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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh boy, the PTSD moments that Guts experiences keeps coming back about Casca.. Those scenes felt really nostalgic. Not really used to Judeau's character design yet..but I guess his voice works somewhat well for now. On the other hand, I can't take Mozgus seriously for some reason lol. The way they presented the torture scenes were painful to watch. Not bad for the episode though, getting better with the recent developments. |
TyrelJul 24, 2017 8:00 PM
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| I guess the Casca whitewashing has stopped... for now. Well, at least we got to see best girl Luca |
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| Average episode I guess, Build up for Conviction. Rickert :D Lot of retrospection by Guts this episode, Thinking back on a number of things. It was cool to see him find his Conviction to save Casca. There he is, Mozgus. Never liked the guy. The crowd reactions to the wheel punishment was just weird, Fair amount of censoring but the intensity of the scene was still there. Nice that we finally get to see Luca. |
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I can't believe that I'm actually laughing at Berserk WHAT ARE THOSE FACES LOL |
 Judeau knows it... |
That easy they are losing there minds and justifying what is going on before them. That kind of the point of bezerk justification of madness and how humans do that at all points of there life. Every thing "good work" or ppl who try to justified the means are this way. Its all a level of madness. |
Chaotic_beauty said: They finally did it, they made a mediocre episode opposed to shit! 5/10 Bravo guys, this really is the berserk we dreamed of and deserved what a time to be alive I couldn't have said it better myself! There was actually a lot of 2D in this episode compared to the first 3 episodes, and most of it looked decent-to-good - with the exception of the shot of Rickert above. Too bad it started to fall apart late in the episode, where it returned to form with stiff CGI, mediocre 2D, and poor direction. That said, I finally felt like they were actually trying in this episode. That's something I couldn't say about episodes 1 & 2 at all, and could only say for about 1/3 of episode 3. |
RengifuJul 22, 2016 9:27 AM
| I could have sworn that Rickert had died in the Eclipse, but clearly I was wrong and he too somehow survived. I also don't know how Casca got away from Griffith, so I'm hoping we get some sort of explanation on that at some point. Either way, this is clearly setting up a new arc so is an okay start, though it got a lot more interesting when Mozgus the Grand Inquisitor was introduced. |
danieltortoisee said: I could have sworn that Rickert had died in the Eclipse, but clearly I was wrong and he too somehow survived. I also don't know how Casca got away from Griffith, so I'm hoping we get some sort of explanation on that at some point. Watch the third Golden Age Arc movie. If this new series ever gets around to explaining or showing that properly it will probably be depicted worse than the movie anyways. |
| That was a nice episode, better than the previous ones. They're enjoying what they're seeing like in the manga. You should check again. |
NobodyKnowJul 22, 2016 9:57 AM
| >Teaches people about God >By hitting them in the head with the Bible. My man Mozgus. Good episode overall, too bad the show isn't in original style so the torturers would look more dark and scary. |
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| This episode was pretty on point. Voice acting was a lot better than the previous one, to the point I'd say it's actually good. Bits of character developement and all in all a faithful adaptation ( just a little faster than the manga, happily, seeing as people are already complaining it's too slow lmao) Casca's skin colour is ?? fluid ?? (also stop complaining about the CGI lmao, you've made your point. like this isn't even bad, i've seen a lot worse 2D animation) |
| I held on long enough to see Mozgus, that's really all I wanted. The CGI hasn't really gotten any better or grown on me like it has in other CGI shows like Ajin, so I guess I can leave this behind now. |
 That horse totally looks like its checking out Farnese... |
| That was brutal, religion after all. Casca finally appeared. |
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ROLF! You made my day with that observation! Since I promised never to rant about the CG and animation again, I'll make a couple of positive observations. NUmber one: It seems whitewashed Casca is simply a OP phenomenon and she looks the way she's supposed too in this episode. Number two: Luca who is one of my favorite characters in the manga seems to be voiced by none other than Miyuki Sawashiro who is one of my favorite seeiyus. Or am I mistaken? |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| Was hoping the torture scene was a bit more brutal (showing more of the gory details). Aside from the crappy CGI, it was an all right episode. |
| Oh lol that replacement apostle looked so shitty that I actually burst out laughing. Now I see why they didn't come up with an original Apostle for the previous ep and used the one from the manga lol Yea it was a few second flashback, but they could atleast pretend that they actually put some effort to this crap(they cleary don't) I liked the part where Guts reminiscences about the good old days, back when everyone was still hand drawn lol So I guess the Eclipse screwed up Guts so bad that he now sees everything in CGI. Well atleast this ep actually follows the manga, can't complain about that. |
