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May 18, 2013 8:27 AM
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symbv said:
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Well i have to agree she has been a source of motivation but what about responsibilities? She is the one who proposed the plan but the way she acted on the previous episode really destroyed my likeliness/hopes for her. Yes she is good as a cheerleader but that won't always help.
It is all fine to dislike Shouko but that does not mean that she is "holding back the characters". My issue has to do with the "holding back" statement, not whether she is likeable (though I still like her). Haruto may be being held back from thinking on his own because of Shouko, but he is clearly developing on quite a few aspects too, so his development in general is not being "held back" but just that he might be expected to develop more independence if he does not involve Shouko in his thinking so much, but then I think it is a given that to Haruto Shouko MEANS A LOT and he clearly has very high opinion of what she thinks too, so I guess that is part of his core personality and can't be helped.


I am not saying Haruto is not developing and tbh i like his character from the start despite his flaws. But his character won't develop properly if he always relies/depends on Shouko. My fear is that he will become like Amata and i really hope that doesn't come true. The guy has potential to be a good character despite what people think. Caring/depending on Shouko is part of his core personality but too much dependence can also be very bad for him. Well like i said before it's what i think.

Btw any news on the Japanese forums about the side effect of being a vampire or Valvrave 2? I am really curious about these things.

May 18, 2013 8:35 AM

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Hmm... I guess to me there is not really a "proper development". If he veers off course because Shouko is so big in his mind and that is depicted convincingly, I would still call his character a "good character".

I have yet to see anything more than pure speculations about Valvrave #2 or any side effect of being a "Magius" (this is the official word for the state of "vampire" after you got bitten by the system inside Valvrave).
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
May 18, 2013 8:38 AM
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symbv said:
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This episode got thumbs-up by many viewers, including those who pooh-poohed the last 2 episodes !!! In particular, the vast majority of viewers gave high score for the Saki character,

That's a relief. I hope Sunrise sees this as a sign of where to take the show. This episode was definitely MUCH better than the last episode, at least. (Plus, they kept the fan-service to a minimum. Good.) =_= Last episode reminded me of the ridiculous otaku fan service singing moe designed cartoons until the last few minutes, where it finally got serious. I played last episode entirely in mute without realizing they were going to sing. Well, I'm glad I did so. I can understand the power of being motivational, but I don't think I can deal with that kind of singing.

I don't like Saki's selfishness, which is the show's intention, but I enjoyed her backstory scenes because it really showed how she became like that. Glad she isn't a brooding anti-social perfect character. (Not to mention, I really dislike Japan's idol industry.) I can see why she was the perfect candidate for the green mecha.

Poor Haruto. :< It's a good thing Shoko isn't the jealous type. I can't stand love triangles. They drag a show/manga down in the story department (because they're so predictable and annoying).

Now, the main juicy part is coming up. I hope we see more of L-11~!! Will he reveal his true colors to his former friend? Just what exactly is he planning in his little revolution? I can't wait to see more of HIS character development and backstory. *drools*
May 18, 2013 8:43 AM

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^ Hmm... I guess you may want to prepare for things you dislike or can't stand because I have a feeling that the idol part and triangle will make appearance later in the show. Fine for me because I LOVE Japanese idols and I expected triangles even before I started watching this show.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
May 18, 2013 8:48 AM

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From the moment OP played I was looking forward to love triangle.
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May 18, 2013 8:51 AM
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symbv said:
^ Hmm... I guess you may want to prepare for things you dislike or can't stand because I have a feeling that the idol part and triangle will make appearance later in the show. Fine for me because I LOVE Japanese idols and I expected triangles even before I started watching this show.

For a Sunrise show, I expect to see barely any love triangles. However, this isn't a Gundam and it has a high school setting with a lot of crazy silly students. If there is a love triangle, it better be short and sweet. =_= Love triangles really do drag a story (of any genre) down the tube. It's so tiresome to see people argue over other people's feelings.

Fine if you enjoy these things, but for me, yeah... Just no.

(And sorry, the Japanese idol system really makes me cringe.)

Even if I dislike these things, I'll still keep watching Valvrave. :P No show is ever perfect to me (except for Fantastic Fantaastic Children. Heh).
May 18, 2013 9:04 AM

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Did anyone else see that character spread where Saki had a triangle with shots of the green valvrave beside her, L-Elf with an orange/yellow one, and A-Drei with a blue one? Urghghgh idk

I am absolutely in love with Saki right now. She is the literal embodiment of the insanity that is Valvrave, and compensates nicely for the death of Senator Moses. That fight sequence with Carmilla at the end was also very nice to look at. Considering how she names her Valvrave after a lesbian vampire, I'm beginning to think the harem will actually be Saki > Shoko < Haruto instead of the Saki > Haruto < Shoko one that I initially expected.

