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Feb 13, 2015 4:51 AM

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okanagan said:
Another aspect of the animation industry which "Kuromi" addressed well but
which "Shirobako" has (thus far) failed to mention is the risk to health due to
the extremely stressful work. Prior to freshly-graduated "Kuromi" being hired
as the new Production Assistant/Production Desk, the previous person had
been suffering from a very painful bleeding ulcer. The boss instructed him not
to die until a new Production Assistant could be hired. When Kuromi arrived
on the first day, after he explained the job to her, the previous Production
Assistant collapsed in pain and was then rushed away in an ambulance. Upon
meeting Kuromi, one of the existing employees told Kuromi coldly, "Don't die
until we can find a replacement for you."


Miyamori dying when? just kidding I'm actually interested to see this being tackled on the show since we've already seen one of the animation directors lying on the floor coz of over-fatigue. Shame though they don't really touch this subject that often.
Feb 13, 2015 5:54 AM

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Kunogi can talk? I thought that she was mute, or is she extremely shy? Nonetheless, she was super adorable.

Good thing that that girl managed to get it right, would be a little bad if she had to leave.
And the ending, what a big comeback.
Feb 13, 2015 9:21 AM

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Lot's of stuff to keep track of.
Hopefully it all works out.
Feb 13, 2015 11:45 AM

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AaaaaaKun said:
Come here, you little hamster, I'M GONNA PET THE SHIT OUT OF YA!


As if she is not cute enough, that toddler voice of her made her a weapon of mass destruction. She may not be competent, but sure is a sight for sore eye when you stuck in the production hell for 16 hours straight.


Yes! I wanna bring take one home too! Where can I find one!

Miyamori was doing all so well, until that goddamn studio messed it all up! We are now seeing the destructive power of Hiraoka and his Shady Taitanically Destructive Studios, which I shall evermore dub STD Studios. I can't decide whether I hate Hiraoka more for disappearing on the job, introducing such a messed up Studio that does way more harm than good, and practically not appearing to do anything, or Tarou for talking big about everything but the job, and then running away when Miyamori was issuing orders. Hiraoka is starting to take the lead here...

That scene when Yano walked into the room, you could literally paste a brightly lit "Divinity" background and that would probably be what Miyamori was thinking.

Still waiting for Zuka's big break.... hope I don't have to wait till a season 2 for it (though if they really do pull a season 2, I'm then ALL FOR IT).

Oh, and I missed Diesel-san this episode.

Hurry up next week!
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Feb 13, 2015 12:43 PM

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About the last scene where Tarou had been gone already when Miyamori is ready to give him order, is that because he ran away or because he already decided what he need to do? For some reason both are kinda off character for him, or I misread something here?

Looking forward to that OP veteran background guy works, I would definetely watch if PA decided to make the Aerial Squad into an actual anime.
Feb 13, 2015 1:30 PM

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That stress was sure getting to Miyamori's head, good thing Yano-san made it it. However, It seems so incidental I don't buy it, the timing of it all could have been less derivative.
Why do people have such bad taste? Anime isn't subjective anymore.
Feb 13, 2015 5:03 PM

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a lot work for Miyamori make him stress :(

Finally Yano is back :D

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Here is a good site for all references (read between sloppy auto-translated lines):
Yup, that VA is Hisako Kanemoto (the squid girl and Kotoura-san), and the Voice Director is Yoshikazu Iwanami (who allegedly pledges to become "the kindest Voice Director"): http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ja&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401&edit-text=&act=url

Erika Senpai looks gorgeous, doesn't she (VA was Choi Mochi-mazzui in Tamako, and Ai Shindo in Kyokai no Kanata): http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3Fpage%3D2&sandbox=1

Ekaterina of Danzig Corridoor: http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D3

Angel gymnastics: http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D4

Now I understand why Goth-Lolli's name is Ogasawara: http://translate.google.co.jp/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D5

Mr. Enjo (Flamer), Yarase (Stager), and Makurada ("Pillow" talker): https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D7

Ide Kirara is a VA in "Sadoka Mazoka", "Amagi Amusement Park", "Is Your Order a Turtoise?" "A Certain Mummificated Temple Monk", "TARITARITARI", "Nagi no Atokara", "Angel Beat!", "Another2", "GlassTrip": http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D8

Purun-purun melting pictures: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D9

(K)Anno: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D10

(K)Anno, Nausicaa, and fighter planes: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D11

Crayon Shin-chan, Doraemon, and Q-chan as animators of B Production (or Shin-Ei Animation); Gundam and ZAK: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D12

