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Apr 29, 2008 11:47 AM
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Okay, this is getting much more interesting than I expected after watching episode 1. This episode was better, I didn't expect an episode about such 'serious' things. Definitely going to keep watching.

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Apr 29, 2008 1:36 PM
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Yeah, I really was not expecting something like that either xD

This series seems really interesting, and I definitely wanna find out more.




Apr 29, 2008 2:01 PM
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If the first episode had mystery and suspense, this had a disturbing vibe in spades. I guess it's a testament to the writing when I'm still mulling over the implications made more than an hour after I watched it. 00;

Does anyone else think that Kaiba's little companion is Neiro? The episode before we caught a glimpse of those squid things being held in the same room as she was and then there was a close up at the end showing that one of them was gone.

Apr 29, 2008 2:14 PM
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Getting more and more interesting. Nice attention switch to more adult themes.

...and some unexpected 'fanservice' too ^_^



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Apr 29, 2008 2:23 PM
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this show might very well captured my #1 slot for the new season if it can keep up this level of brilliant storytelling



Apr 29, 2008 2:26 PM
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Definitely getting more interesting as it goes along. That's a new type of kinky... making copies of yourself o.O

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Does anyone else think that Kaiba's little companion is Neiro? The episode before we caught a glimpse of those squid things being held in the same room as she was and then there was a close up at the end showing that one of them was gone.


Interesting theory. Looking back at episode 1 it does look like that may be the case. But then there's that report about a memory tank explosion. It was attributed to Neiro with a statement from her organization but if she's in that flying thing, then who's pulling the strings? If the flying thing really was her it makes me wonder if her real body was taken and being used by someone else, kind of like how Kaiba's was hijacked by that lady in this ep.

Should be interesting to see what Kaiba will do next. He left his body behind when he escaped in that pod. Will he be able to reclaim it?
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Apr 29, 2008 4:57 PM
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She headbutting her tits made me laugh, Butter was a pimp, getting to be really interesting.


Apr 29, 2008 9:00 PM
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Kaiba is amazing.

This is probably moving towards being my number one as well. Though Kurenai is still fantastic. hmm..

some good stuff this season :D
Apr 29, 2008 9:38 PM
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I've been trying to find a full version of the opening song "Never" by Kagami Seira, but so far no luck. It's such a beautiful song despite it sounding a bit Engrishy on some words.



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8GaugeBrett said:
I've been trying to find a full version of the opening song "Never" by Kagami Seira, but so far no luck. It's such a beautiful song despite it sounding a bit Engrishy on some words.


We're still looking into that. In the mean time I ripped the OP and ED from the anime into .mp3 format and have been listening to that for the past few days.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
Apr 29, 2008 11:34 PM

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ForlornHope said:
Does anyone else think that Kaiba's little companion is Neiro? The episode before we caught a glimpse of those squid things being held in the same room as she was and then there was a close up at the end showing that one of them was gone.


I'm thinking it's either Neiro or Popo, though I'm also wondering if Popo is Neiro, but I think it's also possible that our main character is Neiro. The broadcast about the memory tank explosion only mentioned a statement being made by Neiro's organization, so there's no telling how far in advance things were planned or whether the statement was just made by one of Neiro's subordinates.

I'm also wondering if the bird might be Neiro. This episode showed us that it is possible to load yourself onto multiple chips, so there's no telling how many of a certain person there is. It may also be possible to only load particular isolated memories to a chip as well.

I'm really looking forward to the next episode and this show is hands down my favorite of the season.
Apr 30, 2008 12:27 AM
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Argh why didn't he try to get his body back? Why did he do almost nothing? He just sat back and watched things fall apart.

He better start being a better protagonist.

Anyways, fucking brilliant episode 10/10. Nothing is quite as it seems.

Apr 30, 2008 3:54 AM

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I enjoyed the first episode more. I don't know why though, maybe I'm just in a bad mood.
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Apr 30, 2008 6:33 AM

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oh quite nice episode I have to say.
Far less weird and abstrusely and getting pretty interesting.
Apr 30, 2008 2:54 PM

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cetuskun said:
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Argh why didn't he try to get his body back? Why did he do almost nothing? He just sat back and watched things fall apart.

He better start being a better protagonist.

Anyways, fucking brilliant episode 10/10. Nothing is quite as it seems.


