Kagerou Daze (light novel)
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| Good Ep, I think. Wanna see more before saying something about the serie. |
| sooooo disappointed. it's just my opinion but Shintaro from the manga and Shintaro from the anime are like two different characters. in the manga he's just a lame loser crying because he spilled a drink on his keyboard. in the anime? I feel like his personality is very shallow. I loved Shintaro from the manga, but in the anime? no. also, I loved how they introduced Kano, my fav character, in the manga. in anime it was... meh. the whole pisode was meh. it's like they focused on making all the characters look hot and sacrificed their personalities, at least Shintaro's. I had been waiting for so long for a Kagepro anime and I'm extremely disappointed. I don't really like Shaft in general and well I wish a different studio was animating it. they changed a lot and made it just so Shaft-ish I wanna vomit (I really preferred how places, especially Shintaro's room, looked in the manga/PVs) I love Kagepro to death, so I'll just pretend that only novels, songs and the manga exist (though I'm still gonna watch it just because it's Kagepro, but I don't have high expectations anymore) on the other hand, I liked the opening :p the only good thing about the anime (haha wow so many spoilers in just the opening, well done Shaft) |
| Ermm...question! Non-LN/manga reader here. Was Ene supposed to annoy me? If that's truly how her character is then good job, she accomplished that goal with flying colors. If not well damn. I love her VA and enjoy hearing her voice but Ene's really testing my patience. Please tell me she's really supposed to be annoying so I can adjust and try to view her from a different perspective. Other than that, it was a decent start. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
Dark-Shini013 said: you do know Jin is writing the script right ? no, I am dumb and I don't know, thanks for telling me! :-) yeah, I know he is and I'm wondering why he changed it so much and actually made it worse (I'm not the only disappointed person, all people I know that are Kagepro fans feel the same about it so it's not like it's just me) |
| Extremely catchy OP. Already liking it a lot. The animation quality was quite the disappointment. Considering that we are talking about Shaft and an extremely popular franchise, I was at least expecting animation quality on par with Monogatari. But aside from a few close-ups, the whole episode was lacking in detail, colours and overall diversity. Also didn't like some of the still frames. They wouldn't have been as bothering me if there actually was something to look at, but even the characters models looked meh in said frames. I've read the manga and could make sense out of what was going on for the most part. The scenes with Ayano definitely piqued my interest, especially as I haven't listened to the songs nor read the novel, thus can only speculate what those were about. Overall, I thought the episode was good and there is still potential for when the plot actually kicks in. Hopefully the animation will also step up a notch in the coming episodes, although I won't get my hopes up for that. |
phoenixalia said: eau-wreck-uh said: phoenixalia said: Welp, that was boring as heck. I came in to this with absolutely no expectations knowing nothing about Kagerou Daze yet I was still disappointed. Almost fell asleep watching this. Reminded me of Shaft's other anime Sasami-san. I'll give it another two episodes but I hope I don't fall asleep in the middle of them. sasami-san is more colorful though...... You do have a point there. But it wasn't the colors which bothered me in this anime... if it's story/plot, well it bothered me too, especially knowing that it's only 11 episode long, risky decision by shaft |
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eau-wreck-uh said: phoenixalia said: eau-wreck-uh said: phoenixalia said: Welp, that was boring as heck. I came in to this with absolutely no expectations knowing nothing about Kagerou Daze yet I was still disappointed. Almost fell asleep watching this. Reminded me of Shaft's other anime Sasami-san. I'll give it another two episodes but I hope I don't fall asleep in the middle of them. sasami-san is more colorful though...... You do have a point there. But it wasn't the colors which bothered me in this anime... if it's story/plot, well it bothered me too, especially knowing that it's only 11 episode long, risky decision by shaft 12 episodes. not 11, MAL says 12. If you are thinking it has 11 because of that thread... that thread translated what SHAFT said wrong, it was SHAFT asking for 11 fan arts to use as an ending card, does not mean there will be 11 episodes, after all, they used two fan arts at the end of the first one. On my second rewatch and I just noticed Kaein Pan the Mast playing at like a minute in. I hope they keep doing this, using the songs from KagePro, off-vocal/instrumental of course as background music. |
ZelotApr 13, 2014 6:13 AM
| I KNEW IT it felt so ummm SHAFT-ish? idk but i had a feeling when i was watching the 1st ep that this is done by shaft and yup it isssss into my list~ |
StardustReverie said: fujobaity shit The only fujoshi character is I don't really see anything that is fujoshi bait though... all of the BL ships are sorta forced as there really isn't chemistry between all the males. Most males already have a main ship with a female. |
