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Oct 27, 2022 2:24 PM

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I'd say anime is for everyone and we all enjoy it
Oct 27, 2022 2:26 PM

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I show them this

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Oct 27, 2022 2:29 PM

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"Don't say something is for children if wouldn't show it to your own child."

No, it doesn't bother me.


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Oct 27, 2022 2:52 PM

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Best course of action is to sit them down and force them to watch the entirety of "Cowboy Bebop."
Oct 27, 2022 3:25 PM

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There's only one proper way: Agree, and then recommend them an anime filled with gore or sex to show their children.
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Oct 27, 2022 3:36 PM

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MrSpenfo said:
There's only one proper way: Agree, and then recommend them an anime filled with gore or sex to show their children.


This is the only right answer. Be like yeah sure anime is for kids. Have them watch Made in Abyss or something. I know some parents took their children to the Made in Abyss movies and walked out fairly angry. Sometimes people just are not that smart.
Oct 27, 2022 3:37 PM

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I shake my head up and down in hearty agreement.

I must say I always find it funny how people think gore and sex automatically classify something as for "adults", as if Gantz wasn't the first manga/anime a lot of people came into contact in their 12~15yo. I guess that's what you get when you publish Tokyo Ghoul in a seinen magazine.
Oct 27, 2022 4:04 PM

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Satyr_icon said:
I shake my head up and down in hearty agreement.

I must say I always find it funny how people think gore and sex automatically classify something as for "adults", as if Gantz wasn't the first manga/anime a lot of people came into contact in their 12~15yo. I guess that's what you get when you publish Tokyo Ghoul in a seinen magazine.

Yeah, both Gantz and Tokyo Ghoul are rated R, literally meaning that their target audience is adults, so I really don't see the point you're trying to make. Also, if sex isn't automatically classifying something as "for adults" then why do you have to (legally) be 18+ to watch pornography? Just because teenagers also watch something that has gore or sex in it, doesn't mean that they are its target audience.
If you really think I'm wrong, make something chocked full of gore and sex, and then go on the street trying to sell it to "12~15yo". See how long it takes you to get arrested.
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Oct 27, 2022 4:10 PM
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Frankly, I don't care. I'd imagine most people have something else to worry about.
Oct 27, 2022 4:16 PM

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MrSpenfo said:

Yeah, both Gantz and Tokyo Ghoul are rated R, literally meaning that their target audience is adults, so I really don't see the point you're trying to make. Also, if sex isn't automatically classifying something as "for adults" then why do you have to (legally) be 18+ to watch pornography? Just because teenagers also watch something that has gore or sex in it, doesn't mean that they are its target audience.

The fact that you wrote (legally) like that already answer your question. In practice demographics are merely a suggestion, it doesn't always reflect reality.
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If you really think I'm wrong, make something chocked full of gore and sex, and then go on the street trying to sell it to "12~15yo". See how long it takes you to get arrested.

Devilman was published in a shounen magazine.
Yeah, I think you're wrong.
Oct 27, 2022 4:20 PM

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convince them to watch monster, or vinland saga.

if they are too impatient just show them the first few chapters of berserk.

and no I don't get angry. Because they are objectively wrong, and the only ones who would say it are the ones who have no idea what they are talking about.
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Oct 27, 2022 4:40 PM
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I think anime/cartoons are enjoyable for many audiences. I think some seinen are if you take out the smoking/drinking and certain elements is easily a kids show even if set in a job (say an office show) because the tone can be just as anime like consistent. Dark kids shows exist for Cartoon Network/Nick.

I either give up because not in the mood to explain it.

Or go about it saying it's like western live action but animated, like office shows, superheroes, ET/Narnia when referring to Isekai shows (whenever see footage of Forspoken because it's an Isekai and presents it self in the most who cares without truck-kun way of an isekai, the game seems fine the isekai element is just whatever Japan your break into the west with Isekai is dumb, it sticks out like a sore thumb), whatever I can relate to the situation that they are familiar with. Never needed to bring up horror or blood violent shows or anything at all. Never need to bring up fan service either because it's pretty common knowledge.