Since A-Drei is a Dorssian prince, I would imagine that he's connected to Liselotte somehow. I really don't care, I just want FukuJun to get some more opportunities to ham it up.

Eagerly anticipating next episode.
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May 18, 2013 9:25 AM

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Pretty good episode. Really liked the ost that played in the end. It really went well with the scene.
May 18, 2013 9:34 AM
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NeoAnkara said:
From the moment OP played I was looking forward to love triangle.


Lets hope it doesn't turn into a Love Quadrangle after the stunt Saki pulled in Haruto's body..........but eagerly looking forward to how the Love Triangle will play out.

symbv said:
Hmm... I guess to me there is not really a "proper development". If he veers off course because Shouko is so big in his mind and that is depicted convincingly, I would still call his character a "good character".

I have yet to see anything more than pure speculations about Valvrave #2 or any side effect of being a "Magius" (this is the official word for the state of "vampire" after you got bitten by the system inside Valvrave).


Yeah i have to agree with that. I don't have a problem if it's depicted well enough. Let's just hope they play it out well.

May 18, 2013 9:41 AM
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Tyrel said:
Comedy Gold.

We need the comedy tag for this show.


I don't get it. What's so funny about it anyway even though it's a 'serious' show?

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This.


What's all THIS about, obviously? Since when that post become a trend on MAL? Does THIS mean he had a same thing as well? - OFF TOPIC
May 18, 2013 10:18 AM
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Man, I hope L-elf joins their side and I hope Shouko gets her own Valvraeve.
May 18, 2013 11:27 AM

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Seriously Shokohaters are going full retard.
May 18, 2013 12:18 PM
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Pseumincti said:
Did anyone else see that character spread where Saki had a triangle with shots of the green valvrave beside her, L-Elf with an orange/yellow one, and A-Drei with a blue one? Urghghgh idk

Quoting from the "guess which one" thread.
bastek66 said:
Funny thing, some scans contradict all pilots we were predicting.

With this it looks like
Audrey gets Blue
Lelf - Yellow (or Orange)
and Aina - Purple


So, the green triangle is solved. If baste is right, then, L-11 will definitely get his own...?

Yellow, blue, purple.... Can't picture Aina in a purple, but anything can happen. I'd like to see the delinquent guy get his own. It would be cool to see his reaction. >D
May 18, 2013 12:35 PM

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Bokuranokiseki said:
Pseumincti said:
Did anyone else see that character spread where Saki had a triangle with shots of the green valvrave beside her, L-Elf with an orange/yellow one, and A-Drei with a blue one? Urghghgh idk

Quoting from the "guess which one" thread.
bastek66 said:
Funny thing, some scans contradict all pilots we were predicting.

With this it looks like
Audrey gets Blue
Lelf - Yellow (or Orange)
and Aina - Purple


So, the green triangle is solved. If baste is right, then, L-11 will definitely get his own...?

Yellow, blue, purple.... Can't picture Aina in a purple, but anything can happen. I'd like to see the delinquent guy get his own. It would be cool to see his reaction. >D

Seriously ?
Yellow.. so this one:


Tsk.. I find that this yellow's one isn't so beautiful ...
I want that L-elf have the mysterious Valvrave II x)

(sorry for my bad english)
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May 18, 2013 1:32 PM

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JeffreyZin said:
Tyrel said:
Comedy Gold.

We need the comedy tag for this show.


I don't get it. What's so funny about it anyway even though it's a 'serious' show?

Dashiawia said:
This.


What's all THIS about, obviously? Since when that post become a trend on MAL? Does THIS mean he had a same thing as well? - OFF TOPIC

I think the fact this is supposed to be a series show is the funniest thing about this anime. And if you don't see it... can't help you then, I guess?
This means this. What's so uncomprehendable about that?

Anyway... this anime. Lulz. That guy voiced by Jun Fukuyama had a nice line at the end. 'Eru erufu! For the sake of our frendship... die.' I must use this one oneday.
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May 18, 2013 2:42 PM

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Ok, fuck this shit.
May 18, 2013 2:46 PM

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Pseumincti said:
I am absolutely in love with Saki right now. She is the literal embodiment of the insanity that is Valvrave, and compensates nicely for the death of Senator Moses. That fight sequence with Carmilla at the end was also very nice to look at. Considering how she names her Valvrave after a lesbian vampire, I'm beginning to think the harem will actually be Saki > Shoko < Haruto instead of the Saki > Haruto < Shoko one that I initially expected.

