A Certain Magical Index (light novel)
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Tiau said: The Kakine vs accelerator fight wasn’t really ruined either, considering it was nearly 1:1 and also has some additional scenes like the water tower, the only real bad part is really at the end, where accelerator just looks kinda silly when his punches should look better. But the Kakine fight was pretty much destined to be underwhelming for people who’s been hyped up about it, there’s a reason why people call him a jobber I was mostly referring the end of Kakine fight (I did not state it properly, sorry), I was actually expected Kakine being got trashed and his body got destroys in a similar way to Kihara's death, just like the way LN described what happened to Kakine in the near end of Vol. 15. To add your thought about Accelerator's punches, Accelerator's wings also look really underwhelm here and it didn't look same as in Index II. The way animation quality seemly dropped during that scene also don't helps either. |
| That episode was... Something. Honestly, this had to be the worst arc of Index I've seen. Rushed to hell, little to no explanation or introduction to who the characters were and what they were doing, battles end in 5 seconds. The sheer amount of characters we had no context for was staggering. So Mugino is a fucking monster and killed Frenda, yet no one reacts to Mugino carrying half of her corpse? Like seriously? Hamazura knew them to a point, he didn't even react. It pissed me off even more than I already was with Frenda being murdered. A character we've known for multiple seasons, gone like that with no reaction from anyone. Shameful to say the least. Mugino is a total babe, but she can go fuck herself. Not sure how she survived point blank gun shots, but seeing Hamazura punch her in the face was satisfying. I blinked and the last battle was over. I thought this new guy would actually be a threat, it took about 2 seconds for Accelerator to finish him. Kind of boring honestly. I've been so looking forward to seeing this show comeback, but these last few weeks have had me dread watching this show. I just want Toma and Index back. |
Todd_ said: Actually one arc in one season, that wasn't even her debut technically.It pissed me off even more than I already was with Frenda being murdered. A character we've known for multiple seasons, |
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otakukid said: Did it seem decent to the anime-only viewers? If you have seen the entire discussion thread of EP4-6, you should know that the anime-only fans mostly have no idea what's going on and referred Battle Royale Arc as one of the worst arc ever they have seen in the entire Toaru anime franchise. |
| well that was something and thensome... I guess we are done with the science side now on to the magical one |
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ssjokg said: -No interaction between Shiage and Rikou prior to Kakine's attack -Mugino's left arm didnt blow up. -Accel uses black winds for EVERYTHING. -Kakine had no Awakening -Yomikawa just pops up everywhere -Shiage's friends who he talks to in this ep arent seen.Why even bother then? -OST is atrocius -Shiage's plan in the fight is never explained.He just beats the Level 5 that Misaka had troubles with with no real effort -Anti-Skill just popped out of nowhere -Hamazura and Yomikawa totally ignore a half melted body of a loli girl...... This shit is almost at Umineko's level. Finished reading vol15 yesterday, gotta agree, the only least bad adapted part was Kakine vs Acell, but even that one, disappointed me a bit, since I was expecting it to be more brutal like in the LN, whereas here Acell just seems to be bitch slapping Kakine when this one is K.O., the LN made it sound that it was really terrific and loud, Kakine's flesh being torn off slowly and etc etc... Just like previous episode, I like that they added the scene were we see Mugino going after Frenda, since that doesnt even show up in the LN, but everything else including Mugino vs Hamaziura, too much skipped to keep the budget and time. Mugino didnt seem any powerfull, Railgun S did Meltdowner soo much better... One of the worst adaptations ever, of one of the best light novel arcs ever. Again, pity anime originals. |
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| Unlike most, I wasn't too fond of Last Order's appearing and what she did, because it's like the most overused cliche ever, and I kinda grew to hate it quite a bit after having to sit through it a zillion times, so that, along with no small amounts of derpy animation (here's meager hoping they will fix it for the bd release), kind of spoiled my enjoyment from this otherwise perfectly brutal and badass fight. |
CGDec 10, 2018 10:31 PM
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Accelerator vs Kakine was a fight one. RIP Frenda. |
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| Hamazura vs Mugino was a massive let down. Accelerator vs Dark Matter was a lot less disappointing. The animation was actually pretty damn good! Overall most rushed arc in the series. |
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Adome said: G_Spark233 said: Hamazura vs Mugino was a massive let down. Accelerator vs Dark Matter was a lot less disappointing. The animation was actually pretty damn good! Hmm what? The animation of Accel vs Kakine was so bad that it became a meme in Japan. Do you have an actual source for this? |
