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| Sounds like Milverton became a common enemy for both Holmes & Moriarty. I remembered that story, or more like I had fragments coming back to memory but can't exactly figure out if it was part of an original book or something else. |
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| This series is still criminally slept on and it hurts smh |
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| Sherlock's reaction to John's marriage is the same as Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey Jr. It would be funny going forward if we see Sherlock get more possessive of John like the movie too. This episode was interesting with the deductions and how well Sherlock can just perceive people by one glance at their postural behavior. Also now both Sherlock and Moriarty are on Milverton's ass, man's messing with two hornet nests at the same time. |
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| I’ve noticed myself starting to fade on this anime and this episode didn’t help change my mond very much. The case wasn’t very interesting and Mary being blackmailed by Milverton saying he will break up her wedding makes very little sense. Was this supposed to mean he has information that would make John not want to marry her? Either way, it felt like a very shoe-horned way to get Holmes to go after Milverton too. |
| At first, I thought they skipped the whole "The Sign of the Four" case, and went straight to announcing John and Mary's marriage. But, no! They just rearranged it to give Milverton a chance to appear. This condensed a whole novel into an episode that's not even 25 minutes. So, the pacing felt so off to me. Small was so cartoonish when he threw the treasure. |
| I was wondering how this case was related to the story until Milverton was involved. A good story nonetheless tho! |
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| Idk why Milverton dare to challenged Sherlock via John's marriage situations. I thought it was all about him and Moriarty. There's no pov of him about this episode, either before which stating his interest over Sherlock (or am i forget something?). But, its completely wrong. Yeah, i remember him spying an eye on Sherlock when reaching the end status of Jack the Ripper chapter. Now, its make more clear now. What a madlad, truly a worthy villain on these last campaign, for me, and for them. But, here it was, the plot. Its forced the two opposite sides, to cooperating with each other, together, taking down the king of blackmailers, Milverton. How convenient. Interesting to see whats setup they got before the main course. So, yeah, that's it! About this episode in general was okay. A bit too simple for Sherlock case standard, even i don't pay much sweat figuring out whats goin on. But, on Milverton case, its different. So, yeah, an alright setting for the main act.... |
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| nothing would escape Sherlock's deduction prowess!! 5/5. |
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UltimateKai said: Bruh I didn’t trust Mary from the start her excuse sounds scripted. This show makes me wanna read Sherlock again tho it’s crazy how they fit so much story in 22 minutes! Mary is fine. Milverton the real bad guy here. |
| Pretty good episode! Glad Mary wasn't just using John or something, but her getting blackmailed ain't good though. Now Milverton gonna have Sherlock and Moriarty coming after him. |
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| ooh, they did a nice adaptation of the Sign of Four but with the twist at the end linking it to the Milverton case. I like it!! theGodde said: Soupisekaitrash said: bruh the simpsons ripped off the original source material this show is based on.Garbage episode, literally ripped off the simpsons LOL. At least Milverton gets more action, and the preview looks promising why has nobody here actually read OG sherlock holmes? It's geniunely so good. One of the most famous stories of all time for a reason. Give it a read. You'll understand why I look down on this anime adaptation once you do There are several of us here every week who have read the original stories and novels. Not many, but a handful. |
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FuMomo-kun said: At first, I thought they skipped the whole "The Sign of the Four" case, and went straight to announcing John and Mary's marriage. But, no! They just rearranged it to give Milverton a chance to appear. This condensed a whole novel into an episode that's not even 25 minutes. So, the pacing felt so off to me. Small was so cartoonish when he threw the treasure. This is one of the first stories released by Conan Doyle. If I remember correctly, this is the story where The other released stories (most of them), occur before the events of the "The Sign of the Four". There is the conversation between Holmes and Miss Hudson where she said that Mary is a pretty lady, and Holmes replied that he didn't notice. In the novel, At first, I thought this anime is gonna be another "Kabukichou Sherlock" (which I dropped after 3 episode), and I couldn't be more wrong. This adaption is interesting and It has its moments of suspense and thrill. |
