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Nov 12, 2020 10:21 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
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I've finished Watanagashi's VN 12 hours ago, so I'm remarkably fresh. The storehouse scene is so light-hearted after just reading the VN... think about torture devices and their functions being described to you for over an hour, mixing fiction with japanese history. My stomach really felt like my entrails turned upside down, best moment of Watanagashi's VN imo.

There are a few differences, the same differences from Onidamashi, but with a little more screen information. I don't want to give much information, but on ep2 it already reached the point of no return. I still had hope that Rika had acted preemptively on ep3 though.

It was a good episode overall, Keiichi comes with the kitty talk instead, and I didn't expect Rika's reaction. However my expectations on the arc's ending are really low. Despite the bad production quality, I liked the turn of events in Onidamashi ep4.

Also, I felt Rena's eyes were done badly, but I must say I really like Rika's eyes.

I hope they bring up something really, really new to end this arc, because this is the 3rd arc with the similar scenario, it's getting repetitive.


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Thanks for making that clear to me. It was a theory that really popped up in my mind while reading, and I started laughing. I really wanted to ask someone, and didn't want to wait until Meakashi or Minagoroshi to get it answered. I'm a very slow reader imo.
Nov 12, 2020 10:22 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
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I was just reminded how bad Kei-chan is at lying or even playing dumb.

Seems like Rika is just done with this shit.
Considering this, could it be that the reason she isnt really doing shit to save everyone is because


This would explain why she does the bare minimum to save even one person.

And she acts as if she doesnt actually know the truth, that she claimed she knew.






If they run away with a vehicle then Rika having something to do with their fate is highly unlikely.
They only way for Ooishi's story t work is if it was a lie from the villagers and everyone is covering for Rika or someone else.
But if people could just believe Rika then she wouldnt have to suffer 100 years of kakera hopping.



Nov 12, 2020 10:23 AM

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ovy7 said:


Inb4

maybe lol
i'm really interested to see what will happen

Nov 12, 2020 10:30 AM

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rafaelfserafim said:



It's not really a spoiler but if you don't want to clear your confusion about the nails thing don't read
Nov 12, 2020 10:30 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
ovy7 said:


Inb4

maybe lol
i'm really interested to see what will happen



I haven't seen the trailer in ages so I can't comment on that, but about this getting an answer arc, I feel like the 2nd cour would be one for the entire first cour and there won't be any answer arcs for each questions arcs like in the original.
Nov 12, 2020 10:43 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
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It's not really a spoiler but if you don't want to clear your confusion about the nails thing don't read
Ahhh, so that's why.
Nov 12, 2020 10:47 AM

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ovy7 said:
Tsukumo_Yuuma said:

maybe lol
i'm really interested to see what will happen



I haven't seen the trailer in ages so I can't comment on that, but about this getting an answer arc, I feel like the 2nd cour would be one for the entire first cour and there won't be any answer arcs for each questions arcs like in the original.

Nov 12, 2020 10:49 AM

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ovy7 said:
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Mion's gun is a fake

I'm about to get whooshed aren't I.


I know, but

Ohh, so it's like a BB gun. I see.

ssjokg said:
I was just reminded how bad Kei-chan is at lying or even playing dumb.

Seems like Rika is just done with this shit.
Considering this, could it be that the reason she isnt really doing shit to save everyone is because


This would explain why she does the bare minimum to save even one person.

She has always been like that though.


ssjokg said:

And she acts as if she doesnt actually know the truth, that she claimed she knew.


I mean...


ssjokg said:

Maybe we are approaching this the wrong way?
This isnt Rika.


Would make sense why Hanyuu isnt with her and why she is trapped again, as for who would do that Featherine and/or Lambda are obvious answers.

Theories aside, I just dont like the color of her scary eyes. Why not just keep them purple or at least make that the primary color?


I do agree that the red scary eyes don't look good. It should have been a dark purple like in the original.
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rafaelfserafim said:
Tsukumo_Yuuma said:

It's not really a spoiler but if you don't want to clear your confusion about the nails thing don't read
Ahhh, so that's why.