Rekien said: demonskul777 said: This episode was pretty on point. Voice acting was a lot better than the previous one, to the point I'd say it's actually good. Bits of character developement and all in all a faithful adaptation ( just a little faster than the manga, happily, seeing as people are already complaining it's too slow lmao) Casca's skin colour is ?? fluid ?? (also stop complaining about the CGI lmao, you've made your point. like this isn't even bad, i've seen a lot worse 2D animation) Soo..your point is 'stop complainign about something thats bad, because i've seen badder thing elsewhere?'......lol. No, I said - I quote: "also stop complaining about the CGI lmao, you've made your point." I'm saying that it's the same old complaint over and over and that it's exagerated as the series goes on, at this point everyone is saying "the animation is bad" every episode, a pointless remark on an episode discussion of a series with overall bad animation. I said that it wasn't so horrible, considering people are giving the animation a score of 1. it's below average, but not a 1. I'd give it a 3 to 4 personally. |
| I can't wait for the next episode. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
ShadowGilgamesh said: I held on long enough to see Mozgus, that's really all I wanted. The CGI hasn't really gotten any better or grown on me like it has in other CGI shows like Ajin, so I guess I can leave this behind now. Ajin was so good, right? but they failed Berserk big one |
| If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| I'm still enjoying the series, people can bitch all they want. I'm digging it, warts and all. It's still Berserk, after all. |
Blind_Guardian said: I'm still enjoying the series, people can bitch all they want. I'm digging it, warts and all. It's still Berserk, after all. Being Berserk makes it more insulting thou |
| Keeps getting better by each passing episode. |
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| Seems that we finally left the Anime miss-mash and we finally entered the tower of conviction arc. Hopefully we won't have to worry about the story any more. |
| Much better episode than last week |
| well well well...what a nostalgia... |
| Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.~Winston Churchill "Fate of the universe will be Decided as it SHOULD be, in MORTAL KOMBAT!" ~Elder Gods "Justice WILL Prevail?" "But OF COURSE IT WILL!! WHOEVER WINS, BECOMES THE JUSTICE!!!" ~Donquixote Doflamingo (King, Pirate, Shichibukai, Philosopher(?) (One Piece)) |
Nezperdian said: Leaving in this spoiler 4 images from the chapter 132 of the manga (148 if you add the first 16 that doesn't have number) so you can compare. They did a good job. Why compare the anime with the manga anyway? The manga is not "animated." Do you get it? The anime is "animated." Btw they replaced the dog apostle with the chicken apostle, it was hilarious. |
Comedian said: Blind_Guardian said: I'm still enjoying the series, people can bitch all they want. I'm digging it, warts and all. It's still Berserk, after all. Being Berserk makes it more insulting thou Exactly.... In any other series it wouldn't be surprising or out of the norm. But none would have expected for Berserk to get such nasty treatment. |
demonskul777 said: Rekien said: Soo..your point is 'stop complainign about something thats bad, because i've seen badder thing elsewhere?'......lol. I said that it wasn't so horrible, considering people are giving the animation a score of 1. it's below average, but not a 1. I'd give it a 3 to 4 personally. The fact that it's Berserk has caused many to give it the Bitter score of 1 lol.... who would have expected that one of the most beautiful manga would get one of the ugliest anime? |
danieltortoisee said: I could have sworn that Rickert had died in the Eclipse, but clearly I was wrong and he too somehow survived. I also don't know how Casca got away from Griffith, so I'm hoping we get some sort of explanation on that at some point. Either way, this is clearly setting up a new arc so is an okay start, though it got a lot more interesting when Mozgus the Grand Inquisitor was introduced. Which version have you seen? The film trilogy or the original 97 anime? Both have flaws. The original anime shows that Rickert broke his arm and was left behind, but cuts out the Skull Knight and everything after he bails camp. So, I'm assuming this, since you assumed he was probably eaten right there. And the films, again he's not present and we see some of his scenes where he's in witness, but his arm isn't broken; begging of the question of why he wasn't there with them to begin with. (I hate these films, if you couldn't tell, for their horrendous lapses in logic like this). Mezziaz said: danieltortoisee said: I could have sworn that Rickert had died in the Eclipse, but clearly I was wrong and he too somehow survived. I also don't know how Casca got away from Griffith, so I'm hoping we get some sort of explanation on that at some point. Watch the third Golden Age Arc movie. If this new series ever gets around to explaining or showing that properly it will probably be depicted worse than the movie anyways. And no, do not EVER watch these movies. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
Reading the manga to find out if of course preferred but he wants answers for his questions in animation form the third Golden age film is his best and only option. |
Mezziaz said: Reading the manga to find out if of course preferred but he wants answers for his questions in animation form the third Golden age film is his best and only option. I'd just recommend volumes 13 and 14 if it's just that part. There's no reason to ever watch the 4C films, as far as I'm concerned. |
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
RealCW said: Mezziaz said: Reading the manga to find out if of course preferred but he wants answers for his questions in animation form the third Golden age film is his best and only option. I'd just recommend volumes 13 and 14 if it's just that part. There's no reason to ever watch the 4C films, as far as I'm concerned. movies weren't as terrible as this 2016 anime...especially not the last one. Still improper adaptations nonetheless. I give the first and second movies 7.5/10 while I give the 3rd 8/10 |
YouniverSoulJul 22, 2016 3:48 PM
Movies are actually pretty good, yes the story is very compressed but that what you get with the amount of time the movie adaptation can muster. And unlike this tv show someone actually cared and tried. |
