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| What, in your opinion, constitutes a retro anime in this day and age? |
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| Any anime that's all hand-drawn is retro IMO |
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| Anything from the 2000s and before is retro imo |
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| Pre 2000s (pre VNs adaptations era) (your vote) |
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| anything plus 25 ish years I think is retro |
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| I don't think anything after 2000 can be considered retro by any stretch of the imagination. They all have the modern-day aesthetics of the digital age compared to the cel animation aesthetic anime before 2000 have. Maybe you can make the argument for 2006-ish and the abandonment of 3:4 and the start of 720p. But even then it's very subjective. For me personally 'retro' will always mean 80s or earlier, since I grew up in the 90s and can't really consider stuff from that decade as 'retro' in the same sense as I can older stuff that was always 'old'. 90s stuff is old to me, but not retro. It's childhood nostalgia territory, stuff I grew up with, which is a bit of a different category from retro, at least in my book. Also I gotta say the time periods given in the poll are random as hell. Pre 1996s (VHS era) Pre 2000s (pre VNs adaptations era) Pre 2006s (4:3 era) Pre 2015s (pre legal streaming era) I've never seen pre-2000 be defined by being pre-VN adaptations. That's such an irrelevant criteria and you already have the huge aesthetic difference and difference in technology that happened during the switch from cel animation to cg-assisted animation so why you would ignore that and instead define the differences between those eras by something irrelevant like VN adaptations is beyond me tbh. Also in what world did legal streaming start in 2015? I was literally here for the first seasons of simulcasts on CR or Funi which started in 2010 (some earlier examples exist but 2010 is when it started to happen en masse). Even by 2012 basically 40 shows per season were simulcast. By 2015 I was already over the simulcast model so that date makes no sense even though I can get behind using the beginning of simulcasts as a new era of sorts. If anything 2015 is closer to the next era you can define, when Netflix and other streaming services joined the fray in ~2018 and started to produce more and more anime for an international audience instead of the japanese market. |
AlcoholicideMar 14, 2022 1:41 PM
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| Cel anination not only looks very different from digital animation bit it's also produced in a completely different manner so I consider the transition from cel to digital (around 2000) to be the cutoff point. |
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| Pre 1990s is retro because many of my initial anime were from 90s like dragon ball z or yu yu hakusho or original pokemon or shinchan etc |
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| Pre 1996s (VHS era) (your vote)..... |
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| Pre 2006s (4:3 era), more or less, which represents the start of the boom in digital animation production. I consider anime 100% made using celluloids to be retro, because I measure that through evolution in animation techniques, not really by generation. So yeah, in my watch, some old anime are proto-modern, since some of their animations were done by computer while not completely ditching the cels. These went back as far as 1995 with entries like Ghost in the Shell or Tobira o Akete. As with Love Hina, it is one of the first anime entirely made with a digital palette for coloring. |
sorceryMar 14, 2022 2:21 PM
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sorcery said: Pre 2006s (4:3 era), more or less, which represents the start of the boom in digital animation production. I consider anime 100% made using celluloids to be retro, because I measure that through evolution in animation techniques, not really by generation. So yeah, in my watch, old anime like Gegege no Kikaro are proto-modern, since some of their animations were done by computer while not completely ditching the cels. Proto-modern anime went back as far as 1995 with entries like Ghost in the Shell or Tobira o Akete. Love Hina is one of the first anime entirely made with a digital palette for coloring. Technically you can find CGI scenes in anime going back as far as 1983: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jk8s |
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Alcoholicide said: sorcery said: Pre 2006s (4:3 era), more or less, which represents the start of the boom in digital animation production. I consider anime 100% made using celluloids to be retro, because I measure that through evolution in animation techniques, not really by generation. So yeah, in my watch, old anime like Gegege no Kikaro are proto-modern, since some of their animations were done by computer while not completely ditching the cels. Proto-modern anime went back as far as 1995 with entries like Ghost in the Shell or Tobira o Akete. Love Hina is one of the first anime entirely made with a digital palette for coloring. Technically you can find CGI scenes in anime going back as far as 1983: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jk8s Very good call, I forgot about that one. Yes, you are right. These experimental forays count in the lot, even though it was the stone age of digitization. From the 80s, I mostly remember the abstract bumpers made with geometric patterns, back then, the 3D objects looked like toy models and the human models looked uncanny valley as hell. |
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sorcery said: Alcoholicide said: Technically you can find CGI scenes in anime going back as far as 1983: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jk8s Very good call, I forgot about that one. Yes, you are right. These experimental forays count in the lot, even though it was the stone age of digitization. From the 80s, I mostly remember the abstract bumpers made with geometric patterns, back then, the 3D objects looked like toy models and the human models looked uncanny valley as hell. Yeah, if I hadn't seen the anime myself I might not even believe that Golgo clip is for real for how weird it looks in the context of the rest of the anime. I find it kinda fascinating that people greenlit these very early experiments that must have looked really out of place even back then. |
