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Aug 16, 2014 4:26 AM
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Wow, I found the style of this episode to be quite creative.

There's a lot exposition in this episode as well and talk about justice. The little story was interesting though. Poor Numachi Rouka and that incident 3 years ago. And of course, she is a collector of misfortune. Good to see Kanbaru's arm doing better. I like that running scene though with the OST.

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Aug 16, 2014 4:37 AM
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Numachi is collecting other people's misfortune, as well as the devil's parts. She took the devil's arm that Kanbaru had and has a devil's leg.
Shaft animated a basketball match.. Honestly not sure if I liked it lol. The kiss was pretty nice though, and the background art looked great.
MillsAug 16, 2014 5:27 AM
Aug 18, 2014 8:35 PM
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Nisio sure likes to talk about serious shit in an unortodox way
Aug 18, 2014 11:06 PM
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subs? pfft
I am still wondering why people (the readers) claimed this arc is the worst arc...?
Sure it has its gloomy moments but hey, this is still better than owarimonogatari 2. That was pure let down for me
Aug 18, 2014 11:43 PM
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I would like to learn that technique to extract demons through breast grasping lol

But, I liked this episode, it was very "mysterious" and maybe she can be a kind person, but for the moment I have a bad feeling about Numachi and her "kindness" by taking Kanbaru's arm.
Aug 19, 2014 7:39 AM
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mugi said:
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This is in my opinion, one of the best written stories in the series. The people who don't like it are probably complaining about the contents of the story itself, or rather the lack of sense of danger. And maybe the anticlimcatic problem solving? But hey, it's Monogatari, it's not like 70% of the series isn't like that. I would say that Karen Bee, some parts of Bake and Onimonogatari might be some of the "worst".

Also, welcome back.


Yeah, me too, thinks that this arc is one of the best written stories in SS (though I only manage to read the book up to chapter 5 only).
It deserves better judgement from the readers too. Isn't the anticlimactic stuff Nisio's way of doing his stuff since Zaregoto? People needs to learn to tackle anticlimactic plot when it comes to Nisio's works, I guess.
Aug 20, 2014 2:32 AM
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WHY IS ROUKA USING A CRANE IF SHE CAN WALK?

Rouka, explaining her past in this episode is really voice actor worthy. The match was good tho.
The world shall know the truth soon.
Aug 20, 2014 5:55 AM
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Rouka got some sad stuff behind her. :(

Suruga should just move from that devil monkey arm or w/e it is.
Aug 20, 2014 8:16 AM
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Kanbaru no Basket xD
Yuri time!!!

Woah.. This episode just so deep
1. Entrusting your problem with someone else
2. Lie to him/her that you'll solve his/her problems
3. Wait
4. ???
5. Profit
xD

SweetCoconut said:
WHY IS ROUKA USING A CRANE IF SHE CAN WALK?

Well, there's no one prohibit her from not using one right? xD

From her story.. I think she did lost her left leg's function
She lost it suddenly and get it back suddenly?
Nope, better let it like that... It's better that no one know that I had a devil's leg
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Aug 20, 2014 7:16 PM

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SweetCoconut said:
WHY IS ROUKA USING A CRANE IF SHE CAN WALK?
well I doubt it'll look any better if she'd just casually use her heavily bandaged leg like a normal leg.
Aug 20, 2014 8:36 PM

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That sneaky Rouka. Almost misled me into thinking she'd kiss Kanbaru lip to lip. I love those floating basketballs. They make a good background.
Aug 20, 2014 9:12 PM

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PrimeX said:
SweetCoconut said:
WHY IS ROUKA USING A CRANE IF SHE CAN WALK?
well I doubt it'll look any better if she'd just casually use her heavily bandaged leg like a normal leg.
she can hide it with some sort of,Shoes?its different from hand,do you guys see the bare leg of your friends' ?

Floating balls and the 1v1 was nice,and that kiss...Kanbaru was expectng more :I
Aug 21, 2014 6:21 PM

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Damn I wish that they would have Kissed.

The basketball game was good. Kanbaru a little rusty or Rouka is to good. That arm and leg of hers looks crazy. I wonder what the other part is. Rouka had it bad back in the day. The way she became a collector is crazy but at the same time not. Now time to hear the rest of the story.

