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Critics and Connoisseurs

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First and foremost, I would like to make it clear that this is not an elitist club. Our goal is to come up a list of highly recommended quality shows that are exemplary either within genre or universally. However, everyone has different standards when it comes to this, so I have made up a short list of basic requirements with the goal of ensuring maximum participation from our members.

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THIS Week's You Decides:
OPEN - Spirited Away (Anime)
OPEN - Bradherley's Coach (Manga)
OPEN - Kenji Harima (School Rumble) (Character)

For Re-vote:
OPEN - Detroit Metal City (Anime)
OPEN - Nodame Cantabile (Manga)

Resurrected:
[none]


THIS Week's Spotlights:
Pale Cocoon (Anime)
D-ASH (Manga)
Neuro Nougami (Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro) (Character)

For Re-vote:
Barefoot Gen (Anime)

Resurrected (2nd week):
Revolutionary Girl Utena (Anime)
Genshiken (Manga)
Edmond Dantes (Gankutsuou) (Character)


NEXT Week's Spotlights:
Seikai no Monshou (Anime)
Please Save My Earth (Manga)
Daisaku Kusama (Giant Robo: The Day the Earth Stood Still) (Character)

For Re-vote:
Perfect Blue (Anime)


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"Y" Means it has been accepted
"Y*" Means it has been accepted permanently
"N" Means it was rejected
"N" Means it was resurrected and rejected for a 2nd time
"R" Means it has been accepted AND has a club review
"R*" Means it has been accepted permanently AND has a club review
"L" Means it didn't meet minimum of 15 combined y/n votes
"Y" Means it has been accepted but still publishing. A final vote is in order once it is finished.
"N" Means it has been rejected but still publishing, and can't be resurrected until it is completed.

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Club Discussion
Sticky: You Decide: Kenji Harima (School Rumble) (Character) ( 1 2 3 4 )
santetjan
70 replies by Berkles »»
14 minutes ago
Sticky: You Decide: Bradherley's Coach (Manga) ( 1 2 3 4 )
santetjan
60 replies by Berkles »»
23 minutes ago
Sticky: Nominate a Character
Anime-Destiny
12 replies by Dozer »»
24 minutes ago
Sticky: Nominate an Anime
Anime-Destiny
17 replies by Dozer »»
24 minutes ago
Sticky: Re-vote You Decide: Detroit Metal City (Anime) ( 1 2 3 4 )
santetjan
69 replies by Daisuki-chan »»
35 minutes ago



Club Comments
insan3soldiern | 18 seconds ago
Yeah, I'll probably check out Giant Robo. If I can find it, that is.

Archaeon | 4 hours ago
I finally get to see what everyone thinks of Daisaku. Hopefully a few more people will watch the show now that he's going to be spotlighted.

santetjan | 11-18-09, 5:52 PM
@kokuro:
Fair enough, there is quite a difference in the overall presentation between Black Lagoon and S&W.
I agree that any further discussion on S&W would be a parrying of why it is liked or disliked, really leading nowhere. Thank you for taking the time to respond to all this at such length, though.

kokuro | 11-18-09, 5:40 PM
@Archaeon:

I have watched many anime with nude characters. I've even watched ecchi anime but non are my favorites. You can't like/dislike a genre unless you've seen something from that genre. Elfen Lied is not a good anime in my opinion and when I watched it with my old roommate it was the first time for me to watch anything like it. If I started watching it now I don't think it would have gone further than episode 2.
At any rate I'm not into opening a discussion about Elfen Lied or explain why I have watched certain anime while I have dropped others. It's only the matter of taste and what you value in a show. I totally respect the fact that you along many other people like S&W and nothing is gonna change it and I don't think anything is going to change the fact that I didn't enjoy S&W as much as you did so I guess if I continue this discussion it's gonna be repeating myself over and over again. I just stated my personal view over the issue and I certainly enjoyed the discussion. Sometimes these discussions help me understand an anime better or learn something.
By the way just to let you know, that story in Ikkyuu-san only takes about 2-3 episodes. The rest of 200 something episodes of that anime have nothing to do with trades. It just happened that the story was exactly the same and had nothing new for me story wise. Thanks for reading and the discussion.

Baman | 11-18-09, 9:46 AM
A naked beautiful actress...

But I concur, I don't see her as overly sexualised. Plenty of other characters are much better/worse even when they have clothes on. It's much like the naked shots of Rei in NGE imo, they didn't come of as too sexualised either, she just happened to be naked.

amcsi | 11-18-09, 7:25 AM
The Horo aspect of S&W is moe, not ecchi. It's no different from having a beautiful actress play the role of the protagonist girl in a live action movie.

Archaeon | 11-18-09, 4:06 AM
@ Kokuro

Let's back up here a second. You say that Horo is sexualized from your perspective, and that was one of the reasons you couldn't finish the show. If that's the case, how on earth did you finish Elfen Lied, a show which is notoriously bad in terms of it's plot, and is far more overtly sexual, and has far more casual nudity,than S&W.

That looks very much like double standards to me, of course, that is just my opinion.

As for the financial aspect, why should there be more risk involved? The show isn't about being overly dramatic in that way, and as I recall, Lawrence tries not to take too many risks - he's a fairly respectable trader who, like many others, is reliant on his reputation, and any risks he does take are calculated to a degree. There's a whole world of difference between that and what you describe in Ikkyuu-san.

Seriously, comparing the two shows is like comparing apples and oranges. Aside from the fact that they're both anime and involve some degree of trade and finance, they're both completely different shows. If I was going to compare S&W to another show, then it would probably be Wagaya no Oinari-sama.

kokuro | 11-17-09, 9:29 PM
@Aionic:

Her boobs aren't bouncing about since S&W is not an ecchi anime. When I mentioned that example I was refering to the fact that the entrance of a character to a scene usually is meant to make an impression and most of the time anime that want to use sex appeal as a major element of the show try to use such ecchi hints. That's one of the reasons I don't like the approach of the show in introducing Horo and her general design. I can respect the fact that many people might have a different first impression of Horo and I did not drop S&W only because of her. Me not liking those hints is only one of the reasons I didn't enjoy the show but it certainly is not the only reason as I have mentioned in the previous post.

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Created: Mar 7, 2008


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