I'm really hoping that's the case bec. the Saki > Haruto < Shoko setup is just really...bland. With Haruto at the center it feels like the triangle will go nowhere until the final few episodes, especially since he's made up his mind not to do anything at this point. At least if they're both going for Shoko, Haruto will be forced to step up his game-the times his character really shone for me was when he let go of his reluctance to compete and just went all out for victory like in ep1.
As for the other half of the triangle, Saki x Shoko has more chemistry than Saki x Haruto imo. I can see Saki messing with Haruto just to get Shoko's attention lol.
May 18, 2013 3:20 PM

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Bokuranokiseki said:
Pseumincti said:
Did anyone else see that character spread where Saki had a triangle with shots of the green valvrave beside her, L-Elf with an orange/yellow one, and A-Drei with a blue one? Urghghgh idk

Quoting from the "guess which one" thread.
bastek66 said:
Funny thing, some scans contradict all pilots we were predicting.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/KadAuKCl.jpg[img]
With this it looks like
Audrey gets Blue
Lelf - Yellow (or Orange)
and Aina - Purple


So, the green triangle is solved. If baste is right, then, L-11 will definitely get his own...?

Yellow, blue, purple.... Can't picture Aina in a purple, but anything can happen. I'd like to see the delinquent guy get his own. It would be cool to see his reaction. >D


I too want to see him pilot a Valvrave
There not enough the stereotypical Yankee mecha pilots
May 18, 2013 5:12 PM

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Best episode yet, in my opinion. saki is pretty cool despite being manipulative,and I'm loving that Love's triangle With her,haruto and shoko.By the opening I can tell it's gonna have more 3 valvraves and a big one. I supose L-elf will control it.I'm certain shoko will be one of the pilots.
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May 18, 2013 8:26 PM

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vilmarbf said:
Best episode yet, in my opinion. saki is pretty cool despite being manipulative,and I'm loving that Love's triangle With her,haruto and shoko.By the opening I can tell it's gonna have more 3 valvraves and a big one. I supose L-elf will control it.I'm certain shoko will be one of the pilots.


I doubt Shoko will be one of the pilots.

Everyone pictured on this image will be the next pilot's I bet.


At the end of the episode it showed A-Drei which he will sneak in and get control of the blue one, L-Elf will get the yellow/or gold and Aina Sakurai will be the last to get the purple one. So basically I think these characters will be the final pilots.

It will most probably go in this order, I hope they enjoy their immortality while their other friends die of old age. Though I bet by the end of the series they will somehow turn human again.
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May 18, 2013 9:17 PM

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She totally thinks this fun -____-
May 18, 2013 10:40 PM

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I didn't mind this Saki girl at first, she seemed ok....but she pissed me off in this episode x.x hurt to watch
Agreed.
For some reason she was kind of annoying, this episode was meh, then again that's just my opinion.
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May 18, 2013 10:42 PM

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I used to be so excited over this show, but...but I dunno. I just can't seem to enjoy it like I used to. Hopefully the show becomes more interesting soon... u_u
May 18, 2013 11:49 PM
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This is easily the dumbest show from sunrise. Whoever greenlit this needs to be fired, demoted or punished in some way.
May 19, 2013 6:08 AM
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The hell. Saki, she pisses me off. Really.
May 19, 2013 11:10 AM
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well them the only lefth female character in this show is the princess of the dorssian army for the op to like haruto since every female is so bad in popularity or maybe in the second season in october we will see another new female character that will give this show a little hope what everyone thinks wait for second season?
May 19, 2013 11:15 AM

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ok episode
May 19, 2013 2:35 PM

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Rukino's green Valvrave is pretty cool. It literally dances through space with those 'legs'.So she really wants to stand out and become famous, huh? A little bit too badly if you ask me. It looks like her parents really abused her when she was little, though.

So we've got an infiltrator now eh? He'll be going after L-Elf.

I wonder when we'll see the rest of the Valvraves like the blue, yellow and purple ones.

May 19, 2013 9:01 PM
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damn that mecha is ugly. but has twitter incorporated into the system. fucking win
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May 19, 2013 10:46 PM

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I'm starting to get tired of these students.. This show needs action more often.
L-Elf should be the actual MC, not Haruto. OR should have the spotlight WAY more.
I want a confrontation between L-Elf and A-Drei.
May 20, 2013 1:58 AM

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I've just gone and watched Start Trek Into Darkness...