The floating basketballs are a wonderful edition.
Aug 22, 2014 10:08 AM

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well i just think she should have accepted that kiss :3
Aug 22, 2014 1:45 PM
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I must admit I was disappointed at the lack of kissing. But I suppose Kanbaru's first kiss should be to a better woman than Rouka.

The soundtrack was very good in creating a creepy atmosphere.
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Aug 22, 2014 2:26 PM

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Quite interesting episode once more, really great development and dat tempting yuri scene was nice!
Aug 23, 2014 8:55 AM

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Noooooo, I wanted that kiss damn it!

The floating basketballs were great. Rouka kind of scares me to be honest. She seems um.... mean...
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Aug 29, 2014 4:37 PM

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Numachi was such a mast3r tr0ll when she kissed Sugura on the cheek. Though, I totally dig NumachixKanbaru now xD

Mmm, for now, Numachi case is pretty classical. Just someone who get her spirit back by feeding on other's despair. That's the case of almost every humans. We all go through this fphase at some point. Look, just the fact that the people who normally avoided her and hated her started to visit her at the hospital. They came to see her misfortune, a childish revenge.

Numachi said something that made me curious. She said ''that hand have never been yours, she belonged to your mother before''. Why was Sugura mom possessing this? Who was she in fact? Was she an expert like Oshino or Araragi?

Anyway, now Numachi is getting in the thick part of her story. This is gonna be good :)
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Sep 6, 2014 8:54 PM

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Shaft really showed off its creativity from a heavy dialogue episode. And I don't mind it at all.


Time to come clean, I admit that I was trolled by what was going on here. I raged after finding out what happened a few seconds later.
<_<

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Sep 13, 2014 11:47 AM

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I am the only one who disliked it? for the first time in monogatari series, I must say that... IT WAS SO BORING. Seriously... After amazing second season which I gave 10, this is just nothing special, I hope that it will get better in next 2 episodes.
I liked second epidose, I'm glad thad Kaiki is alive, but like I said - this one is the first epidose in all monogatari series that bored me.
2/5
rsc-plSep 13, 2014 11:53 AM
Dub = fake crap. Always.
Oct 18, 2014 5:44 PM

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Meh, this one was quite boring.

Nov 29, 2014 3:38 AM

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I actually enjoyed Rouka's kiss teasing scene with Suruga... been a while since she was on the receiving end of a prank again.

So, it was as I suspected... Rouka's leg was fused with a devil's leg, just like how Suruga's arm used to be. Damn, girl. That was a really long story. She's not even done telling it yet.
Apr 4, 2015 2:52 PM

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Heavy dialogue episode and still was intriguing have a feeling the next one will be too. Not too impressed by Hanamonogatari and i'm not dissapointed either.
Aug 30, 2015 4:54 PM

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If I had one hour left to live, I would spend it watching Monogatari because it feels like an eternity.

1/5
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Sep 19, 2015 3:13 AM

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Sure it looks good but damn is it boring. I honestly do not care what they are talking about. Sooooo melodramatic about insignificant things.
Jun 17, 2016 5:54 PM

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Was I the only one who thought that Numachi Rouka is just showing her the reflection of Kanbaru herself?

The joy of pleasure to hear that someone else has even worse problems than you is actually inherent to all people, it's nothing special. It's what keeps you going after bad things happen to you. And people often forget the bad things, remembering only the good ones. Numachi Rouka is actually pretty normal girl, she just doesn't feel she belongs into this world.

Ultimately, it seemed to me that she is just afraid to admit she actually likes helping people. She just find herself a reason how she can live without her talent.

Still, I wonder what's this 'collecting the devil' business means. Does she actually wants to find parts of herself? I bet Kanbaru's wish actually affected her too back then. She really likes and cares about Kanbaru. I bet she actually tried to drive her away to prevent hurting her.

Or... she is a person like Kirei. Outcast from the human society who enjoys things no real human should have. Kotomine Kirei who tries to find meaning of his existence in this world.

Ray_Light said:
SweetCoconut said:
WHY IS ROUKA USING A CRANE IF SHE CAN WALK?