Comedian said: Movies are actually pretty good, yes the story is very compressed but that what you get with the amount of time the movie adaptation can muster. And unlike this tv show someone actually cared and tried. yeah if I watch the movies without prior knowledge of the mangas, I would have given them better ratings. The 2016 anime is terrible under any and all circumstances lol |
| Y helo thar, Sawashiro Miyuki Either this series is gradually getting better or my Stockholm syndrome is growing stronger |
YouniverSoul said: Comedian said: Movies are actually pretty good, yes the story is very compressed but that what you get with the amount of time the movie adaptation can muster. And unlike this tv show someone actually cared and tried. yeah if I watch the movies without prior knowledge of the mangas, I would have given them better ratings. The 2016 anime is terrible under any and all circumstances lol If I watched the films, no joke, without prior knowledge, I would've thought Berserk is one of the most poorly written things I have ever seen in my life. Really. I don't see how you couldn't notice the insane lack of logic and piss poor adapting of the story they really did. Everything, only when it needs to appear, suddenly appears with literally no setup whatsoever. A few examples: -The Skull Knight. Instead of appearing the same night as Guts' departure from the Hawks (ie, setting the Eclipse into motion), he appears right after Guts and Casca have sex... why? Because Charlotte talks about him immediately the next day. So, he had to appear right there, otherwise I'm convinced he wouldn't have appeared until the Eclipse. -Rickert doesn't break his arm in the films... so... he's not at the Eclipse, why? Where was he? Never explained, but he's exactly where he is in the manga, because... because. -The Snake Baron shadow is replaced by a giant Female Apostle walking through the woods. Wow, if she could turn gigantic, how did Guts kill her so easily? Or, going on movie-only appearances, why didn't she take that same size during the actual Eclipse? Oh, never explained. -Where was Guts during his year long absence? Good thing he just magically happened to appear to save Casca from Silat right when he did on a whim. -Puck was moved into town and NOT killed anywhere from then to 2+ years when Guts inadvertently saves him at the very last second? Haha. That sure is convenient. I could go on for hours, but those are just a few. Cared, my ass. The most untalented writers who can't even grasp how these little changes drastically alter all internal logic and make the story look like a friggin' mess of epic proportions. I've seen other Studio 4C films, and it's blatant to me now, Studio 4C has no clue what a "setup" is when it comes to anything writing. |
CrimsonCWJul 22, 2016 4:24 PM
| Life can be cruel and unfair. At worst it can traumatize and cripple you. The desire for wanting things to return to the way they were can cost everything and changes nothing. The best way is to keep moving forward, struggle on. Anger can be powerful but can only get you so far. Let people into your life even if some of them leave you in time. Fight. Like. Hell. For everything and everyone you love. Always. |
RealCW said: YouniverSoul said: yeah if I watch the movies without prior knowledge of the mangas, I would have given them better ratings. The 2016 anime is terrible under any and all circumstances lol If I watched the films, no joke, without prior knowledge, I would've thought Berserk is one of the most poorly written things I have ever seen. I don't see how you couldn't notice the insane lack of logic and piss poor adapting of the story they really did. Everything, only when it needs to appear, suddenly appears with literally no setup whatsoever. A few examples: -The Skull Knight. Instead of appearing the same night as Guts' departure from the Hawks (ie, setting the Eclipse into motion), he appears right after Guts and Casca have sex... why? Because Charlotte talks about him immediately the next day. So, he had to appear right there, otherwise I'm convinced he wouldn't have appeared until the Eclipse. -Rickert doesn't break his arm in the films... so... he's not at the Eclipse, why? Where was he? Never explained, but he's exactly where he is in the manga, because... because. -The Snake Baron shadow is replaced by a giant Female Apostle walking through the woods. Wow, if she could turn gigantic, how did Guts kill her so easily? Or, going on movie-only appearances, why didn't she take that same size during the actual Eclipse? Oh, never explained. -Where was Guts during his year long absence? Good thing he just magically happened to appear to save Casca from Silat right when he did on a whim. I could go on for hours, but those are just a few. Cared, my ass. The most untalented writers who can't even grasp how these little changes drastically alter all internal logic and make the story look like a friggin' mess of epic proportions. I've seen other Studio 4C films, and it's blatant to me now, Studio 4C has no clue what a "setup" is when it comes to writing. Yet again movie length not TV series, we accept such lapses and jumps because it is a movie and doesn't require or can show all of it. Some of your complaints are just nitpicks though. What they left out was adequate. Movies aren't judged by adaptation source purism standpoint. Considering the amount of material they had they did a descent if not good job story wise. |
ComedianJul 22, 2016 4:30 PM
| I'm a hardcore Berserk fan and I'm enjoying the new tv series so far. I see it more as a fanservice than anything else. The real story is happening in the manga for 30 years. While it's not very accurate and the graphics aren't that good, the core is still there and it's enough for me to find it enjoyable. I used to bitch about everything in comics, mangas or anime adaptations, but now I just watch it and see if I'm enjoying. |
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