Andes Chucky or Rocky Chuck: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D13

Maitake Shimeji and Nasu Kinoko: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D14

The most controversial Episode 6 (Waiting for Godot and IDEPON): http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D15

Pro-sense Studio, 81 Produce, Aoni Production: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D16

Director Kinoshita and Co.: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D17

VAs Suzuka Ito and Mui Kayano; "Itano Circus": http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D18

Patch the Honeybee: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ja&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatome.naver.jp%2Fodai%2F2141700241478852401%3F%26page%3D19
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Feb 13, 2015 10:16 PM
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Looks like Miyamori is on the way to becoming a director


Not a director, nothing has indicated that Miyamori has artistic talent.

But she could become a producer, which ultimately is the most important thing. Directors, animators, writers, all eventually need to be paid. Only people who are willing to invest the money, the producers, are the true genesis of any artistic production. Of course the main producers don't know jack about anything, so they hire someone who does know something. That is the position Miyamori is starting to fill. Succeed with this animation, and she has a rep, having a rep means that the money bags will trust her vision, having money means that the directors, animators, and writers will take a chance on her.

Of course ultimately talent will win, but talent needs a coach to bring out their talent. Miyamori is going to be that coach, and in doing that, she will Shepard the blossoming of a lot of talent.
Feb 14, 2015 12:19 AM

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"Sorry, I've got another thing I have to get to, so I'll be off!"

"Thanks"

They've completely given up on the editor. XD

P.A. Works is doing such a fantastic job with this series. I love all the characters and, oh yeah, all the stuff about the anime business is fascinating. This more than makes up for Glasslip.
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If anyone haven't seen this yet: http://musani.jp/works/index-2.html
Feb 14, 2015 7:01 AM
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Dang, everything is piling up for Aoi.. The guy quits after messing up and now Aoi is in a tough spot. Well it seems like Erika might get her chance to shine as she's back.

Aoi's pink outfit looked very pretty on her. It's refreshing as well since dives a bit out of her regular clothes that we've been seeing her use.

Feb 14, 2015 9:38 AM
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Nachtwandler_21 said:
If anyone haven't seen this yet: http://musani.jp/works/index-2.html


PA is playful. I can't recommend making international calls, but like in previous Hanasaku Iroha series with Ohana working at the guesthouse picking up the phone, you can actually call Musashino Animation phone number 03-6908-8821 and Miyamori picks up the phone (recorded). The current version has Miyamori high on doughnuts and singing, happy that Yano-senpai is back.
http://en.niconico.sarashi.com/?sm25579266
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GohanwaOkazu said:
Nachtwandler_21 said:
If anyone haven't seen this yet: http://musani.jp/works/index-2.html


PA is playful. I can't recommend making international calls, but like in previous Hanasaku Iroha series with Ohana working at the guesthouse picking up the phone, you can actually call Musashino Animation phone number 03-6908-8821 and Miyamori picks up the phone (recorded). The current version has Miyamori high on doughnuts and singing, happy that Yano-senpai is back.
http://en.niconico.sarashi.com/?sm25579266
That's great, thanks for sharing.
Feb 14, 2015 10:36 AM

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Aoi in that panic. I love how she shows her maturing side. And Yano's back!!! Hell yeah! I missed her.
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If anyone haven't seen this yet: http://musani.jp/works/index-2.html

Thanks for this. My OCD kicked in when the credits of this episode lists "Voice of Christine" but did not list the in-universe name of the voice actress. With this page, we know it's Ayano Makise.

Now I just need to figure out who "Voice of Valois" is.
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Feb 14, 2015 7:50 PM
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The most pleasant part of this episode to me was when the sound director guided the new voice actor. He never acted like an instructor, a supervisor or such. He just had a nonchalant talk with her that seemed to have nothing to do with the recording but he had made her find how to act with a bit sad and monotonic way at the very part finally.
Feb 15, 2015 5:12 PM
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This anime is great, I have yet to understand how is so underrated like that. Mnnn Aoi is so adorable damn. I think this is the best of PA Works so far, surpassed Hanasaku Iroha for me, sorry bout that. Though, PA Works has only two good shows anyway.
Feb 15, 2015 10:45 PM

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She's baaaack~ And just in time too~



I can't believe there's only five episodes left, I'm going to miss this series so much once its over with. =(
Will I fall in love someday? I wonder?


