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| A relaxed, info-based episode today... found myself yawning a couple of times; was kinda hoping for a new OP and ED considering that this is the second four after last week's hiatus. Really wanna see the action, 'cause the swordfights are really good so... |
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Shingster said: Lelouch0202 said: I guess it was a decent episode, kinda felt it was weaker than all the previous episodes. Probably cause of the long info dump that while good just wasn't as interesting as even say the previous episode. I was a little confused by one of the opening scenes, from my impression of the previous episode, it seemed like Cardinal had existed since the beginning but this episode seems to portray her being made from the Administrator. Did Ufotable work on this episode? The CG in the little skirmish in the beginning between Cardinal and Administrator felt very reminiscent of something I would see in a Ufo show. The upcoming episodes are gonna be good. Cardinal's human form manifested when the administrator tried to overwrite that girl. Before that you are right in that Cardinal did exist but without human form. You can say that admin's actions did inadvertently allow cardinal to gain a new form. Ah, that makes sense. Thanks. :) |
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| Ayy I can already feel the doujins being made, the whole convo was ripped straight from hentai "I feel the warmth" " Im curious how this will progress, everyone was constantly talking about how much better alicization is. I mean we still have 1 /4th left, but its like the episode before the final (arc) They have a goal now and climbing the tower should be a pretty straight forward business. I do think the setting is even more of an asspull than the previous ones though. Also, admin sama can apparently erase the memory and souls of people. Can she do the same to humans? Is kirito the only human right now? This would have been my first question, if she wants to erase everyone, what about real humans? And what about the dark territory, she mentions the dragons are strong enough to be significant.. yet they were quite easily slain.. and they could always just create more knights, right? just copy paste them if you have to. Feels incredibly weak- I hope this is just the character not knowing everything and not whats actually going on Overall I liked it so far, but I cant bring myself to care about the NPCs. The first arc is still better for me. @Turtles_Hunter dont worry you missed nothing. Pure info dump. no special visuals |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| The fight at the beginning looks awsome, those animations tho. The rest of the episode was a bit... boring |
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| That was some Cardinal's backstory, from here on it the Duo's mission to get back their swords. |
| Another info-dump episode, but it looks like things will pick up next episode. Also, I was hoping for the new OP and ED this week, but I guess that's gonna come next week. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| Another good info episode and also buildup for next episode! We see more about Cardinal backstory, Cardinal fight against Quinela was well animated, we also learn about what Cardinal wanted to do and how they could save Alice, and why they weren't able to recover Eldrie memories. They now have the "mission" to recover their swords. Looking foward next episode! |
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| So basically Ep. 12 and 13 is about 45 minutes of lore and shit with this discussion right? You all should be happy that you got to watch it because it was about 200 pages in the LN. Like holy fuck. Anyways, with it being animated, you got Jeanne vs Nero...I mean...um yeah Administrator vs Cardinal was cool. Now for the mortal combat. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| Greqt episode, info dump and fight between Cardinal vs Quinella. I like that they continue the backstory and the objective like last episode. Nice to see that its going smoothly, next episode is hype. |
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| I love how people here are complaining about the ~info dump~ but also would complain if the world, antagonist and concepts weren't explained and just ignored. |
| I think its normal to be bored by info dump eps, but you need to understand that its part of the story of this arc. So a little eps of info dump is necessary. |
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| As someone who likes infodumps, I find the motivation to go against the administrator very weak. Why Kirito wants to follow a path that may lead into a genocide-like event that would make Asuna cry in a corner and probably jeopardizing years of research? |
Chrome_Falcon said: They didn't really skip over it though? They just did quick flashes of the people he'll save. We don't need to know why he's chose them. I have mixed feelings towards this episode. Cardinal vs Quinella was animated well so that is good. But everything else that made reading this part great was rushed. They skipped Kirito pondering over how can he decide which 10 people he should save when all the people are under the same threat of death. |
