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Nov 30, 2017 10:50 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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that was a pretty fire chapter, was kinda expecting a sanji vs oven fight at least but this works just as well,

wonder who is that swordsmen tho
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Nov 30, 2017 10:54 PM
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Bege’s ship was pretty awesome.

Oven doesn’t seem too bright almost destroying the cake.

Wow I didn’t expect Pound to be taken out. RIP.
Nov 30, 2017 11:01 PM
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Damn I didn't think i would tear up of Pound dead :(
It's so sad Chiffon and Lola never once know their dad :( and Bege was awesome this chapter.
His ship is so cool to can travel on land as a tank xD
Nov 30, 2017 11:43 PM
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RIP Pound. That was sad that his daugthers didn't even know him 'till the end of his life.
Oven trying to chase Bege's crew, but he failed. Bege's ship was cool though..
Finally Sanji's group get sail while Nami & the others still trying to run away from Big Mom.
Dec 1, 2017 12:24 AM
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Sanji flying with one leg. Pudding falling even more in love with Sanji. And poor, poor Pound.
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Dec 1, 2017 12:25 AM
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One of the best chapters of all time in my opinion. Oda is on fire. Last chapter was incredible and this chapter is even better. Such an emotional chapter too. 10/10.
Dec 1, 2017 12:29 AM
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You guys truly believe pound is dead ??
Cmon as long as you don't see the body he will survive one piece doesn't kill people
Dec 1, 2017 12:34 AM
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I actually got goosebumbs while watching his final moments. Good writing


Dec 1, 2017 12:58 AM
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I'm pretty sure Pound isn't dead, we didn't see a body (that's also the reason why i believe Pedro isn't dead yet). However, until that's confirmed, I'll admit his final moments were quite emotional. He truly loved his daughters even though he never met them.
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“Somewhere, someone is wishing for your happiness.” Lookin at the title I thought this would be a happy chapter, and turns out to be an unexpected tear-jerker. Kudos to Oda for always magically making the ugly characters no one cares about to one of the most kind hearted, brilliant characters in the end.
Dec 1, 2017 2:28 AM
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Then thing with Lola and Chiffon's father was so sad.

Also, to see Sanji kick the cake like 30 feet into the air was so gratifying.
Dec 1, 2017 2:29 AM

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Oven was kinda stupid almost ruining the cake that was gonna stop Big Mom rampage, oh well I guess you could say he is hotheaded.


baltazak said:
You guys truly believe pound is dead ??
Cmon as long as you don't see the body he will survive one piece doesn't kill people


Moscato, Baum, Opera, Pedro and now Pound.

That's 5 from this arc alone.
Dec 1, 2017 2:37 AM
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Fantastic chapter, Pound and Chiffon part was really sad, got chills when reading that. Also I am just loving the Fire Tank Pirates more and more with every coming chapter Oda has been doing a great job with their characters. Sanji kicking the carriage up with his feet was also another good moment.

Dec 1, 2017 2:46 AM

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that was late...

it was emotional...
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Dec 1, 2017 2:55 AM

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seriously, how dense Chiffon can be!? Pound save her, but she thinking he's a pervert? really?

Bege's ship are one of the unique ship other than Thousand Sunny.

Sanji getting more awesome each chapter.

Dec 1, 2017 3:40 AM

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Awesome ship Bege's got there wew, didn't expect that.
Finally time to face Big Mom again I hope!
Dec 1, 2017 4:47 AM

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SuperRed said:
Oven was kinda stupid almost ruining the cake that was gonna stop Big Mom rampage, oh well I guess you could say he is hotheaded.


baltazak said:
You guys truly believe pound is dead ??
Cmon as long as you don't see the body he will survive one piece doesn't kill people


Moscato, Baum, Opera, Pedro and now Pound.

