| Opened the forums after a very long time the other day and I found some topic about him where people are like 'hes trash anyway'. I'm curious, seems like an ok dude. Digicunt on the other hand, I could understand. |
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| he hate sao i like sao he shit poop ass |
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| idk his videos are too long and uninteresting |
| Because all anime YouTubers are triggering |
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| Because he's not DouchebagChocolat. |
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| Un-interesting, inconsistent, and a bad taste in anime are a good (or rather, a bad) start. |
| Because even if his videos don't have anything to do with SAO, he still brings up every time how much he dislikes it. Or at least used to haven't watched any of his videos in ages lul |
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| He talks way too much about SAO, did you know he hates it and that's it's the worst thing ever? Get ready to be reminded of it every single time you watch him. Also he's not Gigguk, so there's the main problem. |
CondemneDio said: Un-interesting, inconsistent, and a bad taste in anime are a good (or rather, a bad) start. How can someone have a bad taste in anime ? That isn't even possible given that taste is entirely subjective. |
| I don't particularly dislike or like him he has some entertaining videos and I do watch him from time to time |
| No one really likes any anitubers that solely focus on opinionated comedy And that's a LOT of anitubers. You don't see many legitimate critics on YT as perse, 4chan or even this forum (sometimes lol). The only anitubers I watch are Misty Chronexia, The Anime Man, Gigguk and Akidearest, which are pretty basic but they make nice content regardless |
xShinigami3125 said: CondemneDio said: Un-interesting, inconsistent, and a bad taste in anime are a good (or rather, a bad) start. How can someone have a bad taste in anime ? That isn't even possible given that taste is entirely subjective. 1) It's a meme. 2) There actually are anime that are objectively bad. Like Mars of Destruction. 3) Don't take it seriously when someone says someone has a shit taste. |
this guy knows what's up -characterlimit- |
| -Has practically 0 sense of integrity and sells ad space in his videos in places where it actively disrupts the thoughts and ideas he tries to communicate, not just at the beginning or end or anywhere sensible. Mostly comes across as a sockpuppet for sponsors. CR and Bookwalker and Naruto Online or whoever pretty much have their hands up his ass, moving his lips like a ventriloquist doll. I remember one time a few months ago he said something controversial and his immediate response to it was to whine about "costing me sponsorships" on his twitter. If that doesn't show where his priorities lie, I don't know what does. -Has 1 opinion - he dislikes SAO. It's one thing to hate it and talk about it extensively and such, then there's dedicating vast amounts of your channel's content to reiterating this opinion to where, again, it leads to poorly communicated comparisons and arguments that do not benefit the discussion of the overhead topic or thought he's trying to discuss and instead just comes across as an obnoxious, hamfisted in reminder that "hurr durr I really hate SAO." His NGNL video was egregious about this in particular - he was declaring NGNL the king of isekai, yeah? Comparison totally warranted in this case as to the aspects they could share could be used to bolster "Why NGNL is a really good isekai" compared to another work that's (debatably) popular in this type of series. Instead he does nothing resembling that and just opts to reiterate for the thousandth time that "Hey guys I really hate SAO" - so it goes nowhere, nothing is achieved, no benefit is had. It ends up being pointless filler to remind everybody of what he has made goddamn sure everybody knows because he cannot go 5 minutes without reminding his audience of this, even when it's vapid and useless to anything he's doing. It's not even being treated as a running joke, he'll try to make "legitimate" comparisons that amount to little more to "This thing I'm talking about is good and SAO sucks" without actually digging deeper into it. I'd say he shoots his credibility on the topic in the foot by treating his opinion on SAO less as a thought or idea and more as an integral part of his character and person, but he has none to begin with so there's really no loss on that front. -Speaking of which, he's awful about going on tangents. His videos have this pattern of behaving more like an ADHD kid on meth with how much he darts from place to place - a common pattern is that he begins talking about topic (A), right? This segways into topic (B) which he'll use to try to illustrate and further substantiate topic (A) for a bit, which is fair game. Then he basically says fuck topic (A) and will go on such a detached tangent about topic (B) that it starts becoming irrelevant to the topic of the whole video. Then he'll introduce topic (C), start off the bit about using it relative to discussing topic (B) like he did