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Apr 24, 2021 10:14 AM

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It was cute seeing 86 girls having a fun time together and enjoying themselves and yes, Kurena is cute. That was a really good episode. We saw their conversations from both sides, first 86's and then Lena's side. Lena is quite a gentle and caring person. No one expects her to be that way. Also, that ending with Kirschblute. I don't want to die. Nice way to portray it.
Apr 24, 2021 10:15 AM

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Oof you LN fans need to lighten the hell up.

The river scene seemed a bit fan servicey and all the fun having scenes seemed kinda bland but it was overall a good episode.
Apr 24, 2021 10:17 AM
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Kaie's death feel impactless.
Hopefully next episode we get the spearhead POV.
Apr 24, 2021 10:18 AM

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Hmm, they decided to use Lena PoV to end the episode huh? Also, when I read the LN I thought the battle happen during night, not evening. This reveal is really interesting.

But if I must reveal my honest feeling, this episode would end with better impact if the battle was on Kaie PoV and end with Lena PoV like the LN.
Apr 24, 2021 10:20 AM

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I was getting annoyed by Lena more than reading the book. They really nailed Lena as someone who is very naive.

Kamiyan3991 said:
GoldenDevilGamer said:
Well, the next episode might start the episode with the same scene from the Spearhead's perspective. No need to get riled up when that's still a possibility.

Remind me in a week.
Fucking drop if they don't have the fucking guts to show these sweet EDGY scenes, I swear to God.

Jesus Christ. They just did both sides of the story at the night conversation. Why do you think they won't keep doing the same thing later? The adaptation is incredibly slow and has 2 cours. There is no way they won't animate the battle.

Apr 24, 2021 10:27 AM
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Takao_Bl00driver said:
Kaie's death feel impactless.
Hopefully next episode we get the spearhead POV.


agreed. The pacing has been great even though the novel moves slower than this. But we get like one good moment with Kaie and shes already dead.
Apr 24, 2021 10:33 AM

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I didn't think A-1 would flash forward to the marsh scene that quick.

04:50 Realizing she’d been baited, Kurena cried out in frustration. “Ah, there’s the Kurena pout!”

05:39 Saori Hayami's voice totally goes with Anju's expressions. Time for some punishment, Daiya.

07:41 Note: In the official translation of vol. 1, Kurena's line is “Why do they keep talking to her?” She's disgusted at Spearhead Squadron as a whole talking to Lena every night, not just Shin.

10:17 and 15:27 The book that Shin is reading is All Quiet on the Western Front by Erich Maria Remarque. The retreading of dialogue from two different perspectives really gives the sense of distance between the Spearhead Squadron and Lena.

12:29 Remember to wear masks like Annette and Lena do!

The events and dialogue all culminate in the ending; it was Kaie, who was nice to Lena, that died.

Lena asked what the cat's name was but not the real names of the humans.

I hope we'll see this from the Spearhead Squadron's perspective next week.
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Apr 24, 2021 10:34 AM

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Takao_Bl00driver said:
Kaie's death feel impactless.
Hopefully next episode we get the spearhead POV.

The audience are basically given the same view Lena has. I do think we should've gotten Spearhead Squadron's perspective first though (not counting the flashforward, just in relation the placement of Lena's perspective).

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Apr 24, 2021 10:35 AM

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Ahem_

LN fans need to shut up ,

Thank you !
Apr 24, 2021 10:36 AM
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Kurena's denials are so cute. Kudo's for the girls protective measures though especially Anju's. Given what happened in the past that caused them to be conscripted as soldiers its no wonder they hate Lena and the world that she represents so much. Still Kurena's lost of her parents to them was especially sad given that it sounded less of an accident more deliberate murder. The talk between Lena and 86 though was pretty interesting and showed well how different their worlds are. Lena's motivation for treating the members of 86 nicely though is nice. Shame that within the republic there are few that remember what kindness, fairness and equality is. The virgin reaction was hillarious. The battle this time proved to be an interesting affair as we got to see it from Lena's viewpoint. Unfortunately while victorious looks like they suffered their second loss. Overall an excellent ep that served to expand upon the members of 86 via the intro of Kurena and the painful past that she had. Its unfortunate that all Lena's hard work was undone in the blink of an eye. While the hatred among the 86 isn't universal the fact that it had nine whole years to gather on top of millions of lost lives means that Lena has one hell of a upward struggle if she wants to bond with them. That last part though sure was featured some heavy stuff for Lena though.
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Apr 24, 2021 10:37 AM
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Oof you LN fans need to lighten the hell up.

