Goblin Slayer (light novel)
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Oct 18, 2018 12:59 PM
#301
Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: kofmaster said: Tuchari said: LaughingCoffinx said: Tuchari said: KanameYuuki said: While that could be an explanation, the way I see it is that in the eyes of adventurers the dude is just abusing the quest system to climb doing low entry missions for his gain, but to the citizens he is as much of a Hero as they come, he didn't turn his back to the common folk. If the common folk see goblins as equally important or even more so, why are there no other heroes like him who just want to be admired by the people? Why wouldn't the experience system be more reflective of the fact that killing goblins is also very important if the common folk admire GS that much for it? I would assume completing quests is ultimately about helping people? I think it's just a plot hole. Mostly because people don't like dealing with them. To them Goblins are like a plague. Just like we have rats in real life, but not many people dedicate to killing just rats. Also the Guild acts like mercenaries. Most adventures don't give a damn about what the villagers think, but how much they pay & Goblin Slaying pays little. I see your point. I get that it just pays little. But if real life rats would kill villagers and rape girls, more people would kill rats. I guess the plothole comes down to this: 1. Nobody slays goblins because it doesn't pay enough and it doesn't make you as famous as killing a dragon. 2. GS only kills goblins. 3. In this episode it is shown that GS is both wealthy enough to impress an average villager and famous enough that a bard a few towns away is singing songs about him with townsfolk gathering to listen. Yeah, but in the real live people do not have to travel from their small villages to tell the guild about their problem, Many adventurers do not even know how to read or write. About the third point, The townspeople are grateful that they kill goblins. But many adventurers consider it a waste of time to deal with it when there are demon lords threatening to conquer the world. Many see GS as man that it abuses the system of missions to gain prestige in the towns, because nobody sees the goblins as a real threat compared to a dragon. Also hunting them gives very little money, so it is not an efficient job in monetary matters. Yes, Goblins assault villages and rape women, but beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous by themselves. In fact, you can see how the villager asks if the rumors about goblins kidnapping women are real. It is not something that all people know. About the adventurers looking down on GS because they think he's cheating the system because demons etc. are more important, and hunting goblins not being very efficient, I summarized that in my first point. The first point contradicts the third. They both still stand. You could only move around this by saying that the common perception adventurers have about hunting goblins is incorrect. The show doesn't say this. You say that beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous. The show tells us this, but never shows it. From watching the show, I get the impression that goblins are actually a far bigger problem. That is because I have seen multiple victims of goblins, heard of multiple villages attacked by goblins and seen villagers admire a song about a goblin slayer. We haven't even heard a single story about the other creatures. We were just told that they are more dangerous. Hobgoblins, trolls, dragons etc are absolutely bigger threats but more importantly they're threats to people with the money to hire top tier adventurers. I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. Not only silver ranks refuse to kill goblins. GS expected that no one would take a goblin hunting quest, except the occasional group of newbies. Silver ranks not doing it I can understand. But literally no experienced adventurer? I mean, it's pretty simple logic. If a bunch of little goblins can do this much damage then it's pretty obvious that a troll 15 times their size or a dragon 50 times their size will obviously be an even bigger threat. Because we see that the rewards for goblin quests are pitiful. The old man barely had fifteen coins for the guild and that was supposed to be money from the whole village.[/quote] I have been arguing this whole time that the show is contradicting itself. The show says killing goblins doesn't pay well, as shown by your example. The show also shows us that GS is wealthy enough to impress cow girls' father.[/quote] There's two reasons for this. 1) Goblin Slayer works almost every day so even the small amounts add up. 2) Goblin Slayer lives frugally. He uses subpar equipment and like he said his imagination to kill more efficiently. |
Oct 18, 2018 1:23 PM
#302