previously, before doing the same thing with topic (C) where he begins digging so deeper into that line of thought that it starts becoming detached from topic (B) and digs further into irrelevancy and tangentalness. Then it ends there, and he traces back to topic (A) and continues discussing it as if that whole time he was talking about things that were relevant to the point he was trying to talk about, even though by and large it becomes kind of off-topic and pointless to the idea he's trying to communicate. Then he moves on to the next point in his video. It gives off a very "I just shat out a script and didn't proofread or edit it after writing it to make sure I'm communicating my thoughts in a cohesive manner" vibe, or a "I'm padding out the length of my video with meaningless trite" vibe. One or the other, who knows. -Hypocrisy. "Pirate Netflix and Amazon Strike shows because I disagree with their business practices. But even if you disagree with CR's business practices, do not pirate their shows, you are morally obligated to use the services of my sponsors when applicable." This ties into no integrity. You're only morally obligated to legally consume CR's shows - a company he has explicit connections with - even if you don't like their business ethics, but the same doesn't go for their competition and pirate that away. It's borderline a joke - even if you're pro-legal or pro-piracy I don't know how that sort of mindset can be justified because it's just transparent CR shilling with little justification behind such a hypocritical stance past his explicitly known and self-admitted connections with the business. -All of that could be fine, though, if he ever said something thought provoking or interesting. But he doesn't. Digi can say dumb shit, he can say decent shit sometimes too even if he's an asshole about it, he can say cool shit, he's very inconsistent in terms of quality. He can have good conclusions that are just being justified in asinine ways. Mother's Basement? He has asinine conclusions being justified in asinine ways and little else. "I didn't like Mahouka, I didn't like Maburaho, therefore every show in between those two that takes place in a magic high school must suck as well. Also because they're taking place in a magic high school then they're obviously just ripping off Harry Potter, even when there's practically little to no connection between the two settings." That's the consistent quality of his opinions, and he generally takes those kinds of ideas and stretches them out in the ways I've described above to pad out a 20 - 30 minute video without ever actually really going *deeper* into that sort of justification, it just stays at sort of surface level that can be surmised in a single sentence or two and is just filled with off-topic tangents and advertisements for Bookwalker or whomever. So yeah, there's a lot of issues with his videos. I vastly prefer Digi - even if I don't actually like Digi much at all the majority of the time - because Digi might be an asshole but he's an asshole who, even if by accident, can say something genuinely interesting or thought provoking sometimes. He can sometimes have a fair conclusion but just stumble about in his arguments and end up justifying it poorly. Mother's Basement, on the other hand, is very, very consistent in just living up to these negative qualities and has very little redeeming value as a result. Give me Digi's often-terrible but somewhat sporadic quality over the consistently terrible that is MB. They've both practically got the same assholish, egotistical character anyway that they use to try to kick up needless dust. Like, look at it this way - Digi made that video about "We have accepted mediocrity" a while back and a lot of people sat down and had lengthy discussions involving various interpretations of the quality of his opinions. As toxic as it could be sometimes - this is AD after all - there was discussion. We almost never actually talk about Mother's Basement's content in the same way, because, well, there isn't really anything to talk about like that. It's always an overhead about him as a content creator and whether or not we like or dislike him, and the responses are all either the same list of things - "I hate him," "he's not that bad," "he's a shill," or "Who cares?" Even if I think Digi is a dumbass a lot of the time, he has that sort of value to the community in that he can spark up some genuinely passionate discourse. We never have that about MB because there just isn't any room for it because his channel isn't about thoughts or ideas, he's just a billboard who milks his SAO hate as an integral part of his character as a reviewer and looks at things in a very "what" heavy way instead of looking more into "why" in the rare occurrence he isn't just one of the two previous things. It's hard to actually discuss him seriously sometimes because his content is so vapid and useless that it's easier to just meme about how much I hate how he's a reviewer that people actually parrot and subject their opinions to. Like, have some goddamn standards people, you can do much, much better than this. Though obligatory "His OP videos are actually kind of cool," because they're (usually) exempt from these sorts of problems that plague his other content. |