That's 5 from this arc alone.


i mean, for pedro at least, its not the first time someone allah akubars and survives so


Kuma said:
that was late...

it was emotional...

i mean relatively speaking still earlier than the friday afternoon batch
btw look who made this discussion thread :>
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Dec 1, 2017 5:07 AM

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Scarlett_ryuken said:
Kuma said:
that was late...

it was emotional...

i mean relatively speaking still earlier than the friday afternoon batch
btw look who made this discussion thread :>


you must be lucky...

i just going home from my professor home and realize somthing up... i already giving up for it to updated this day TBF...

just 1 more week until my HOLIDAY!
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Dec 1, 2017 5:27 AM
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Wow who had Pound being the big hero of the fight? Well than if he is dead, what a way to go ahead.

And Pudding and her just love and admiration for Sanji, couldn't control herself and blew his cover. The curse of love.

Yeah Oven don't care, he is so mad, he is not thinking what destroying the cake would mean for everybody.

I don't know if Pound is truly dead, but I think he should be dead, it would be a good way to end his character.
Dec 1, 2017 5:56 AM

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Another supernova with a crazy ass ship,definitely impressed by Nostra Castello and also by Sanjis little demonstration of his leg power.

Pounds sacrifice was like most of these moments in One Piece, pretty emotional.Now we have to see of he's really dead or not...
I'm a bit disappointed,tho,cause it looks like Capone vs Oven is postponed or maybe even canceled.

Sunny in a pinch,hoping for Jinbe in action, battles on the sea should be his speciality,but let's see what he can actually do against such an overhelming force.

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Dec 1, 2017 6:31 AM

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SuperRed said:
baltazak said:
You guys truly believe pound is dead ??
Cmon as long as you don't see the body he will survive one piece doesn't kill people


Moscato, Baum, Opera, Pedro and now Pound.

That's 5 from this arc alone.

Add Jigra and Du Feld to that list. Oda is gone mad this arc.
Dec 1, 2017 6:46 AM

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Great chapter.

Loved Bege's ship throwing Oven and co completely off guard. Sanji's showing off his leg power was awesome too.

Pound was however the true hero of this chapter.
The final few pages of this chapter were really emotional, The execution like scene coupled with his final words of apology to his daughter for not being able to be by her side were incredibly moving.
The man truly loved the daughter's he never even met and that's beautiful in it's own way.

Also the touch with Pez seeming able to identify Pound as an ally and initially smiling on seeing him, and finally crying at his death was really really well done.
Dec 1, 2017 7:04 AM
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baltazak said:
You guys truly believe pound is dead ??
Cmon as long as you don't see the body he will survive one piece doesn't kill people


Oh I forgot, Ace, Whitebeard, Vergo and Monet are still alive and kicking. Cmon, Oda has changed his attitude with death among characters since chapter 574.

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I'm pretty sure Pound isn't dead, we didn't see a body (that's also the reason why i believe Pedro isn't dead yet). However, until that's confirmed, I'll admit his final moments were quite emotional. He truly loved his daughters even though he never met them.


Whitebeard and Ace died with us seeing their bodies. Vergo and Monet died (and were later confirmed to be entirely dead by Oda in an SBS) in the explosion on Punk Hazard. Pedro is 100% dead seeing how the explosion even shredded the, with candy armor protected arm of Perospero. Not sure how you expect a body there, since Pedro had those bombs strapped to his chest and Perospero was in a distance even. Can't be more obvious that he is dead. And now Pound.

Why do people even still go "lol Onepiece doesnt kill people" when there are people that officially died in the series? Even obvious deaths like Ace and Whitebeard? Or do these people not read the manga? Possibly ignoring them or just forgetting them? While Oda has made 1-2 poor choices of not killing a character (like Mr. 2) they are the exception and not the rule.
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@Morayne The only reason I'm remaining skeptical about Pedro for now is because I still remember Pell from Alabasta surviving a bomb explosion from basically point-blank range. I'm pretty sure Pedro is dead, don't get me wrong, but I want to make sure it's 1000% confirmed first.