Feb 16, 2015 2:28 AM

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Omg Yano returning at the end :D hnng so clutch
Feb 16, 2015 5:17 PM

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Man, being Aoi is suffering. xP
Damn Taitanic whateveritcalled! The director ran way. SERIOUSLY?!
If these situations happen in real life, I wonder what will happen to the anime industry.. :S

Yano-san's back everybody! ^O^
She can definitely solve the problem! ...right?
Feb 17, 2015 8:37 AM

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Poor Miyamori...
There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
Feb 18, 2015 2:22 AM

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Yano saving the day <3

Whe they finish the first episode of Aerial Girls Third. Titanic Studio will finally sink at the bottom of the ocean.
Feb 18, 2015 7:52 AM

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Nice episode.

But I'm still extremely annoyed by the new illustrator. I don't know how you guys find her cute. She can't even talk with her coworkers. It's not like she's shy or even makes conversations awkward. She's unable to finish a word, let alone a whole phrase. This is some serious problem and I do really hope that by the end of the series she can at least talk to Ema.

And this taitanic studio is obviously going to be the source of a lot of problems in the last arc. I'm also pretty confident that by the end of the season Shizuka will also work with them. Maybe the original choice for the role she auditioned will fall ill or something. It's pretty obvious that this whole "the director really liked her" thing wasn't gratuitous. Maybe she'll fill in as a supporting character?

It has been a nice SOL so far, but I still miss that something that will make it great. It's my favorite show "this season" so far, however.
Feb 18, 2015 3:59 PM

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She's cute but how the hell did she get hired though if she could barely speak?
Feb 18, 2015 6:56 PM

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I think they hired her for her drawing skils rather than her communication/social skills.

Ai is an exaggeration of the socially awkward type of people out there. Hopefully, she will have some development in the last 6 episodes with Ema's help.
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Studio Taitanic is a real place! At least, the external appearance of Studio Taitanic
is an exact match for a location in the small town of Ooarai. Fans of "Girls und
Panzer" may recall that the whole story was set in Ooarai and the locations were
all modeled closely on actual places in Ooarai. As well, Tsutomu Mizushima directed
both series. If you click on this link, you can see a still image from Shirobako of the
street view of Studio Taitanic which perfectly matches some building in Ooarai:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ZlWXwCUAALSjj.jpg

Apart from Shirobako, this webpage contains many other examples where fans
have noticed similarities between anime series backgrounds and real-life places:
http://anitabi.net/blog/2015/01/2015seichi.html

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I just noticed that the official Shirobako website has 14 new technical terms which
have been added to their anime glossary. As usual, fans are expected to study all
of these in advance of watching the episode. So it looks like Episode 19 might be
a bit complicated.
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Omg they're all a bunch of divas and drama queens.
Where the hell is the sense of responsability in the big majority of the characters? It's like they change opinions like people change underwear. -.-
Aoi always doing an amazing job but even her can't keep up with these people.
Luckly, Erika came back to save the day. :D
Feb 22, 2015 8:29 AM

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The main VA of Aria is a newbie but couldn't get the right emotion of the script but was advised by the higher-ups to get it correct.
You couldn't really make an assuring conversation with a drunk!
When worse situation gets worst for Miyamori a hell breaks loose! Good thing Yano Erika comes back on the very right crucial time!


Mar 2, 2015 11:52 PM

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Yano coming through in the clutch to save anime.
Mar 26, 2015 9:25 AM

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The struggle is real
I mean all of these are because irresponsibility
They just ran away from their responsibility!!
Well, I'm not in position to talk like that xD
At least Ookura-san really did his job properly!

Just in the nick of time
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Apr 8, 2015 5:08 AM
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Just when Miyamori is losing her shit, Yano to the rescue!! That's why Tarou disappeared ahahaha.
Miyamori is amazing, though <3
Apr 12, 2015 1:06 PM

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Roro and that pirate girl doesn't exist , but Miyamori can talk to them :D I Like them
Apr 13, 2015 4:13 AM

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the loli blonde MVP girl is back, how about old man Sugie doing the ED or episode director stuff this time?
Apr 29, 2015 6:26 PM

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Lovely ending! Really like where this is going.
May 4, 2015 7:12 AM

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Make the executive producer is really terrible, as I am now, I would not be still capable. Not a bad episode, I did not imagine a similar upsurge against the MUSANI, but this is permissible because not all are true professionals in every sense. On the other hand there is also shown the other side of the coin; you notice there is also the difference that makes the real professional. The twist due to Okura leaving the job, was not credible; bluff a short-lived, artists need inspiration. Maybe I evaluated Taro-kun too hastily, it is a fool; point! XD
However one other lesson from the way the Japanese animation industry; I love Shirobako.