Nov 12, 2020 10:58 AM
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Keiichi's overreactions make even the scenes that are supposed to be scary seem funny lol...then again maybe it's cause I already watched the previous adaptation that I can find it funny now


Unless this gets a second season, the other 2 arcs would probably be condensed to finish off this cour and we'll get the answer arcs for each of the question arcs (?) during the second cour...

yea, go play with the ball Keiichi, you gonna die soon anyway, might as well enjoy what little time you have left before you get brutally murdered again
Nov 12, 2020 11:00 AM

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@ArcueidBestGirl

But in Arc 6 she doesnt know everything yet.

I dont mean the GHD tho. I mean


We dont know if this happens before Bern(as she is in Umineko) is born or after. But either way they could make it so that Bern


It is highly unlikely that this isnt Rika but Bern BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, I will go with that for now.

EDIt:quotes are fucked so I just mentioned you instead.
Nov 12, 2020 11:00 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:



rafaelfserafim said:


Thanks both for the info :D


Nov 12, 2020 11:14 AM
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I will have to agree that things are getting quite interesting now. Keiichi knows more in this timeline. Not 100% sure if the Keiichi from the last timeline died but this timeline is way spooky and there is more information.
Like we already knew that Rika-chan was somehow related to the curse since the first episode but now this has taken a bigger turn.
As Stark700 said, the episode lighting was a little bit too dark.
Waiting to see what happened to that couple and what will happen next.
Nov 12, 2020 11:18 AM
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rafaelfserafim said:
Tsukumo_Yuuma said:

It's not really a spoiler but if you don't want to clear your confusion about the nails thing don't read
Ahhh, so that's why.


Nov 12, 2020 11:27 AM

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Bernkastel: I'm tired of your shit Keiichi.
Nov 12, 2020 11:28 AM

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svet said:
Keiichi's overreactions make even the scenes that are supposed to be scary seem funny lol...then again maybe it's cause I already watched the previous adaptation that I can find it funny now


Unless this gets a second season, the other 2 arcs would probably be condensed to finish off this cour and we'll get the answer arcs for each of the question arcs (?) during the second cour...

yea, go play with the ball Keiichi, you gonna die soon anyway, might as well enjoy what little time you have left before you get brutally murdered again

This season will be 5 arcs (according to the Blu-rays) so i think it's unlikely that this won't have a second season and only arc 5 (that will be 7 episodes) will be an answer arc (since the answer arcs usually have more episodes in the anime), unless it's as others said and not every question arc will have its own answer arc like always, instead arc 4 and 5 in this season will explain everything somehow.

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Nov 12, 2020 11:34 AM

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Tsukumo_Yuuma said:
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Ahhh, so that's why.

Makes sense. No point in revealing him yet if he's not directly relevant. It was just a theory that popped up in the discussions, I didn't take it seriously. Showing a shadow of him with a bat for me is evidence enough that he was present in the arc.
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rafaelfserafim said:
Ahhh, so that's why.


So it was really a mistake from my part. My memories from the anime are tipsy, which can be a good thing since I'm reading the VN's now, but I end up mixing things up like that. So, there's old anime, new anime and VN information all mixed up in my mind at the same time lol.
Nov 12, 2020 11:36 AM

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@ArcueidBestGirl

But in Arc 6 she doesnt know everything yet.

I dont mean the GHD tho. I mean


We dont know if this happens before Bern(as she is in Umineko) is born or after. But either way they could make it so that Bern


It is highly unlikely that this isnt Rika but Bern BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, I will go with that for now.

EDIt:quotes are fucked so I just mentioned you instead.






The thing I have notice with Higurashi and Umineko is that the answers to mysteries have always been right in front of us in plain sight, we just need to interpret it correctly to solve it.

I imagine the same will be true with Higurashi Gou as well, which means that the answer shouldn't be over complicated. Well, that's what I hope anyway. Hopefully the anime doesn't cut out so much of the script that the answer is ridiculously hard to find out.
Nov 12, 2020 11:46 AM
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ssjokg said:


Seems like Rika is just done with this shit.
Considering this, could it be that the reason she isnt really doing shit to save everyone is because


This would explain why she does the bare minimum to save even one person.



