JizzyHitler said: fst said: Considering im seeing an equal amount of people praising its darker turn as i do people condemning it I'd say its just divisive due to its unconventionality/bleakness. I'm not saying its flawless, I'm saying its one of the biggest risks ive seen a show taken especially in this franchise. jizzy I'm pretty sure you're the only one who would even attempt to argue this was a good direction to take it. It just needs to follow through in its final episode and not pull a deus ex machina. it was a high risk low reward route in which to take the series though Like there's nothing unconventional about having a dark and tragic ending but this is not the way to fucking do it |
fst said: Its very unconventional to have a show make the protagonists lose, its not that its just dark its that its making a commentary on how violence and revolution gets glorified in storylinesg as some greater good, and that senseless sacrifices all amount to something. IBO is basically saying fuck that reality is cruel and war is even crueler. Its what stardust memory TRIED to do and failed miserably at. IBO succeeded at creating a super gray conflict where the "villains" make a good case for their existence in the greater balance of the world despite their misdeeds to stay there in opposition to the protagonist's role in the world balance even if they are arguably far less morally corrupted but are more overall harmful. It builds up this row row fight the power mindset throughout its first half only to show the consequences of it as the show goes on rather than glorify fighting the establishment is always a pro like most shows tend to do especially in this franchise which only really dabbled with this concept in like 079.JizzyHitler said: Considering im seeing an equal amount of people praising its darker turn as i do people condemning it I'd say its just divisive due to its unconventionality/bleakness. I'm not saying its flawless, I'm saying its one of the biggest risks ive seen a show taken especially in this franchise. It just needs to follow through in its final episode and not pull a deus ex machina. it was a high risk low reward route in which to take the series though Like there's nothing unconventional about having a dark and tragic ending but this is not the way to fucking do it Thats whats ballsy not just the fact its dark, its nihilistic and cynical but it turns the series from a standard action show done well to a show with an actual purpose. I'm not saying its handled flawlessly believe me there are alot of things I'd of changed these past few episodes with one of the big ones making these events start like 8 episodes ago but the overall effect this has on the series as a whole is far more of a benefit than it takes away as long as this final episode continues to follow through on the tragedy without fetishization it all of the sudden which alot of the darker gundam like thunderbolt and zeta fell victim to. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| MFW THE GINTAMA ANNOUNCEMENT WAS JUST RERUNS OF PAST EPISODES OMG WHY YOU DO DIS |
| Your honor, I never wrote this post. |
Gintamafags have had it too good for too long. |
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| gaaaaaaaay Though I guess its good news that its not jumping into silver soul arc just yet, apparently alot of manga readers are saying it'd be super rushed if it ended in less than 12 weeks. Maybe the silver soul arc will air in summer or something cause they did make a preview for it already. Frankly i would of greatly preferred them just fucking the pacing over in favor of adapting the missed chapters rather than this. I dont know it doesnt help that i think the rakyou arc was one of the weaker arcs in the show. This is true |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Another Gintama season ends, another one in the top 10. Can't wait till the cycle starts again one more time. JizzyHitler said: I dont know it doesnt help that i think the rakyou arc was one of the weaker arcs in the show. I'm glad I'm not alone there, It's the only TV season I rated below 9. |
SuperRed said: yeah same but its also kind of in an unfair position, its the only season that was just a single arc focusing exclusively on a very small group of characters, even enchousen was able to show every single recurring character again and go through 3 arcs. Rakyou arc was still just kind of less exciting than the past 2 arcs though looking past that but i also largely base that on the past 2 arcs being far more focused on tragedy and changing the status quo but the rakyou arc honestly felt like a return to tone to how the show was before the point of no return and that is surprisingly a negative on its part. When you look through this arc it was borderline a comedy arc for the large majority of it with some drama sprinkled on here and there save for the climax.Another Gintama season ends, another one in the top 10. Can't wait till the cycle starts again one more time. JizzyHitler said: I dont know it doesnt help that i think the rakyou arc was one of the weaker arcs in the show. I'm glad I'm not alone there, It's the only TV season I rated below 9. Largely i do think its a bit unfair to compare it as its own season but also think it also just wasn't the series at its best at either comedy nor drama. Still I think it was an alright conclusion to kagura's plotline. More hyped for silver soul just cause more fan favorite characters are back. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: SuperRed said: yeah same but its also kind of in an unfair position, its the only season that was just a single arc focusing exclusively on a very small group of characters, even enchousen was able to show every single recurring character again and go through 3 arcs. Rakyou arc was still just kind of less exciting than the past 2 arcs though looking past that but i also largely base that on the past 2 arcs being far more focused on tragedy and changing the status quo but the rakyou arc honestly felt like a return to tone to how the show was before the point of no return and that is surprisingly a negative on its part. When you look through this arc it was borderline a comedy arc for the large majority of it with some drama sprinkled on here and there save for the climax.Another Gintama season ends, another one in the top 10. Can't wait till the cycle starts again one more time. I'm glad I'm not alone there, It's the only TV season I rated below 9. Largely i do think its a bit unfair to compare it as its own season but also think it also just wasn't the series at its best at either comedy nor drama. Still I think it was an alright conclusion to kagura's plotline. More hyped for silver soul just cause more fan favorite characters are back. The lack of hurt this season. |
