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Sep 16, 2021 10:56 PM

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Hahah, Clayman defeated by Shion XD He is so weak huh. I really hope that Milim at least hits or kicks Clayman once.... because Clayman didn't realize that he is nothing when compared to Milim.

The fights were cool especially Veldora x Milim hahah, but one thing I'm not satisfied with is because Rimuru and his subordinates are very strong, so it looks like Clayman is only presented to be defeated without being able to fight/injure his opponent.. I want to see Rimuru or anyone of Rimuru's direct subordinates is slightly, slightly… injured. But other than that everything was good and it's nice to see Milim laughing again!

Sep 17, 2021 9:26 PM
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ended on a major cliffhanger the

iwas shocked how veldora pulled out the kamahame ha withe much effort. als los like milim is back to her usual form
liked the series so far
Sep 18, 2021 6:46 AM

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@Blue_Maroon

1. Why is Clayman even considered a Demon Lord if he has never awakened as one? Do all the other Demon Lords just have to accept him as one? Because it seemed like none of the other Demon Lords respected him or thought he was powerful at all.


there are 2 reasons for that

1. clayman is considered as a demon lord cuz he is a demon lord

a chicken egg is still considered as a chicken, isnt it? it hasnt hatched yet...but its still undoubtedly a chicken, isnt? lol I know its a silly example but clayman has a similar situation to the chicken egg situation...

he has a demon lord "egg" inside him, but it hasnt hatched yet. thus he's not a true chicken ye- I mean he's not a true demon lord yet

2. clayman is considered as a demon lord cuz he's part of the demon lord club, so he's a demon lord

for instance ramiris, she doesnt even have a demon lord "egg" inside her but she's still considered as a demon lord cuz she's part of the demon lord club

2: So the only way that a Demon Lord can be punished for breaking the non-aggression pact is if Walpurgis is called? If that’s the case, then Milim could’ve killed him whenever she wanted. When most of the Demon Lords thought Carrion was killed by Milim nothing happened. Are you really telling me 3 Demon Lords would have felt the need to call the meeting if Clayman was killed? And if violators can be punished without the meeting being called, then Clayman should’ve been punished for forcing Frey to do his bidding and attacking Rimuru without this whole charade.


clayman didnt break the non-aggression pact with frey, he never did...he just used charybdis to "force" her to do his bidding

at that time charybdis was about to awaken, tear (clayman's sister, you know the girl with the teary clown mask) reported to clayman,

"frey and the harpy clan look anxious recently. apparently its cuz charybdis is about to revive, that thing is their natural enemy after all"

he replied,

"hmmm, that sounds interesting. wait, I have a great idea that might kill three birds with one stone"

he came to frey and proposed,

"I could help you taking care of charybdis but sadly... I never do things for free"

frey agreed...and then clayman asked his brother footman (the fat dude with the angery clown mask) and tear to manipulate charybdis. as we have already seen back in season 1, they planned and decided to use phobio (a living person with an ego/ a sense of self) as charybid's core so when its fully awakened, it wouldnt turn into a completely mindless beast and attack the harpy clan as usual

3: Frey and Milim could’ve called Walpurgis by getting some evidence of his violations and using Rimuru’s connection with Carrion or Ramiris to call the meeting. Milim is his ally so I see no reason why he would refuse.


nope they couldnt. it needs at least 3 votes from the active members to hold the walpurgis meeting

...milim and frey are like...2 individuals, arent they? lol more importantly, clayman didnt break the non-aggression pact with frey, he never did...in fact, he "helped" her dealing with charybdis that threatened the harpy clan

in other words even iF milim and frey got 1 more vote from another member to hold walpurgis meeting, they had no legit reason to kick clayman out of the demon lord...yet
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Sep 18, 2021 8:21 AM

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Lab_Rat_0978 said:
@Blue_Maroon

1. Why is Clayman even considered a Demon Lord if he has never awakened as one? Do all the other Demon Lords just have to accept him as one? Because it seemed like none of the other Demon Lords respected him or thought he was powerful at all.


