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Dec 19, 2010 5:14 PM

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Man, Shirou...he's a respectable guy of great moral stature, but damn his naivete really killed me this episode. The fact that he didn't summon Saber when he was about to die was rather ridiculous. Honestly, was he counting on the fact that Rin was gonna bail him out? -__-

Archer summed up my thoughts nicely towards the end. His ideals are going to be shattered soon whether he likes it or not.
Feb 10, 2011 3:49 AM

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Archer gave him the lesson he had to learn someday!!
May 1, 2011 3:41 PM
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What doesn't Emiya get? I'm so mad at him for being this stupid! Its called a war for a reason.
Sep 13, 2011 10:19 AM

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Yeah, Shirou is an idiot. I hate him.

Saber on otherhand is AWESOME.
Oct 31, 2011 3:14 PM

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Man, they really fucked up Shirou in this adaptation. In the actual Fate route in the Visual Novel he DOES in fact actually summon Saber, why they changed that and went with the UBW battle instead I have no idea.

As for Rin's actions in this mini-arc, It's very clear she doesn't actually want to kill him, as in both the anime and VN up to this point she has warned Shirou not to come near her. It's fairly obvious that she used this run in with Rider as an excuse to not have to fight Shirou, consider it her concept of "honor" screwing her over again.

Again, I really can't stress enough how much I dislike the melding of these routes in this series.
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Nov 6, 2011 9:24 AM

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Shirou's got the right idea, but he needs to temper his ideals a bit. I don't want to tell him to give up on his principles, because they're good principles (except for the sexist chivalry), but he at least needs to learn the concept of sacrifice.
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Mar 31, 2012 5:43 PM

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Its been 6 ep but shirou still a dumbazz.
At least finally Archer taught him a lesson.
But wut dont you get Masters can never beat servants in a fight.

I think this is gonna be a cliche story where he powers up to be so strong that he can beat all the servants.
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Apr 27, 2012 4:57 PM
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I am on the verge of stopping this show because of Shiro, I mean my god he makes Waver look like a badass, this is war, he cannot just wander around aimlessly without protection or he will die.
I am literaly now on the verge of starting to yell at the screen, how did he not notice he was impaled through the arm, even if it was invisible HE WASN'T FREAKING BLEEDING! Not just that but Tohsaka annoyed me just as much, way to make a truce with a guy who is up there with Homer Simpson for intelligence, I think she is trying to lose if, honestly she needs to kill Shiro no to be evil, but just because at least unlike some of the masters she would do it fast and painless.
It is like Shiro is a character made to hate, if his father wasn't Kuritsugu I would honestly think he would die, butt hen again he is the main character and as such he is probably going to end it with him winning and doing something dumb like "I wish magic doesn't exist".
I am 5 seconds away from stopping watching this show if it doesn't improve and Shiro doesn't come at least competent enough to allow saber to fight.
May 6, 2012 9:09 AM
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WHY GOD, WHY?
Emiya is ridiculous ._.

Worst.protagonist.ever

Screw him with his stupid idealism.
No one can achieve anything with ideals.
Jun 29, 2012 9:59 AM

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Shiro really irritates me, hes weak and too trusting. In real life he wouldnt stand a chance. I like Tohsaka. Archer, wow, he took the words right out of my mouth. He definitly told Shiro some things that he really needed to hear. I hope that Shiro gets his head on his shoulders and that he realizes that he may have to kill people and that he shouldnt feel remorse because they wouldnt if they were in his place.
Jul 23, 2012 7:39 AM

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About Shirou being to much an idealist:
(Possible FZ spoilers)


So obviously he is an idiot because he thinks he can take Rider on just by himself...but I think his ideals (and I think Saber's ideals as well; as she was strongly opposed to Kirutsugu's method of trying to win the previous war) are right and could prevent the events that happened at the end of FZ to repeat.
Jul 23, 2012 9:02 AM

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Khalan3 said:
About Shirou being to much an idealist:
(Possible FZ spoilers)


So obviously he is an idiot because he thinks he can take Rider on just by himself...but I think his ideals (and I think Saber's ideals as well; as she was strongly opposed to Kirutsugu's method of trying to win the previous war) are right and could prevent the events that happened at the end of FZ to repeat.


Nope.
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And if you ask me both Kiritsugu's and Shirou's ideals are right but have their own problems.Kiritsugu is like
and Shirou
Jul 23, 2012 1:18 PM
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And t's funny people were feeling sorry for Saber having a stupid Master when Saber's ideals are just as naive as Shirou's. They have the same line of thinking, protect everything at all costs and don't let it come to harm. In Fate route, it was Saber he wanted to protect. Also, Saber's code forbids her of injuring people that have nothing to do with her battles, or killing unarmed civilians and those who give up. She's a knight so chivalry and honor is all for her.

Aug 21, 2012 9:06 PM

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Needs more Saber being awesome and less Shirou running around being bullied by other magicians and servants because he has Saber on house arrest.

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Aug 22, 2012 2:02 AM

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DarkShards said:
Needs more Saber being awesome and less Shirou running around being bullied by other magicians and servants because he has Saber on house arrest.