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| While it was good to get some more typical Sherlock action, this episode is just another instance of how utterly disjointed this second season has been, completely disrupting the momentum the "Lord of Crime" stuff was building after Whiteley's death last week to bring us what essentially amounts to a side story that does nothing to keep things moving besides a tacked-on connection to Milverton. And speaking of that connection, if Sherlock is aware of Milverton as a prominent figure in London's criminal underground, how was Moriarty's group unaware of him until recently when they have a lot more connections in that area? Seriously, introducing Milverton was one of the dumbest choices this season made, not as dumb as James Bonde or the blatant Two-Face rip-off arc we just got, but not far off. |
| The pacing here felt like it should have been a 2 episode arc, but I guess it's leading into something with Milverton so perhaps they wanted to get to that in time for season finale stuff. |
tomarwan said: FuMomo-kun said: At first, I thought they skipped the whole "The Sign of the Four" case, and went straight to announcing John and Mary's marriage. But, no! They just rearranged it to give Milverton a chance to appear. This condensed a whole novel into an episode that's not even 25 minutes. So, the pacing felt so off to me. Small was so cartoonish when he threw the treasure. This is one of the first stories released by Conan Doyle. If I remember correctly, this is the story where The other released stories (most of them), occur before the events of the "The Sign of the Four". There is the conversation between Holmes and Miss Hudson where she said that Mary is a pretty lady, and Holmes replied that he didn't notice. In the novel, At first, I thought this anime is gonna be another "Kabukichou Sherlock" (which I dropped after 3 episode), and I couldn't be more wrong. This adaption is interesting and It has its moments of suspense and thrill. Didn't Sherlock and John meet Irene after John got married and moved out? And Mycroft: John was supposed to meet him way later. I can't understand why they'd change so much of the order of events. Keeping the original order would have made this feel more like a story from the original villain's POV. I do find this anime interesting, but this season, the story has been quite weak. The thrill of season 1 is completely absent here. |
FuMomo-kun said: Didn't Sherlock and John meet Irene after John got married and moved out? And Mycroft: John was supposed to meet him way later. I can't understand why they'd change so much of the order of events. Keeping the original order would have made this feel more like a story from the original villain's POV. "A Scandal in Bohemia" (the story where Irene first appears) has been released after "The Sign of the Four". However, The events in "A Scandal in Bohemia" take place before the events in "The Sign of the Four". The same with the stories where Mycroft Holmes first appears. Also, "The Final Problem" (where Holmes meets James Moriarty for the first time) takes place after "The Sign of the Four". They didn't change the order much except for James Moriarty first appearance. But then again, It's an original anime that revolves around James Moriarty instead of Sherlock Holmes, so I don't mind it. |
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tomarwan said: FuMomo-kun said: Didn't Sherlock and John meet Irene after John got married and moved out? And Mycroft: John was supposed to meet him way later. I can't understand why they'd change so much of the order of events. Keeping the original order would have made this feel more like a story from the original villain's POV. "A Scandal in Bohemia" (the story where Irene first appears) has been released after "The Sign of the Four". However, The events in "A Scandal in Bohemia" take place before the events in "The Sign of the Four". The same with the stories where Mycroft Holmes first appears. Also, "The Final Problem" (where Holmes meets James Moriarty for the first time) takes place after "The Sign of the Four". They didn't change the order much except for James Moriarty first appearance. But then again, It's an original anime that revolves around James Moriarty instead of Sherlock Holmes, so I don't mind it. I just looked it up on Wiki and the book itself. So, the date given in the text says "The Sign of the Four" takes place after "The Scandal in Bohemia", but according to the second and third paragraphs of "A Scandal in Bohemia", Watson has moved out and is living with his wife, and working as a doctor again. He meets Sherlock one day on his way back from work, which is when the Irene's story takes place. So, that should mean he's already met Mary before Irene. Unless he had another wife before Mary. This is confusing me! (ไธใไธ;;๏ผ With Mycroft, they changed too much. He is no longer the same character. I really wanted to see Sherlock having conversations similar to "The Greek Interpreter". "The Final Problem", hopefully, is the final arc and not just a single episode. And, I hope Moriarty doesn't pull an "Empty House" just to keep the story longer. |