there are 2 reasons for that

1. clayman is considered as a demon lord cuz he is a demon lord

a chicken egg is still considered as a chicken, isnt it? it hasnt hatched yet...but its still undoubtedly a chicken, isnt? lol I know its a silly example but clayman has a similar situation to the chicken egg situation...

he has a demon lord "egg" inside him, but it hasnt hatched yet. thus he's not a true chicken ye- I mean he's not a true demon lord yet

2. clayman is considered as a demon lord cuz he's part of the demon lord club, so he's a demon lord

for instance ramiris, she doesnt even have a demon lord "egg" inside her but she's still considered as a demon lord cuz she's part of the demon lord club

2: So the only way that a Demon Lord can be punished for breaking the non-aggression pact is if Walpurgis is called? If that’s the case, then Milim could’ve killed him whenever she wanted. When most of the Demon Lords thought Carrion was killed by Milim nothing happened. Are you really telling me 3 Demon Lords would have felt the need to call the meeting if Clayman was killed? And if violators can be punished without the meeting being called, then Clayman should’ve been punished for forcing Frey to do his bidding and attacking Rimuru without this whole charade.


clayman didnt break the non-aggression pact with frey, he never did...he just used charybdis to "force" her to do his bidding

at that time charybdis was about to awaken, tear (clayman's sister, you know the girl with the teary clown mask) reported to clayman,

"frey and the harpy clan look anxious recently. apparently its cuz charybdis is about to revive, that thing is their natural enemy after all"

he replied,

"hmmm, that sounds interesting. wait, I have a great idea that might kill three birds with one stone"

he came to frey and proposed,

"I could help you taking care of charybdis but sadly... I never do things for free"

frey agreed...and then clayman asked his brother footman (the fat dude with the angery clown mask) and tear to manipulate charybdis. as we have already seen back in season 1, they planned and decided to use phobio (a living person with an ego/ a sense of self) as charybid's core so when its fully awakened, it wouldnt turn into a completely mindless beast and attack the harpy clan as usual

3: Frey and Milim could’ve called Walpurgis by getting some evidence of his violations and using Rimuru’s connection with Carrion or Ramiris to call the meeting. Milim is his ally so I see no reason why he would refuse.


nope they couldnt. it needs at least 3 votes from the active members to hold the walpurgis meeting

...milim and frey are like...2 individuals, arent they? lol more importantly, clayman didnt break the non-aggression pact with frey, he never did...in fact, he "helped" her dealing with charybdis that threatened the harpy clan

in other words even iF milim and frey got 1 more vote from another member to hold walpurgis meeting, they had no legit reason to kick clayman out of the demon lord...yet

Did you not read my 3rd point saying that Milim and Frey could have used Rimuru's connections with Ramiris or Carrion to call the meeting? That, along with them getting proof was the whole point of that comment.

Nevertheless, I don't see why they couldn't kill Clayman without this whole Charade because nothing happened when most of the demon lords thought Milim killed Carrion. I think they all would let it slide if she actually killed Clayman since nobody liked him and she is one of the most powerful demon lords.
Sep 18, 2021 11:01 AM

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4) Yea subtlety, but there was nothing like that. Holding a glass of wine once in a while does not say it is alcoholism. A lot of people just drink in some reasonable amount. And to subtly show alcoholism would something like, looking at a glass and than at a family foto and than looking sad, but there was nothing like that.


its not just once in a while. the man spent all his precious screentime with nothing but drinking

About the screenwriter... his gold might have just been to make him look cool. Also, the guy only drinks wine which is a really weak drink; to portray alcoholism would require a lot more than having him having glass of wine in most scenes. Alcoholics you can call alcoholics would drink more, stronger beverages and it would dominate their life. THE POINT IS THAT HIS CASE IS NOT THAT OF A PROBLEMATIC DRUNKART. I do not use this card often nor am I happy too; but I know because my occupation is a psychologist (just so you do not dismiss me outright by saying I no nothing about it).


you might actually be right...however we've seen other characters including rimuru drinking, even suphia and alvis emptied a bunch of huge barrels full of wine in one go...and theyre doing just fine, there's no sign of em being suffered from alcoholism

why?

cuz theyre drinking together with brothers, sisters and friends

meanwhile clayman, he's been toasting to himself...24/7 since season 1 lol

did you also miss that lil detail?