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| "legal streaming era" more like 3rd party era |
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| I'm from the Golden Era, and I'd say that Retro is anything released 2005 - going back to the 1970s and 1960s. For me the modern era began in 2006. But I'm sure a lot of the youth today would consider 2006 OLD and quite possibly "Retro" as well. Last time I was at an anime store here in SATX, this sanctimonious too-cool-for-this-world type (median age I'm guessing no older than 17) stated that modern era is 2011 onward, so for him 2010 is Retro. {Shakes Head} I don't really give a shit. I think anime you enjoy is GOOD ANIME, period. I prefer to call the old school stuff "Classic" anyhow. |
| That's tough, but i've got a lot of nostalgia for that pre-2006 era so i guess then. |
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| I want to say it has to be at least 20 years old. Anything later than that just doesn't feel old enough to even consider as "retro" to me. So early 2000's or older. As much as it pains me to consider anything from the 2000's as retro... |
FanofActionMar 14, 2022 4:49 PM
| I'd say anything that came out in the VHS era as you described it can be described as retro. I think it'll always be that though and my definition won't change in the future even when it's 2050. |
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| Pre 1996 cel animation is what I'd consider old and that seems to be much more common in the early 90s back than any time in the 2000s. all anime past like 2003 I consider modern while 1997-2002 is a mix of both |
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| The age doesn't really matter much here (don't take this out of context). For me, retro anime is before the transition from cel / hand drawn animation to cg / digital animation. So basically before the 2000's. |
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| The rare FOX Kids anime called Dinozone is old enough to be retro at this point. Came out way before Blu-ray and PS3s were even a thing. I don't consider anime made since the Blu-ray and PS3 era retro. Blu-ray is not nearly as dated as VHS, Betamax, VCD and DVD. |
| Pre 2006s (4:3 era) (your vote) every new show is widescreen now anyway or at least having 16:9 aspect ratio |
| probably before 2000, but that’s because I was born in 2002 so I consider stuff older than me retro lmao |
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| pre-2006... is beginning to be retro but still isn't in my views. what sounds nostalgic to me is the 2000s so I'll go with that. |
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| I'm from the 90s and I'd say that most things from the 90s and before is retro. Anything from Pokemon and after is not retro. Retro is before it got somewhat mainstream. |
| Pre 2006 most anime used less bright coloring & certain parts were not very detailed, but there are also older anime that use coloring/details as of now, I don't know if it was made in a common way back then. |
| 20 years at least. That's long enough to qualify for me. |
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| I'd personally put it at 2000 or 2006, but as pointed out above, that's "geriatric millennial" bias at work. I'd assess the cutoff for the viewerbase as a whole at around 2012-13. That was when the Sword Art Online / Attack on Titan boom brought a lot of new viewers into the anime scene, many of which were younger and less likely to reach back for titles that aired before they got into the medium. How many early 10s shows get much of any attention or recognition these days, other than the megahits like Steins;Gate, Madoka Magica, and the like? 2012-13 also marked the end of the era of fansubbing for most newly-airing anime. While legal streaming (from 3rd parties who duly pay agreed-upon licensing fees to Japanese content owners according to signed agreements, just like VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray publishers did for the previous two decades) had been present since roughly 2008-09, 2012-13 was when enough companies were in the game that almost nothing went unlicensed. After that point, groups pretty much gave up on translating anything that got same-day legal subs, since the vast majority of downloads went to direct rips of the legal streams by HorribleSubs (a brainchild of infamous fansub group gg!) and other entities. And even the download numbers for the legal-stream rips were and are dwarfed by the views of lower-quality re-encodes of those rips on bootleg streaming sites. Pre 2000s (pre VNs adaptations era) Surely something else happened with anime in the 2000s, like, perhaps, the transition away from the cel-based animation techniques that had been the norm for the previous 40+ years?Pre 2006s (4:3 era) I sure do love modern, widescreen TV anime from 2006 or later like the ones in this list, along with others I'm probably forgetting. Or maybe "The High-Definition Era" would be a better label for the 2006 cutoff, although a lot of the "HD" broadcasts in those early days were just station upscales of SD shows, many of which never saw a Blu-Ray release. Though the greatest difference between early 2000s and and late 2000s anime maybe isn't related to aspect ratios or resolutions -- it's that studios worked out the kinks and figured out how to make digitally-colored anime actually look good. Like how many of the first 3D console games in the N64/PS1 era looked pretty bad, but improved by the end of that generation and the beginning of the next. |
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| anything before the 2000s, i guess? |
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| Anything before 2006-2000 I guess. |
| I consider anything that is older than me as retro |
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| I would argue around 2006 and below. I can see why most people would gravitate to the 90s though. To me, the advances in Anime in that almost 20 year time gap have been massive, to say the least. |
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| Before 2000s is what I'd consider retro as well. |
| Depends on your age... If you're 12, anime from 2010 would be old as they're before and around your birth but if you're 40, anime from 90's are not that old they were after your birth. |
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| At least before 2000s, even then I'm thinking more like 70s or 80s |
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