CkanMar 26, 2017 6:41 PM
SuperRed said: yeah pretty much, really i think lack of variety and generally slower pacing is what hurt the arc. It was just very standard.JizzyHitler said: yeah same but its also kind of in an unfair position, its the only season that was just a single arc focusing exclusively on a very small group of characters, even enchousen was able to show every single recurring character again and go through 3 arcs. Rakyou arc was still just kind of less exciting than the past 2 arcs though looking past that but i also largely base that on the past 2 arcs being far more focused on tragedy and changing the status quo but the rakyou arc honestly felt like a return to tone to how the show was before the point of no return and that is surprisingly a negative on its part. When you look through this arc it was borderline a comedy arc for the large majority of it with some drama sprinkled on here and there save for the climax. Largely i do think its a bit unfair to compare it as its own season but also think it also just wasn't the series at its best at either comedy nor drama. Still I think it was an alright conclusion to kagura's plotline. More hyped for silver soul just cause more fan favorite characters are back. The lack of Madao and Shinsengumi guys hurt this season. What ive seen of silver soul arc looks significantly better |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| I don't know if it's because of I have softened up on the series or Pierrot doing something good for once but these episodes of the final war arc in Naruto have been mostly enjoyable to watch compared to when I read the manga a few years ago. It helps that most of the ost is really good. |
SuperRed said: The manga final arc was a trainwreck but perriot actually seemed to really soften alot of blows and even outright salvage some scenes from what i saw. I honestly got to hand it to them.I don't know if it's because of I have softened up on the series or Pierrot doing something good for once but these episodes of the final war arc in Naruto have been mostly enjoyable to watch compared to when I read the manga a few years ago. It helps that most of the ost is really good. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Finally crowbycat made this vid |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Nah I'm with you guys, I liked how this Gintama season finished and all but honestly it felt like a setup arc and it's pretty obvious too given how it ended etc |
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| I honestly think its issue was its tone, it couldnt decide between comedy and drama until the very end and got caught in between with both sides kind of not reaching the highs they normally do, farewell shinsengmi banked on being dramatic for a large majority of the time and placed its comedy well to not disrupt the flow of the plot/action where as rakyou was shooting jokes at really inappropriate times. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Nier automata seems to be selling pretty well from the looks of things, almost 200K on steam and apparently close to half a mil on ps4 from estimates. Maybe it will actually crack a million sales in the long run due to positive reception. Keep in mind this game is made on a shoestring budget with a small staff at platinum newcomers trying to prove themselves to higher ups at the company. only about 700K may not sound impressive but this is probably the most money any entry in this franchise has made. I doubt we will ever get a AAA drakengard, probably for the best, but I'm optimistic the next game will actually have a budget. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: I honestly think its issue was its tone, it couldnt decide between comedy and drama until the very end and got caught in between with both sides kind of not reaching the highs they normally do, farewell shinsengmi banked on being dramatic for a large majority of the time and placed its comedy well to not disrupt the flow of the plot/action where as rakyou was shooting jokes at really inappropriate times. That headbutting scene with Umibozu was especially bad tbh. |
| Why does language have to be so limiting? |
That's not that unconventional. 00 did it for the first season. Thunderbolt does it. I would argue WitP counts, as would 0083 and Zeta. But none of them do it the way IBO is currently going about it. JizzyHitler said: its not that its just dark its that its making a commentary on how violence and revolution gets glorified in storylinesg as some greater good, and that senseless sacrifices all amount to something. IBO is basically saying fuck that reality is cruel and war is even crueler. Yea but here's the fucking thing: That doesn't make for a good story. ESPECIALLY when you consider the last few episodes in the context of the ending of the first episode of season 1. If they're going to go that route, it works better when you do it with somebody that's not starting in the shittiest possible situation. It works better when you don't you don't put so much into the protagonists. It would have worked with McGillis, if they hadn't already set him up as a far more competent character in 1st season. The thing is people don't actually want realism in their fiction. They may desire authenticity, and they always desire not to be thrown off by things that are out of place, but