The river scene seemed a bit fan servicey and all the fun having scenes seemed kinda bland but it was overall a good episode.

A bit maybe but that was extremely minimal lol. No bouncing boobs everywhere and girls in Bikinis so I wouldn't necessarily refer to it as fan servicey
Apr 24, 2021 10:38 AM
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Takao_Bl00driver said:
Kaie's death feel impactless.
Hopefully next episode we get the spearhead POV.

Yeah I think they will show that. Wish they had shown the spearhead POV first tbh
Apr 24, 2021 10:38 AM

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Oh, Kurena is very cute when they talk to her about Shin haha
A little comedy, I have a feeling half of them are going to die 0.0
I like that they show both sides of the conversation

Kaie's "I don't want to die", god it hurts me (╥﹏╥)
Apr 24, 2021 10:46 AM

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What a relaxing, dramatic, and very sad episode. There were a lot of feelings mixing together in this episode from the start till the end. It like when you riding a rollercoaster to the top of the track then suddenly dropdown.

RIP Kaie... 😭😭😭
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Apr 24, 2021 10:51 AM
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Amazing episode. Loved if from the beginning to its last seconds.
Let's hope they show the spearhead PoV next week. I am not that mad that they showed it from Lena's perspective first. I think how Kaie's death affect Lena is more important than her death itself storyvise. Also the last sentence: "You've never even asked us for our real names!" was so harsh and true that you could see how it basically shattered Lena's soul into pieces. Great line!
Apr 24, 2021 10:54 AM

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Blame me for reading the few translated manga chapters that doesn't do the LN justice, but this episode definitely has scenes from the manga, especially the girls' short fun time (though it instantly felt like fanservice).

The "White Supremacy" issue that plagues the 86ers, Lena's clearly got the communication down and smoothened relations. But with an episode title like that, it's clear that happy times like these aren't gonna happen for long. Giving both sides of the POV from the 86ers to Lena herself provides some depth into the story, since this will be a slow burn.

What is a Mission Complete when Kaie's death feels so aimless, and the 86ers pretty much just act like they're supposed to do against their Handlers, with Lena taking the blame. No one wants to die, yet they're being forced to, that's dirty politics and warfare for you.
Apr 24, 2021 10:57 AM

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Super close to having a more peaceful episode, but then that ending. Oof. Fucking oof.
Apr 24, 2021 11:02 AM

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Isn't Lena a "veteran" already? Why she got shocked with the rant? If she was giving anti-government speech already. And the day before( who was almost the whole episode), she had a conversation to reflect before going to bed. Who was basically a foreshadowing.


I hope this isn't the reason the Handlers get PTSD, and abandon the unit, because of piece of mind.
Apr 24, 2021 11:02 AM
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Damn, so are these guys just gonna die out one by one each episode? It feels like a “who’s it gonna be” formula until it’s just shin left. At this point they’ve tried to make you feel attached to them, but still the deaths don’t hit hard at all. Maybe it just needs more time for us newcomers to care more, or maybe we will get their pov next episode.

So it was the black haired chick who died this time. Dude who gave the rant probably had feelings for her


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Apr 24, 2021 11:04 AM
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RIP Kaie, so i guess ye they gonna die one by one huh welp

Lena is too pure moralist for sure she is gonna break
Apr 24, 2021 11:05 AM

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Great episode. They adapt it flawlessly and that after credit scene with that BGM giving me some tension. And the transition is like roller coaster of emotions.
And thumbs up for Theo and Lena VA for their performance this episode.

The first half is nice too, it establish some character interaction and their quirks. The animation and background is good this episode


Apr 24, 2021 11:07 AM

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wow, simply great, last minutes was the best part.
i also really like how they show us from both sides
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Apr 24, 2021 11:17 AM

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Well, this episode got dark real quick after the fun, happy atmosphere disappeared. It’s quite difficult to understand the pain of the 86. Even if you feel sorry for them which Mirize did. She doesn’t know what it’s like to fight everyday, to live poorly, to be rejected from society. Mirize lives a pretty lavish life and to the 86, she is only putting up an act.
Apr 24, 2021 11:28 AM

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F's in the chat for Kaie. Yeah I mean calling every night is nice and all but it's really just fluff. Ppl still be out there dying so maybe you should at least acknowledge how fucked up it is. Then they might start to see you differently.
Apr 24, 2021 11:28 AM

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The ending gave my bones a shiver. The ost was spot on. The convo after the ED was really stressful for her. Almost broke her..