Laionidas said: Username23489023 said: If a bunch of little goblins can do this much damage then it's pretty obvious that a troll 15 times their size or a dragon 50 times their size will obviously be an even bigger threat. And this is precisely what I am contesting. The anime at least makes it seem like they are not, and that, due to their abundancy and relative intelligence, Goblins are in fact the highest tier threat, even if they're not the highest tier monsters. Tomimi said: It's a pretty normal reaction because he's ranked Silver, a rank 2 tiers away from platinum and all he does is kill Goblins and wear cheap ass armor (Goblin reasons). I don't get the cheap ass armour though. He can obviously afford better, and while there might be no point in emerald encrusted fanciness, e.g. lighter armour offering similar protection would provide a clear upgrade. Martin_Taylor said: He is exactly very angry fantasy Doomguy. The original Doomguy was allready pretty angry,.. Because they killed his pet bunny, that he kept in the barracks on Mars (I shitteth ye not!) He finds her, the rabbit's name's Daisy, beheaded, after the first or second episode, which take place on Phobos and Deimos, rather than Mars itself. 1: About the first point That's just because the anime has not show another evil creature yet for example 2: Goblin Slayer armor isn't an expensive one. He use cheap, disposable, boring but efficient equipment. |
Oct 18, 2018 1:49 PM
#303
kofmaster said: 2: Goblin Slayer armor isn't an expensive one. He use cheap, disposable, boring but efficient equipment. But that's my point: it seems rather silly to assume that more expensive armour just becomes fancier. You'd expect the expensive armours to also provide better protection and/or have a better protection to weight/manoeuvrability ratio. I can see why he would go purely for efficiency, but I won't buy the idea that all expensive armour provide nothing extra in that respect. |
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Oct 18, 2018 1:52 PM
#304
Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: If I'm a silver tier who doesn't a vendetta against goblins why should I go spend my day killing goblins for 20 coins when I could make 100 times that killing something bigger?Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: kofmaster said: Tuchari said: LaughingCoffinx said: Tuchari said: KanameYuuki said: While that could be an explanation, the way I see it is that in the eyes of adventurers the dude is just abusing the quest system to climb doing low entry missions for his gain, but to the citizens he is as much of a Hero as they come, he didn't turn his back to the common folk. If the common folk see goblins as equally important or even more so, why are there no other heroes like him who just want to be admired by the people? Why wouldn't the experience system be more reflective of the fact that killing goblins is also very important if the common folk admire GS that much for it? I would assume completing quests is ultimately about helping people? I think it's just a plot hole. Mostly because people don't like dealing with them. To them Goblins are like a plague. Just like we have rats in real life, but not many people dedicate to killing just rats. Also the Guild acts like mercenaries. Most adventures don't give a damn about what the villagers think, but how much they pay & Goblin Slaying pays little. I see your point. I get that it just pays little. But if real life rats would kill villagers and rape girls, more people would kill rats. I guess the plothole comes down to this: 1. Nobody slays goblins because it doesn't pay enough and it doesn't make you as famous as killing a dragon. 2. GS only kills goblins. 3. In this episode it is shown that GS is both wealthy enough to impress an average villager and famous enough that a bard a few towns away is singing songs about him with townsfolk gathering to listen. Yeah, but in the real live people do not have to travel from their small villages to tell the guild about their problem, Many adventurers do not even know how to read or write. About the third point, The townspeople are grateful that they kill goblins. But many adventurers consider it a waste of time to deal with it when there are demon lords threatening to conquer the world. Many see GS as man that it abuses the system of missions to gain prestige in the towns, because nobody sees the goblins as a real threat compared to a dragon. Also hunting them gives very little money, so it is not an efficient job in monetary matters. Yes, Goblins assault villages and rape women, but beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous by themselves. In fact, you can see how the villager asks if the rumors about goblins kidnapping women are real. It is not something that all people know. About the adventurers looking down on GS because they think he's cheating the system because demons etc. are more important, and hunting goblins not being very efficient, I summarized that in my first point. The first point contradicts the third. They both still stand. You could only move around this by saying that the common perception adventurers have about hunting goblins is incorrect. The show doesn't say this. You say that beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous. The show tells us this, but never shows it. From watching the show, I get the impression that goblins are actually a far bigger problem. That is because I have seen multiple victims of goblins, heard of multiple villages attacked by goblins and seen villagers admire a song about a goblin slayer. We haven't even heard a single story about the other creatures. We were just told that they are more dangerous. Hobgoblins, trolls, dragons etc are absolutely bigger threats but more importantly they're threats to people