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Aug 5, 2020 4:39 PM
#1
Wouldn't of thought anime subreddits were ran by pink haired freaks but i guess i was wrong. The reddit is filled with threads saying to ban this and that since it is such an asinine rule. https://www.reddit.com/r/Animemes/comments/i2mn3g/rule_5_update_as_of_today_the_word_trap_is_now/ |
Aug 5, 2020 4:46 PM
#2
Reddit is and has always been a cesspool, they have double standards and nobody should use it unironically |
Aug 5, 2020 4:49 PM
#3
Aug 5, 2020 4:51 PM
#4
imagine actually using plebbit the absolute state |
あなたは誰? |
Aug 5, 2020 4:53 PM
#5
meanwhile pedophilia flourishes no wonder since its reddit |
Aug 5, 2020 4:58 PM
#6
Who cares? Traps are not real. Let me know when they ban a real word. |
Aug 5, 2020 5:10 PM
#7
"The offensive nature of the word lies in the implication that individuals are trying to trick (“trap”) others and by extension are not valid in how they present their gender." But that's exactly what a trap is. Artists entrap audiences by drawing characters a certain way. |
その目だれの目? |
Aug 5, 2020 5:24 PM
#8
I mean the thing is anything can be used in a bad context. When people use trap majority of the time is in a good nature. I know someone who was bullied through the use of the term, so of course mindfulness is fine and good but context really matters as well. I just think it is stupid to ban when people are using it with majorly positive connotations |
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Aug 5, 2020 5:24 PM
#9
If Reddit were a nationality, I'd rethink my stance on genocide. |
Aug 5, 2020 5:55 PM
#10
Aug 5, 2020 6:01 PM
#11
Cry harder, OP, and have nightmares with pink-haired women. That alone made it worth. |
Aug 5, 2020 6:05 PM
#12
At least redditors are gonna come up with new ideas that are not just --traps are hot-- I hope. |
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Aug 5, 2020 6:08 PM
#13
Honestly that subreddit was full of nothing but 12 year olds repeating the same jokes. Any popular subreddits all go down the same route. r/okbuddybaka is still better anyway |
Aug 5, 2020 6:17 PM
#14
i mean if it offends people yeah ditching it makes sense its not too much of a loss is it |
Aug 5, 2020 6:25 PM
#15
jal90 said: I do. I had nightmares for a month straight when the twitch freakshow controversy came up.Cry harder, OP, and have nightmares with pink-haired women. That alone made it worth. Dolabella said: i mean if it offends people yeah ditching it makes sense its not too much of a loss is it Idk if you are being serious or not but if you are.... it offends .01% of people so... who gives a flying fuck? And most of those people don't even watch anime. |
Aug 5, 2020 7:01 PM
#16
the real problem is how this was communicated to the community. Top down. No discussion. Lots of bans. Dumb automod (literally removes every comment with the word trap no matter the context) Though I also think this is a dumb move on many levels. Trans and trap isnt the same. |
"This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Aug 5, 2020 11:45 PM
#17
So, someone's gonna explain to them that traps and trans are not the same or what? |
Aug 5, 2020 11:56 PM
#18
That's stupid and I don't even like traps except Loran Does that mean that even more dissatisfied reddit users will come to /a/ now? |
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Aug 6, 2020 12:04 AM
#19
Aug 6, 2020 12:19 AM
#20
That's a good thing. The only anime traps they use are Astolfo,Hideyoshi and Felix.I am tired od seeing them.There are some really good traps like Ritsu Soma and Lin Xianming.These two actually look like women then those skinny dudes cross-dressing.Even memes have lost standard.Good riddance.The whole sub-reddit sucks with same overused memes and shows. |
Aug 6, 2020 12:31 AM
#21
Term crossdresser is attacked too. It is ironic that those characters helped many discover their sexualité and gender identity and now they are forced to erase that term along with their identity. Unfortunately they have a zero sum policy, without any co-exististence and debate options, discovering negativity everywhere and even claiming this term would lead to violence or even murder. While one would think that over the years we would become visually literate and critical, this throws things back to the middle ages and at an even worse way |
Aug 6, 2020 12:42 AM
#22
They should ban overly used series tbh. Every goddamn time I see Kaguya-sama with the same template but in different situations. It's not funny anymore. Then there's that one guy posting Erwin memes everyday. It's the same joke over and over. |
Aug 6, 2020 1:02 AM
#23
Uh, guys, what you are doing by saying "some trans people agree with the use of the term" is basically isolating the portions of the community that agree with you and ignoring the rest. It IS a controversial topic so not everybody is going to feel the same way about it, the trans community is not some sort of beehive. Of course some agree and some disagree with this rule. It is absurd that we are discussing here about another forum and their own policies, but I do think that they could have handled this situation better (auto-banning a polysemic word is ugh... they didn't think it through). |
Aug 6, 2020 1:07 AM
#24
Time to spam this in r/animemes after I get unbanned |
Aug 6, 2020 2:02 AM
#25
Aug 6, 2020 2:07 AM
#26
I don't really have a dog in the fight on this one so I don't really care but I clicked through and read some of the comments below the post announcing the ban and people are so insanely PRESSED about it. It's pretty hilarious. |
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Aug 6, 2020 2:10 AM
#27
I never understood why anyone would ban any word, it's always about the way you use it. If I say "You shouldn't call transpeople traps, that's rude", why is that offensive? Same with the N-word imo. |
