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Blind_Guardian said: I'm still enjoying the series, people can bitch all they want. I'm digging it, warts and all. It's still Berserk, after all. Being Berserk makes it more insulting thou |
| Keeps getting better by each passing episode. |
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| Seems that we finally left the Anime miss-mash and we finally entered the tower of conviction arc. Hopefully we won't have to worry about the story any more. |
| Much better episode than last week |
| well well well...what a nostalgia... |
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Nezperdian said: Leaving in this spoiler 4 images from the chapter 132 of the manga (148 if you add the first 16 that doesn't have number) so you can compare. They did a good job. Why compare the anime with the manga anyway? The manga is not "animated." Do you get it? The anime is "animated." Btw they replaced the dog apostle with the chicken apostle, it was hilarious. |
Comedian said: Blind_Guardian said: I'm still enjoying the series, people can bitch all they want. I'm digging it, warts and all. It's still Berserk, after all. Being Berserk makes it more insulting thou Exactly.... In any other series it wouldn't be surprising or out of the norm. But none would have expected for Berserk to get such nasty treatment. |
demonskul777 said: Rekien said: Soo..your point is 'stop complainign about something thats bad, because i've seen badder thing elsewhere?'......lol. I said that it wasn't so horrible, considering people are giving the animation a score of 1. it's below average, but not a 1. I'd give it a 3 to 4 personally. The fact that it's Berserk has caused many to give it the Bitter score of 1 lol.... who would have expected that one of the most beautiful manga would get one of the ugliest anime? |
danieltortoisee said: I could have sworn that Rickert had died in the Eclipse, but clearly I was wrong and he too somehow survived. I also don't know how Casca got away from Griffith, so I'm hoping we get some sort of explanation on that at some point. Either way, this is clearly setting up a new arc so is an okay start, though it got a lot more interesting when Mozgus the Grand Inquisitor was introduced. Which version have you seen? The film trilogy or the original 97 anime? Both have flaws. The original anime shows that Rickert broke his arm and was left behind, but cuts out the Skull Knight and everything after he bails camp. So, I'm assuming this, since you assumed he was probably eaten right there. And the films, again he's not present and we see some of his scenes where he's in witness, but his arm isn't broken; begging of the question of why he wasn't there with them to begin with. (I hate these films, if you couldn't tell, for their horrendous lapses in logic like this). Mezziaz said: danieltortoisee said: I could have sworn that Rickert had died in the Eclipse, but clearly I was wrong and he too somehow survived. I also don't know how Casca got away from Griffith, so I'm hoping we get some sort of explanation on that at some point. Watch the third Golden Age Arc movie. If this new series ever gets around to explaining or showing that properly it will probably be depicted worse than the movie anyways. And no, do not EVER watch these movies. |
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Reading the manga to find out if of course preferred but he wants answers for his questions in animation form the third Golden age film is his best and only option. |
Mezziaz said: Reading the manga to find out if of course preferred but he wants answers for his questions in animation form the third Golden age film is his best and only option. I'd just recommend volumes 13 and 14 if it's just that part. There's no reason to ever watch the 4C films, as far as I'm concerned. |
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RealCW said: Mezziaz said: Reading the manga to find out if of course preferred but he wants answers for his questions in animation form the third Golden age film is his best and only option. I'd just recommend volumes 13 and 14 if it's just that part. There's no reason to ever watch the 4C films, as far as I'm concerned. movies weren't as terrible as this 2016 anime...especially not the last one. Still improper adaptations nonetheless. I give the first and second movies 7.5/10 while I give the 3rd 8/10 |
YouniverSoulJul 22, 2016 3:48 PM
Movies are actually pretty good, yes the story is very compressed but that what you get with the amount of time the movie adaptation can muster. And unlike this tv show someone actually cared and tried. |
Comedian said: Movies are actually pretty good, yes the story is very compressed but that what you get with the amount of time the movie adaptation can muster. And unlike this tv show someone actually cared and tried. yeah if I watch the movies without prior knowledge of the mangas, I would have given them better ratings. The 2016 anime is terrible under any and all circumstances lol |