| This felt really short. I can't believe I am saying this about SAO. Too many terminologies that they're hard to remember. I usually try to remember the Japanese word so that I don't need to depend too much on the subtitles, but I am not being able to catch the words here. I love that they actually animated Kirito and Eugeo walking. A lot of anime, I have seen recently, just use a motion tween. I also like that their walks weren't synchronised as it would look unnatural and awkward. This reminded me of Game of Thrones a little bit. While people are fighting against one another, a bigger enemy is getting ready to attack them. lol. (Hope they don't use this as an excuse to add the administrator into a harem.) I just noticed that Eugeo's hair is rounder than Kirito's and his cheeks have more baby fat than Kirito's. It's no wonder I found him so cute! |
| More infodump, which is good because we'll see many action fight after this. I hope we'll see shikai and bankai from the Captains...I mean Integrity Knights. |
UtopiaBeyond said: Chrome_Falcon said: They didn't really skip over it though? They just did quick flashes of the people he'll save. We don't need to know why he's chose them. I have mixed feelings towards this episode. Cardinal vs Quinella was animated well so that is good. But everything else that made reading this part great was rushed. They skipped Kirito pondering over how can he decide which 10 people he should save when all the people are under the same threat of death. This is not a spoiler because they skipped it, but to quote from LN - It would have taken just 30 seconds to include this monologue. You can see how much it improves the character of Kirito. |
| Aniplex is so bad at subbing. Bunny Girl had grammar issues every week. Every few weeks they had a translation issue. SAO has been pretty good so far, but this episode they messed up hilariously.Subs are the same on Hulu as they are on CR so it's definitely Aniplex themselves at fault. Here's the lines I'm referring to Cardinal: How long do you plan on standing there in a daze? Kirito: No way The first sentence is the one that was mistranslated from what I heard. It should've been more like: "Do you plan to stand there forever?" Basically, "no way" doesn't work grammatically when used in response to "How long". Really bothered me, obviously. As a whole, episode was pretty solid but also felt really long lol. |
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| "For the first half lets let this girl explain everything to kirito and after that, lets spend the second half explaining it to the other irrelevant guy while also info dumping more useless shit that they could have talked about while talking to kirito but fuck that, there is only 1 main character after all!" I've long ago accepted sao's bad writing and characters but shit like this pisses me off. Instead of wasting time on garbage like this you could have shown the arc you skipped, (idk what was skipped i simply heard an arc was skipped). I enjoyed the fairy trash more than this. |
| "Her soul's capacity for preserving her memories had reached its limit." Quinella's gonna need an external Hard Drive...and that she does by implementing her memories into another, and thus Cardinal was born... System Call this, System Call that...man if Kirito comes up with Macros for all of those commands he'd dominate... Charlotte! She's gonna die, isn't she... Cardinal gonna make some backup data for Kirito.10 people...so Eugeo, Alice, the two girls back at the academy, that one guy who challenged Kirito back at the academy, Cardinal...That's 6...so we're probably going to meet 4 more on the way. Maybe Quinella might be one of them... Cardinal Social Link Established! 100 floors...ehe...ehehehe...Here we go again! |
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| Alright you guys need to stop defending this. Throwing exposition or explanations like mad for more than half of the series is plain bad writing. Plus, this is an optical acoustical medium and it does not deliever the way it's supposed to be. If I wanted to read words (or subtitles) explaining everything that's happening I would have read the novel that does exactly that. |
h1soka said: not a bad writing its differ to person who personally doesnt like SAO. And its important bcuz along the way you feel that it doenst make sense. So this eps provide some info, but some cut bcuz imo is the time constraints. If you judge it early then its okay.Alright you guys need to stop defending this. Throwing exposition or explanations like mad for more than half of the series is plain bad writing. Plus, this is an optical acoustical medium and it does not deliever the way it's supposed to be. If I wanted to read words (or subtitles) explaining everything that's happening I would have read the novel that does exactly that. |
chriskor022Jan 5, 2019 9:57 PM