ManabanApr 26, 2018 8:50 AM
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| probably because we see threads about him every other minute he has an opinion. who cares if it's shit? |
| Everyone has their own opinion, personally i like him and his videos. |
| @Manaban has serious issues with him he'll love to share with us. LOL Other than that I have watched a few videos and it's not like I personally dislike him or something, he is just... beyond the opening analysis which are fun he doesn't seem to have much value as a critic. In his video of Sora yori for instance and after bringing the usual praise to the other departments he went to talk about the music and of all things he could have complained about, he chose to say that the tracks were used repeatedly throughout the series. "People are going to notice that you repeat the songs". I can't describe how intensely I rolled my eyes during that moment. Other than that my usual problems with popular anitubers who all talk about the same shows and bring the same points, which make him and many others feel like they are merely hopping on trend. |
CondemneDio said: xShinigami3125 said: How can someone have a bad taste in anime ? That isn't even possible given that taste is entirely subjective. 1) It's a meme. 2) There actually are anime that are objectively bad. Like Mars of Destruction. 3) Don't take it seriously when someone says someone has a shit taste. I knew many people say it as a joke but I have seen enough people who are serious about it so you never knew. |
xShinigami3125Apr 26, 2018 8:33 AM
xShinigami3125 said: CondemneDio said: 1) It's a meme. 2) There actually are anime that are objectively bad. Like Mars of Destruction. 3) Don't take it seriously when someone says someone has a shit taste. I knew many people say it as a joke but I have seen enough people who are serious about it so you never knew. Fair enough. It's an easy way of discrediting opposing arguments, even if it is fallacious. Ease of use makes it so prevalent. |
| He seems like the stereotypical Sell out youtuber where he only cares for the money And he beat the dead horse named Sao to many times |
YayaChibi said: @Manaban No matter how shit or whatever your opinions are in like half the threafs on MAL I appreciate how you right a fucking essay for each post and I have never seen another user that into the forums to do that shit lmao lol Er, well thanks I guess, but I'd usually like to know why my opinions are shit if they are xP Also I'm actually most active on Discord and club stuff nowadays, so I wouldn't even say I'm that into the forums. I just like to try to substantiate and explain my thoughts as much as possible, to the best of my ability. Blame the community for my walls of text because I just got pissed about all of the vapid complaints about fanservice and harems that amounted to little more than labels being applied and nothing more, and decided to at least try not to be like that, if nothing else :> |
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| No idea, I only watch him because of the OP videos, I enjoy them. |
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xShinigami3125 said: CondemneDio said: Un-interesting, inconsistent, and a bad taste in anime are a good (or rather, a bad) start. How can someone have a bad taste in anime ? That isn't even possible given that taste is entirely subjective. Oh dear, it's totally possible.... |
| I personally don't think all his videos are bad but sometimes I just feel bored but that's not for all of his videos I actually thought some were decent and some of his opinions even though being somewhat exaggerated sometimes are true but that's just my opinion. |
| He bitches about piracy, yet knows all about an anime before it's officially out. Therefore, he pirates while telling everyone else not to. I dislike two faced pieces of shit that push their views that they don't even follow themselves. He can choke on a dick for all I care. People like him ruin the community. |
| I like Digibro. Mother's Basement will say/shameless endorse anything for money. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
xShinigami3125 said: CondemneDio said: Un-interesting, inconsistent, and a bad taste in anime are a good (or rather, a bad) start. How can someone have a bad taste in anime ? That isn't even possible given that taste is entirely subjective. Finally, someone with a brain. Thank You. I really hate it when people say that certain someone has bad taste in certain something. |
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Parzival88 said: Dude have you seen Tsui no Sora? Mars of Destruction is a masterpiece in comparison with Tsui no SoraLike, dude have you seen Mars of Destruction? |
| There is no need for a specific reason to hate anime youtubers. |