My exact thoughts after I saw this episode. This episode + Umineko allusions in the OP mean my pet theory now is that this Higurashi (aptly named Higurashi: Karma/Destiny) is going to end with
Though the latter half of that's certainly just wishful thinking.
Nov 12, 2020 11:49 AM
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Whoa Rikka- I’m a little scared of her now. Looks like Shion set up Keiichi.

Nov 12, 2020 11:57 AM
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I liked this episode overall, but I feel they decided to take a leaf out of Game of Thrones' book and make everything as dark as their souls. Shame! Shame! Shame!

So now we got more information about Takano and Tomitake, but I'm not too sure that it was the same that happened in Onidamashi. After all, stealing a van is something that doesn't go unnoticed, as this arc shows us. They may have done that in Onidamashi too for all I know, but it would be weird for Ooishi not to mention that detail last time.

Rika's scene was incredible. She is definitely giving zero shits now. I think she had the intention to help, because after all she went to ask Keiichi why he looks so down. But something snapped and now she has no hope. Although this was played to be creepy, it makes me very sad, poor Rika :(

Nov 12, 2020 12:02 PM

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Bantarific said:
ssjokg said:


Seems like Rika is just done with this shit.
Considering this, could it be that the reason she isnt really doing shit to save everyone is because


This would explain why she does the bare minimum to save even one person.



My exact thoughts after I saw this episode. This episode + Umineko allusions in the OP mean my pet theory now is that this Higurashi (aptly named Higurashi: Karma/Destiny) is going to end with
Though the latter half of that's certainly just wishful thinking.


I heard somewhere(unreliable probably) that we are getting season 2 of Higurashi Gou so Umineko will have to wait.
Nov 12, 2020 12:04 PM

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I'm loving this so much. All of the little differences from the original Watanagashi -- like Tommy + Takano's fate, Shion acting somewhat differently, Rika snapping, Oyashiro-sama's head crumbling...

Some people mentioned that the weird vignette effect lightning in the previous arc might have been



which has some interesting implications considering it happened during the phone scene.

Also at this point I'm getting the feeling that Rika doesn't know that



and instead assumes things happened just as usual. Hence her being deceived.
Nov 12, 2020 12:06 PM
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ArcueidBestGirl said:
I heard somewhere(unreliable probably) that we are getting season 2 of Higurashi Gou so Umineko will have to wait.


Would make sense. They could break the mold and go straight into two short-length answer arcs after (what will presumably be titled) Tatari-damashi, or it'll likely need another season.
Nov 12, 2020 12:09 PM
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_cenjoo said:
Whoa Rikka- I’m a little scared of her now. Looks like Shion set up Keiichi.



Nov 12, 2020 12:12 PM

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Bantarific said:
ArcueidBestGirl said:
I heard somewhere(unreliable probably) that we are getting season 2 of Higurashi Gou so Umineko will have to wait.


Would make sense. They could break the mold and go straight into two short-length answer arcs after (what will presumably be titled) Tatari-damashi, or it'll likely need another season.

Looking at the current leaks though, we see that (the presumably named) Tataridamashi-hen will be 5 episodes long, the arc after that will be 4 episodes long, and the last arc for this season will be 7 episodes long. So getting another season doesn't seem that unlikely.
Nov 12, 2020 12:18 PM

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Nov 12, 2020 12:23 PM
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Pretty sure next ep is going to be hype af cause this is where sht hits the fan.
Nov 12, 2020 12:24 PM

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I understand Rika thinking that Tomitake is dead.... but shouldn't she know that takano ISN'T dead?
Nov 12, 2020 12:30 PM
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Nov 12, 2020 12:32 PM

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Why is noone talking about Satoko conveniently "disappearing" during Watanagashi? By disappearing I mean they flat-out said the only one missing from the group (after the 4 leave the storage) is Satoko (and we don't know exactly when, and for how long did Mion, Rena, Rika and her split up.)
Now, ofc I know she isn't actually missing (since she was at school the next day), but I'm pretty sure it's important information and, also considering that Satoshi haven't been mentioned yet...

Seems fishy.
Nov 12, 2020 12:58 PM

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Rika's like "okay let's pack it up this fragment's shot"
Nov 12, 2020 1:00 PM
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What if Rika is wrong and Keiichi survives? I don’t think she knows as much as she thinks she does this time. Just my theory.
Nov 12, 2020 1:05 PM

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ArcueidBestGirl said:
Bantarific said:


Would make sense. They could break the mold and go straight into two short-length answer arcs after (what will presumably be titled) Tatari-damashi, or it'll likely need another season.