with the money to hire top tier adventurers. I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. Not only silver ranks refuse to kill goblins. GS expected that no one would take a goblin hunting quest, except the occasional group of newbies. Silver ranks not doing it I can understand. But literally no experienced adventurer? There's two reasons for this. 1) Goblin Slayer works almost every day so even the small amounts add up. 2) Goblin Slayer lives frugally. He uses subpar equipment and like he said his imagination to kill more efficiently. Let's say I'm a villager. If I see GS is wealthier than me, plus he's admired by the people, why wouldn't I wanna do what he's doing? Working every day and using subpar equipment wouldn't stop a villager from making a better life for himself. Let's say I'm an aspiring adventurer who wants to become the best and only kill high level monsters. I would first have to kill weaker monsters. I might have to kill goblins every day, but that's what I gotta do to achieve my dream. But when I finally become silver rank that doesn't mean there isn't another aspiring adventurer to kill goblins. But for some reason in GS, NOBODY wants to kill goblins, and GS expects this. |
Oct 18, 2018 7:11 PM
#305
The animation in the scene at the beginning where they were walking to the city was terrible. Also, I could not help but laugh when I heard the accent of the person paying for the quest at the start. |
eWEQRW123123Oct 18, 2018 7:14 PM
People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch. |
Oct 18, 2018 7:40 PM
#306
QWERTYFish25 said: Kougeru said: Melody2222 said: I was surprised that everyone was so disrecpectful towards the MC at the begining then at the end we see that a bard is singing about him so he must have quite a reputation. His speach during the attack was really interesting. I think they're just jealous that he's well-known No, the writers fucked up and had conflicting lore. It was only established that Ushikai Musume's uncle and the silvers disliked the Goblin Slayer because it seemed undeserved to them because he achieved it through killing only weak monsters, goblins. The reasons Goblin Slayer is disliked is either personal or specific to Silvers. I see no reason why he cannot have a good reputation to townspeople, considering he is still saving lives. |
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Oct 18, 2018 8:24 PM
#307
Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: If I'm a silver tier who doesn't a vendetta against goblins why should I go spend my day killing goblins for 20 coins when I could make 100 times that killing something bigger?Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: kofmaster said: Tuchari said: LaughingCoffinx said: Tuchari said: KanameYuuki said: While that could be an explanation, the way I see it is that in the eyes of adventurers the dude is just abusing the quest system to climb doing low entry missions for his gain, but to the citizens he is as much of a Hero as they come, he didn't turn his back to the common folk. If the common folk see goblins as equally important or even more so, why are there no other heroes like him who just want to be admired by the people? Why wouldn't the experience system be more reflective of the fact that killing goblins is also very important if the common folk admire GS that much for it? I would assume completing quests is ultimately about helping people? I think it's just a plot hole. Mostly because people don't like dealing with them. To them Goblins are like a plague. Just like we have rats in real life, but not many people dedicate to killing just rats. Also the Guild acts like mercenaries. Most adventures don't give a damn about what the villagers think, but how much they pay & Goblin Slaying pays little. I see your point. I get that it just pays little. But if real life rats would kill villagers and rape girls, more people would kill rats. I guess the plothole comes down to this: 1. Nobody slays goblins because it doesn't pay enough and it doesn't make you as famous as killing a dragon. 2. GS only kills goblins. 3. In this episode it is shown that GS is both wealthy enough to impress an average villager and famous enough that a bard a few towns away is singing songs about him with townsfolk gathering to listen. Yeah, but in the real live people do not have to travel from their small villages to tell the guild about their problem, Many adventurers do not even know how to read or write. About the third point, The townspeople are grateful that they kill goblins. But many adventurers consider it a waste of time to deal with it when there are demon lords threatening to conquer the world. Many see GS as man that it abuses the system of missions to gain prestige in the towns, because nobody sees the goblins as a real threat compared to a dragon. Also hunting them gives very little money, so it is not an efficient job in monetary matters. Yes, Goblins assault villages and rape women, but beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous by themselves. In fact, you can see how the villager asks if the rumors about goblins kidnapping women are real. It is not something that all people know. About the adventurers looking down on GS because they think he's cheating the system because demons etc. are more important, and hunting goblins not being very