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Jun 13, 2015 2:33 PM

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What a mess in the end, Miyamori sure is having trouble times. I was very happy to see Erika, she arrived precisely when she was needed the most.

And I'm glad that Suzuki get a grip of her role after all.
Jul 1, 2015 3:45 AM

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Aoi never seizes to amaze me with her persuasion skills <3
Jul 22, 2015 1:53 AM

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Miyamori is starting to sound like Honda now.
Aug 30, 2015 10:50 AM

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Come here, you little hamster, I'M GONNA PET THE SHIT OUT OF YA!


As if she is not cute enough, that toddler voice of her made her a weapon of mass destruction. She may not be competent, but sure is a sight for sore eye when you stuck in the production hell for 16 hours straight.


LOL Kunogi is the best.
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it's funny how so many of the characters (and even the things they say) in this show are probably based off of actual people. takanashi and 3rd wings author's editor come to mind.

yano the saviour.
Sep 11, 2015 10:07 PM

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troll ookura got anti-trolled

all hell breaks loose but my prayer was answered with that cliffhanger

yes please
Oct 4, 2015 3:06 PM

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"The deadline is tomorrow night"
"Miiiyaaaamoooriiiiiiiii~"
11/10

Miyamori has some good people skills, very noice.
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This episode felt like filler. Easily the most boring Shirobako episode.

1.8/5
Jun 26, 2016 7:48 AM

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Yet another episode that was all killer no filler. The seiyuu scene was great, the voice of the main girl was trying so hard. It was kind of cringe worthy, I'm glad it worked out for her though. Nabe-P entrusting Miyamori with making the production teams introductions to the voice cast was really nice. Plus she was the best, but only because the Director and other guy were laughably terrible. I really liked how the sound guy basically tricked her into saying the line naturally. It was clever, Miyamori trying to talk her down was sweet too. I agree with whoever said the voice actress sounds like Kana Hanazawa.

This was a busy episode with a lot of cool stuff, but my favorite part was the addition of yet another new character Ookura. I love his concept in general, an old school background painter who's a drunk now because he feels he has no place in the digital world. He was just a funny character throughout too though. I also liked the business card set up because I totally noticed him put it in his wallet and wondered if that would come back. I also like how he was guilted into helping them with Head Honcho's food. The after the credits scene with him painting was yet another moment of sublime beauty punctuating the alternately humorous and stressful tone of the show.

On a final note the Titanic studios problem is yet another monkey wrench in the show's progress I could not anticipate. I at least rarely think about how the studio producing the anime sometimes essentially contracts parts of the show to different studios. The idea that one of these might be stretching themselves too thin and completely drop the ball had never even occurred to me.

Just when all hope seems lost for Miyamori, Yano shows back up. While maybe a cheap cliffhanger I punched the air when she walked through the door. I've missed Yano and I was worried since it was so late in the series she might just show up for a cameo like Honda. Maybe give Miyamori another encouraging ass slap and be on her way. But it seems like she's here to stay, and I can't wait to see her and super stressed Miyamori's reunion next time.

On a final less important note, for the last two episodes the ED has been Zuka. I felt like the two episodes that had Ema in the ED at least prominently featured her. Zuka wasn't even in this episode. A minor quibble but time is also running out for them to do something with her.
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-Man whose idea was it to have Chazawa sit in on the recording
-Turns out he wasn't even there for most of the recording
-That's a really small smoking room and I'm questioning the logic of it
-Arrive late leave early do nothing
-Liked the conversation in the recording room between Suzuki and Aoi
-The conversation in the recording room between Suzuki and the sound guy was adorable
-The store owner seems to have listened in on a lot of conversations going on in her shop
-How did they get in his house anyway
-Musani pres is pretty well-connected, it would seem
-Huh, the Taitanic episode director actually puts in work. I woulda expected that guy to be as wishy-washy as the Taitanic production desk
-Never mind, I shouldn't have assumed that quantity equated to quality. MusAni just can't catch a break.
-Everything comes tumbling down
-Oh nice Erika's back, although the moment the door opened I knew who it was
-Turns out the Ookura fellow wanted to disconnect himself in order to draw better and not to shirk the work

Pretty nice episode actually. Studio Taitanic turned out to be a thorn in MusAni's side as expected.
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I hope they never work with that episode director again.

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okairi <33333333
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Damn, Yano couldn't have returned at a better time lol.
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Taitanic sinked, who would have expected that? Anywa, Yano has perfect timing, things started to fall apart without her.
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