| I like the story as of yet. Being a KagePro fan I expected the first episode to not be the highest of excitement, and I know that it will get much better later on! ^^ But I tell you, I am so done with Shaft and its freaking style. Thank you, Shinbo! Can't we just have normal animation for once, please? That isn't too much to ask, is it...? If it were in the style of the PVs then I'd be over the moon. But it isn't, it's like a lower quality Monogatari clone. And the characters could be in the style of the PVs, or at least the manga... Nope, Bakemonogatari again. I don't want artistic backgrounds or intriguing angles. Please just give me regular animation that's done well. Please. I'll continue because I love this series, but I wish Shaft would take a different angle once in a while... :( |
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animeoppai said: StardustReverie said: there isn't nothing in this that's fujioshi baitfujobaity shit Agree. Typical baseless hating. Considering all the close-ups of Ene we got, this felt more directed at male than female viewers, if anything. There are surely enough reasons to complain, but he chose the most unreasonable and stupid one. |
JoekstarApr 13, 2014 7:14 AM
| Haha, Kano is already planning things..very interesting |
| Mastery through endless repetition. |
| I have no idea what the hell I just watched, but I think I loved it. |
| This first episode is the weakest first episode from all spring anime I've watched so far. Is it just me or head-tilting becomes uninteresting since SHAFT (or Shinbou) has exploited this pose too much. I don't find Shintaro's voice fitting and Kana Asumi as Ene makes her character annoying. :| |
| Not as popular compared to the other new series but I loved it :D |
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| The show starts off weirdly but once we're introduced to Ene, it was smooth-sailing from then on for me, I've always loved the way SHAFT produce their anime, it's unique and captivating that have traits that are shared across their portfolio. The whole eye abilities reminds me of Tsukihime. The ending song to the 1st episode, which I'm assuming is the OP is awesome. Now critically, the story still has not be revealed to us yet and I'm assuming we'll get to know more in the next episode but right now, the anime seems to be a comedy mainly with Ene torturing her "master" as well as blackmailing. I read a little bit more about the series here at MAL and I'm pretty interested in how this anime is going to play out. |
| What's this, a Monogatari spin off? the NEET and Ene are like the poor version Koyomi and Shinobu combo. I don't get why they need to force every single series they made with this kind of style. I'm not sure what to think of this anime. Is it suppose to be exciting? intriguing? cos so far it's been really bland. Not even the hostage situation was the least bit interesting, especially seeing how those terrorists just stood there like a bunch of idiots, not paying any attention to their hostages, and didn't even bother to stop a bunch of guys chit-chatting behind their back. It's like duuude, are you guys even serious at this terrorist shit? I thought No Game No Life was bad enough and then this came. |
MoeGodApr 13, 2014 9:23 AM
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| a bit interesting when the masked men and red eyes appear, the first half is quite boring will check out episode 2, wanna know why is this one so hyped |
jiraiya_sensei said: I did not take that literally at all; I took it as an artistic "trick" to focus in on a conversation of importance. I assumed that the terrorists weren't on stage, at that point—if you'll allow a theatre analogy. For instance, it could be that the hostages were actually whispering, or that there was actually a lot of background noise, or that the terrorists weren't physically as close to the hostages as it appeared.Not even the hostage situation was the least bit interesting, especially seeing how those terrorists just stood there like a bunch of idiots, not paying any attention to their hostages, and didn't even bother to stop a bunch of guys chit-chatting behind their back. It's like duuude, are you guys even serious at this terrorist shit? |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
InTheOtherWorld said: I like the story as of yet. Being a KagePro fan I expected the first episode to not be the highest of excitement, and I know that it will get much better later on! ^^ But I tell you, I am so done with Shaft and its freaking style. Thank you, Shinbo! Can't we just have normal animation for once, please? That isn't too much to ask, is it...? If it were in the style of the PVs then I'd be over the moon. But it isn't, it's like a lower quality Monogatari clone. And the characters could be in the style of the PVs, or at least the manga... Nope, Bakemonogatari again. I don't want artistic backgrounds or intriguing angles. Please just give me regular animation that's done well. Please. I'll continue because I love this series, but I wish Shaft would take a different angle once in a while... :( I don't know why people expect anything more out of Shaft/Shinbo at this point. That's his style and that's pretty much the limit he's capable of without a budget and a lot of cases