The supposed alcoholism has no impact on the character arc in any meaningful way anyway... so...


in clayman's case? yesh its beautifully done. there's also another lil detail...after dozens of scenes showcasing him drinking and toasting to himself,
he's finally shown a crack in his poker face...thats when his brother laplace warned him about milim's situation

another thing about clayman is, Ive never seen him being mentioned as a "strong" demon lord from the first place. iirc back in season 1, right after charybdis got defeated milim told rimuru that clayman is especially a cunning guy...she didnt mention his power level in the slightest. not only regarding clayman, nobody has ever mentioned ​how strong demon lords truly are except milim
Sep 18, 2021 11:46 AM

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@Blue_Maroon

Did you not read my 3rd point saying that Milim and Frey could have used Rimuru's connections with Ramiris or Carrion to call the meeting? That, along with them getting proof was the whole point of that comment.

Nevertheless, I don't see why they couldn't kill Clayman without this whole Charade because nothing happened when most of the demon lords thought Milim killed Carrion. I think they all would let it slide if she actually killed Clayman since nobody liked him and she is one of the most powerful demon lords.


I dont understand your logic

Ive already explained above

at that time clayman didnt break the non-aggression pact with frey, he never did...he even "helped" her and the harpy clan taking care of their natural enemy (charybdis) thats about to revive after being sealed by the hero for centuries...

or
are you implying...clayman letting charybdis revived and destroyed frey and her family as it usually did in the past would also mean "breaking the non-aggression pact" with her?
just to be clear,
its not even his responsibility to begin with, why would let others minding their own business equals breaking the non-aggression pact...theyre completely two different things

thats the reason why even iF milim and frey had 1 more vote from ramiris to hold the walpurgis meeting, they wouldnt have had any compelling argument to kick clayman out of the club

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Sep 18, 2021 12:04 PM

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@BromWalar

4) Yea subtlety, but there was nothing like that. Holding a glass of wine once in a while does not say it is alcoholism. A lot of people just drink in some reasonable amount. And to subtly show alcoholism would something like, looking at a glass and than at a family foto and than looking sad, but there was nothing like that.


its not just once in a while. the man spent all his precious screentime with nothing but drinking


About the screenwriter... his gold might have just been to make him look cool. Also, the guy only drinks wine which is a really weak drink; to portray alcoholism would require a lot more than having him having glass of wine in most scenes. Alcoholics you can call alcoholics would drink more, stronger beverages and it would dominate their life. THE POINT IS THAT HIS CASE IS NOT THAT OF A PROBLEMATIC DRUNKART. I do not use this card often nor am I happy too; but I know because my occupation is a psychologist (just so you do not dismiss me outright by saying I no nothing about it).


you might actually be right...however we've seen other characters including rimuru drinking, even suphia and alvis emptied a bunch of huge barrels full of wine in one go...and theyre doing just fine, there's no sign of em being suffered from alcoholism

why?

cuz theyre drinking together with brothers, sisters and friends

meanwhile clayman, he's been toasting to himself...24/7 since season 1 lol

did you also miss that lil detail?

The supposed alcoholism has no impact on the character arc in any meaningful way anyway... so...


in clayman's case? yesh its beautifully done. there's also another lil detail...after dozens of scenes showcasing him drinking and toasting to himself,
he's finally shown a crack in his poker face...thats when his brother laplace warned him about milim's situation

another thing about clayman is, Ive never seen him being mentioned as a "strong" demon lord from the first place. iirc back in season 1, right after charybdis got defeated milim told rimuru that clayman is especially a cunning guy...she didnt mention his power level in the slightest. not only regarding clayman, nobody has ever mentioned ​how strong demon lords truly are except milim


It seems I will need to repeat a few things as well as address your points...