FSN anime needed more Archer and less Saber.
Aug 22, 2012 11:45 AM

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ssjokg said:
DarkShards said:
Needs more Saber being awesome and less Shirou running around being bullied by other magicians and servants because he has Saber on house arrest.


FSN anime needed more Archer and less Saber.


Exactly. It might've actually been a really good anime then.
Dec 4, 2012 3:51 AM

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First part was rather nice quite some good action but the second part was just story development and was rather boring, but yea I'll keep watching...
Feb 12, 2013 9:04 PM

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ItsMeAndrea said:
DAMN. I agree with Archer... Shiro is really naive and... -.- I dont know how to describe him.


Oh you have no idea....but yeah Shirou wonderfully naive and blind.
Mar 4, 2013 4:14 PM

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Emiya is really rather naive, but I guess he will understand that soon enough.

Apr 19, 2013 9:11 AM

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Shirou, stop being a wuss! Gosh!

...Rider~
Jun 13, 2013 4:27 AM

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damn rin is really attack shiro lol XD quite thrilling :3

btw shiro has a strong hand.. XD that kind of spear that rider use to kill rin is quite creepy btw :p
rider look so hot btw :3
I believe shinji is master of rider

btw so shiro really cant do any magic hmm :/
Jun 13, 2013 6:43 AM

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makarov52 said:
damn rin is really attack shiro lol XD quite thrilling :3

btw shiro has a strong hand.. XD that kind of spear that rider use to kill rin is quite creepy btw :p
rider look so hot btw :3
I believe shinji is master of rider

btw so shiro really cant do any magic hmm :/
He can.He has been doing some since the beginning.
Jun 13, 2013 10:46 AM

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ssjokg said:
makarov52 said:
damn rin is really attack shiro lol XD quite thrilling :3

btw shiro has a strong hand.. XD that kind of spear that rider use to kill rin is quite creepy btw :p
rider look so hot btw :3
I believe shinji is master of rider

btw so shiro really cant do any magic hmm :/
He can.He has been doing some since the beginning.

yeah.. actually its awesome lol XD
Jul 24, 2013 3:25 PM

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This episode went really fast. I wonder what turn of event things turn out as there are several possibilites where could creators go now. But after all those explanations and introducing meeting I guess we switch back to Fate route. Time to some relax.
Sep 1, 2013 7:26 PM

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His hero of something thinking is really annoying, sounds like a little child's dream.
Sep 2, 2013 3:52 AM

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shayryu said:
His hero of something thinking is really annoying, sounds like a little child's dream.

Because thats exactly what it is.I am not sure if you missed the point or not.
Sep 15, 2013 8:19 PM
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Honestly, I'm really liking this anime so far, some nice action and good characters. This was a pretty nice episode, as well.
Jan 30, 2014 9:11 AM

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Things are getting really good in this anime and the story seems very promising. Fantastic episode.
Apr 13, 2014 2:27 AM

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In contrast with Fate/Zero, this is prettig boring so far... I hope the action will come soon..?
Apr 13, 2014 2:30 AM

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Mimysse said:
In contrast with Fate/Zero, this is prettig boring so far... I hope the action will come soon..?


Nope it gets worse.

The animation studio who was adapting this decided to MAJORLY save up money in terms of animation, by toning shit down everywhere and creating their own filler-esque anime original story.
May 13, 2014 1:11 PM
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I thought shiro reason for not using his seal was cause he only has 3 so unless he really has to use it makes no sense to waste it.Though the reason of not wanting her to fight is kinda silly since thats what she is made to do and dude you do have to beat other servants.He can still stick to his ideals of not killing since you dont have to kill the master or regular people.The guy has to make some leaway.His character doesint really bug me just some of his ideals are a bit to unrealistic. Also its pretty obvious his douch bag friend is the one controlling rider.
May 15, 2014 6:22 AM

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I thought shiro reason for not using his seal was cause he only has 3 so unless he really has to use it makes no sense to waste it.Though the reason of not wanting her to fight is kinda silly since thats what she is made to do and dude you do have to beat other servants.He can still stick to his ideals of not killing since you dont have to kill the master or regular people.The guy has to make some leaway.His character doesint really bug me just some of his ideals are a bit to unrealistic. Also its pretty obvious his douch bag friend is the one controlling rider.


His ideal and his existence are two different factors.

Someone fighting FOR him is worse than death, because it defies his sole reason of existing past his own accepted point of death.
Aug 21, 2014 3:32 PM

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I hated Shirou at first, but I started to warm up to him halfway through the fate route. After finishing the route I started to respect him.
As someone mentioned Saber's beliefs are worse, but still you get to understand them after knowing more about their lives. I don't expect the same development from the anime though.
Dec 7, 2014 2:51 PM
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CookingPriest said:
Mimysse said:
In contrast with Fate/Zero, this is prettig boring so far... I hope the action will come soon..?


Nope it gets worse.

The animation studio who was adapting this decided to MAJORLY save up money in terms of animation, by toning shit down everywhere and creating their own filler-esque anime original story.