even with one only with more movement. He's not going to try anything new as long as it's still popular and rewarded. Plus if this proves as successful a show as some people are saying I expect it to be emulated all the more. I'd love to see an end to this styles popularity because it's so played out and I'm weary of seeing people arguing how much of a top class artist he is when it's more like a set of visual gimmicks like any director has except instead of being little things they try to include like Mamoru Ooshi and basset hounds or the A113 and Pizza Planet thing that western studio Pixar is known for it's just thrust in your face multiple times so that you can't miss it. It's not exciting or something you can look for occasionally while watching for an extra layer of intrigue, it's just kind of there episode after episode production after production. edit: Meant Western studio Pixar. |
PeacingOutApr 13, 2014 11:48 AM
Kaioshin_Sama said: I don't get why Shaft didn't give kagepro a higher budget though; it's extremely popular in japan, and this is just a disappointment. It's not even that fans don't like his style. If Shinbou were to put in as much effort into Kagepro as Monogatari series or Nisekoi, none of us fans would be upset, really. InTheOtherWorld said: I like the story as of yet. Being a KagePro fan I expected the first episode to not be the highest of excitement, and I know that it will get much better later on! ^^ But I tell you, I am so done with Shaft and its freaking style. Thank you, Shinbo! Can't we just have normal animation for once, please? That isn't too much to ask, is it...? If it were in the style of the PVs then I'd be over the moon. But it isn't, it's like a lower quality Monogatari clone. And the characters could be in the style of the PVs, or at least the manga... Nope, Bakemonogatari again. I don't want artistic backgrounds or intriguing angles. Please just give me regular animation that's done well. Please. I'll continue because I love this series, but I wish Shaft would take a different angle once in a while... :( I don't know why people expect anything more out of Shaft/Shinbo at this point. That's his style and that's pretty much the limit he's capable of without a budget and a lot of cases even with one only with more movement. He's not going to try anything new as long as it's still popular and rewarded. Plus if this proves as successful a show as some people are saying I expect it to be emulated all the more. I'd love to see an end to this styles popularity because it's so played out and I'm weary of seeing people arguing how much of a top class artist he is when it's more like a set of visual gimmicks like any director has except instead of being little things they try to include like Mamoru Ooshi and basset hounds or the A113 and Pizza Planet thing that western studio A113 is known for it's just thrust in your face multiple times so that you can't miss it. It's not exciting or something you can look for occasionally while watching for an extra layer of intrigue, it's just kind of there episode after episode production after production. Have you see the backgrounds, and shading? There's virtually no details on the characters, and the backgrounds look totally reused and simplistic, even moreso than monogatari. |
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| seems like everytime shinbo/shaft does anything other than monogatari series people complain about his style for the first episode or so and then eventually just get used to it after it has time to distinguish itself from shaft's previous works. same thing happened with madoka magica and more recently with nisekoi |
CripborneApr 13, 2014 11:03 AM
| I felt asleep toward the end. |
| I have no damn idea what this is about, but count me in. (Also, through the first half, I thought they were just making fun of me. Silly me, right? Right?) |
| This is exactly like Nisekoi's first episode discussion post. So many clueless people yelling "Monogatari rip-of!!". God... As for me, i haven't read the manga or the LN, but i loved every second of this. All my hype has been rewarded and i can't wait for the second episode. You have done it again, Shaft and Shinbou. God bless you. |
| The only True Ending is the Harem Ending. |
| There goes a half hour of life I'll never get back o_o' That was... awful. Ugh. I can imagine a lot of 14 year old emo kids adoring the art but... ew. It looks like this is some part of a bigger series I guess? Maybe that's where the hype is from... |
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Andan210 said: This is exactly like Nisekoi's first episode discussion post. So many clueless people yelling "Monogatari rip-of!!". God... As for me, i haven't read the manga or the LN, but i loved every second of this. All my hype has been rewarded and i can't wait for the second episode. You have done it again, Shaft and Shinbou. God bless you. If you're into visual gimmickry over an actual overall good production and interesting first episode then yeah I guess Shaft's style works great. |
Aeroing said: There goes a half hour of life I'll never get back o_o' That was... awful. Ugh. I can imagine a lot of 14 year old emo kids adoring the art but... ew. It looks like this is some part of a bigger series I guess? Maybe that's where the hype is from... Considering that it is from SHAFT and this wasn't supposed to be an anime to begin with, I think its pretty well done. It is a series of songs that was/is still is hugely popular on niconico and hence why it is now an anime. |