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Hamakami said: your example is from manga perspective. In novel its explain detailed, but omitted in anime. And its true that this the best arc of SAO. so its not worse its getting better.Dannny said: "For the first half lets let this girl explain everything to kirito and after that, lets spend the second half explaining it to the other irrelevant guy while also info dumping more useless shit that they could have talked about while talking to kirito but fuck that, there is only 1 main character after all!" I've long ago accepted sao's bad writing and characters but shit like this pisses me off. Instead of wasting time on garbage like this you could have shown the arc you skipped, (idk what was skipped i simply heard an arc was skipped). I enjoyed the fairy trash more than this. SAO defenders are framing criticism to info dumps as not understanding world building. You can have world building without people standing around explaining pages and pages of arbitrary concepts that might explain why a singular event happens later. Look at HunterXHunter(to use your avatar) - Magic system and world building all came about by watching antagonists and protagonists interact with that world and reveal the differences to our own through cause and effect. Not sit in a library, cafe, tavern, hallway, command center, open field, for 10's of minutes on end and just narrate with lip flaps. It's really bad story structure and writing and it's frustrating that many in these threads make excuses for it. "Just wait guys, it gets better! This is needed to setup what happens later". Fune wo Amu had more compelling story telling and that was about making a dictionary. This is just "infodump" the anime. And it is getting worse, not better. |
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| hopefully a 100floors dungeon that will be climbed till the top, not like season 1 SAO |
| kinda boring episode this time, hopefully more action will come from now on |
| Can they like stop talking? |
| boring episode, but much needed story telling that the previous seasons lacked. didnt mind it, but these cliffhangers are killing me lmao looks like kirito got himself into another world saving scenario, his sword is so cool, and i think better than the blue rose one that eugio has. the last scene gave me some goosebumps, since it looks like we're going into the meat of the content next week, which is exciting and to all the haters, keep hating, cause the anime is here to stay |
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| It was a decent episode imo, now I can't wait for the next one, I'm pretty sure the real fun now begins, it's gonna be great |
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| Yeah, this cuople of episodes was boring for someone and i agree with it, they are not needed here. |
| Kirito's face when he hears that the cathedral has 100 floors.... Priceless!! XD Animation of the fight between Quinella and Cardinal was sweet, good start of the second cour. Eventho it was quite the info-dump this episode, it made me understand quite a few things. So hyped! |
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| Tower climbing intensifies! Kirito is having that Aincrad's flashback. Wonder if they are gonna skip floors this time too. The info dump is necessary to understand Underworld's history. It was even longer in the novel. Honestly, you can't please everyyone. There are those that are mad that they skip some of info and those that think it's too long. Just shut up and keep watching. If you want an anime with only fighting and action, SAO is not it. |
Kaiser-chanJan 6, 2019 5:00 AM
| The exposition dump is pretty weak writing (albeit very necessary to understand what the hell is going on), but thinking about it in relation to Rath's goals is more interesting: ironically, Kirito's good intentions will only have bad consequences if he stops the destruction of the world and lets any Fluctlights survive, whereas Cardinal's intent to destroy the world is entirely necessary to stop Rath's plan. |
| It was a sweet moment for Cardinal to ask Kirito for a hug, something so simple to ask for after being inside the Great Library for 200 years. Bless her. =) Like with the last episode, the info-dumping continues with the understanding of how Cardinal was able to clash with Quinella, which gave us some nice fighting animation. Cardinal wasn't able to beat her with her currant state, so she was able to escape to the Great Library and has been there since. Her plan for the whole world if she does beat Quinella and takes over as the new administrator does sound interesting, although I don't blame Kirito for being so optimistic in thinking of another way to avoid resetting the whole place in order to restore normalcy. Either way, the info dumping is over and Kirito and Eugeo are ready to go get their weapons back. With Cardinal on their side, re-obtaining their weapons shouldn't be too difficult, I hope. |
| An info-dump episode. It was alright. Looking forward to next week's episode. |
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| It really has to mention some spoilers for people to realize that a lot of information from this episode is important for the future of alicization? |
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| finally, Kirito got a way to save Alice. |
| filler time and with a decent girl wanted a hug... hmmm |
| When I'm reading the comments here (boring, "zzz zzz", try to no sleep challenge, filler, "no action = bad", infodump etc) I'm starting to understand why SAO fans are hated everywhere. Great episode btw. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
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