Worse than zero? Good one.
Feb 17, 2015 2:56 PM

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So Rin stops to attack Shirou, good. Rider attacks, damn she looks hot I'm really diggin' her design. So now they made a truce, I thought they'd make an alliance to team up against all the other masters and then fight one-on-one. Maybe it'll still happen.

About the characters so far:
Shirou - gets kinda annoying at times, you can't protect everyone man.
Saber - cool character, I like loyal people
Rin - tsundere, at least try not to kill Shirou all the time...
Archer - smartypants, and here I thought he doesn't talk much
Rider - hot, she doesn't seem to be a total bitch, hopefully she won't become one
Feb 17, 2015 2:58 PM

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who the fuck is still watching this shit
Feb 18, 2015 2:28 AM

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fst said:
who the fuck is still watching this shit

Hello *winks*

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and this is exactly you shouldt watch this piece of shit because its fucking butcherd the character, rin never really tried to kill him, and with saber why im not suprise you think she is cool when the anime makes she here like a second jesus

Haha thanks that's exactly the response I wanted. So Rin isn't actually that bad, I hoped someone would say that :P
Jun 29, 2015 5:01 PM

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About time they formed a truce... but I think it could be something more if Emiya pushed for it, now that they helped each other multiple times and became acquainted so much already. If I was Emiya, given my lack of experience and skills, I would've asked for an alliance with Toosaka until all other masters are defeated, and then have fair fight between each other for Holy Grail. I don't think Toosaka would have any objections to that, as things would go smoothly for both of them and Emiya would get all experience he needs and hence no reason for Toosaka to hold back anymore.

Of course, it's actually Emiya who wouldn't actually agree on any of that.

And by the way, Archer is totally right IMO.


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May 16, 2016 5:28 AM

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Fai said:
souledge94 said:
I thought shiro reason for not using his seal was cause he only has 3 so unless he really has to use it makes no sense to waste it.Though the reason of not wanting her to fight is kinda silly since thats what she is made to do and dude you do have to beat other servants.He can still stick to his ideals of not killing since you dont have to kill the master or regular people.The guy has to make some leaway.His character doesint really bug me just some of his ideals are a bit to unrealistic. Also its pretty obvious his douch bag friend is the one controlling rider.


His ideal and his existence are two different factors.

Someone fighting FOR him is worse than death, because it defies his sole reason of existing past his own accepted point of death.


And besides, he prefers his own sacrifice than others'.
Just realise that his life has been seriously threatened by Rider, but even that, he decided not to summon Saber. Death was just upon him, that would be one of those necessary occasions to summon his servant, but even that, he didnt.
Nov 6, 2016 12:43 PM

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I can't blame Rin and Archer, Shirou strains my patience too. And Rin should stop apologizing to that dork.

He doesn't want to drag Saber into it? The person, whose purpose this is and has bigger chances of survival than he has! Doesn't he realize, that it's game over for her too, if he dies!

You're the world heavyweight champion of dumbass - Touko Sagisaka.

They should kill him off already and make Tsunderin the heroine.
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Nov 17, 2016 5:46 PM

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ill give emiya a few points for taking the shot for rin
Apr 28, 2017 12:44 PM

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Emiya's naivety is starting to get on my nerves a bit. He needs to wake up to reality or he's gonna eat dirt.
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Jul 9, 2017 2:29 AM

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I guess Shiro's idealistic obsession will go a bit down when he'll learn that his Saber had a hand in the old incident.
Archer, by the way, doesn't sound like a past hero but more like a young blind idealistic boy whose experiences turned into a bitter and broken veteran.

There were so many distorted characters bodies and faces...

The imagery behind the deceased "heroes" is terrible: now, we have a sexual sadism queen -_-"

3/5 Let's see how this little school intrigue goes (hoping it won't last too long)


Are anime´watchers stupid? There is no problem with the hero's behaviour as long as it is addressed. This has clearly two possible big ways: either the course of events shatters the hero's idea or the hero goes through a doubting phase only to come out with stronger resolve.
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Pretty slow paced. It was still fairly entertaining, but not very exciting.

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May 22, 2018 12:10 AM

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this episode was a bit too convenient for me. the time rider showed up, then rin's timing in shirou's fight. it's a bit too boring to be honest.
shirou is a boring character and rin... she could be awesome if she wasn't so obviously falling for him.
i do agree, he's much more likeable in ubw - and even there his idealism is grating - and here he's just becoming more annoying every episode.

i guess i'm a bit bitter about fate now that i discovered each route corresponds to a different girl being his 'love interest'. for fuck's sake, i was happy i thought this wasn't a harem show. );
Sep 20, 2018 2:38 PM

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I already miss Kiritsugu. This anime is so different to Fate/Zero.
Jun 7, 2019 2:36 AM

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Pretty sure Rider's master was Shinji.
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Sep 18, 2019 2:25 AM
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Fate/Stay Night is fucking boring. even though i watch it several times.. oh no im fate nerd. someone fuck me
Oct 11, 2019 11:10 AM

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hmmm I like this shirou better....seems more genuine
Jan 13, 2020 6:47 PM

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Wow, 6 episodes in and this anime managed to piss me off completely already. That's a new record, folks.
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