Plus, I'm not saying that One Piece doesn't kill people, as I'm well aware that there have been several deaths in the series so far already.
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Dec 1, 2017 7:49 AM
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thebrentinator24 said:
@Morayne The only reason I'm remaining skeptical about Pedro for now is because I still remember Pell from Alabasta surviving a bomb explosion from basically point-blank range. I'm pretty sure Pedro is dead, don't get me wrong, but I want to make sure it's 1000% confirmed first.


Pell was a strange case because as Oda wrote those chapters, the twin tower attacks happened and out of respect for the people that died that day, he let Pell live (as there were parallels with an explosion and a tall building, so he didn't want to kill him off in the end as originally planned). He even dedicated a colourspread for that event.

If you really want to be 1000% sure then we just need to wait for a possible SBS confirmation as Oda did with Vergo and Monet.
Dec 1, 2017 8:03 AM

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Gotta admit, Bege's ship was freaking cool. Franky should do this with the Sunny as well. Pound saved the day albeit at the cost of his life. Lots of death in this arc.
Dec 1, 2017 8:54 AM

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thebrentinator24 said:
@Morayne The only reason I'm remaining skeptical about Pedro for now is because I still remember Pell from Alabasta surviving a bomb explosion from basically point-blank range. I'm pretty sure Pedro is dead, don't get me wrong, but I want to make sure it's 1000% confirmed first.

Plus, I'm not saying that One Piece doesn't kill people, as I'm well aware that there have been several deaths in the series so far already.



I get that Pell's situation was ridiculous, but that was 15 years ago. FIFTEEN YEARS. One Piece is different than it was back then, I'm sure Oda is different than he was back then and the editor is a different person (literally, in this case).

I'm not saying Pedro is 100% dead since we haven't seen the body. And even if he really is dead, we most likely never will since it would be too much gore for One Piece. Same with seemingly decapitated Pound. However, using Pell's example is just insane, especially in the light of what has been actually happening in the recent years of the series.
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Dec 1, 2017 9:10 AM

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It's very rare when someone dies in One Piece, so i'm not sure that Pound died.

I expected Luffy to fight, but seeing Bege and Sanji was fine too.

I thought the end of the arc would be when they screwed up the wedding for Big Mom, and here we are with lots of chapters later. I think we are really heading for the climax now. A final fight from Katakuri and Luffy, while the rest of the crew "gives" the cake to Big Mom, and escape. I'm not sure what else could happen.

It's so weird that according to an interview last year, the story should have ended months ago, and we are just getting to the climax now. Either the source was really bad, or these interviews are not trustworthy.
Dec 1, 2017 9:59 AM

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It's so weird that according to an interview last year, the story should have ended months ago, and we are just getting to the climax now. Either the source was really bad, or these interviews are not trustworthy.

Think of the latter. Editors are not a reliable information to tell how long an arc will be, since they will always try to hype. It doesn't help either that Oda is pretty terrible at planning how much it will take him to reach certain points in the story and has a tendency to underestimate the length of his own manga.
Dec 1, 2017 11:38 AM

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Pound is dead? doubt it, I don't even think pedro is dead either till I see it.
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It's so weird that according to an interview last year, the story should have ended months ago, and we are just getting to the climax now. Either the source was really bad, or these interviews are not trustworthy.

Oda must have suddenly lengthened the arc, there should be one more twist incoming like smoothie or katakuri are actually uncover marines or a coup against big mom happens.
Dec 1, 2017 1:56 PM

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Was it Oven who had the Heat-Heat-Fruit or was there another manga character who had similar powers. Well, the Don from the filler arc had that power, meaning that the anime would imply the Don's death.