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YayaChibi said: Lmao like do you have a job? Lmao lol like holy shit dude you must have a lot of free time + Must really be into MAL topics lol That I do. I work at a funeral home as an assistant to the guy who I finished an apprenticeship under. I just wake up, go to work, come home and do whatever on the computer. I'm usually up way into the early morning and essentially just get two naps in, one a few hours before bed and one during the server's most down hours instead of having something resembling a healthy sleep schedule. This is more freetime stuff on the forums, tho. I have no sense of obligation to do anything here like I do with clubs, I just do it to do it. |
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| Bad things: - Pretentious af. - "I hate SAO. Do you know that SAO is literally worst anime? And do you know that I hate it? Ah, let me compare LITERALLY any single trend, trope and anime to fucking SAO. I hate it so much that I constantly talk about it 24/7" - Kind of a sellout - Hypocrite, sometimes he says something then contradicts his own "personal opinions" in the very same video. - About that, you can see that he's not capable to organize a video (except the ones where he analyzes openings). Good things: - His voice is okay. - His "opening analysis" videos are actually pretty well done: he knows what he's talking about and (only on those videos) is able to bring his points across efficiently. I think they're a little too much scripted, but like I said they're okay, I enjoy them quite a lot. |
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| damn, 40 comments in a course of 3 hours. shitting on anitubers seems to be a hot topic |
uninstallthegameApr 26, 2018 10:59 AM
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| Anitubers bother people because they make money on their opinions? Also he's a shill but you know. It doesn't bother me. |
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| guys, it's not digibro anymore, it's otaku gonzo journalism... god, what cringe |
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| Generally not a fan of anime youtuber's apart from Gigguk. They are way too pretentious and try too hard |
| Mother's Basement is becoming more and more of what I ran away from Western media to anime for. A "crusader" for some goal and keeps shoving it in your face because it's the worst thing to happen. I'm all about discussion and debating, but the way he talks about issues such as piracy pushed me away from his videos entirely. It's very stubborn and has me feel like I'm inferior to him because I'm not entirely on his side of the issue. Those kind of people are never fun to discuss things with and frankly not worth my time to spend on. |
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| my guess - people are triggered because he says there's no good excuse to pirate anime, and MAL is pretty much Anime Pirates HQ. everyone here is a pirate (or was), and most haven't even spent a dime on anime-manga-novel merchandise. people don't want to look bad for pirating, so they often come with "reasons" to pirate, which MB refutes. by the same token, people on Youtube who try and justify piracy are seen as "great youtubers" by the anime pirate community. |
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DreamingBeats said: my guess - people are triggered because he says there's no good excuse to pirate anime, and MAL is pretty much Anime Pirates HQ. everyone here is a pirate (or was), and most haven't even spent a dime on anime-manga-novel merchandise. people don't want to look bad for pirating, so they often come with "reasons" to pirate, which MB refutes. by the same token, people on Youtube who try and justify piracy are seen as "great youtubers" by the anime pirate community. Egh, there's a lot more to why his channel is garbage than just "He thinks there's no excuse for piracy" (which he does not think that's the case and he's demonstrated that himself, mind you - he's perfectly okay with pirating anime from places like Netflix and his anti-piracy stance has been explicitly shown to trace exclusively back to CR and CR alone, making it, in a nutshell, more accurate to say "MB sees no excuse for pirating anime his sponsors have licensed" which is where one of the main issues lies with his stances on piracy) and a few of them have been expressed by more than just me in this thread. Hell, a lot of it isn't even necessarily related to piracy and would be applied regardless of his stance on that. He has a ton of issues communicating his ideas and justifying them in a meaningful or even rational way when it comes to his analysis videos and I take much greater issue with that than him basically being a human billboard. He could be just as bent on being a shill and still provide good content and it'd be forgivable - it's just, y'know, he doesn't. I wrote a miniature novel about some of those alone earlier in this thread, if you want to take a look. By being so reductive about it, you're pretty much strawmanning why people have issues with his channel - not even just the piracy videos, but the whole plethora of issues that people have expressed with it. And personally, I don't give an iota of a fuck if he's anti-piracy by itself, the issue lies much more with the "why" and "how" he has that opinion - not "what" the opinion itself is. |
ManabanApr 26, 2018 11:53 AM
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