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kingaron3 said: RobertBobert said: Considering how most here seem to be completely satisfied as the target audience, I'm still wondering why Sono Bisque Doll has a much higher rating. These are trifles. Given the author's excessive love for aesthetics and fetishes, some moments of their friendship will look ... to put it mildly, a little too "idealized". I'd say it's not as popular because it's a CGDCT show and most of the fan service isn't overt and in your face like something like Sono Bisque Doll. CGDCT aren't extremally popular on mal especially those that don't even have a plot to speak of. Beside from what I can tell the manga isn't very popular in the west in the first in the first place. Plus it makes some people very uncomfortable. I could say some "but" about the fanservice, but I already thank you for the more or less reasoned answer and the attempt to make it overly personal like the dude above. Thank you. We talked less about popularity than about why people don't seem to give Akebi the same high ratings, although the audience seems to be quite happy with the discussion. Therefore, I concluded that people play a role here, that they give marks without watching the show. |
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| This show is unbearably beautiful... |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
RioFS said: Listening to the 8-D ED while wearing headphones feels amazing. Also, that floor had some crazy animation going behind it. It is made out of ...... a floor. Looks real asf.  Not just that floor either. This episode had more beautifully rendered floors than most shows get in their entire run. |
| Quantum ille canis est in fenestra |
whiteluciferz said: This show is missing something. Is just those happy girls living their lives? and also acting like kids when they actualy are 15yo? No story conflict? No drama? The visual is amazing, but its just it until now. I will roblably drop on the next ep. Dude it's an Sol about a girl wanting to make friends at school what on earth else were you expecting? |
| Yuri vibes are intense in this anime |
| Gonna be honest here, if i see reviews at the end going like "oh Akebi and others are loud and annoying etc" they're kids, kids are loud and annoying, please get better at doing reviews |
| A little cringe at times, not gonna lie, but otherwise pretty wholesome again. The script seems a little strange at times I must say. |
| This looks amazing I’m loving every second of it so cute and wholesome even tho this season is mad stacked this is one of my favorite definitely csnt wait for next week |
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| Things you love to see, Cloverworks still smashing it with the production value. So many details to look at and the bit surprised me was the quality of the school floor. Komichi making friends on the first day already, after Erika she managed to drag in 2 others by her energetic, yet quirky personality, but unlike Komichi, it will definitely take me 2 more episodes before I remembered their names. Komichi is definitly a bit gullible. Finally got to see Komichi's dad and he seems like a chill dude, he has one hectic work shedule though, the poor soul. Kao is once again one of the best little sister I've seen in recent times. |
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RobertBobert said: FMmatron said: They're appreciated, but not as much as Sono Bisque Doll. That's what I observed. You still haven't accounted for the self insert MC as relatbable element which could be the difference, so no point in adressing your point. Especially not with implications like that >it's still can't be pandering to the male audience unless it's done too blatantly? Once again. I didn't say that an anime with cute girls can't pander to guys. So you're saying that this show is rated higher than Akebi solely or at least primarily because of selfinsert and fanservice? Did I understand you correctly? Doesn't this show have charismatic and well developed characters or an interesting plot that could also draw people to the show well? You yourself gave this show the same rating as Akebi, do you really mean that it could attract people just by that? And of course, people could give Akebi lower ratings without watching the show, but that certainly couldn't happen to Doll? So it's based on your observations? In those cases, could you give me an example where a similar romcom is rated higher just for fanservice and self-serting compared to a quality CGDCT that aired at a close time? Yes, you didn't. But you've been so hard on the idea that the Doll is a fan service show for boys that it's like it completely excluded Akebi from the same category. It's like saying that Star Wars is more popular than Star Trek because it's a show about space. You immediately get "But Star Trek is in space too", right? Akebi also got charismatic characters and a nice looking production. I'm looking for differences to explain why Sono Bisque Doll got a much higher rating aside from the fact that Akebi is more of a cute girls show, which aren't that highly rated on average. Last week I had Akebi at a 6 and Sono at a 7, my ratings can always change. But what I personally value shouldn't matter. I didn't like the fanservice as much, while others were going crazy over Marin. Downvoting? Are you for real. You read my previous reply and know what observation I was referring to. I mentioned not just than fanservice, explained the difference and how the other elements come into play. The problem is that you try to read far too much into what I've been saying. |