“You yourself have to change first, or nothing will change for you!”
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Apr 24, 2021 11:28 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yobai

i learned something new today, so thats how they find romantic partners in the past eh
Apr 24, 2021 11:30 AM

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Great episode once again,Theo Lena conversation was as impactful as in the novel,

Also RIP Kaie.The story is now getting intense.






Apr 24, 2021 11:36 AM

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what a "peaceful" episode


Apr 24, 2021 11:40 AM
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This is a d*mn good episode.

Opening with Kirschblute's destruction and then revealing who it was in such an otherwise low key moment was great. Kaie loosing old maid was a solid choice. They also did a good job not limiting the character development to her, helping to mitigate the "sudden characterization = death" trope.

The constant reminders that life happens, even on the battlefield, but that doesn't mean you can ever truly relax. The way the girls all immediately pulled their guns when they were surprised and how they talk about death offhandedly, half jokingly saying that they could die tomorrow. But they also tease Kurena, joke around, and generally enjoy each other's company. The way the tone of this show swings constantly back and forth reminds me of the way 1917 built and released tension in such a way that you couldn't quite relax, even when things seemed ok.

Theo's rant was excellent, and Lena needed to hear it. These characters are so human; it's really masterful.
Apr 24, 2021 11:44 AM

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I was about to drop it then this episode happened.
Apr 24, 2021 11:48 AM
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Just pEin..ahead..
Luks lyk vr in fr a ride ..༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
And that last 5 mins were just magic..
Apr 24, 2021 11:49 AM
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Bruh that ending! The way it transitioned to the ending credits gave me goosebumps. And the conversation after that was so damn real that I felt it and it hit hard.

Kirshblute/5
Apr 24, 2021 11:57 AM

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First actual good episode so far. That end speech was phenomenal, even if it feels like white guilt-tripping as hell
Apr 24, 2021 11:59 AM
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I was glad to see 86 having fun, and Kurena is kinda cute.

I kinda like the communication between Lena and 86, they even talk about cats, but sadly Lena can only help them through the monitor ...

Is Kirschblute dead?


Yes, she's dead. The Lowe basically obliterated her after she got stuck in the swamp. Also you see how on Luna's monitor that Kirschblute's status goes from "Kirschblute" to "Destroyed" right before the ED
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Apr 24, 2021 12:00 PM

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The post-credits scene was amazing, his words hit really hard. Mirize will have to question her ideals soon. The music at that was absolutely beautiful.
Apr 24, 2021 12:02 PM
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I knew this was going to happen since I read the LN, but ffs I only just realized how much of a difference it is reading about what happens to Kaie and then seeing it animated. The moment I heard Luna shout for Kaie to stop and the Kaie wimpering "I don't want to die," I got goosebumps all over and the hair on my neck just shot up. I was literally crying on the inside, telling Kaie to get the f*ck away from there even though I knew she was dead.
Apr 24, 2021 12:05 PM

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Man, the Sawano drop is enough to watch this anime. Also, the after credits was really great.
Apr 24, 2021 12:07 PM

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I liked the soviet posters on the walls of the 86 base. Even the cyrillic can be read there.
Apr 24, 2021 12:12 PM

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hell yes... i smell something like aldnoah... smells good brahawh... the ED music transition before the end of episode remind me about A/Z aLIEz.
Apr 24, 2021 12:12 PM

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That's a pretty depressing life they lead there, knowing they could die the next day but can't do anything abkut it.
Apr 24, 2021 12:22 PM
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Ending scene hit hard. Everything was perfect from the voice acting to the animation hell my eyes even got a little watery watching that and I ain’t that much of an emotional person
Apr 24, 2021 12:23 PM

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Besides A1 knocking this adaptation out of the park so far, I'm curious to see how they plan on handling the rest of the season. With the current pacing, I think they can easily clear 6 episodes for this volume (which makes sense as this is arguably the best of the lot).

I'm all for only adapting 4 volumes for both seasons, an actual possibility if they maintain this pace and it does set itself up for a nice sequel bait. The rational part of me thinks 6 volumes is the play, but will there actually be enough episodes to give it the breathing room it needs like volume 1 is getting?

Anyway that's just my pointless rant. Enjoy this ride while it lasts. Waiting for the other shoe to drop as there's no way A1 can maintain this level of quality, but I'm all for being pleasantly surprised.
Apr 24, 2021 12:23 PM
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Isn't Lena a "veteran" already? Why she got shocked with the rant? If she was giving anti-government speech already. And the day before( who was almost the whole episode), she had a conversation to reflect before going to bed. Who was basically a foreshadowing.