efficient, I summarized that in my first point. The first point contradicts the third. They both still stand. You could only move around this by saying that the common perception adventurers have about hunting goblins is incorrect. The show doesn't say this. You say that beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous. The show tells us this, but never shows it. From watching the show, I get the impression that goblins are actually a far bigger problem. That is because I have seen multiple victims of goblins, heard of multiple villages attacked by goblins and seen villagers admire a song about a goblin slayer. We haven't even heard a single story about the other creatures. We were just told that they are more dangerous. Hobgoblins, trolls, dragons etc are absolutely bigger threats but more importantly they're threats to people with the money to hire top tier adventurers. I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. Not only silver ranks refuse to kill goblins. GS expected that no one would take a goblin hunting quest, except the occasional group of newbies. Silver ranks not doing it I can understand. But literally no experienced adventurer? There's two reasons for this. 1) Goblin Slayer works almost every day so even the small amounts add up. 2) Goblin Slayer lives frugally. He uses subpar equipment and like he said his imagination to kill more efficiently. Let's say I'm a villager. If I see GS is wealthier than me, plus he's admired by the people, why wouldn't I wanna do what he's doing? Working every day and using subpar equipment wouldn't stop a villager from making a better life for himself. Let's say I'm an aspiring adventurer who wants to become the best and only kill high level monsters. I would first have to kill weaker monsters. I might have to kill goblins every day, but that's what I gotta do to achieve my dream. But when I finally become silver rank that doesn't mean there isn't another aspiring adventurer to kill goblins. But for some reason in GS, NOBODY wants to kill goblins, and GS expects this. There is still a fundamental misunderstanding here. It's not that NOBODY wants to kill goblins. It's that there's simply more goblin missions then people who want to take them. We see in the episode three goblin quests that day. GS and priestess take one. The rookies take another. Another group previously failed at the one GS is on. |
Oct 18, 2018 8:25 PM
#308
I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. The first 2 episodes did a good job of establishing goblins are lower threats. Firstly, so far, goblins just seem to be unintelligent midgets. This immediately puts them as a lower threat than humans (because humans are bigger and smarter). There were quests about bandits, so humans are a problem. Secondly, the fact that the Goblin Slayer can kill so many of them on his own (22 in the first episode) is proof that most goblins are weak. Thirdly, it seems the Silver adventurers agree that goblins are weaker monsters compared to what they fight. For only 2 episodes, I think what they established so far is fine. |
eWEQRW123123Oct 18, 2018 8:28 PM
People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch. |
Oct 18, 2018 8:43 PM
#309
YEAH!!! Goblins burn!!!! burn!!! burn!!!. hahaha... |
Oct 19, 2018 6:06 PM
#310
Good episode, but im just not loving this like a lot of others |
Oct 20, 2018 1:23 AM
#311
Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: If I'm a silver tier who doesn't a vendetta against goblins why should I go spend my day killing goblins for 20 coins when I could make 100 times that killing something bigger?Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: kofmaster said: Tuchari said: LaughingCoffinx said: Tuchari said: KanameYuuki said: While that could be an explanation, the way I see it is that in the eyes of adventurers the dude is just abusing the quest system to climb doing low entry missions for his gain, but to the citizens he is as much of a Hero as they come, he didn't turn his back to the common folk. If the common folk see goblins as equally important or even more so, why are there no other heroes like him who just want to be admired by the people? Why wouldn't the experience system be more reflective of the fact that killing goblins is also very important if the common folk admire GS that much for it? I would assume completing quests is ultimately about helping people? I think it's just a plot hole. Mostly because people don't like dealing with them. To them Goblins are like a plague. Just like we have rats in real life, but not many people dedicate to killing just rats. Also the Guild acts like mercenaries. Most adventures don't give a damn about what the villagers think, but how much they pay & Goblin Slaying pays little. I see your point. I get that it just pays little. But if real life rats would kill villagers and rape girls, more people would kill rats. I guess the plothole comes down to this: 1. Nobody slays goblins because it doesn't pay enough and it doesn't make you as famous as killing a dragon. 2. GS only kills goblins. 