 I love you forever, さよなら 君が愛してるよ ♪ |
| I liked it, animation felt sort of off though. I think it'll improve as the eps progress. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Andan210 said: This is exactly like Nisekoi's first episode discussion post. So many clueless people yelling "Monogatari rip-of!!". God... As for me, i haven't read the manga or the LN, but i loved every second of this. All my hype has been rewarded and i can't wait for the second episode. You have done it again, Shaft and Shinbou. God bless you. If you're into visual gimmickry over an actual overall good production and interesting first episode then yeah I guess Shaft's style works great. Why must you assume that i didn't find this episode interesting and with good production? Because you didn't? Please, spare me having to discuss with you regarding Shaft/Shinbou. I don't even know what you're doing here to begin with. |
| The only True Ending is the Harem Ending. |
| I am a big fan of the song series as well as Jin, in general. The anime itself is pretty well done I think. I do agree that they could have put more effort into the art of the series but I do think they did not use the original art of the song series. If someone did copy the original art and turned out to be like this, I think its good enough but as everyone says, it is not great. Yes the song was and is still is a hype because the messages of the song that even Jin points out. If people cannot wait to see more of this I would suggest to read the manga or better watch the pvs of the songs or even better is to read the novel. Yes it there are a lot of stills but I do think its because they want to cover one song per episode. One song is about 3 to 4 minutes and the anime has about 26 minutes in total so they have to drag it along (but I do think time went on really quick for a biased fangirl like me.) |
I love you forever, さよなら 君が愛してるよ ♪ |
dustcity said: Xinception said: (Suicidal emo kids with sharingans...). Pls is this really going to be how people see this series? xD Shaft, I'm worried. I am worried for Jin as well. |
I love you forever, さよなら 君が愛してるよ ♪ |
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| I don't know anything about Kagepro so I'm even more confused on things @.@ |
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Slowpoke_ said: I don't know anything about Kagepro so I'm even more confused on things @.@ Don't worry ^^/ It's kind of like shows like Higurashi, where things are explained later on~~ |
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FanShui said: Don't worry ^^/ It's kind of like shows like Higurashi, where things are explained later on~~ Alright :) It seems interesting at least and I like the characters. Animation is sorta meh, but that's okay and Shaft is hit or miss, but that's okay too lol |
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Shojo-chanCat said: Why does Shintaro's room look so futuristic? It looked way more modern in the manga. Anyway, this series looks low-budgeted. Is Shaft even trying? Because there's something off about this compared to the LN and the manga, but I can't put my finger on it... Yeah that really bothered me. His room looks NOTHING like that. wtf ;-; They obviously are not, looking at the majority of the scenery, as well as character detail, they barely put any effort into it... Waited so long for this adaption; it's a pity this is the result.. Slowpoke_ said: FanShui said: Don't worry ^^/ It's kind of like shows like Higurashi, where things are explained later on~~ Alright :) It seems interesting at least and I like the characters. Animation is sorta meh, but that's okay and Shaft is hit or miss, but that's okay too lol If you're interested, give the manga a try; it's much better. I kind of wish the producers of Durarara!! animated it instead, since the themes are similar, and I'd prefer anything over shaft atm, tbh OTL |
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Shojo-chanCat said: Why does Shintaro's room look so futuristic? It looked way more modern in the manga... there's something off about this compared to the LN and the manga, but I can't put my finger on it... Welcome to the garden of Akiyuki Shinbo Shojo-chanCat said: Anyway, this series looks low-budgeted. Is Shaft even trying? FanShui said: I don't get why Shaft didn't give kagepro a higher budget though; it's extremely popular in japan You know what's even more popular in Japan? hint: it's an animated series by shaft that's airing at the same time as this. It's rather unfortunate really that the production of this overlaps with the money printing machine known as Nisekoi. At this point, I honestly prefer the animation from the music videos. |
fst said: You know what's even more popular in Japan? hint: it's an animated series by shaft that's airing at the same time as this. It's rather unfortunate really that the production of this overlaps with the money printing machine known as Nisekoi. At this point, I honestly prefer the animation from the music videos. Nisekoi is popular, but last I checked, kagepro was more popular :( And yeah, I agree. Atm, the animation from the mvs are superior ;A; |
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