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| Umm. Wow like is it just me or did this episode, nay this whole arc feel like it was a big damn mess. It's like i don't even know what happened. Or why? And who the fuck were half of these people? And why was i supposed to be interested in them? And why the hell were Block? (Or was It Group) defending Aleister? Yeah this season has just dropped to the bottom of the three Index seasons so far. Edit-And also Mugino's descent into insanity like came out of nowhere. |
R2Mar 1, 2019 10:35 AM
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| RIP Frenda. Fuck you Mugino. Kakine vs Accelerator was so one-sided it was hilarious, even Kihara gave him a better fight. How the hell did Touma beat Accel? Also judging from the comments it seems like this is a really piss poor adaptation. Makes me wonder if its even worse than Overlord's adaptation |
| Accelerator vs Kakine was amazing.... Mugino vs Hamazura was very rushed. RIP Frenda. |
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| Well that surely was very impressive, great ending if you ask me! Really liked that, looking forwards to see what's next. |
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| Lmfao JC Staff is on drugs wtf |
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| Yo what the fuck? This episode so dark. Frenda = RIP? |
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| Judging from the episode discussion I'm not the only who really doesn't know who the majority of the characters are. Even if I watched the last 2 seasons 6 years ago everything just seems so ... everywhere, every fight lasts about a few minutes until we move on to another group of people that move from place to place. The Vector punches looked really bland aswell, I love Accelerator and this was just meh. |
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| This episode started out really well but they tried to put too much into the second half. As a novel reader they really skipped a lot this arc but they definitely paced this episode ok compared to the first 2. Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
anime-primeDec 7, 2020 8:49 AM
| Objectivity? In my anime scoring? Of course not... |
| Ya know I just came back to try and finish watching this season after completing Railgun T, but this is just too horrendous. It's so bad..nothing makes sense, just about everything about this is bad. Might just go read the LN or manga instead now.. |
| Oh great, we got a second Touma... he always wins against way stronger people for no reason by simply punching them. |
| Kakine. Headshot. +150 OH SHIT!! Frenda dead. LMAO She stopped the train. OH SHIT! She put it in his ear. OH SHIT! RIGHT IN THE EYE! He shot Shizuri. Dat punch. Shizuri... is dead? Kakine appears before Uiharu. OH SHIT! He kicked Uiharu. YOU DONT KICK UIHARU! Accelerator. Uiharu running away like an unimportant character. Dem wings. LMAO at Kakine saying he knows how his wings look. Accelerator won. Dat backstab. Accelerator going out of control. Dat language. Last Order. Accelerator reverts back. DRAGON? Dat ending. What an episode. I was not expecting Frenda to die.... like that. Is Shizuri dead? She got shot multiple times, her eye bashed in and got punched. Don't answer that. I can look it up myself. You know how I know Shiage gave no focks? He shot her in the oppai multiple times. You dont shoot big oppai. Kakine committed sin. You don't hurt Uiharu. I appreciated the air battle. |
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| Damn, I know Frenda sold out her teammates because she was getting tortured, but Mugino was brutal on her. I thought they were on more friendlier terms than that. What a psycho. All in all, similar to the first season of Index, massive info dump and context is missing for a lot of it so far. Tends to get more confusing. |
| This is the arc that the anime made me got into the LNs, so I'm somewhat grateful for how horrendous the adaptation was Kakine vs Accelerator fight was somewhat decent, but Mugino vs Hamazura was butchered to death, both fights should get an episode each tbh |
| -_- wth with this season...did that lazer girl got crazy cause the loli told the bad guy where she was...they could have explained this That blonde guy that shot the lazer girl , theres too much screen time for him The loli died , seems no one care , i do , -1 point The grimoire girl , why introducing her then skip her , i hope her power that should be inside the guy will come later The fight started while uiharu was still down , but she managed to get up and run at slow speed in only 2 sec...stop skiping part pls Big white ball...i will just forget about it , probably skiped part again Misaka misaka god like , i hope its explained later Well im happy with the pink dress girl and her power , she have bit*h power , able to make anyone love her , it seems she used it on me XD Well for now 7/10 , usualy to aru is around 8-9/10 , it might go to 6 if they keep skiping important things and killing cute girls 😓 |
Loli world is just a cute world full of cute meat |
| Well, with how different groups are fighting in this city, easy like that.. It really looks as if mafia gangs or something fighting between themselves, lol.. This city really went to shit, if such things happen in broad day light?.. I have no idea, who dies and who not from that group.. But if so many deaths of kinda important characters - it feels they weren't done justice, really.. Like, yeah, realistically anyone can die at any moment or something.. But also it's just not satisfying to watch.. Kind of disappointing seeing interesting characters dying for only reason of realism.. Like, ok?.. Hope next episode will be more interesting, and this one - can only shrug at wasted potential, I guess.. |