I mean I think some mature game adaptations get themselves right like Witcher, Halo or Cyberpunk (not seen Edgerunners yet). Something recognisable is easier than explaining something they don't have the patience for or it's hard to explain.

I always have New Game in mind when watching the Apple TV+ Raven's Banquet, I never bring it up but it's always there in mind for me (I forget the show's name so much title and subtitle XD that and I find the content to be eh compared to New Game, MMO updates and 'The Office' like moments only goes so far for me across 2 seasons with season 3 coming).

I mean it's like saying adult cartoons don't exist first thing I'll say is 'try looking up Fritz the Cat' (the first R and X related animated films or something along those lines). Or bring up the obvious of the Family Guy, and other adult sitcoms that exist.

In some cases I try to avoid what happened when trying to watch the Starship Troopers anime the early scenes with the fan service, I watched the Witcher anime and said it had none of that but still some people just are weird about artstyle or content. I enjoyed watching it but at the same time I wasn't fussy either way.

To me 'the gaming/anime is for children' stance is how I feel about the Mass Effect news report in 2007, the gamer can't say what they want and are on fair terms, the ones making the narrative have control and they shut you out because they don't really care so why bother having them on anyway (or the parent looks stupid complaining about violent video games, doesn't see the ratings, wants to look like a hero but looks like an idiot on the news which is always hilarious to see the stupidity of that in the time it took them to not notice before being on the news to think "oh I'm the parent, I bought the games, blame the companies") if they have their head in the clouds.

The 'I don't understand this, I don't want to understand this, I think it's like the 80s (in the case of video games being more simple when they have evolved)/what they saw as a kid and 'grew past animation' even if it's years later (and things have changed across mediums in accessible tones and content or just as restricted it depends), I can't have a outside the norm mindset/opinion because that's too hard I can't think for myself and separate what I've already been told even with no knowledge at all about it" it's just laughable more than anything like the expert isn't the genius and the one that's not just makes excuses over and over no interest or even understanding of the tropes at all but says they do even though you can get them to lose easily.

Even critics of things can't separate emotion from what actually works apparently and what something is 'actually' intended for.

I mean playing games that are apparently basic and cinematic is fine over actual gameplay because easy to breeze through. Then again when a large percentage of the audience could be 'I play COD and whatever sport I'm into' (because other things are too creative/too much outside regular world rules for them to want to dive in) yeah I can see why compared to those more into the medium as a kid/other types and stuck with games or anime or the same music artists or movies/TV shows live action or animated and move on or not IRL responsibilities or not.

Mentioning Hentai is never a worthy idea obviously but when your into gaming and trying not to talk about Japanese niche games then yeah. JRPGs sure but your GalGun, Senran Kagura and such to just eroges in general, censorship or not yeah I always leave those out no need to bring them up. Only the niche JRPGs.
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Oct 27, 2022 5:00 PM

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Satyr_icon said:
MrSpenfo said:

Yeah, both Gantz and Tokyo Ghoul are rated R, literally meaning that their target audience is adults, so I really don't see the point you're trying to make. Also, if sex isn't automatically classifying something as "for adults" then why do you have to (legally) be 18+ to watch pornography? Just because teenagers also watch something that has gore or sex in it, doesn't mean that they are its target audience.

The fact that you wrote (legally) like that already answer your question. In practice demographics are merely a suggestion, it doesn't always reflect reality.
MrSpenfo said:

If you really think I'm wrong, make something chocked full of gore and sex, and then go on the street trying to sell it to "12~15yo". See how long it takes you to get arrested.

Devilman was published in a shounen magazine.
Yeah, I think you're wrong.

I know? That's why I fucking said, "Just because teenagers also watch something that has gore or sex in it, doesn't mean that they are its target audience." Implying that people, yes, of course there is always a percentage of viewers who are not apart of a target audience. There is an entire demographic of weird old men who watch MLP after all. However, if you try to tell me that more teenagers are consuming porn than legal adults, I'm going to laugh in your face.