1) Screentime, yes. He had a glass of wine. For one he did not have that many scenes. There are also scenes when he does not drink (like the one when he kicks Milim or during the gathering of demon lords). In one scene when he is distress, instead of a scene of him drinking heavily and desperately he shatters the glass and wastes the precious wine... this just does not sound like an alcoholic. as I have pointed out already THE WINE IS THERE FOR ONLY THERE REASONS: A) Style B) general visuals - contrasts with his white tunic C) To show him act superior; like some person from a better social strata.

2) Yea, they drink together. Some of them might have bigger problems than him. If you want to portray an alcoholic would it not be need to portray him seriously drunk at least once? Clayman is for the camera only.

3) Yea Laplace warned him, but the "crack" was due to that info and not drinking.

4) Yet he was a demon lord and taken as such, for the audience it means that he is strong. If you wanted to make him compelling in spite of him being relatively weak the author (whichever ones idea it was) should have make his cunning his strength from the beginning and make his ability to utilize or nerf other characters his strength.
- DEMON LORDS - sorry but the title would not be feared if they were not strong, also the requirements are damn steep and would level you up like they did for Rimuru. This last argument of yours is really weak. Sorry.
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Sep 18, 2021 3:43 PM

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Did you not read my 3rd point saying that Milim and Frey could have used Rimuru's connections with Ramiris or Carrion to call the meeting? That, along with them getting proof was the whole point of that comment.

Nevertheless, I don't see why they couldn't kill Clayman without this whole Charade because nothing happened when most of the demon lords thought Milim killed Carrion. I think they all would let it slide if she actually killed Clayman since nobody liked him and she is one of the most powerful demon lords.


I dont understand your logic

Ive already explained above

at that time clayman didnt break the non-aggression pact with frey, he never did...he even "helped" her and the harpy clan taking care of their natural enemy (charybdis) thats about to revive after being sealed by the hero for centuries...

or
are you implying...clayman letting charybdis revived and destroyed frey and her family as it usually did in the past would also mean "breaking the non-aggression pact" with her?
just to be clear,
its not even his responsibility to begin with, why would let others minding their own business equals breaking the non-aggression pact...theyre completely two different things

thats the reason why even iF milim and frey had 1 more vote from ramiris to hold the walpurgis meeting, they wouldnt have had any compelling argument to kick clayman out of the club


Is he not the one reviving Charybdis?
Sep 18, 2021 4:52 PM

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no it wasnt clayman

he found out charybdis was about to revive and frey was anxious cuz of it from his sister tear, the girl with teary clown mask. iirc (it could be in the manga, I'm not sure the anime animated that scene...been too long since I watched season 1) he visibly shook about dat news but...recovered fast cuz he saw an oppprtunity behind frey's misery

the disappearance of veldora, the starving orc, charybdis thats about to revive, falmuth invasion, yuurazania refugees

clayman is capable of seeing opportunities behind others misery or circumstances
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@BromWalar

you shouldve paid attention to what clayman said, before he punched milim in the face

"...what does it feel to get bamboozled by somone who's always been mocked as a small fry huhhh?!" he then proceeded to beat the shit out of her

also, based on myulan's confession thats she's been under demon lord clayman's control since 300+ years ago.... I deduce that milim and myb other demon lords have always treated him as a NOOb demon lord for centuries too...

clayman has arguably been living under pressure...surrounded by many ppl that are "superior" than him for a very long time, lol even his own bros and sis said thats he's a weakling...they clearly meant no harm but still...its explained the reason why he's so obsessed with power

regarding your last point,

the generalized idea about demon lords "must" be strong cuz theyre called demon lords...had lost its meaning when demon lord ramiris got introduced at the end of season 1? she's like a lot weaker than even pre-true demon lord rimuru

idk about you but I think that revelation gave us a glimpse of the real power level within the demon lord club.......it opened the possibility of another demon lord or more (including clayman) being as weak as or weaker than demon lord ramiris
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That kamehameha was better than in all of DBS. xD
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I actually really liked it , I foudn it funny with the dragon ball and Street fighter references in there , bro I was so glad Milim was back to her old self and SHION MY WAIFUUU handed Clayman his booty as she should lollll
Sep 19, 2021 8:13 AM

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Literally the whole spisode

Sep 19, 2021 8:37 AM

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This was such a dissatisfying episode. So far all the fiights in this series are either Rimuru overpowering the opponents or losing a 1-on-1, I would much rather prefer to see the later happening than this bs of a "fight".