(don't open unless you've watched it or don't mind being spoiled)
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
May 20, 2013 2:06 AM

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This show is such a disappointment. It's very cliche and to me it's like a High School Musical mecha version. : However, the mecha action scenes are really entertaining. Rukino becomes a 'vampire' too and is able to control the Valvrave so easily. Lolwut. Don't really care about the main story to be honest...
May 20, 2013 2:20 AM

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^ At least the abundant use of plot twists can't be called "cliche" LOL
And neither is the concept of the "vampire" pilots.. BTW it may feel like Highschool Musical if it is the previous episode you are talking... I wonder how this episode feels like that....
symbvMay 20, 2013 2:35 AM
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
May 20, 2013 3:12 AM

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I think their plot is a little similar to Last Exile2. I assume that Dorssia is operating under the name of the little girl with twin tail purple hair in the OP/ED while the one who holds true power is Cain. And L-elf is working under her to make an evolution to take power back from Cain.


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May 20, 2013 6:00 AM

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I can't help cringing while watching this. How I wish they'd just tag it "comedy" and get it over with.
May 20, 2013 7:31 AM
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Oriolidae said:
I can't help cringing while watching this. How I wish they'd just tag it "comedy" and get it over with.


Not till you and the rest of the people with "Diminished Undeveloped Minds Battling For Unnecessary Causes Killing Sanity" syndrome spamming for that fucking comedy tag go spam for Code Geass to get a comedy tag first
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May 20, 2013 10:18 AM
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It was good. It reminds me of Guilty Crown, when they started to fight for their freedom/independence.

I will continue this, it entertains me,
May 20, 2013 11:15 PM

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Bokuranokiseki said:
Pseumincti said:
Did anyone else see that character spread where Saki had a triangle with shots of the green valvrave beside her, L-Elf with an orange/yellow one, and A-Drei with a blue one? Urghghgh idk

Quoting from the "guess which one" thread.
bastek66 said:
Funny thing, some scans contradict all pilots we were predicting.

With this it looks like
Audrey gets Blue
Lelf - Yellow (or Orange)
and Aina - Purple


So, the green triangle is solved. If baste is right, then, L-11 will definitely get his own...?

Yellow, blue, purple.... Can't picture Aina in a purple, but anything can happen. I'd like to see the delinquent guy get his own. It would be cool to see his reaction. >D


Looks likes that green valvrave has multiple legs on it lol. I didn't know that there are hints in the scans.
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May 21, 2013 12:58 AM

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Whole lot of whining and making shit up to complain about goin' on in this thread.
May 21, 2013 7:26 AM

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Haruto notwithstanding, if Saki could pilot a Valvrave this well, then I can't wait to see how awesome it would be when L-Elf gets his own.
May 21, 2013 6:13 PM

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Yukino is getting on my freaking nerves >,> Overall it was a good episode since now they have 2nd Valvrave we'll probably see the rest in the next two episodes. From the episodes that have come out i feel like this series doesn't deserve all the hate it's been getting. Sure it's not perfect but it's certainly not a horrible anime as many make it out to be.
May 22, 2013 8:39 AM

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Yukino is getting on my freaking nerves >,> Overall it was a good episode since now they have 2nd Valvrave we'll probably see the rest in the next two episodes. From the episodes that have come out i feel like this series doesn't deserve all the hate it's been getting. Sure it's not perfect but it's certainly not a horrible anime as many make it out to be.


Who the hell is Yukino?
May 22, 2013 9:17 AM

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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Who the hell is Yukino?


think he meant Rukino

Yukino
Rukino

a mistake i guess
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Now I dislike Saki, but obviously the best girl thread says otherwise.

ROFL


Anyway, I don't like this series as much anymore, but hopefully it will get better later or in the second season.

May 22, 2013 8:53 PM
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Yeah obviously Rukino killed herself as a potential character in the show in this episode,no words to explain it on how she made me laugh like hell!!

Not slapping myself for watching this show since it has good OST, and the mecha's logo are addicting to look at
May 22, 2013 9:48 PM

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Why does what Saki did in this episode automatically make her a bad irredeemable character and kill the entire season cold and dead? People are really not doing a very good job of explaining and justifying what they seem to want others to believe is a dire situation for the character and the show considering it's the first major focus episode we've had on her and there's sure to be more.
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saki is completely mad
the teacher is just being useless, although she has big tits...shes still useless with big tits
vvv-tan is confirmed to be the best girl, although all she said was one sentence...
May 25, 2013 1:51 AM

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I don't know whether I like or hate Saki yet. But at least that Senator got what was coming to him.
May 25, 2013 10:37 AM

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Brigandi said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:
Who the hell is Yukino?


think he meant Rukino

Yukino
Rukino

a mistake i guess

Could've sworn i wrote Rukino xD At least it was a simple mistake :P

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This is THE episode that made me stick with this trainwreck.

Watching for Saki's fabulous awesomeness is good enough. Seriously why is Saki NOT the main lead? Show would be thousand times better if she was.

now if only mary sue shouko got a gruesome death, it would be even better
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