audiences do not desire realism. If I wanted realism, I'd go read a memoir. But then again memoirs (at least WW2 memoirs) never touch on this aspect. They're mostly written by victors. Very few came out of Japan because of the whole "never surrender" thing (though there is one by a Japanese destroyer captain that is supposedly a very good read) and the German ones are all pre-occupied with apologism. JizzyHitler said: Its what stardust memory TRIED to do and failed miserably at. IBO succeeded at creating a super gray conflict where the "villains" make a good case for their existence in the greater balance of the world despite their misdeeds to stay there in opposition to the protagonist's role in the world balance even if they are arguably far less morally corrupted but are more overall harmful. Ok, I could buy that, if Iok and Carta weren't part of Gjallarhorn. Mostly Iok. JizzyHitler said: It builds up this row row fight the power mindset throughout its first half only to show the consequences of it as the show goes on rather than glorify fighting the establishment is always a pro like most shows tend to do especially in this franchise which only really dabbled with this concept in like 079. Again, this would be less of a problem if it didn't feel so much like they were goaded into it because of all the shit that went down in the middle of the season. JizzyHitler said: Thats whats ballsy not just the fact its dark, its nihilistic and cynical but it turns the series from a standard action show done well to a show with an actual purpose. I'm not saying its handled flawlessly believe me there are alot of things I'd of changed these past few episodes with one of the big ones making these events start like 8 episodes ago but the overall effect this has on the series as a whole is far more of a benefit than it takes away as long as this final episode continues to follow through on the tragedy without fetishization it all of the sudden which alot of the darker gundam like thunderbolt and zeta fell victim to. It's a fucking toy commercial what's wrong with a bit of fetishization. But again this isn't something that Gundam has never attempted to do, it's not even something Gundam has never succeeded with before. It just falls really flat for me because the execution is so poor relative to everything up to this point. To my eyes, they essentially brought about the downfall by, out of nowhere, cranking up the idiocy level on a character who's capabilities were already quite clearly spelled out. They had a good thing and they killed it so I can't help but be a bit :Reee: about the whole affair |
fstMar 26, 2017 7:20 PM
| IBO spoiler shit Frankly it was only after these past few episodes that the show has actually felt like everything actually feels like they've come together. theres build up for this type of end scattered throughout the entire series. Some of it just wasnt as noticeable until now. The death of biscuit back in S1 was massive foreshadowing to everything. |
JizzyHitlerMar 26, 2017 8:06 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
JizzyHitler said: imagine Drakengard with FFXV level of workNier automata seems to be selling pretty well from the looks of things, almost 200K on steam and apparently close to half a mil on ps4 from estimates. Maybe it will actually crack a million sales in the long run due to positive reception. Keep in mind this game is made on a shoestring budget with a small staff at platinum newcomers trying to prove themselves to higher ups at the company. only about 700K may not sound impressive but this is probably the most money any entry in this franchise has made. I doubt we will ever get a AAA drakengard, probably for the best, but I'm optimistic the next game will actually have a budget. my dick is pulsating with the tremendous amount of awesome |
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| These Go! Princess transformations really are fabulous. The Cure character designs are great this time around too. Cure Mermaid's namesake really is fitting with the way her hair looks and flows when she moves. I liked the way Haruka met Minami btw. Fun episode. |
i like this man |
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| Go! Princess's third episode was meh. Not bad, but meh. Hype for the next episode though; I get the feeling I'll like the girl who will become the third Cure. On a related note... >Reading Go! Princess episode discussions >Okashi(?!) >Stats page >Dropped on episode 3 >Back to episode discussions >Loved the first episode >Surprised in the second episode because "this is actually good" >Thought the third was weak but appeared to intend to continue watching @Okashi What happened? |
TripleSRank said: Go! Princess's third episode was meh. Not bad, but meh. Hype for the next episode though; I get the feeling I'll like the girl who will become the third Cure. On a related note... >Reading Go! Princess episode discussions >Okashi(?!) >Stats page >Dropped on episode 3 >Back to episode discussions >Loved the first episode >Surprised in the second episode because "this is actually good" >Thought the third was weak but appeared to intend to continue watching @Okashi What happened? Oh yeah I watched that... kinda. I don't remember why I dropped it tbh. Maybe I should continue watching :ThinkingEmoji: |
| Your honor, I never wrote this post. |
Okashi said: TripleSRank said: Go! Princess's third episode was meh. Not bad, but meh. Hype for the next episode though; I get the feeling I'll like the girl who will become the third Cure. On a related note... >Reading Go! Princess episode discussions >Okashi(?!) >Stats page >Dropped on episode 3 >Back to episode discussions >Loved the first episode >Surprised in the second episode because "this is actually good" >Thought the third was weak but appeared to intend to continue watching @Okashi What happened? Oh yeah I watched that... kinda. I don't remember why I dropped it tbh. Maybe I should continue watching :ThinkingEmoji: With Sape, Tenth, and myself already watching it I'd say the more the merrier. I can vouch for its charm if nothing else. :3 |