I am hoping in the next season if not the next episode they explore more into Clayman's character. It would be shame to let him die like that.
Sep 19, 2021 8:46 AM
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Dang, that's a big cliffhanger tho
Sep 19, 2021 2:57 PM
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At the end there I was kinda feeling sorry for Clayman and thought he could have a redemption, but not so much anymore
Sep 19, 2021 8:58 PM
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Byniavo said:
I don't like how Milim was never controlled in the first place; I think there should have been some hints about this. But Veldora xD I can't take him seriously I can't stop laughing
dude there were so many hints to milim not being controlled like Raphael not detecting her being controlled or guy earlier stating that milim was too strong to get controlled. you're just not paying attention.
Sep 19, 2021 9:02 PM

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HAHAHA so the 3 followers of Clarion and thousands of their peasants almost got exterminated for a PRANK.


Rimuru should be as angry as Clayman.


Well, and this IS NOT a plot whole. In fact that is the way how these demons and dragons always played with the lives of innocent and weak population.

Remember how nonchalantly Vendora said he eliminated a city from that vampire lord. Thousand of innocent died. Just another day in this world.


Right now Rimuru has not the power nor the control, but he should plan to change this world for his dream of people having right for a peaceful life.

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Btw, bugs me how Rimuru dont have a clue about the power of the Black Butler. The simp is the same kind of primal devil as the "Red one" who is the oldest demon lord.

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Btw2, would be irritating if that japanese who played with Clayman later say that all the evolve of Rimuru that is happening along his "failed" plans (come on, Clayman was in the hand of Frey, Milin and even Clarion the intire time) was on purpose. Why? If Clayman was destined to be defeated, who was going to gain anything if not the Slime?
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Millim's pretending was fucking stupid
Sep 20, 2021 12:10 PM

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Byniavo said:
I don't like how Milim was never controlled in the first place; I think there should have been some hints about this. But Veldora xD I can't take him seriously I can't stop laughing
dude there were so many hints to milim not being controlled like Raphael not detecting her being controlled or guy earlier stating that milim was too strong to get controlled. you're just not paying attention.


bruh those are not hints. Maybe you should start paying attention to what you write
Sep 20, 2021 2:08 PM
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ew Clayman more like staydead
Sep 20, 2021 2:09 PM
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Millim's pretending was fucking stupid
hey i'd do that to if i was her tbh!!
Sep 20, 2021 8:31 PM

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B-but Miliin IS mentally retarded, period.



Pretending to be controlled to discover what everybody knew about Clayman was just she being who she is.
Sep 21, 2021 2:21 AM

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B-but Miliin IS mentally retarded, period.



Pretending to be controlled to discover what everybody knew about Clayman was just she being who she is.


actually...there are milim's POV (point of view) moments that showcase her true iQ, she's actually pretty cunning too, easily the most cunning demon lord ever...why? cuz she has rich EXP (she's lived for far longer than clayman, karion and frey combined), genius brain and innocent/childish face...its supposed to be revealed back in season 1

Butt...the anime preferred to portray milim as just...an airhead...loli than a mature woman in loli's thong- I mean loli's clothing XD
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Lab_Rat_0978 said:
Rob7 said:
B-but Miliin IS mentally retarded, period.