3. In this episode it is shown that GS is both wealthy enough to impress an average villager and famous enough that a bard a few towns away is singing songs about him with townsfolk gathering to listen. Yeah, but in the real live people do not have to travel from their small villages to tell the guild about their problem, Many adventurers do not even know how to read or write. About the third point, The townspeople are grateful that they kill goblins. But many adventurers consider it a waste of time to deal with it when there are demon lords threatening to conquer the world. Many see GS as man that it abuses the system of missions to gain prestige in the towns, because nobody sees the goblins as a real threat compared to a dragon. Also hunting them gives very little money, so it is not an efficient job in monetary matters. Yes, Goblins assault villages and rape women, but beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous by themselves. In fact, you can see how the villager asks if the rumors about goblins kidnapping women are real. It is not something that all people know. About the adventurers looking down on GS because they think he's cheating the system because demons etc. are more important, and hunting goblins not being very efficient, I summarized that in my first point. The first point contradicts the third. They both still stand. You could only move around this by saying that the common perception adventurers have about hunting goblins is incorrect. The show doesn't say this. You say that beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous. The show tells us this, but never shows it. From watching the show, I get the impression that goblins are actually a far bigger problem. That is because I have seen multiple victims of goblins, heard of multiple villages attacked by goblins and seen villagers admire a song about a goblin slayer. We haven't even heard a single story about the other creatures. We were just told that they are more dangerous. Hobgoblins, trolls, dragons etc are absolutely bigger threats but more importantly they're threats to people with the money to hire top tier adventurers. I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. Not only silver ranks refuse to kill goblins. GS expected that no one would take a goblin hunting quest, except the occasional group of newbies. Silver ranks not doing it I can understand. But literally no experienced adventurer? There's two reasons for this. 1) Goblin Slayer works almost every day so even the small amounts add up. 2) Goblin Slayer lives frugally. He uses subpar equipment and like he said his imagination to kill more efficiently. Let's say I'm a villager. If I see GS is wealthier than me, plus he's admired by the people, why wouldn't I wanna do what he's doing? Working every day and using subpar equipment wouldn't stop a villager from making a better life for himself. Let's say I'm an aspiring adventurer who wants to become the best and only kill high level monsters. I would first have to kill weaker monsters. I might have to kill goblins every day, but that's what I gotta do to achieve my dream. But when I finally become silver rank that doesn't mean there isn't another aspiring adventurer to kill goblins. But for some reason in GS, NOBODY wants to kill goblins, and GS expects this. I dont think you get the fact that this people are adventurers, not heroes. Their more selfish then you think. Its more about gaining experience and money and being a hero is second or third to them. Its not worth the trouble to save some small village for a small pay. It may be doable to make money, but its extremely grindy and time consuming. As some stated before GS lives frugally to the point where he only buys whats necessary for him. Spoilers but even his meal intakes are very small portions like a piece of bread. The most expensive meal is just a simple stew. |
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Oct 20, 2018 2:50 AM
#312
Quote from the original Goblin Slayer thread in January 2014: Goblin is the weakest monster, I mean, if they're not gregarious. Only a few people including GS constantly exterminate them without being in danger. If I explained the details of goblin's danger (to newbies), they would say "You set me up!" and just quit. Goblin extermination is the least important mission. I have no other choice. -Guild Girl "Beat Super Mario Bros without a single miss, and you will get 10 pennies" Goblin extermination is something like that. If it was Star Gazer, not Super Mario, that might be extremely difficult. No veterans would like to take that job. High-rank adventurers? They're too busy playing big-budget series like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest. -Deadpool(author's avatar) In the original thread, the author explained why adventurers like GS is so rare and what it is like to be "failures of Goblin Slayer" cases. Some adventurers become avengers like GS but they're likely to end up with bronze rank, or just die soon. GS is an extremely rare case. Many people just quit adventurers after having some heart-breaking experiences. Some of them gradually improve their skills in the field and become veteran adventurers but they don't care goblins anymore in that case. |
Oct 20, 2018 4:58 AM
#313
Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: If I'm a silver tier who doesn't a vendetta against goblins why should I go spend my day killing goblins for 20 coins when I could make 100 times that killing something bigger?Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: kofmaster said: Tuchari said: LaughingCoffinx said: Tuchari said: KanameYuuki said: While that could be an explanation, the way I see it is that in the eyes of adventurers the dude is just abusing the quest system to climb doing low entry missions for his gain, but to the citizens he is as much of a Hero as they come, he didn't turn his back to the common folk. If the common folk see goblins as equally important or even more so, why are there no other heroes like him who just want to be admired by the people? Why wouldn't the experience system be more reflective of the fact that killing goblins is also very important if the common folk admire GS that much for it? I would assume completing quests is ultimately about helping people? I think it's just a plot hole. Mostly because people don't like dealing with them. To them Goblins are like a plague. Just like we have rats in real life, but not many people dedicate to killing just rats. Also the Guild acts like mercenaries. Most adventures don't give a damn about what the villagers think, but how much they pay & Goblin Slaying pays little. I see your point. I get that it just pays little. But if real life rats would kill villagers and rape girls, more people would kill rats. I guess the plothole comes down to this: 1. Nobody slays goblins because it doesn't pay enough and it doesn't make you as famous as killing a dragon. 2. GS only kills goblins. 3. In this episode it is shown that GS is both wealthy enough to impress an average villager and famous enough that a bard a few towns away is singing songs about him with townsfolk gathering to listen. Yeah, but in the real live people do not have to travel from their small villages to tell the guild about their problem, Many adventurers do not even know how to read or write. About the third point, The townspeople are grateful that they kill goblins. But many adventurers consider it a waste of time to deal with it when there are demon lords threatening to conquer the world. Many see GS as man that it abuses the system of missions to gain prestige in the towns, because nobody sees the goblins as a real threat compared to a dragon. Also hunting them gives very little money, so it is not an efficient job in monetary matters. Yes, Goblins assault villages and rape women, but beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous by themselves. In fact, you can see how the villager asks if the rumors about goblins kidnapping women are real. It is not something that all people know. About the adventurers looking down on GS because they think he's cheating the system because demons etc. are more important, and hunting goblins not being very efficient, I summarized that in my first point. The first point contradicts the third. They both still stand. You could only move around this by saying that the common perception adventurers have about hunting goblins is incorrect. The show doesn't say this. You say that beings like hobgoblins, trolls and demons are more dangerous. The show tells us this, but never shows it. From watching the show, I get the impression that goblins are actually a far bigger problem. That is because I have seen multiple victims of goblins, heard of multiple villages attacked by goblins and seen villagers admire a song about a goblin slayer. We haven't even heard a single story about the other creatures. We were just told that they are more dangerous. Hobgoblins, trolls, dragons etc are absolutely bigger threats but more importantly they're threats to people with the money to hire top tier adventurers. I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. Not only silver ranks refuse to kill goblins. GS expected that no one would take a goblin hunting quest, except the occasional group of newbies. Silver ranks not doing it I can understand. But literally no experienced adventurer? There's two reasons for this. 1) Goblin Slayer works almost every day so even the small amounts add up. 2) Goblin Slayer lives frugally. He uses subpar equipment and like he said his imagination to kill more efficiently. Let's say I'm a villager. If I see GS is wealthier than me, plus he's admired by the people, why wouldn't I wanna do what he's doing? Working every day and using subpar equipment wouldn't stop a villager from making a better life for himself. Let's say I'm an aspiring adventurer who wants to become the best and only kill high level monsters. I would first have to kill weaker monsters. I might have to kill goblins every day, but that's what I gotta do to achieve my dream. But when I finally become silver rank that doesn't mean there isn't another aspiring adventurer to kill goblins. But for some reason in GS, NOBODY wants to kill goblins, and GS expects this. There is still a fundamental misunderstanding here. It's not that NOBODY wants to kill goblins. It's that there's simply more goblin missions then people who want to take them. We see in the episode three goblin quests that day. GS and priestess take one. The rookies take another. Another group previously failed at the one GS is on. In an earlier post I said:"GS expected that no one would take a goblin hunting quest, except the occasional group of newbies. Silver ranks not doing it I can understand. But literally no experienced adventurer?" I meant nobody out of the experienced adventurers. Nobody who is qualified for the job. It seems everyone in goblin slayer is either a rookie who just left their village farm or a too high ranked adventurer who doesn't have time for goblin bullshit. |