Okashi said: TripleSRank said: Go! Princess's third episode was meh. Not bad, but meh. Hype for the next episode though; I get the feeling I'll like the girl who will become the third Cure. On a related note... >Reading Go! Princess episode discussions >Okashi(?!) >Stats page >Dropped on episode 3 >Back to episode discussions >Loved the first episode >Surprised in the second episode because "this is actually good" >Thought the third was weak but appeared to intend to continue watching @Okashi What happened? Oh yeah I watched that... kinda. I don't remember why I dropped it tbh. Maybe I should continue watching :ThinkingEmoji: do it |
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| Just finished the Generation of Chaos trilogy, and wow, sasuga Idea Factory. The second OVA managed to be the worst one somehow, despite Nana Mizuki and Kamiya Hiroshi voicing two of the total three characters making an appearance. |
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| tfw the games I ordered arrived as soon as I got free time. |
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| Mfw a Precure who who doesn't want to be a Precure... I have mixed feelings about this. I definitely didn't expect that from this series though. I actually have a lot of mixed feelings about Kirara, but I'll put them on hold for now. She's definitely likable. Gorgeous transformation too. Having two incidents in one episode was a nice pace change, and it didn't feel rushed either. Edit: Yeah, I'd definitely say I like Kirara. The double rejection just threw me for a loop. |
TripleSRankMar 27, 2017 1:41 AM
| So a news thread has me thinking: are manga writers actually "mangaka"? |
| mfw I start reading this. https://myanimelist.net/manga/104048/Omujo |
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| mfw breastfeeding manga. |
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| Holy crap, SukaSuka finally has a PV. |
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Ckan said: So a news thread has me thinking: are manga writers actually "mangaka"? You mean like it would be more correct to say artist rather than writer, since it refers to drawing rather than writing? Yeah, it probably would be more acceptable to say author if not artist. I also dislike the notion that it might insinuate that somehow the story is more important than the art, as if they don't correlate to provide for a full aesthetic experience. |
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corwin_r said: Ckan said: So a news thread has me thinking: are manga writers actually "mangaka"? You mean like it would be more correct to say artist rather than writer, since it refers to drawing rather than writing? Yeah, it probably would be more acceptable to say author if not artist. I also dislike the notion that it might insinuate that somehow the story is more important than the art, as if they don't correlate to provide for a full aesthetic experience. I should've been clearer - When a manga is made by a writer-artist team, is the writer considered a 'mangaka'? Which I guess should come down to the actual meaning and use of 'manga-ka' in Japan particularly. e.g. with the Death Note/Bakuman duo: is the writer, Ohba Tsugumi, a 'mangaka'? |
| Hmm, that might be the reason why a team of a writer and an artist would pick a common pen name. I kind of remember from Bakuman that the public referred to them as Ashirogi Muto, rather than their individual identities when addressing their work. For colabs like Hokuto no Ken or Crying Freeman, with the names revealed in the open, I'd say that the artist is referred to as the mangaka, though I might be wrong. |
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| Man, that SukaSuka's PV singer is really good. Almost makes me watch this random show that's probably not very good. |
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TripleSRank said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-PhilosophicusWhy does language have to be so limiting? |
Zergneedsfood said: what did he mean by this?TripleSRank said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractatus_Logico-PhilosophicusWhy does language have to be so limiting? |
| "G. E. Moore originally suggested the work's Latin title as homage to the Tractatus Theologico-Politicus by Baruch Spinoza.[2]" |
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Ckan said: All our attempts to be badass and explain the universe is actually just misappropriation of language, that we are constrained by our human language that does not do what we want it to do.what did he mean by this? Don't despair though. Just try using words correctly. |
ZergneedsfoodMar 27, 2017 7:09 AM
silverwalls said: Okashi said: Oh yeah I watched that... kinda. I don't remember why I dropped it tbh. Maybe I should continue watching :ThinkingEmoji: do it I'm only on ep 9, soooooo slow. |
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| http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-03-27/sagrada-reset-anime-gets-24-episodes/.113842 HypeHypeHype My gut's tell me that this will be AOTS on spring. |
 Kickstarter for Rokujouma is fully funded. Good work everyone. Lets wait for the result of our hard work together. |
That was beautiful. |
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| Too bad it's only 12 episodes. ;_; Hoping it ends up getting some interest and maybe pushes for a split cour for a full adaptation. |
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| Too funny @JizzyHitler |
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NeoAnkara said: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-03-27/sagrada-reset-anime-gets-24-episodes/.113842 HypeHypeHype My gut's tell me that this will be AOTS on spring. Oh hey this looks it could be pretty dec- Katsuhiko Takayama is in charge of the series scripts. Oh god why. |
| That final campfire scene in FFXV, man. |
| Tenth dont be so hayai! You're gonna leave us behind ;_; |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
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