same time, no doubt. The whole part of him play acting though still doesn't sit with me though... He knew about Hakumen, yes, he's now a youkai who likes to kill and murder, sure... but I've listed reasons why I don't think he could've realized he was Shagakusha, let alone the creation of Hakumen. There are too many examples of the contrary. That's more what I have an issue with. Edit: You apparently got to read the gaiden some way, so I have one more question. Was it ever mentioned why the Beast Spear can suddenly kill humans when the user starts becoming a beast? All the girls were literally afraid of it and Tora even warns that they'll die if Ushio hits them with the spear, even though before it could never harm a human (with the blade at least). Tora says that line like him being a monster changes something, or maybe it's the fact he wasn't actually holding it... was that explained too? That drives me crazy pondering that reason. |
CrimsonCWAug 30, 2016 11:58 AM
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
| well, and this one's over too. i kinda felt a bit "meh" that this big bad was just another sobstory hiding beneath a rough exterior, kinda bummed me out how they made Hakumen into a pathetic, terrified little baby instead of the big bad it was made out to be _xp but i'm glad it's over, t'was a strong anime from start to finish, but i still miss that yokai obsessed with things that spin from the first anime ;D |
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| Tora! Cried a lot... 9/10 |
| WHAT AN ENDING. They truly made this to be one of the best. Everything starting from was enormous, the feels were too much. Tora leaving and Hakumen no Mono's death were too much. I would have never expected an anime to portray it this good. Having a badass villain on Hakumen's level but still making it possible for me to sympathize with him. He just wanted to join the light. It truly almost had me in tears :( At first I wanted to rate this 8/10, but with an ending this good, I guess I can give it a 10/10. note* can anyone explain the ending, nvm and thanks. KaitoKief said: Great finale to a great anime. I really liked the anime even if they skipped some parts of the manga. oZi4Ever said: This how you end an anime! Such an epic ride this was!!! Some questions : Did the anime cover the whole manga? At the end we can hear Ushio and Tora talking...? Tora alive? What happens between Asako and Tora? Will there be season 3? Damn man, loved this anime :( The anime skipped some arcs, but finished the story. Tora was reborn at the end. Between Asako and Tora? You probably mean Ushio? We do not know, but they eventually end up togehter. Story is finished. No 3rd season. Another adaption of a manga from Kazuhiro Fujita would be great. Karakuri Circus or Gekkou Jourei need an adaption |
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| It's been a long time since a shounen anime made me so emotionally attached to the characters, it was just EPIC. Hakumen wanted to be a human, poor thing, but he was too evil. Tora died, RIP. The yokai saved Japan! It's great seeing Ushio's family reunited again! |
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lord23 said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY DID YOU DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE D: Yup that summarises my feelings exactly. I can't get over it, he was one of my most loved characters. |
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| In the end I couldn't stop myself from feeling bad about Hakumen... |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| HnM admits to being afraid. Starts whooping Ushio and Tora. Dat big ass mouth. Hyou and Nagare. Shigure saving his woman like a boss. Oh, no. Kagari has injuries. Damn you!!! Juurou saved Kagari. You better. Don't cry, Kagari. Dem eyes...are gone. Dat speed. Dat back stab. Focking idiot. Now you can't sense the spear. Dat clash. HnM is finally defeated. Dat baby sucking that nipple. Tora is gone. Jie Mei and Garyu saved Ushio. Dat eye. Omamori saved Saya. Thank you. The youkai are going into the sea and turn to stone? Kagari is going to turn to stone? NO!!!!! Oh, thank god. Kagari is staying. Lucky Raishin getting to hold Kagari. lol at Ushio tuning to stone. Tora is back. And that was the end. Twas a good series. HnM losing because he took out his own eyes felt stupid. I'll miss my waifu's, Kagari, Saya, and Jun. They're so fine. |
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| Damn, this was sad as shit. Loved this anime and the action was pretty great. I wanted to know more about Hakumen and their real name. |
| I'm glad this series is loved. it was super cliche but it was enjoyable. I would of loved it more as a teenager or at 10 years old. Great series. this among many 90s manga like jojo is finally being animated |
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| Damn, this was a great and a very fitting finale to this fascinating series! Hakumen’s demolition at the expense of Tora’s life and just the whole buildup to that point after the exhialrating fight was brilliantly directed! With the assistance of the strong animation and the impactful soundtracks used, it really did sign off with a bang! Hakumen revealing his/her true form there to kill Ushio and Tora and with that supersonic speed really made this the action scenes a lot more gripping to watch! Anyhow, the backstory of Hakumen was a bit depressing and his/her final moments all the more emotional but damn that shot of the Spear penetrating through his/her throat with the sunset like scene was absolutely top notch. Great stuff! However, not everything ended on a happy merry note mainly because of Tora’s demise, poor Mayuko there crying at the end when listening to ‘Hambrugers’. Tora’s ingenious plan to conceal the blade against the blinded Hakumen(and that scene was absolutely shuddersome) gave them the edge, but what really caught my attention was the little detail of the past that was revealed then. Tora knew of everything all this time and the fact that he deliberately got himself stuck for 500 long years was just admirably surprising as a whole. Poor lad though, it really was the end of him there(unless those final moments of the episode suggested that he was resurrected but I’m not too sure about that honestly). Ushio was supposed to become a Beast too but thankfully the siblings were there for him and prevented that. Moreover, the youkais sacrificing themselves for the country was really saddening to see too. Hopefully, there will come a time when they can finally be back but I’m not betting on it happening since all of Japan would sink otherwise. It was nice to see the final touching moments between Reiko and Yuu’s fathers too and of Saya , her mother and Omamori-sama. Great conclusion to the final fight, over all. Ushio’s parents reuniting and their moments were very pleasing to watch! We got bits and pieces from all the other characters too, so very glad but I definitely thought we’d get the final touches for Asako x Ushio so a little let down by that. Final explanation while the ED was playing was a really nice addition too. All in all, a Great finale to what has been a very intense and gripping 2nd Season. Sound Department for this Season, in particular, took things to the next level in creating more and more of those gripping moments and just the ferocity of Hakumen was brilliantly portrayed when coupled with the glorious animation shots too. -> Overall: 8/10 to this 2nd Season and I’ll definitely miss this series! I only decided to watch this show because of the currently airing Karakuri Circus taking a little break but it honestly was totally worth the time, especially all the more because of this 2nd Season. I got to say though, this writer is superb at creating these frightful and intense backstories coupled with some really complicated plot. I’d love to see how Karakuri Circus proceeds from wherever it paused and onwards and will definitely be hoping for more anime adaptions from this writers pieces! |
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| Really impressed with this ending and you can really feel the old story telling influanced here. Just loved the whole thing and to be honest going to watch the original now I do wonder how this renewed version scales compared to it! In general this really was a very enjoyable watch I must say with a great and action packed closure! |
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| Eh, I enjoyed the first season much more than this one. Even by battle shounen standards, it felt extremely clichéd and convenient, especially in the second half, fighting against Hakuman. I also only really cared for Tora. 6/10. |
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