For the same reason Kanbaru stopped running and started playing basketball.
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Sep 26, 2016 2:38 PM

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Well so far I'm not feeling this season at all and I love Monogatari usually. I just don't care for that basketball chick...
Nov 16, 2016 11:08 PM

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Numachi sadist confirmed?
Nov 25, 2016 6:38 AM

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Nice story behind her motive.
Dec 4, 2016 8:29 PM

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Dang character development flowing through my veins :0
Dec 10, 2016 1:28 AM

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Oh snap Rouka stole the devil arm...this is getting interesting.
Mar 19, 2017 8:43 AM

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This isn't interesting and totally boring compared to the previous season. Well theres two more eps left so I guess its a bit too soon to judge it.
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Sorry I Planing on Watching these Anime
I a tittle confused about Hanamonogatari,
Is that a second season from some another anime?
Or it was the 1st season?

Cause I see from MAL info state that:
Synonyms: Monogatari Series: Second Season +α

So what is the 1st Season of these Anime?
Aug 31, 2017 12:36 AM

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The reason I put of watching for so long.. this story is really boring to me.
Love the balls animation thought they're good lmao.
Apr 30, 2018 9:15 PM

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Yuri kiss?
This can't be Monogatari if you aren't teasing the audience like this.
Aug 9, 2018 7:24 AM

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This was a pretty damn intense episode!
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Sep 13, 2018 12:38 PM

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...A bit boring, but... It's Monogatari!

4/5
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May 2, 2019 8:59 AM
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Huh, interesting, not sure how hearing others' misery she gets satisfied...when I listen to other people's problems I feel bothered, since I can't label their problem as a "problem." Good episode though.
May 20, 2019 2:29 PM

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It's still vague how she can steal the devil's part from Suruga. For now what I know is by touching the owner of the devil part.

Strictly speaking, she's not 'collecting' misery, cuz she doesn't hear them earnestly and forget it eventually.
He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame.
Jun 8, 2019 2:05 PM
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Saw a comment about someone saying that Rouka removed the Monkey's Paw through breast groping... he's a prophet
Jul 30, 2019 12:56 AM

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Aesthetic background but way too much dialogue like in episode 1. All the talking didn't even answered what everyone is wondering.
Also I want more Kaiki.
Feb 17, 2020 2:54 PM

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Gorgeous scenes for wallpapers, the girl's story is interesting, great OP and basketball match.
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Sep 1, 2020 9:21 PM

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I must be a monogatari fanboy or something since i’m in the minority here for enjoying this episode.
Sep 9, 2020 10:48 PM
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the girl talking about misery and listening to others is extremely relatable. its kinda like how you feel better when you bomb a test and you see your friends also bomb the test and you feel relieved from tht
Sep 17, 2020 7:09 PM

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The animation was pretty good I liked how they put a basketball game tbh I actually didn't like the basketball scene on my opinion.

It was an ok episode it was just full of Kanbaru talking to Numachi and telling her story about how she lost her leg it was nothing special but I enjoyed it (°-°)
Oct 4, 2020 9:47 AM

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Oooo backstory time. Really liking Rouka more now cause of her backstory. Never thought the idea of collecting misery would sound so interesting.

Also thought this was gonna turn into a basketball anime for a sec there lol. Great animation for that 1v1.
Nov 30, 2020 10:04 AM
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This makes me want to play basketball again, lol
Mar 1, 2021 6:44 AM

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Great episode, damn props to Rouka's va, she spoke a fuck ton this episode lmao. Honestly was hard to keep up, I had to pause and stuff from time to time. Rouka's pretty interesting, how was she able to take the monkey's paws though just from fondling Kanbaru's breasts lmao.

The basketball game was nice. So, the reason Rouka plays defense is so she won't stand out damn, she must be hella good if she plays defense and offense. The visuals with the basketballs at the end was pretty cool.
Mar 31, 2021 11:22 AM

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Interesting to know more about Numachi. I should have suspected she had taken her left arm and used it for her use. She is a strange woman, but it's easy to understand why she wants to listen to others. Psychologically speaking, it may make her feel a little better seeing other people miserable as her. But I guess once their wishes come true, it must have been frustrating that she was the only one who was still suffering. I feel like the other devil inside her have something to do with her "client"' wishes coming true.

Next ep. is going to be interesting to watch.
Mar 31, 2021 11:25 AM

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snowykevin said:
I must be a monogatari fanboy or something since I’m in the minority here for enjoying this episode.


You are not the only one, pal. :)
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