Pretending to be controlled to discover what everybody knew about Clayman was just she being who she is.


actually...there are milim's POV (point of view) moments that showcase her true iQ, she's actually pretty cunning too, easily the most cunning demon lord ever...why? cuz she has rich EXP (she's lived for far longer than clayman, karion and frey combined), genius brain and innocent/childish face...its supposed to be revealed back in season 1

Butt...the anime preferred to portray milim as just...an airhead...loli than a mature woman in loli's thong- I mean loli's clothing XD



Te-he! Look my fluffy dragon gloves! Btw, did my worshipers and people died from hunger or in meaningless battle already? (would serves them right btw, what a bunch of lolicons)

Btw, my bad Clarion, the prank may included kill you and thousands of your population, i didnt know shit if my SUPA-BFF slime was able to prevent it, lalala!




In fact, aside the childish temper, the rest is just another day of weak and innocent lives being devastated by these powerful beings who couldn't care less about them
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In fact, aside the childish temper,


not really

arent we(?) adults already know how harsh reality can be? to obtain, something of equal value must be lost. sacrifice is inevitable

that said, milim's followers are confirmed to be dragonewts. did you seriously think they would starve to death for like days or weeks? lol

even a regular human irl could survive without water for weeks, and without food for months

not to mention, father middray is arguably a lot stronger than even the likes of yamzha. its confirmed by benimaru himself that he would die of he doesnt seriously try to kill him. father middray = benimaru >>> alvis >> yamzha

also, why would a mature woman like milim care about the ppl that arent even her relatives nor close friends? she's not a shounen MC thats always trying hard to save everyone at all cost

the rest is just another day of weak and innocent lives being devastated by these powerful beings who couldn't care less about them


not necessarily

ramiris is like the weakest demon lord but guy doesnt mind it and he still declares that he will kill anyone who dares to kill her

veldora also the same, despite being a lot superior than rimuru and the tempest denizens, he loves em all regardless

its not about the stronger will always stomp the weak, its about priority. BFF >>> colleagues
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Man, I almost started to pity him as they left him bleeding out gasping for air at the end. But then he goes powermad, turns his soul into power and starts laughing maniacally.

Interesting that "Voice of the World" asked him before starting the process though. Speaking of, poor Raphael lmao. Rimuru keeps ignoring her advice. At least she cheered up when he apologized lol

Also liked how Veldora referred to Milim as his older brother's only child. Instant family ties there that turned a random brawl into a bit of family fun fighting
Oct 7, 2021 3:11 AM
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It's so satisfying to see that the person we thought was deceiving everyone was the one being deceived from the get-go.
Oct 23, 2021 8:45 PM

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Damn, kinda surprised to see 3x3 eyes
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The whole non-stop BS talking from this season led to.... Clayman just getting his ass kicked by SHION, not even Rimuru lol. And Milim was faking the hypnosis effect the entire time and Carrion's alive and well lmao. It's smart planning from them behind the scenes against Clayman but boy did this make Clayman feel like the biggest geek in the universe and in turn, make this whole season feel like a waste of time to build to this fight over here where everything felt too easy and not worth planning much for lol (Milim pretending the whole time is so stupid to believe in as a viewer given how it just takes the tension out of everything with such a weak resolution and twist to that). Veldora performing manga powers were fun, rest of the episode did not do it for me at all, and we had to get an asspull to make Clayman be 'more powerful' at the brink of death with one last ditch effort after his desire to just have more power as he was nearly done for the final episode. Good job Tensura lol.
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Milim fooled (almost) everyone it seems. Except Guy Crimson, Raphael-san and Veldora. Will Clayman spill the beans in the last episode about who is the 'mastermind' behind everything? I recall Rimuru suspecting -without being sure about- that fellow Isekai'ed Japanese boy that he was the one who ratted him out on 'Witch' but I doubt they also suspect he is the mastermind behind Clayman's plans.

Whether Clayman survives or not in the last episode he will be out the game, so I guess the adversaries of the next season are going to be that Japanese guy and the three clowns - perhaps with a dash of Leon Cromwell and/or the 'Witch'.