| Wow, J.C. should have immediately lost the Index rights after this episode. Hamazura's arc and development was completely destroyed. And not a single second of breathing time in the lead-up to Accelerator vs. Dark Matter, it was basically reduced town to a powerpoint presentation. Also, apparently Meltdowner If I had to give props for one thing, it was the final scene between Accelerator and Last Order, it did feel right and moving. |
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| Finally someone put a few bullets into that bitch. Long overdue. Anti-climactic as this was, I still did enjoy seeing Hamazura fill Mugino with lead - at the very least they should have shown him pop the second gun out of his sleeve like the first - it would have given the scene a bit more impact. I get the feeling they didn't really even try with this... which is criminal. yanagiyakokoro said: As a level 0 without Imagine Breaker, I didn't realise it was that easy to beat a level 5. Well, considering she was obviously underestimating him for the entire time they were on the same team, and how she was just running rampant in a psychopathic rage, it's not really all that unrealistic that she wouldn't expect Hamazura to have a hidden gun on both arms. I mean, she was practically begging for someone to come up and fill her with lead, with the way she's acted. Gendolfas said: Well, with how different groups are fighting in this city, easy like that.. It really looks as if mafia gangs or something fighting between themselves, lol.. This city really went to shit, if such things happen in broad day light?.. I have no idea, who dies and who not from that group.. But if so many deaths of kinda important characters - it feels they weren't done justice, really.. That is basically what it is, innit? Most of the characters involved in this arc work for dark-side organizations... as far as Academy city even being a deterrent to them running wild like this - lol, well, that works maybe if you've got them under constant surveillance and locked down - but here you have several insane level 5's and organizations hired by scientists, trying to curry favor from Academy City's leader, or working directly for Academy City - seems a pretty accurate way to sum up what is happening. Academy City might have a police/SWAT like force for dealing with Espers - but level 5's (and 4's if we're being honest) are kind of above and beyond what their countermeasures can typically deal with or prevent... one would assume. Antiskill sure get their asses kicked a lot. Judgment - and mostly because of Kuroko, are the only "law" that accomplish jack in this city, haha. Agree with you completely that they really didn't do some of these scenes / deaths / fights justice... par for the course with the Index anime, sadly. Good story and characters, crappy adaptation. |
Alpha-MethylJan 24, 2022 2:41 PM
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Alpha-Methyl said: Judgment - and mostly because of Kuroko, are the only "law" that accomplish jack in this city, haha. Actually Anti-Skill does more job, but they can be manipulated more by governing board officials. Judgement doesn't have much work freedom, and they are inhibited to local areas. Their main work is paperwork XD. |
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| my god but what I just watched xD! The end of Item ?? a scenario that seems to be misplaced in the story ? A total misunderstanding! This is 2022 and I guess no one still understands why this arc is here! :3 (np: I watch the Toaru series in their order of release so I guess it's normal that I'm in the misunderstanding) |
| Still don't know what's happening. And the group of girls merceranies? from the railgun series, they feel different. At the least the lvl 5. But I guess two of them are dead? So doesn't matter anymore. |
| and why did our esper #4 do all that? and why are all the top espers crazy except mikoto which is surprising concidering what she has gone through too. also yay last order |
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| I'm sure this was supposed to be epic, Accelerator vs Kakine.. the first rank vs the second rank but, I didn't feel that way at all watching that. Accelerator did obliterate Kakine in the end, though the animation was just too much of an eyesore to care about anything. Heck even Index I and II had better animation. But hey this was still "somewhat" better than what we got with Mugino against blonde Touma. Better not to specify things further.. though hey Mugino really killed Frenda just like that. I thought they were good friends lol. End to a horrendous arc, but somehow I get the feeling this isn't the last one of those in this season. |
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| Ah, this was indeed the prologue, and in the next episode, it's back to the main story. Mugino is so brutal when she's angry. She didn't think twice about killing Frenda when she learned she betrayed her. What an unexpected development since they were having SOL moments just a few episodes ago. Frenda was a waste of fine meat. I think she'd still taste good if grilled. What happened to Mugino? is she out for good? When this arc began, it wasn't very clear at first. Still, the story is about the infighting of the factions within Academy City, and the main focus is Kakine's faction which is trying to gain the favor of Aleister Crowley. Anyway, that fight between the highest levels was pretty cool. |
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