| Y helo thar, Sawashiro Miyuki Either this series is gradually getting better or my Stockholm syndrome is growing stronger |
YouniverSoul said: Comedian said: Movies are actually pretty good, yes the story is very compressed but that what you get with the amount of time the movie adaptation can muster. And unlike this tv show someone actually cared and tried. yeah if I watch the movies without prior knowledge of the mangas, I would have given them better ratings. The 2016 anime is terrible under any and all circumstances lol If I watched the films, no joke, without prior knowledge, I would've thought Berserk is one of the most poorly written things I have ever seen in my life. Really. I don't see how you couldn't notice the insane lack of logic and piss poor adapting of the story they really did. Everything, only when it needs to appear, suddenly appears with literally no setup whatsoever. A few examples: -The Skull Knight. Instead of appearing the same night as Guts' departure from the Hawks (ie, setting the Eclipse into motion), he appears right after Guts and Casca have sex... why? Because Charlotte talks about him immediately the next day. So, he had to appear right there, otherwise I'm convinced he wouldn't have appeared until the Eclipse. -Rickert doesn't break his arm in the films... so... he's not at the Eclipse, why? Where was he? Never explained, but he's exactly where he is in the manga, because... because. -The Snake Baron shadow is replaced by a giant Female Apostle walking through the woods. Wow, if she could turn gigantic, how did Guts kill her so easily? Or, going on movie-only appearances, why didn't she take that same size during the actual Eclipse? Oh, never explained. -Where was Guts during his year long absence? Good thing he just magically happened to appear to save Casca from Silat right when he did on a whim. -Puck was moved into town and NOT killed anywhere from then to 2+ years when Guts inadvertently saves him at the very last second? Haha. That sure is convenient. I could go on for hours, but those are just a few. Cared, my ass. The most untalented writers who can't even grasp how these little changes drastically alter all internal logic and make the story look like a friggin' mess of epic proportions. I've seen other Studio 4C films, and it's blatant to me now, Studio 4C has no clue what a "setup" is when it comes to anything writing. |
CrimsonCWJul 22, 2016 4:24 PM
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RealCW said: YouniverSoul said: yeah if I watch the movies without prior knowledge of the mangas, I would have given them better ratings. The 2016 anime is terrible under any and all circumstances lol If I watched the films, no joke, without prior knowledge, I would've thought Berserk is one of the most poorly written things I have ever seen. I don't see how you couldn't notice the insane lack of logic and piss poor adapting of the story they really did. Everything, only when it needs to appear, suddenly appears with literally no setup whatsoever. A few examples: -The Skull Knight. Instead of appearing the same night as Guts' departure from the Hawks (ie, setting the Eclipse into motion), he appears right after Guts and Casca have sex... why? Because Charlotte talks about him immediately the next day. So, he had to appear right there, otherwise I'm convinced he wouldn't have appeared until the Eclipse. -Rickert doesn't break his arm in the films... so... he's not at the Eclipse, why? Where was he? Never explained, but he's exactly where he is in the manga, because... because. -The Snake Baron shadow is replaced by a giant Female Apostle walking through the woods. Wow, if she could turn gigantic, how did Guts kill her so easily? Or, going on movie-only appearances, why didn't she take that same size during the actual Eclipse? Oh, never explained. -Where was Guts during his year long absence? Good thing he just magically happened to appear to save Casca from Silat right when he did on a whim. I could go on for hours, but those are just a few. Cared, my ass. The most untalented writers who can't even grasp how these little changes drastically alter all internal logic and make the story look like a friggin' mess of epic proportions. I've seen other Studio 4C films, and it's blatant to me now, Studio 4C has no clue what a "setup" is when it comes to writing. Yet again movie length not TV series, we accept such lapses and jumps because it is a movie and doesn't require or can show all of it. Some of your complaints are just nitpicks though. What they left out was adequate. Movies aren't judged by adaptation source purism standpoint. Considering the amount of material they had they did a descent if not good job story wise. |
ComedianJul 22, 2016 4:30 PM
| I'm a hardcore Berserk fan and I'm enjoying the new tv series so far. I see it more as a fanservice than anything else. The real story is happening in the manga for 30 years. While it's not very accurate and the graphics aren't that good, the core is still there and it's enough for me to find it enjoyable. I used to bitch about everything in comics, mangas or anime adaptations, but now I just watch it and see if I'm enjoying. |