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FMmatron said: RobertBobert said: So you're saying that this show is rated higher than Akebi solely or at least primarily because of selfinsert and fanservice? Did I understand you correctly? Doesn't this show have charismatic and well developed characters or an interesting plot that could also draw people to the show well? You yourself gave this show the same rating as Akebi, do you really mean that it could attract people just by that? And of course, people could give Akebi lower ratings without watching the show, but that certainly couldn't happen to Doll? So it's based on your observations? In those cases, could you give me an example where a similar romcom is rated higher just for fanservice and self-serting compared to a quality CGDCT that aired at a close time? Yes, you didn't. But you've been so hard on the idea that the Doll is a fan service show for boys that it's like it completely excluded Akebi from the same category. It's like saying that Star Wars is more popular than Star Trek because it's a show about space. You immediately get "But Star Trek is in space too", right? Akebi also got charismatic characters and a nice looking production. I'm looking for differences to explain why Sono Bisque Doll got a much higher rating aside from the fact that Akebi is more of a cute girls show, which aren't that highly rated on average. Last week I had Akebi at a 6 and Sono at a 7, my ratings can always change. But what I personally value shouldn't matter. I didn't like the fanservice as much, while others were going crazy over Marin. Downvoting? Are you for real. You read my previous reply and know what observation I was referring to. I mentioned not just than fanservice, explained the difference and how the other elements come into play. The problem is that you try to read far too much into what I've been saying. And I have repeatedly answered you why I consider this erroneous and oversimplified. No, seriously, do you really want to bring this shit up again after a few hours of all these insults against me on my wall? After all, you yourself will later accuse me of obsession and deny that this is too personal for you. I still get annoyed by your love of seeing disagreeing with you as a bigoted insult, but I don't want this to go around in circles again. |
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| after the first time we see Akebi on her uniform last episode, and the lip scene on this one, I now expect a "particularly amazingly beautiful shot" in every episode nice and wholesome school lunch with new friends... nice family together scenes... yeah, I liked |
| This anime is wholesome and sus at the same time. |
| Art syle really captivated me. Akebi's so precious. I still can't believe this is rated only 7 below by people. This is one of the shows that'll stand out this Winter 2022. |
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RobertBobert said: FMmatron said: Akebi also got charismatic characters and a nice looking production. I'm looking for differences to explain why Sono Bisque Doll got a much higher rating aside from the fact that Akebi is more of a cute girls show, which aren't that highly rated on average. Last week I had Akebi at a 6 and Sono at a 7, my ratings can always change. But what I personally value shouldn't matter. I didn't like the fanservice as much, while others were going crazy over Marin. Downvoting? Are you for real. You read my previous reply and know what observation I was referring to. I mentioned not just than fanservice, explained the difference and how the other elements come into play. The problem is that you try to read far too much into what I've been saying. And I have repeatedly answered you why I consider this erroneous and oversimplified. No, seriously, do you really want to bring this shit up again after a few hours of all these insults against me on my wall? After all, you yourself will later accuse me of obsession and deny that this is too personal for you. I still get annoyed by your love of seeing disagreeing with you as a bigoted insult, but I don't want this to go around in circles again. Engaging my points with sound arguments as to why they don't hold up/dismantling them would be more convincing than misinterpreting what I said or going off topic by bringing up irrelevant stuff. That's how discussion usually works and the best way to prevent things getting out of hand. But if you want to know it, I get way too many notifications that's why I get back to some later. And lol, no one forced you to start posting on wall in the first place. It's pretty underhanded to come at me with petty shots like that. Deal with the consequences of your actions instead. |
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FMmatron said: RobertBobert said: And I have repeatedly answered you why I consider this erroneous and oversimplified. No, seriously, do you really want to bring this shit up again after a few hours of all these insults against me on my wall? After all, you yourself will later accuse me of obsession and deny that this is too personal for you. I still get annoyed by your love of seeing disagreeing with you as a bigoted insult, but I don't want this to go around in circles again. Engaging my points with sound arguments as to why they don't hold up/dismantling them would be more convincing than misinterpreting what I said or going off topic by bringing up irrelevant stuff. That's how discussion usually works and the best way to prevent things getting out of hand. But if you want to know it, I get way too many notifications that's why I get back to some later. And lol, no one forced you to start posting on wall in the first place. It's pretty underhanded to come at me with petty shots like that. Deal with the consequences of your actions instead. Ah, I forgot that when you bully me or openly call me mentally ill, it's all my fault, sorry. Well, okay, so I really still have to tell the moderators that I tried to somehow stop this, but you don’t want to. |