I was kind of surprised to learn that the other three Clowns are all stronger than Clayman; and among them Laplace must surely be the strongest. Then again Clayman has always been all bark and no bite, so I should have expected that. As for the fights, at long last we got some great fights in this episode. The entire first half of the second part of season 2 was way too slow, talkative, docile and political, but at least the season ends with a bang, not a whimper.
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Byniavo said:
frozenduck74 said:
dude there were so many hints to milim not being controlled like Raphael not detecting her being controlled or guy earlier stating that milim was too strong to get controlled. you're just not paying attention.


bruh those are not hints. Maybe you should start paying attention to what you write


...?

That's *exactly* what they were.
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Well, well, well. This episode got interesting.

Veldora only came by to get more manga material and for that Rimuru had him spar with Milim without hurting her.

While that's going on Rimuru goes over to help Ranga, Shion, and Berreta if needed.

Beretta already took care of Viola and split her apart as an offering to Rimuru because both her and Ramiris want to live in Tempest. Rimuru has to think about it a little more as he can't simply create a place for them within the nation.

Ranga pointed out that Nine Head, Clayman's Thumb of the Five Fingers was actually under a spell of some kind and needed assistance. It ended up being a spell called Demon Dominate. With that Rimuru undid the spell and had Ranga protect him

Now all that's left is to help Shion. Which was completely unnecessary as Clayman was no match for Shion...

Now that Clayman has been defeated it is revealed to us the audience that he had people who were more powerful than him backing him up, the two Majins that Phobio was fighting with Geld and the principal to the school that Rimuru traveled to take care of Shizu's students.

However, Clayman has evolved and now it's time for Rimuru to deal with the mess.

I'm excited to see more!
Nov 11, 2021 6:41 AM

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Ha I knew it! Milim was just acting hehe. But I didn't know that harpy chick was in on it too. Also there we go again, the one behind it all is another human.
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sleepntsheep said:
Veldora is chuunibyou ✅


Well it was a tsundere dragon , he burned a whole city but didnt want to , he was ok to be eaten by a slime and proceed to play games , raphael said he was slacking off , now hes back and read manga , fights like in manga

Yeah a full chuuni tsundere dragon lol

But i wasnt expecting him to be millim uncle 🤔
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Dinxama said:
Does anypoe feel like the fight with Clayman is so one-sided that is boring?I understand that we want to see him get shit on but like the fight is so one-sided that i feel disastisfied with how it went

And the Millim wasn't controlled and Carion is still alive is lik an ass-pulled plot twist
I agree, all the tension from last episode practically vanished in this one with Veldora fighting for the lols and the rest not even getting a scratch. Maybe next episode will show us a more balanced encounter power-wise, but I really doubt it considering Rimuru will participate in it being op as hell.

Indeed. Clayman is terribly written. Him being weak despite being a Maou that has had build up since season 1 makes absolutely no sense. Other bad guys have been unrealistically beaten before, but this is the worst example, being the climax battle of the whole series. Having shion easily winning is a joke. The show is ruined with the constant pandering that makes no sense. Clayman is reduced to typical 1-dimensional comic book villain with barely any backstory & motivation, along with strength & intelligence inconsistent with his earlier portrayal. Too bad. It had potential.

The only somewhat decent thing remaining is the world-building. Character/villain powers are badly balanced.
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Interesting episode, I laughed at Veldora's reason for coming into Walpurgis and that his duel with Miliam was more horseplay then a fight. Found Beretta's scene with the dismantled doll to be funny, i really like Beretta's character tbh and hope they show them off more.

Miliam legit played all of us like a damn fiddle, talk about A* drama skills, I wonder if the charm was actually a geniune mind control spell that was too weak to control her, or she's just that good at acting.

Overall the fights this ep were great, loved seeing Shion just beating the shit out of Clayman.

Clayman after fulfilling his final role as a literal clown after it turns out everyone was deceiving him from the very start, later cheering in their spoils as he bleeds out on the floor, predictably gets his 1-up power boost and becomes big strong bad guy. Unsprinsingly as well Rimuru is already a step ahead with help with Raphael's plans.
Jan 8, 2022 12:22 PM

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Lol Veldora.