Aug 6, 2020 2:29 AM
#28
as im seeing it its doing nothing but bringing more fuel to a fire most people didnt know existed. and whatever word that replaces trap will become the next slur so its really really poor thinking by the mods. Also, what are they gonna ban the word weeb next cos its a hate word outside the anime community? like where do you draw the line then |
Aug 6, 2020 2:43 AM
#29
Surprised they didn't ban Loli/Shota memes first... I get why it was banned, tbf weebs use the term in the wrong way to the wrong people I don't blame anyone if they find it offensive. r/animemes is so trash tho, this place is stacked with ironic weebs 🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮. |
Aug 6, 2020 4:10 AM
#30
And since then the sub hasn't been this good in months, this was really poorly thought out by the mods |
Aug 6, 2020 4:19 AM
#31
You mean we can't post Rukako pictures there anymore? That's sad. |
Aug 6, 2020 4:25 AM
#32
not much of a loss there, some other subreddit would probably just take over |
Aug 6, 2020 4:46 AM
#33
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Aug 6, 2020 5:05 AM
#34
i told the mods to kys in the main thread hoping to get perm ban but only got 7 days. I was thinking of spamming astolfo porn next. |
Aug 6, 2020 5:13 AM
#35
so ermm: here's why for anyone wondering. Rule 5 Update: As of today, the word “Trap” is now banned. Read this post for more details. Hello, r/Animemes. There’s some big news today about how we’re working to make this subreddit more inclusive, and a better space for everyone. Rule 5 was previously vague, as many users have different thresholds as to what they consider "sexist/racist/homophobic/transphobic content." We want to work on solving this. Today, we’re introducing a new guideline about appropriate content on the subreddit. We’re now banning the term "trap." This ban applies to the word as it is used to describe feminine characters/individuals, not the word in the general sense. We are aware that the term "trap" is a controversial term to disallow, but this decision was not made without justification. Don't panic, though - your memes are going to remain all but the same, and nobody is coming to take away your cute boys. You may have thoughts or questions about this decision, some of which we may have already addressed: Why is this word offensive? The word “trap” when used to describe individuals has been controversial since its inception, and even more so in recent years. Broadly speaking, most communities readily consider the term to be a slur. The offensive nature of the word lies in the implication that individuals are trying to trick (“trap”) others and by extension are not valid in how they present their gender. The use and misuse of the term in reference to both characters and people often results in the erasure of trans people and dismissal of their validity. I wasn't using it offensively, I didn't mean to hurt anyone, and I didn't do anything wrong. It’s true that you didn’t intend to hurt anyone. In the vast majority of cases, the word was not intended to be hurtful, and you might've even used it as a term of endearment. We are not blaming you for this, you are not the bad guy. It's entirely possible to spend a lot of time in this community and not hear much of how the word is hurtful. However, even we didn't intend to be hurtful, the fact of the matter is simple: our tolerance for the word was making this place less welcoming for transgender and gender-nonconforming people.We as the anime community do not get to decide whether this word is appropriate, and it is our responsibility as curators of the community to ensure that r/Animemes is welcoming to all anime fans that are willing to act in good faith. What should I say instead? While the word "trap" may be on the way out, there are multiple terms that carry the same meanings, sans the derogatory connotations, which you can use for all of your memes about these characters. For example: Femboy: Term for a (usually) cis man that presents as traditionally female. Crossdresser: Self-explanatory. Otokonoko(男の娘): A common Japanese term for a male who presents traditionally female; crossdresser. Josou (josō, 女装): A Japanese word meaning "wearing female/feminine." Often used interchangeably with Otokonoko. Tomgirl: Opposite of tomboy - a boy that acts/looks like a girl/carries feminine mannerisms. Cutie: Objectively the best descriptor. These terms are not exhaustive, and that other terms that have similar definitions but are still offensive will be considered as such. I never saw anybody complaining about it, why now? We’ve received numerous complaints on the topic. It is understandably a controversial issue to bring up. When it comes up in comments, threads frequently devolve into accusations, downvotes, and drama. Due to our inaction, this problem has been allowed to continue. What about discussions regarding the slur itself? r/Animemes isn't the place for that kind of discussion. I personally identify with the word "trap." Can I still use it? No. We don't allow people who self-identify with other slurs to freely use them. They're just characters, who cares? We don’t allow people to use slurs to describe characters. Is r/Animemes getting political? Only to the extent that us banning other slurs could be considered a political statement. The existence and validity of transpeople is a medical fact, and their grievances deserve just as much respect as the grievances of any other race/gender/sexual orientation. Is this a violation of my free speech? No. We are not required to give slurs a platform, and are well within our rights as community caretakers to deem certain types of content to be