Didn't it say at the very beginning that he didn't have any of his memories?
Though that doesn't explain why he left his body there...
Apr 30, 2008 5:30 PM
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Oh, I misinterpreted one of the subs. I thought he lost his memories again when he transfered to a new body from the intro explanation at the beginning. Guess being in school from 10:40 AM to 6:25 PM on Mondays and Wednesdays is taking its toll on me. The real reason probably is just that he was getting pulled away by the little flying thing and didn't have the time.


I suppose it DOES make for a good dramatic storyline.

Apr 30, 2008 7:48 PM

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I liked this episode a lot better than the first, this series is definitely turning out to be something really interesting
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Apr 30, 2008 8:35 PM

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haha, that was awesome. having fun with yourself with 2 bodies xD

Apr 30, 2008 9:07 PM

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This anime is real good. Really, nothing much to say about it, it grabs your attention and even threw in some serious undertones.
May 2, 2008 5:11 AM

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And people thought this would be a kiddy show...

What can i say, freiken awesome. Best show of the season, with Kure-nai just below it.
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May 3, 2008 9:56 AM

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Just finished watching episode two...spent most of it trying to work out what was going on, and suspecting I probably knew! But that was a pretty good episode.
May 3, 2008 10:55 AM

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This episode definitely won me over on this series... It's turning into a show that really forces you to pay attention and think. And the setting is amazing, I'm a sucker for bizarre dystopian futures!

oh, these little earthquakes
May 10, 2008 4:34 PM

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woah weird sex. A babe magnet who is fugly. And a very weird but cleverly written story. This is hot.
May 12, 2008 1:28 PM
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'Organs have failed". HAHAHAHAHA.

Still very good, one of the best series of this season (but Kurenai is definitely the best anime so far ;)).


Hmmm I think you misunderstood something about Kurenai to say that AnimusNathan. If you consider the show from a "normal" point of view and not an "otaku" point of view, you'll realize how great it is, and all the references and subtlety behind this title (forget about lolis, harem or other misconceptions like that, this show is not made for this purpose anyway). Everything is perfect in Kurenai, honestly, from character relationships to music, atmosphere, script and even the technical side, there's not even a weak point. It's far above anything made in 2008 (even Shigofumi).
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'Organs have failed". HAHAHAHAHA.

Still very good, one of the best series of this season (but Kurenai is definitely the best anime so far ;)).


Kurenai looks good, but it's just harem/loli fanservice.

May 14, 2008 4:33 AM

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I hate school assignments. It's preventing me from watching Kaiba.

Finally watched the second episode. The world of Kaiba is amazing and quite disturbing at the same time. The visuals and sound was great as usual. I'm left intrigued after watching the events unfold; still trying to completely understand everything that actually happened. The thing that stands out the most so far though is the amount of mature themes displayed in just these first two episodes.

Kaiba is definitely the best anime this season. As for Kurenai, I can't really compare it, since I haven't started it.
May 14, 2008 2:20 PM
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Selfcest-gone-wrong?

This is all kinds of delicious!
May 15, 2008 1:42 PM

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Whoa, this episode was great! Things seem to be getting really interesting.
I just wonder why Kaiba didn't try to get his body back.
May 21, 2008 1:28 AM

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This is starting to grow on me more and more. And the OP is one of my favorites this season.
Jul 28, 2008 4:27 PM

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Its like diluting William Gibson into the anime-blender circa 1960, lol. 2 episodes in, this is more cyberpunk than mediocrity like Ergo Proxy and Appleseed with their endless exposition.

Immerse the viewer in a future world but dont talk down to them. Kaiba gets it right.
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Jan 11, 2009 7:15 AM

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I didn't exactly KNOW this was R+ and when the whole "Ur so deep inside me" scene kinda made me flip out TuT; but only because my mom was behind me and I wasn't sure what was going on

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Hummm... I kinda feel like an outsider in the room.

I dun know people, either I'm plain stupid or i just didn't get what the fuck was happening. AT ALL.

I am so confused T_T
Jan 16, 2010 11:16 AM

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very disturbing. And a bit confusing. It took me a while to figure out that Kaiba's body has been hijacked...I think that's because I might have skipped some parts cuz I wasn't alone in the room :P and I also didn't understand why butters Gf left behind those golden petals which I think are memories of the dead but no one else did. The sheriff said she hadn't converted fully or something...what does that mean, that she was a minor? or her body was fresh :S .
I found the first ep to be better. The whole memories-in-a-cone concept with the crazy artwork really threw me off. The two chase scenes and the part where the community is trying out memories to find their people - it was so good, and so funny.
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"...our faces marked by toil, by deceptions, by success, by love; our weary eyes looking still, looking always, looking anxiously for something out of life, that while it is expected is already gone – has passed unseen, in a sigh, in a flash – together with the youth, with the strength, with the romance of illusions.” - Joseph Conrad ('Youth')
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Damn, that was... weird. This show has a lot explaining to do.
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is the action taking place inside a autistic person's head?:)
what's with the brain map xD

4/5
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eyerok said:
.... I also didn't understand why butters Gf left behind those golden petals which I think are memories of the dead but no one else did. The sheriff said she hadn't converted fully or something...what does that mean, that she was a minor? or her body was fresh :S .