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anirudhtsuki said: RobertBobert said: Quiet Simple Watson, the manga was already very popular even before the airing of the show. And was very well received. Comparing Akebi and Sono is like Apples and Oranges.Considering how most here seem to be completely satisfied as the target audience, I'm still wondering why Sono Bisque Doll has a much higher rating. [ Quite possible. But in this case, we were talking not so much about popularity, but about appreciation. Therefore, I assumed that it was downgraded by people who did not watch the show itself, since seeing a fairly good reception in the discussion, it is difficult for me to explain why it received below 8 from the target audience. |
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anirudhtsuki said: RobertBobert said: this is a SoL. That in itself is a disadvantage. People don't score SoL very high including myself unless the plot is really really good which this isn't. 8 is a really high number in MAL, even most good anime like Restaurant to another world don't reach that high unless there is hype. Which again that show had and this didn't. Sono Bisque Manga has the wish fulfilment factor in it along with a good plot. It doesn't solely rely on fan service to progress the plot and don't have the usual annoyances of the genre like love triangle, stupid misunderstanding, girl don't want to bury you 6 ft under because you accidentally saw their pantries, etc. The manga is no masterpiece but it is quiet good and has a strong following. Quite possible. But in this case, we were talking not so much about popularity, but about appreciation. Therefore, I assumed that it was downgraded by people who did not watch the show itself, since seeing a fairly good reception in the discussion, it is difficult for me to explain why it received below 8 from the target audience. AoT S4 jumped to the #20 only after one episode. Why do you thnk? Because, HYPE. Hype is a key factor. That's why I don't take MAL scores seriously, only at face value. Just because SOL or because of the popular stereotype that such titles are plotless? I often hear complaints that nothing happens on these shows because the normies are usually unaware of who is watching the shows and why (not in a bad sense of the word). I also have a "rule" not to rate some shows above a certain threshold, but this is mostly about chibi shows or shorts and only if I'm not entertained enough. |
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anirudhtsuki said: RobertBobert said: Just in case you misunderstood, in a SoL suckers. I'll watch any SoL anime even if they start of boring. But that doesn't mean I'll score them all. Unless they have "something" or does something locodol final song, all of them are either 6 or 7.Just because SOL or because of the popular stereotype that such titles are plotless? I often hear complaints that nothing happens on these shows because the normies are usually unaware of who is watching the shows and why (not in a bed sense of the word). I also have a "rule" not to rate some shows above a certain threshold, but this is mostly about chibi shows or shorts and only if I'm not entertained enough. I do not know. I often get salty because of some CGDCT or people with a habit of using the word "wholesome" as universal praise, but I have no problem getting high ratings for such shows. For example, Non Non Byory, Gabriel DropOut and Gakkou Gurashi are still some of my favorite and most respected shows. Therefore, knowing the manga and seeing the result, I expected that it would be rated at least not lower than Super Cub. |
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| Definitely loving this show, Akebi’s first day at school was a very flashy one lol, definitely made her first and last impression with that performance. I especially loved the scene where she was talking with the girls at her table during lunch, they all have nice designs and fun personalities, I can see myself really liking them over time. Also that lip scene was an interesting one for sure, she’s really good at that huh lol. And of course Cloverworks flexed in this episode when she was running through the cherry blossoms, looked very very good. And the Dad seems wholesome, I like that. The OP was really good too, great song and visuals. Definitely looking forward to next week. |
| Man, Akebi is so precious and confiding, I hope she doesn't get into many troubles during the season otherwise my heart will crack. |
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| Without seeing her panties like the rest of the class... the ghost thing was pretty funny haha. And then her reaction when Kizaki told her about her panties, poor Akebi xD. Man, the lip balm scene was... wow, absolutely stunning. I feel like Akebi is on her way to making her classmates gay if they aren't already lol. Yuri vibes rising. Probably the biggest surprise of the season for me, I'm loving it. Akebi is so much fun. |
| This anime is way too beautiful for my filthy eyes. I don't feel I deserve to watch it. |
| This show is absolutely so goddamn beautiful. Akebi-chan, My Dress Up Darling and Slow Loop just be blessing our lives with wholesomeness this season. This was only the first day of school right, and Akebi has already collected three girls into her harem, based. They're doing such a fantastic job with the atmosphere and the aesthetics, they had no reason to make it this Godly good, but they did, I only hope the quality stays consistent throughout the season. Really looking forward to the next episode. |