Judevin said: Sherlock's reaction to John's marriage is the same as Sherlock Holmes movie with Robert Downey Jr. It would be funny going forward if we see Sherlock get more possessive of John like the movie too. Kinda hard. Watson matters to Sherlock but someone else matters more. FuMomo-kun said: ."The Final Problem", hopefully, is the final arc and not just a single episode. And, I hope Moriarty doesn't pull an "Empty House" just to keep the story longer. The Final Problem is not the manga final arc, it continues after a timeskip. Three years like you suspected. Spoilers ahead, don't click if you don't want to be spoiled: |
ThessJun 8, 2021 3:07 AM
Thess said: FuMomo-kun said: ."The Final Problem", hopefully, is the final arc and not just a single episode. And, I hope Moriarty doesn't pull an "Empty House" just to keep the story longer. The Final Problem is not the manga final arc, it continues after a timeskip. Three years like you suspected. Spoilers ahead, don't click if you don't want to be spoiled: I have not read the spoilers, but Moriarty doesn't die? Seriously? It was the thought that we were heading in that direction that had made me enjoy the story. I wanted to see what would drive the Moriarty here to make him want to kill Sherlock so much! Because of the amazing season 1, I want to see where this was heading, but it's starting to feel more and more like an action shounen anime. |
FuMomo-kun said: I have not read the spoilers, but Moriarty doesn't die? Seriously? . If you don't read the spoilers, that's fine. But remember there are three men called "James Moriarty." This is the cover for Chapter 55, the Final Problem, last act. And we're currently on chapter 59, for the timeskip. I don't think the anime will reach the timeskip, not enough episodes. Besides I mentioned this before, but those second OP lyrics, Twisted Hearts, if the first OP - Dying Wish- seemed Wiliam's fatalistic POV about his chosen fate, are obviously Sherlock's POV toward him and wouldn't make sense not to end it in that arc. |
ThessJun 8, 2021 9:50 AM
Thess said: FuMomo-kun said: I have not read the spoilers, but Moriarty doesn't die? Seriously? . If you don't read the spoilers, that's fine. But remember there are three men called "James Moriarty." This is the cover for Chapter 55, the Final Problem, last act. And we're currently on chapter 59, for the timeskip. I don't think the anime will reach the timeskip, not enough episodes. Besides I mentioned this before, but those second OP lyrics, Twisted Hearts, if the first OP - Dying Wish- seemed Wiliam's fatalistic POV about his chosen fate, are obviously Sherlock's POV toward him and wouldn't make sense not to end it in that arc. Oh, if it's the remaining two Moriarties, I'd be fine, I guess. I do know that Sebastian Moran appears only after Moriarty is gone. So, we know he never stops being faithful to Moriarty. It wouldn't be odd if the remaining two brothers still did their Lord of Crime thing. |
 LOL, C'mon Sherlock, there's Miss Hudson if you want to have a life partner, LOL..... So, with the treasure gone and Milverton wants to blackmail Mary, the question now is, does she still have a thing for Watson????? |
| That was a nice adaptation of The Sign Of The Four and it perfectly connected Holmes to Milverton... which means that Milverton has now made an enemy of Moriarty ๐ข๐ฏ๐ฅ Sherlock. If he wasn't screwed before, he definitely is now. I like where this is heading - Sherlock & Moriarty have a common enemy now and one that is pretty formidable. It looks like we headed for a little team up and that would be so freakin' awesome. I could also be really wrong about that though haha |
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| All this time I had my doubts about Mary but I guess she wasn't guilty after all. |
| Holmes reaction to John getting married was priceless LOL. Toby the doggy xD Rip the treasure chest too, that was an massive amount of fucking gold,jewels etc.. Milverton is back again, blackmailing John's future wife. |
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| Finally some more good action of Sherlock |
| Milverton is threatening the Sherlock side as well, so this man did not plan very wisely by uniting Moriarty and Sherlock against him. I look forward to his coming just desserts... |
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| Milverton now trying to ruin engagement too, this guy needs a new hobby. |
| Not the wisest decision by Milverton to not only be involved with the Moriarty crew but now also with the Sherlock Holmes. |
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| I didn't see the end of that one coming. |
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| Someone needs to put Agustus in his place since he's starting to irritate me. like he's such a cunt |
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| Well, Sherlock and Moriarty have the same enemy now, Milverton!!! kekeke |
| Damn, so Milverton was also involved in this case too. So Mary was not interested with the treasure for personal gain but she was blackmailed |
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