Easily the best episode in this season. Seems like Milim knew everything, expected her to actually have her revenge for getting hit so many times. We got some of Clayman's backstory as well which was interesting. Laplace sounds like a good character, I want to know more about him.
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Jan 25, 2022 7:51 AM

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Whew great action in this one, satisfying to see Clayman beat up like that!
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I had assumed that Milim was just playing along, partially because it would be weird for there to be an item that allowed someone to control her, but mostly because a couple of episodes back Clayman mentioned that her going to Eurazania and giving a weeks notice before attacking was not part of his plan. So she did it to allow them time to evacuate the capital, then returned and only did property damage.

In the fight at Walpurgis, It seemed like she was just pushing Rimuru to the limit (intermittently) so the other demon lords could witness it, and see what he's already capable of in such a short time. At their current power levels, I don't think Rimuru would have had the chance to dodge multiple times, or stand around worrying about the others if she's been giving it 100%

Also it did seem like only Clayman and Rimuru were actually surprised to see Carrion there - and Rimuru had previously mentioned he wasn't 100% sure about Carrion being dead, so the others probably never really believed he'd been killed. They likely know a lot more about what's going on in the world than the rest of the population, and newer demon lords

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Jan 15, 2023 3:17 AM

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Truly glorious to see Veldora use all those moves without any worries about copyright takedowns.

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Dinxama said:
Does anypoe feel like the fight with Clayman is so one-sided that is boring?I understand that we want to see him get shit on but like the fight is so one-sided that i feel disastisfied with how it went

And the Millim wasn't controlled and Carion is still alive is lik an ass-pulled plot twist
You don't know what an asspull is and you aren't used to good writing, n9t your fault. It was foreshadowed throughout every single episode that Carion might still be alive and everyone who rimuru asked said it was impossible for Milim to be controlled, even when he asked Rafael, he/ she said there was no controll spell to undo. Soui and the princess was also looking for Carion in that building where the skeleton guy was protecting.
Mar 5, 2023 4:21 AM

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Those Street Fighter and other references were killing me, Velodra is great lol
So wait... if Milim was never under his control, then she willingly destroyed Eurazania? So... if Rimuru would not have interferred, all of Carrion's subjects would have died? And even with Rimuru interferring, his three basketeers could've died in the battle against Clayman's forces. And for what exactly, why did Milim have to fool Clayman instead of just getting rid of him and not ruining the live of hundreds of people? I love this show, but this horrible plot twist makes no sense.
Apr 23, 2023 3:16 PM

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God I've never laughed this hard after seeing a "groundbreaking" twist. Like I don't even know why we needed that whole "Milim being controlled" thing to begin with now, as it never made sense. I even wrote somewhere that how this was so unlike to what author's been doing since the start. So yeah beyond pointless, unless it was to get some reactions out of the readers or viewers.

Also.. Clayman, really? Dude got his ass handed to him by Shion?? That's beyond embarrassing. And he was some master schemer lol. So much for build-ups.
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It's an interesting revelation that Milim and Veldora are kin.

At least Veldora's sparring session with Milim looked cool! Too bad the fight scenes were too short. I love all the Street Fighter references he used, especially that SS + Kamehameha. That was so awesome! Haha!

Clayman's transformation looks badass! It's too bad he wouldn't be able to scratch Rimuru still.

After an interesting start, I'm disappointed that this fight quickly turned one-sided. So far, only the fight against Hinata was interesting. It still annoys me that Rimuru's minions are as OP as him. I hope Yuuki can make this show interesting and that there will be cool fights in S3.
Nov 24, 2023 5:32 AM
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It was me, Milim! All along!
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That's all CLayman got? Pathetic
Mar 15, 2024 12:42 PM

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all according to keikaku, huh.
as anticlimactic as that was and as betrayed as i feel i cant deny it was funny.


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Kamehameha wasn't expected
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I find it strange that Milim was become a doll just because an necklace especially that she is even Amon demon lords one of the strongest, I’m kind of in shock that Milim didn’t beat shit out of Clayman the first time he punch her but she is smarter than I expected. Just I’m not sure why did she not just erased him in the first place and waited this long
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