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| This was a nice, chill episode. Just how I like them. Komichi is such a sweet girl, so it is nice to see that she is getting along great with her classmates and made some friends already. Even with that….odd….introduction. Not too much fanservice this episode. Hope it stays that way! I think this anime is really beautiful and does not need fanservice to make it work. The character dynamics seem like they could be fun to watch, and all the girls are cute, so that is enough to carry the show for me. I am excited for episode 3! I hope Komichi invites Erika over so she can meet Kao! |
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billybub said: whiteluciferz said: This show is missing something. Is just those happy girls living their lives? and also acting like kids when they actualy are 15yo? No story conflict? No drama? The visual is amazing, but its just it until now. I will roblably drop on the next ep. Dude it's an Sol about a girl wanting to make friends at school what on earth else were you expecting? Speaking for myself (knowing nothing of the source), I was afraid it might go down the route of her getting bullied. Unlike the other poster, though, I'm happy if it doesn't do that drama; she's adorable, and I'd rather not see her get brought down. |
| I didn't really notice it in the first ep but the wooden floor in the classroom is really well drawn. |
  「 𝕂𝕖𝕪 𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕙𝕚𝕕𝕖𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕗𝕠𝕣𝕔𝕖𝕤 𝕠𝕗 𝕕𝕒𝕣𝕜𝕟𝕖𝕤𝕤, 𝕤𝕙𝕠𝕨 𝕞𝕖 𝕪𝕠𝕦𝕣 𝕥𝕣𝕦𝕖 𝕗𝕠𝕣𝕞 」 |
| such innocence! GUHEHE! 5/5. and yes like others said art style suits and really kirakira! |
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| I can’t get over how beautiful the animation is. |
| This episode was so good man. Serotonin levels restored I started smiling right after the episode began. This anime is the literal embodiment of a cute, wholesome and happy life. I love how they portrayed the school's atmosphere so nicely, everyone was nice, Akebi already made a pretty reliable friend who looks out for Akebi. The animation is truly magnficent, you can get tons of wallpapers from every single episode, I got like 15 from last episode and around 10 from this. The BD version of this is going to be of next level, can't wait to re-watch this when the BD releases. Also Akebi chan is the most wholesome and kawai girl ever. Must protecc. And Kao is too damn precious too, I love how they portray their relatiionship, its like the ideal sibling relationship, I love watching them interact. Some people may not like that they are showing us the scenes of them bathing together but its not because they want to show some "fan-service" they are doing it to show us just how close the sisters are and its doing a good job in showing us. The episode was so enjoyable, couldn't stop smiling for the whole episode. Also the ED is so damn good, just can't get enough of it. We got to see more of smol Akebi too, she's so precious and kawai, all cheerful and happy :D It's nice to see Akebi put so much effort to remember her classmates' names, she's looks so happy after having an amazing day ᵔ ᴥ ᵔ The dad part was done really nicely too, parents can get nervous too afterall. I liked the understanding between them. Akebi chan is runner up for best girl of this season.The competition for best girls this season is tough, let's see who comes out on top. Looking forward to next episode. |
TsutanaiFuunJan 16, 2022 2:38 AM
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| "Mata ashita (See you tomorrow)." It's a very common greeting for the commons. As it seems the school is for the upper classes, I expected the famous greeting I've never used: "Gokigenyou". After a while, I realized that the same Kanji characters are applied for 'ashita' and 'Akebi'. It would be the reason that "Mata ashita" phrase was chosen, I assume. |
| The art is so beautiful <3 Akebi is so cheerful lol She enjoys her life |
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| Awwww my precious little angel Akebi admitted she is in love with another girl, and are now IMO a confirmed lesbian,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES And Kizaki really like it and blushed like crazy when she saw into Akebis skirt hahahaha Did you like what you saw honey,,,,YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES ClowerWorks!! You are doing it again. You are being gay and fabulous! I fucking love it! So much sweet Yuri candy. Some of the fetishes are a bit weird yes. But as long the lesbian love is in the air I don't really care. Great episode and this is now my favorite anime so far this season  |
Yuri-CrusaderJan 16, 2022 7:00 AM
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| The art is beautiful and the production is fantastic. The characters are lively, energetic and the comedy is pretty nice too. Really liking it, I hope they keep it up. |
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| I think I'm already getting used to the faces. This show feels genuine and wholesome. Though I'm still confused about what this show is about? Just random stuff? MC wanting to become an idol? Synopsis says she wants 100 friends, but there's like 10-14 people in every class so it's already impossible. Girls doing cute stuff, I guess? |
| Goddamn it, this show is just so fucking beautiful. Some people might fuck it, because if you just want to have a feel good time watching anime, the show has it and more. Although I find it super fucking cringey when she was introducing herself to the class, it doesn't matter because Akebi is a lovely beast. And of course the highlight of the episode, her scene with her lips, that one was a killer!!! The wallpapers and smiles are rolling with this show, make it more stronger! |
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| The visuals is amazing, and the opening song is so great!!! |
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