I hope this isn't the reason the Handlers get PTSD, and abandon the unit, because of piece of mind.


That is not the reason the handler get crazy, it's something darker.
Apr 24, 2021 12:26 PM

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This episode was fucking cruel. The first half was showing the 86 squadron playing and goofing around when they're not doing any missions, which is something real life soldiers actually do as well (anyone saying otherwise are basically living under a rock). But you can see the subtle ways where they were pulling the flags out here and there, so even if the 2nd half's turnout was predictable, it was still very well executed and not something cheapened to child's play like many other sci fi shows I've watched out there. This gradual tonal shift was nicely done, imho.

Just the atmosphere of hearing Lena trying in vain to call out to stop the inevitable death of Kaie, the small explosion noise, the static cutting, and then just the uncomfortable silence in the command room while the ED theme is playing. The scene with Theo lashing out at a shocked Lena was rough, too, but he was speaking the truth. She was subconsciously playing in part of the discrimination, and it's not like she's a bad person, she's just initially naive because she's grown up in a comfortable position for most of her life up until this point (sans her early childhood as she mentioned earlier). We IRL are also subjected to this similar situation that Lena is made aware of, whether we want to admit it or not, and it sucks, because most of us just simply don't have the power to change things by ourselves individually. That's the ugly side of sociopolitics and society in general.
I don't blame Theo for lashing out, either. They just lost another comrade....no, a family member to the cruelty of battle. To have to hear Lena, part of the societal group they hate so much, tried to give condolences was just not something they wanna hear, and one of them just lost his temper.
Just a lot of oooof in this episode...
Apr 24, 2021 12:34 PM

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I’m starting to get used to the structure of the episodes now, which makes them more enjoyable. It’s reasonable that one of the 86 lashed out at Lena after one of their members died despite her doing her best to treat them as human beings. The fact that she never asked for their names before is a huge oversight on her part and makes her come across as a hypocrite.
Apr 24, 2021 1:02 PM

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Very well done episode. The interactions are nicely presented.




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Apr 24, 2021 1:15 PM

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From the first 20 seconds of the episode you already knew someone was going to die. It was nice to see the 86 just having a regular relaxing day, and I liked how we got that conversation they were having with Lena from their perspective, and then again from Lena's. That's something that I like about this show in general, repeating scenes from different perspectives. I'm sure the tragedy at the end, as others have already mentioned, will be repeated again from the 86's/Kirschblute's perspective next episode (the beginning of this episode already kind of teased that), which will be quite sad to watch (even if I never really got attached to her before her death).
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Apr 24, 2021 1:22 PM

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- Boring characterisation is boring.
- Edglord "You are such are hypocrite!" monologue is boring.
- Poorly conceived attempt at mood whiplash is boring.

Come on you guys I am here for the action, give me some more!
Apr 24, 2021 1:24 PM
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I think Lena is being too positive for her own good. A possible trap many of the other handlers have gotten themselves into, and thus drop out.

RIP Kirschblute - even if the title card kinda gives it away. It was sweet to see her perspective on the 86ers and Alba, and how her views aligned and contrasted to Lena's. Similar to what I aforementioned in the above paragraph, I agree with Kirschblute's views on Lena as a virgin, who sees the world "like a young girl who thinks the whole world is made of flowers".

Kirschblute spoke too soon when she said "You should get someone else to take your place before you regret it" though =/

Theo in the post-credits had no filter towards Lena. Even if I don't like the way he went about it, I can empathise with and understand why he acted that way. Lena needed to hear that. Kirschblute took the soft approach towards Lena, and that obviously didn't go according to plan.
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Apr 24, 2021 1:29 PM

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I was waiting for this to happen, I was waiting for someone to snap at her. From the perspective of the Spearhead Squadron, they were just humoring Lena. They saw her attempts at treating them differently and trying to get to know them as pointless, but they didn't say anything until one of them died. Even if what she believes in is truly what she thinks, even if she's not telling lies, she's still not fighting on the battlefield, not experiencing what they have to experience, and most importantly, not losing comrades. And she needed to know that. I really liked that ending scene.

Although Shin seems to be very cold and stoic, I think he understands his comrades the most. I really liked that scene where he freed the seat next to him and he patted on the coach for Kurena to go sit next to him. That act felt kind of apologetic to me, but more than anything showed his caring side. I love how these scenes are being handled.

Overall good episode. Always looking forward to more.
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