against our rules. Are the mods turning into the PC police? No. We're simply trying to make the community a more welcome space for everyone in it, and that includes transpeople. We do not want to run a space where intolerance is tolerated. We do not have any plans to disallow any further words for the foreseeable future. Is this change subject to reversal based on community outcry? No. We've made our decision and we're going to stick by it. If you wish to discuss the rule change in this thread, you may do so as long as you act in good faith. You may air grievances in this thread, but be aware that using these terms outside of this thread is, as of now, disallowed. We will be keeping a close eye on this thread, but we will not respond to questions that have already been answered in the post. We’re here to listen, and talk with the community. Harassment, witch hunts, brigading, acting in bad faith, or similar behavior will not be tolerated. Thank you for reading. -The r/Animemes Mod Team |
Aug 6, 2020 10:02 AM
#36
The absolute state of reddit. Never used it and probably never will. |
Aug 6, 2020 10:10 AM
#37
>Reddit Bruh... I don't know why OP was so surprised that this kind of things take place on Reddit, lol. Diddle said: The absolute state of reddit. Never used it and probably never will. Yup, same do I and I completely agree with you. |
Aug 6, 2020 10:13 AM
#38
It's not like r/animememes is supervised by "pink haired freaks", but in fact r/trans community demanded it to be outlawed, because they deemed it as offensive. It requires special kind of stupidity to consider one of the most common anime trope and probably exclusive to anime as offensive. Anyway, actually I suspect that those people in fact do not really care, but pretend in order to gain attention and make themselves look virtuous. In the end, r/animememes mods did the worst thing possible and caved in to demands of the mob, from which they won't get anything, not even "thank you" and from their own just scorn and reputation as pansies, from which you may demand anything. |
Aug 6, 2020 10:26 AM
#39
I never saw the term "trap" used outside the anime community or at trans people. Kind of sad how malicious individuals can cause such a divide in a community. My only worry is that given this newfound opportunity they will target the anime community in general. |
Aug 6, 2020 10:28 AM
#41
Omegeria said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: i told the mods to kys in the main thread hoping to get perm ban but only got 7 days. I was thinking of spamming astolfo porn next. Alright now I don’t think their decision is good either, but how about you don’t be a little shit about it? You being that annoying will only make the mods feel more justified with themselves Nah. There was a game that removed something from the game cause fake news game journalists like shitaku said it was homophobic and there was lots of review bombs and troll threads and they reversed it back to normal. Piromysl said: It's not like r/animememes is supervised by "pink haired freaks", but in fact r/trans community demanded it to be outlawed, because they deemed it as offensive. It requires special kind of stupidity to consider one of the most common anime trope and probably exclusive to anime as offensive. Anyway, actually I suspect that those people in fact do not really care, but pretend in order to gain attention and make themselves look virtuous. In the end, r/animememes mods did the worst thing possible and caved in to demands of the mob, from which they won't get anything, not even "thank you" and from their own just scorn and reputation as pansies, from which you may demand anything. Just like how dnd is getting neutered this popped up. Bet 100$ they will remove it. https://www.vg247.com/2020/08/05/dungeons-and-dragons-remove-race/amp/?__twitter_impression=true |
Aug 6, 2020 10:31 AM
#42
I kind of expect this kind of thing from reddit. Reddit usually bans anything that can be perceived as “offensive” This really is moronic though. |
Aug 7, 2020 12:19 AM
#43
Update. It seems to be exploding on twitter to. https://twitter.com/Mocaofuwa/status/1291590880441372677?s=19 https://twitter.com/CiaranStrange/status/1291064754279272452?s=19 https://twitter.com/traabot/status/1290216656422100992?s=19 The usual ones that get everything banned for the majority. Nothing new. |
Aug 7, 2020 2:41 AM
#45
Kayle_x_Morgana said: Well shit, it’s spreading to Twitter...Update. It seems to be exploding on twitter to. https://twitter.com/Mocaofuwa/status/1291590880441372677?s=19 https://twitter.com/CiaranStrange/status/1291064754279272452?s=19 https://twitter.com/traabot/status/1290216656422100992?s=19 The usual ones that get everything banned for the majority. Nothing new. |
Aug 7, 2020 2:42 AM
#46
Traps are disgusting anyways so it's a win. |
Aug 7, 2020 2:43 AM
#47
Damn I lurked there and this dumb drama is getting more spicy, I like how this sub is saying that others are getting triggered over a word yet almost every comment that got buzzwords like neckbeards or chuds is down-voted. |
Aug 7, 2020 3:00 AM
#48
A transphobic slur is banned and reactionary weebs are crying a river. Naturally, everyone else is laughing at them.. |
Aug 7, 2020 3:14 AM
#49
Thats not about the topic itself, but: Is there even a person who gives a **** about reddit? It's only used for ingame trades for games which have no marketplace and can be legaly traded. Otherwise it's a complete mess. Even /b is more civilized than those ppl. It's a pond of ppl who live in their own rainbow world thanks to the medieval up/downvote system. |
Aug 7, 2020 3:25 AM
#50
Kelraz said: Is there even a person who gives a **** about reddit? Let's just say, it's a sizeable amount.. |
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