But, hell, Pound...at least Pez may more or less recognized him as his grandfather. Either that or they're soulmates.
Dec 1, 2017 3:58 PM

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Wow I actually didn't expect for Pound to go out at all. At least he helped Chiffon, Bege, Pudding and Sanji getaway. May he rest in peace.
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Was it Oven who had the Heat-Heat-Fruit or was there another manga character who had similar powers. Well, the Don from the filler arc had that power, meaning that the anime would imply the Don's death.

But, hell, Pound...at least Pez may more or less recognized him as his grandfather. Either that or they're soulmates.


Oven's the one who have the Heat DF, but there's 2 noncanon characters(one from filler and one from a movie) with similar properties.
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Dec 1, 2017 4:29 PM

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wow, that was pretty sad at the end. at least Pound was able to see his daughter at least once.
amazing chapter as always
side note: I also love Pudding's adorable "we can do it" pose at the last panel
Dec 1, 2017 7:56 PM

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well that was something...and it was kinda sad the dad died and the daughter never knew who he really was
Dec 1, 2017 10:32 PM

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They are fighting against Big Mom's crew. Some casualties is expected. I can't believe how people still think Oda can't kill characters.

Dec 2, 2017 4:21 PM

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I can't believe how people still think Oda can't kill characters.


oh yeah sure it's not like there's at least a dozen cases where Oda attempts to make the audience think that a character is dead only to miraculously bring them back after a while


Why not think about how many characters he have killed instead?

Dec 3, 2017 5:23 AM

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The more I see Begge the more I am starting to like this guy. He has some really big guts. At first I was kinda disappointed by the fact that we did not see Luffy fight but then again the preparation of the cake and its deliverance are as important; if not more. Also... damn that father is truly a tragic figure... I just hate Big Mom with all my might after seeing her doing shit like that.
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Even if Luffy fight was not shown it was a sad and interesting chapter especially Chiffon's dad last words.

That Oven is one boiling bastard in the moment, but I think Sanji will handle him fine.

What exciting chapters to come, especially now Big Mom is closing in.
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Dec 4, 2017 1:11 AM

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Guys the sword with blood in the end is not the same one with oven it's thinner

I bet this is another swordman...
Dec 4, 2017 9:58 PM

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how in the hell the death of a ugly and stupid secondary character makes me sad...

and hell yea an anphibius ship tank
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how in the hell the death of a ugly and stupid secondary character makes me sad...

and hell yea an anphibius ship tank


Your not sad because he died. Your sad like many others because of how he died. These same ugly characters seem to have had it the worse in One piece. Pound never got a chance to love his daughters or even hold them once in his arms. Banished to live in forest by his wife while being tormented by her children. Only got to see one of his children and that same child hadn't the faintest clue who he was and will never know from the looks of it. Only his grandchild knew someone who loves him just died and will have no memory of it as he gets older. So yeah its pretty sad.
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Pound was a real man's man.
Dec 5, 2017 2:02 PM

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well.. that was a sad (yet heroic) death. RIP!
Dec 5, 2017 10:05 PM

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Damn, Pez and Pound got me. T_T
Dec 11, 2017 11:28 AM

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thebrentinator24 said:
I'm pretty sure Pound isn't dead, we didn't see a body (that's also the reason why i believe Pedro isn't dead yet). However, until that's confirmed, I'll admit his final moments were quite emotional. He truly loved his daughters even though he never met them.


i think Pedro is definitely dead but this guy may still be alive. There is a chance Oven didn't even want to kill him since to a certain degree he is family.

Can't wait to see what happens with the moon and shit. That will probably save them. Carrot turning into a super monster maybe.
Feb 20, 2018 7:49 PM

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damn... that was pretty sad
At least Pound got to see his grandson
May 18, 2018 7:48 AM

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That's sad, Pound saved them and they don't even know who he was.
Sep 23, 2018 9:19 PM

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Poor guy, he did everything he could for his daughter's sake :((
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Regardless of whether Pound is dead or not, Big Mom is now even more of an asshole in my view.




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