I haven't read the manga, but if you look at the tags on the manga on this site, neither gore nor anything sexual is stated, the worst genre mentioned is horror. Additionally, the anime adaptations do NOT have the shounen tag on them, and they are rated R, so I really don't see the argument that you are trying to make. Also, I feel like you forget that the way people behave by age group changes over time (for example a couple centuries ago, it was common for 13yos to be getting married), so I really don't think picking a manga that is 50 yrs old makes for a very strong argument.
Yeah, I think you're wrong too.
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Oct 27, 2022 5:24 PM
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I do not answer anymore. Ignorance is a blessing.
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Oct 27, 2022 5:29 PM
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gamerweeb1 said:
And do you get pissed off when people say that?


Show them first episode of Psycho Pass/Attack on Titan/Cyberpunk Edgerunners and many more such mature themed anime lmao XD
Oct 27, 2022 5:31 PM

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Do you people still care about this?
Oct 27, 2022 5:48 PM

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I don't see a need to be insecure about that, being an adult is not about liking things it's about doing what you want
(As long as its legal) and having the disposable income to do so, you just have to make sure your bills are paid and you're golden, besides only children want to grow up.
Oct 27, 2022 6:03 PM

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I really don't care. People have their own opinion and are entitled to it.
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Oct 27, 2022 6:10 PM

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I just give them an eyelid pull taunt:


Oct 27, 2022 6:14 PM

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I'd say children are getting a damn good deal then.
Oct 27, 2022 6:17 PM

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Who yall even arguing with? No way there are still people nowadays using that insult/opinion since anime has become mainstream
Oct 27, 2022 9:47 PM

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I say "let's agree to disagree". But before leaving, I'd recommend them some "children's anime", for them to check and see if they'd be willing to let their kids, watch them.
Oct 28, 2022 8:01 AM

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ateks said:
Deathko said:
Why would I? 95% of anime is made for (men)children, that's a fact. And it's honestly not getting better as decades go. I can show a fair amount of 80s stupid shows to my dad and he'll enjoy them, but I'm not putting any trash 2020s isekai anywhere near his 60yo eyes lmao.

edit: I feel like I should mention that I am watching anime because it's the last animation industry taht spits SOME products aimed at adults (and I'm not talking about hentai), so take my comment with a grain of salt.

You shouldn't put any of your trash taste favorites near his eyes either.

Yeah I should feed him the garbage eroticized lolis that make up 100% of your fav characters lmao.
Oct 28, 2022 8:09 AM

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Actually nobody ever said that to me.
But if someone do I'll probably ignore their opinion and try to change the topic.
Hope to find that distinct person.
Oct 28, 2022 9:05 AM

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I know this is off topic, but I have never actually heard someone say that
Oct 28, 2022 9:13 AM
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Well, he wouldnt be wrong if he says it !
Oct 28, 2022 9:22 AM

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samsince04 said:
I show them this


Wolf children is actually a decent choice. The rest not so much.
Oct 28, 2022 10:18 AM

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I would tell them to watch Death Note
Oct 28, 2022 10:30 AM

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I would just agree and show them my beyblade collection.
Oct 28, 2022 10:49 AM

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Nobody really said it to my face, and I think I would not react. I honestly don't care.
I mean, I am 19, it's not like once you turn 18 you must stop doing what you enjoy if it doesn't hurt anyone, right?

My parents usually laugh at me 'cuz I regularly buy Amazing Spider-Man comics and from time to time some manga, but I just say "Well yes, I'm a kid".
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Oct 28, 2022 11:00 AM
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I tend to ignore them, that's it. There's no reason to argue with a dumb person
Oct 28, 2022 1:09 PM

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I've never heard anyone say that, and I don't feel see the point in imagining a made-up scenario to argue against.
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Oct 28, 2022 1:39 PM

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Hm? They obviously do not know what they're talking about^^
Laugh for a bit, then just ignore them.
Oct 28, 2022 1:46 PM

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I don't really care? People who care about such things just need the insert CS Lewis quote. Caring about whether something is mature or immature is the height of immaturity.