Looking at the current leaks though, we see that (the presumably named) Tataridamashi-hen will be 5 episodes long, the arc after that will be 4 episodes long, and the last arc for this season will be 7 episodes long. So getting another season doesn't seem that unlikely.


I don't think the bluray volumes being announced on the official site counts as a "leak"?
Nov 12, 2020 1:07 PM

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What if Rika is wrong and Keiichi survives? I don’t think she knows as much as she thinks she does this time. Just my theory.


Well if he does survive it doesnt mean everyone else will.
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Gar_Logan said:
ArcueidBestGirl said:

Looking at the current leaks though, we see that (the presumably named) Tataridamashi-hen will be 5 episodes long, the arc after that will be 4 episodes long, and the last arc for this season will be 7 episodes long. So getting another season doesn't seem that unlikely.


I don't think the bluray volumes being announced on the official site counts as a "leak"?

Well, the official site is in japanese sooo...
Nov 12, 2020 1:10 PM

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Guys I don't remember this demon story in the first arc. Does this mean we're going to see an alternate scenario here? Or the 'answers' will be the same?
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ArcueidBestGirl said:
Gar_Logan said:


I don't think the bluray volumes being announced on the official site counts as a "leak"?

Well, the official site is in japanese sooo...


Haha I'd just call them predictions/assumptions over leaks. Since it is like you posted, really likely that each volume contains an arc.
Nov 12, 2020 1:12 PM

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I thought Mion is the one who's going nut this time.
Yet it is Rika-chan XD.
Nov 12, 2020 1:32 PM

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Is Rika actually brain dead?
Nov 12, 2020 1:57 PM

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Is Rika actually brain dead?


Wasn't her attempt to change things the doll scene a couple eps back?
Nov 12, 2020 2:03 PM

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The direction is still dreadfully boring (I'm tempted to say DEEN's original take did the suspense better, at this point). The whole is going into pretty crazy directions, and this point I think it's clear the original mystery is gone.

Not sure what is going on with Rika, she's like not even trying despite her words in ep 2.

Nov 12, 2020 2:13 PM

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Okay so i reread some of Ch.2 in the VN, and i noticed that
Nov 12, 2020 2:28 PM

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Wasn't expecting Rika to kinda spill the beans to Keiichi already. There were some interesting differences this episode too, such as Takano and Tomitake stealing a van.

But pretty much the same events as the first two episodes of the 2006 anime happened, yet they're stretched out over three now. It makes this feel a lot slower, which could be good IF they deliver on the middle point (which we've sorta reached now) and the climax of the arc. OG anime already had some awesome stuff happening by the time the third episode of the arc was reached, so I hope this picks up the pace for the final (hopefully two or three) episodes of the arc.
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Rika's like "okay let's pack it up this fragment's shot"

yeah lmao, what a mood. Really caught me off guard, but I feel her tbh
Nov 12, 2020 2:30 PM
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- So, "Watanagashi" has another meaning, too.
- KEIICHI being a brat!
- Cooking Utensils, huh?!
Nov 12, 2020 2:32 PM

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Man, 90% is just the old stuff. I'm considering just reading the episode summaries instead of watching.
Nov 12, 2020 2:35 PM

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so I hope this picks up the pace for the final (hopefully two or three) episodes of the arc.

Unfortunately, according the blu-rays, there's only 1 more episode left of this arc.
Nov 12, 2020 2:37 PM

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Lol wtf was Rika doing at the end
Nov 12, 2020 2:45 PM
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Man, 90% is just the old stuff. I'm considering just reading the episode summaries instead of watching.


because it's a remake/reboot
Nov 12, 2020 3:04 PM
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The direction is still dreadfully boring (I'm tempted to say DEEN's original take did the suspense better, at this point). The whole is going into pretty crazy directions, and this point I think it's clear the original mystery is gone.

Not sure what is going on with Rika, she's like not even trying despite her words in ep 2.


I have to agree completely. Tension is something that DEEN did extremely well regardless if the material was not as close to the VN as it should hace
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