| I actually really enjoyed this episode. The visuals are still shit but the story definitely makes up for it. First half reminded me of why I love Guts as a main character. Seeing his own inner conflicts was really interesting and it's nice to see that he's going after Casca now. Mozgus and his torturers were pretty brutal with that wheel. Luca hype  |
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| Just looking through the comments, it seems like I'm in the minority in thinking that this was the worst episode yet. The pacing was way too fast and was it just me or did it seem like the characters were talking over one another? Also I have to say that if I hadn't read the manga the sudden appearance of the demon baby would confuse the shit out of me, considering that's another thing that hasn't been explained at all in this series. If they don't explain anything about it, then that's going to cause further confusion in the Tower of Conviction arc for newbies :-S. Let's not even think about how they're going to handle Skull Knight either. On the plus side Luca's here! She's a great side character :-D. |
WandererReduxJul 22, 2016 5:09 PM
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| Pretty good episode, can't wait for next week. |
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| Guts getting some new armor & weapons. Time to find Caska. Ouch the breaking wheel. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| poor Guts that ptsd is never going to leave him |
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Rape horse survived! |
| Finally! Casca's back and black.. and white.. and black again... and retarded. Must've been tough for her plus Guts PTSD_ I'm honestly surprised that Rickert's still alive. Loving Guts' upgrades tho. Can't wait to see them in action. Boxhead Inquisitor with his Bible Thump and his torture buddies are savage. |
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rhap said: I see it more as a fan-service than anything else. This pretty much went through my head during the current episode. You're watching it to see how this director treats the characters and get an idea of how the chapters would look on screen, not to get any real meaning out of it. |
| Good work, this episode was the best so far. The animation is still pretty bad, but I don't mind it if there is no action. |
| Are we going to see Guts using "that" armor this season? |
| Omg that torture and whoa she's enjoying it |
| I am more concerned someone on Review section giving this Berserk the score 10. And mentioned SAO too. What the hell. |
| Fellaini is God |
| It keeps getting better. I don't care about animation |
| most decent episode so far mozgus arc is intense |
| Finally, a very satisfying episode. Especially the first half, where Guts is rethinking his current goals, and experiencing the traumatic events of the Eclipse over and over again, reminds me why I love Berserk. It's not just the gore and the violence, but also the philosophical elements, the (futile?) struggle of a single man against the whole world. More episodes like this one, although I have to admit it had a wacky pacing and some awkward camera direction, and the series could end up decently! |
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| Yeah, so, I quite liked this episode. More than any other episode so far it captured the spirit of the manga. I'll say that, like WandererRedux said, it was very fast when it came to the dialogue, like things were fastforwarded a bit. Still, I'm fairly happy that so much time was spent on just getting into Guts' head, though of course I have to question how effective it was to new people. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| The faces in this show man. Hilarious. Ok episode. Things sure got brutal there at the end, huh. |
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| casca's voice omg |
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kwonshin said: I am more concerned someone on Review section giving this Berserk the score 10. And mentioned SAO too. What the hell. The person's trolling, they mentioned 2003 FMA, 2006 F/sn and a Dreamcast game. |
Damn, they have already done meme.(especially, on right.) Only needed to change on Guts hairstyle. |
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| this was better than previous eps, Mozgus looks laughable though, i loled at his face change an him killing some dude with a blible |
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| Ok episode, I guess. Probably the best one so far. This conversation with Godo is one of my favorite moments from the manga, but it looked very bland here. I expected Godo's voice to be "wiser" and slower and the Beast of Darkness' voice to be more "monstrous", but ok. Mosguz does not look good at all with this art, but that was to be expected. |