Regardless of what some people might think what is true is from the 70s to now it has largely been a YA targeted industry. That hasn't really changed regardless of some fantasizing that anime back in the day was super mature it never really has been. Even for stories that are designated that way many seinen/josei titles still feel YA for me and even those I could say are adult aren't some massively insightful works. Not for kids but this has never been a medium aimed at adults either. I like YA media though so I still enjoy anime. To some degree I would argue you do need to enjoy YA forms of storytelling for this to be a long time hobby.

The amount of actual anime I could say yeah this is aimed at adults is tiny. Honestly the amount of current anime made for kids is also funny enough tiny. Most of it is what I would define as YA or New Adult (YA like fiction often aimed at adults). So if I was being pedantic ass (which I often am) I would just correct them to say nah it's YA but I would never say anime is really a largely adult targeted industry.
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Oct 28, 2022 3:36 PM

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br2nk0 said:
It's like western animation, there is anime that's meant for kids and meant for adults.

Exactly, what anime and western animation have in common is numerous series aimed at children and adults.


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Oct 28, 2022 3:52 PM

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Just ignore idiots like that, they're not worth your time.
Oct 28, 2022 4:00 PM

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By showing them hentai porn or extremely gory anime.

Oct 28, 2022 4:56 PM

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MarkVijet said:
I would tell them to watch Death Note

Back when that anime was still relevant, anime fans told everyone to watch Death Note, regardless of age.
Oct 28, 2022 5:04 PM

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Why should I care what other people think about anime? That's all there is to it as long as I get to enjoy my hobby. If they're just trying to provoke you, there's no need to respond to their taunts.
Oct 28, 2022 5:25 PM

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I'd wonder if they watch any cartoons/animated series since that too would be considered "for children".
Oh, there's some that's for adults? Some that show heavy stuff, have darker humor and/or requires a more fully developed brain to fully comprehend?

Wow, that sure sounds familiar!
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Oct 28, 2022 5:54 PM

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If you count anyone under 18 as a child, then yes, most anime is for children
Oct 28, 2022 6:34 PM
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Yeah it is definitely annoying when someone who knows nothing about anime looks at the animation and negatively judges it straight away. For me, the animation was the main thing that drew me to anime to begin with lmao. But once they watch a show like death note for example they'll realise its a lot more complex and fulfilling than a standard cartoon or regular TV show.
Oct 28, 2022 8:06 PM

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its simple i will respond to them with this



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Oct 28, 2022 10:04 PM

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I've still never heard anyone say this in my life. I guess I'll let you know what I say if I see this mythical person who believes it though.
Oct 28, 2022 10:05 PM

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Show them Prison School like I did with one of my friends in real life for their first anime when we saw it on the bus together and he was curious about why I was watching anime, something that he assumed was for kids. He definitely had his view expanded a bit to say the least by the end, and maybe a little bit weirded out by the whole thing as well in the end. At least we both laughed our ass off at it so he did enjoy it.
Oct 28, 2022 10:10 PM

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I show them the very first scene of Parasyte the Maxim.
Oct 29, 2022 12:53 AM
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I’ve seen only like 3-4 people in my life saying that other than people mocking it so I don’t know what to say.
Oct 29, 2022 12:59 AM

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Ryuseishun said:
I show them the very first scene of Parasyte the Maxim.

Kids will love that, they want to look mature, and they still have the misconception of edgy being mature.
Oct 29, 2022 1:04 AM

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You know if they're saying that, they're just trying to get to you or are ignorant, either way, it's not worth wasting your energy.
Oct 29, 2022 1:18 AM
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I give them facts such as 45% of all anime titles are actually made for children, not 95% like many of the misinformed people like to say. The rest are made for teens and adults. This is going by demographic tags of all the anime listed up here. Also, according to the International Anime Research Project, 73% of anime fans are men, but that's based off people who attend anime cons but data from, Crunchyroll also supports that.

I'd also name the many famous people who also watch and enjoy anime before finally simply insulting them.
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