I thought the golden petals was memories as well, but what you wrote made me unsure. Thought it looked like what was coming out of the industrial building where memories was leaking out into space. But memories are stored in cones :P I can't make any sence out of this.
I wonder too what they ment by "hadn't converted"...
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This whole episode had my jaw wide open, not because it was interesting but really confusing for me at some parts....

Later half had me confused the most.

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This episode definitely won me over on this series... It's turning into a show that really forces you to pay attention and think. And the setting is amazing, I'm a sucker for bizarre dystopian futures!
This!
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I don't know what I'm watching here, but I know it's something special.
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Great episode. The plot is really interesting. Memories can be copied to another body and thus double-loading. Awesome.

The things that left me confused are the woman's memory (Daddy-daughter) and "not yet converted" scene.

Also, why did she go explode?? O_o

I have to watch it 2 times to grasp most of the parts. Damn, I must be more attentive to every scene coz this is a serious business.
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This episode was different than the first. More explanations and the comedy/ero fragments overflowed it. I think it was more interesting than the first one. Still a mystery, that world :O
Dec 26, 2012 9:18 PM

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Watching this episode after the first made me feel like I had missed something in between.
But wow, the feelings when
were disturbing.
I'm a little confused though...
And what was all that stretching business.


Edit - nevermind, he's in the big body. So who's in the flying thing?
Apr 7, 2013 9:47 AM

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Oh Butter, you dog you! :)

Fuck this anime is so cool. This anime is definitely something you have to pay attention to if you even miss one piece of it things can get confusing. My take on it so far is that Kaiba has lost his memories and woke up in some random place. He then get smuggled on to the space ship by that seemingly heroic type of dude to try to escape as bad peepz were obviously after him.

It's important to remember that one of the bad peepz seemed to recognize the strange mark on his belly and tried to capture Kaiba before the ship took off.

Another key piece is that it seems like perhaps his girlfriend is a leader of some sort of rebel group.

Kaiba changed bodies in to the big stuffed looking thing to avoid suspicion I believe or perhaps simply because that perverted lady wanted to use it. And I'm not even sure who the small flying thing is though unfortunately.

Butter was a fucking pimp/playa/ sexual slave (according to big tits) that was playing women and having them help him smuggle memories on board.

And I think the disturbingly crazy sex scene was already explained as best as it could be lmao.

I love the way the story is told to us in a fast paced and subtle way, forcing us to think and pay attention.

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Love the atmosphere.
Continues to be great.
May 29, 2013 9:16 AM

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Dafuq did I just watch that interpreted sex scene and those oversized breasts lolwut? Well that sure was interesting, that ending pop lolwut? Pretty weird but I like it :p

Lets see what's next!
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Well this show certainly doesn't hold your hand and walk you through things.
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If Neiro was such a recognizable terrorist then why didn't the chick say anything? Why is there an elevator thingy and windows in the baggage department? Wasn't Butter dead, wtf was up with him peeping? There seems to be a lot of inconsistencies as well. I'm sure most of my questions will be explained, but I do have a feeling, or just a suspicion, that plot holes may get overlooked in this show because defenders can just ambiguously claim "well, you didn't get it" and hide behind the complexity of the plot.

I wonder whether Popo sold him to that lady for sexual purposes or not.

This show has a great sense of style and humor though. Good stuff.
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Well this show certainly doesn't hold your hand and walk you through things.

Nope...nope it doesn't. I am very confused as to what happened in that episode, or more like, why those things happened. But it's interesting, I like having to think about what I'm watching once in awhile.

In the beginning when the lady was opening her arms to "Kaiba" and "Kaiba" has that smirk on his face, I knew immediately that that was someone else in Kaiba's body. Really interesting ideas about memories transfer and bodies, reminds me of the philosophy class I took around this time last year and we talked about what constitutes the "self" or what makes you you.
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What the hell is going on
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Woah.
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Wow, this is so not child appropriate

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