Comedian said: RealCW said: If I watched the films, no joke, without prior knowledge, I would've thought Berserk is one of the most poorly written things I have ever seen. I don't see how you couldn't notice the insane lack of logic and piss poor adapting of the story they really did. Everything, only when it needs to appear, suddenly appears with literally no setup whatsoever. A few examples: -The Skull Knight. Instead of appearing the same night as Guts' departure from the Hawks (ie, setting the Eclipse into motion), he appears right after Guts and Casca have sex... why? Because Charlotte talks about him immediately the next day. So, he had to appear right there, otherwise I'm convinced he wouldn't have appeared until the Eclipse. -Rickert doesn't break his arm in the films... so... he's not at the Eclipse, why? Where was he? Never explained, but he's exactly where he is in the manga, because... because. -The Snake Baron shadow is replaced by a giant Female Apostle walking through the woods. Wow, if she could turn gigantic, how did Guts kill her so easily? Or, going on movie-only appearances, why didn't she take that same size during the actual Eclipse? Oh, never explained. -Where was Guts during his year long absence? Good thing he just magically happened to appear to save Casca from Silat right when he did on a whim. I could go on for hours, but those are just a few. Cared, my ass. The most untalented writers who can't even grasp how these little changes drastically alter all internal logic and make the story look like a friggin' mess of epic proportions. I've seen other Studio 4C films, and it's blatant to me now, Studio 4C has no clue what a "setup" is when it comes to writing. Yet again movie length not TV series, we accept such lapses and jumps because it is a movie and doesn't require or can show all of it. Some of your complaints are just nitpicks though. What they left out was adequate. Movies aren't judged by adaptation source purism standpoint. Considering the amount of material they had they did a descent if not good job story wise. These are more than nitpicks. These are major flaws with the story's internal logic, and believe me, good writing is almost entirely reliant on little background details. It only takes a couple of them to break an entire narrative. While I was watching, I thought of many ways they could've rectified almost every one of these flaws 1. Start off movie 3 WITH the Skull Knight and Guts' first night after departing, 2. Show and tell that Rickert broke his arm (same as the manga) and where Guts was, make time for it by cutting the horrendous fanservice Puck moment that shouldn't exist anyway, and only creates a plot hole. Done and done. Wow, that took me 2 minutes to do. But it's clear that Studio 4C either didn't care, or more likely, don't know how to write and adapt detailed content like Berserk. I do agree with you, however, that film is a very flawed medium for in-depth, long material... another perfect reason why those films never needed to exist, ever. |
CrimsonCWJul 23, 2016 1:17 PM
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| Lady Farnese's strenous efforts to not sway away from the path of right is captivating. The undeniable fact that she's aroused by torture per se is an impressive character development! Let's hope she lets her pristine lust surface and ripen in all its glory. Serpico is strangely interesting as well, I hope he sees more screentime! |
▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄ Just as humans have a prior right to existence over dogs by virtue of being more highly evolved and having a superior consciousness, so women have a prior right to existence over men. The elimination of any male is, therefore, a righteous and good act, an act highly beneficial to women as well as an act of mercy. |
| I remember reading the chapter of Guts reminiscing about his old days and being amazed at the depth of the character and his never ending battle between sanity and insanity. While it wasn't done justice fully, this episode still showcased some of that brilliance. Anyways, has there been any info on how long the series will be? I'm hoping it'll cover more than the tower of conviction arc because I'm not exactly a big fan of it. |
| 5 main aspects I base my ratings on: 1. Did DramaEnthusiast make a thread about it? 2. Is it better than Breaking Bad? 3. Did MellowJello recommend the shit out of it? 4. Has it caused a (very entertaining) shitstorm on MAL? 5. Is it actually good? Scratch the fifth point, it's not very relevant... |
Yami-Karasu said: It seems no one has brought this up so maybe it was just me. However, the voice acting for Guts's inner demon seemed a bit tame. Not that it needs to be played as a barely comprehensible growling or anything of the sort but for a manifestation of pure bloodlust and hate, the wolf just seemed a bit too composed. (Reminded me of the Basilisk in the Finnish dub of PS2 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. Could not find a clip but that was traumatising.) Do you prefer the anime or the PS2 version (which features Guts' original actor Nobutoshi Canna), by chance? Skip to 10:30 |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
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