Oct 20, 2018 5:08 AM
#314
eWEQRW123123 said: I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. The first 2 episodes did a good job of establishing goblins are lower threats. Firstly, so far, goblins just seem to be unintelligent midgets. This immediately puts them as a lower threat than humans (because humans are bigger and smarter). There were quests about bandits, so humans are a problem. Secondly, the fact that the Goblin Slayer can kill so many of them on his own (22 in the first episode) is proof that most goblins are weak. Thirdly, it seems the Silver adventurers agree that goblins are weaker monsters compared to what they fight. For only 2 episodes, I think what they established so far is fine. Firstly, goblins seem to be unintelligent killer midgets who rape girls and breed incredibly fast. Seems like the biggest threat I've seen in the show so far. Yes, there are bandits. Could I know how much of a threat they are from just one line of exposition from a side character? The principle of show don't tell: show me why I should care, don't just tell me. Secondly, GS shows up after two humans have been killed by these 'midgets' and two others have been wounded. Plus he is specialized in killing goblins. Thirdly, again show don't tell. |
Oct 20, 2018 6:24 AM
#315
Tuchari said: eWEQRW123123 said: I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. The first 2 episodes did a good job of establishing goblins are lower threats. Firstly, so far, goblins just seem to be unintelligent midgets. This immediately puts them as a lower threat than humans (because humans are bigger and smarter). There were quests about bandits, so humans are a problem. Secondly, the fact that the Goblin Slayer can kill so many of them on his own (22 in the first episode) is proof that most goblins are weak. Thirdly, it seems the Silver adventurers agree that goblins are weaker monsters compared to what they fight. For only 2 episodes, I think what they established so far is fine. Firstly, goblins seem to be unintelligent killer midgets who rape girls and breed incredibly fast. Seems like the biggest threat I've seen in the show so far. Yes, there are bandits. Could I know how much of a threat they are from just one line of exposition from a side character? The principle of show don't tell: show me why I should care, don't just tell me. Secondly, GS shows up after two humans have been killed by these 'midgets' and two others have been wounded. Plus he is specialized in killing goblins. Thirdly, again show don't tell. "Show me how the incredibly obvious thing works." This is honestly what you're starting to sound like. It's been explained multiple times |
Oct 20, 2018 7:30 AM
#316
QWERTYFish25 said: luccide said: This episode pales in comparison when compared to the first personally for me. The character development was alright. Not enough rape. Weird fucking CGI. I guess the backstory was ok. Simple and to the point. LoL if y'all wanna see rape, there's a thing called Hentai. I can give u some recommendations |
Oct 20, 2018 7:38 AM
#317
I honestly love the character Goblin Slayer and potentially Cow Girl. |
Oct 20, 2018 6:59 PM
#318
Well, this episode responds to the question: Why the goblin slayer is specialized in goblins? and this episode introduce a new character and his uncle. Nothing surprising, but I'm liking it, because the goblin slayer has personal resentments against the goblins, and for the simple fact of having his own experience, he can do things that not everyone would do. |
Oct 20, 2018 10:09 PM
#319
I like the depth and insight they gave us this episode. Great job |
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Oct 21, 2018 5:10 AM
#320
Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: eWEQRW123123 said: I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. The first 2 episodes did a good job of establishing goblins are lower threats. Firstly, so far, goblins just seem to be unintelligent midgets. This immediately puts them as a lower threat than humans (because humans are bigger and smarter). There were quests about bandits, so humans are a problem. Secondly, the fact that the Goblin Slayer can kill so many of them on his own (22 in the first episode) is proof that most goblins are weak. Thirdly, it seems the Silver adventurers agree that goblins are weaker monsters compared to what they fight. For only 2 episodes, I think what they established so far is fine. Firstly, goblins seem to be unintelligent killer midgets who rape girls and breed incredibly fast. Seems like the biggest threat I've seen in the show so far. Yes, there are bandits. Could I know how much of a threat they are from just one line of exposition from a side character? The principle of show don't tell: show me why I should care, don't just tell me. Secondly, GS shows up after two humans have been killed by these 'midgets' and two others have been wounded. Plus he is specialized in killing goblins. Thirdly, again show don't tell. "Show me how the incredibly obvious thing works." This is honestly what you're starting to sound like. It's been explained multiple times Because that's exactly what I'm saying. In a visual medium you need to show your audience the story you want to tell. |
Oct 21, 2018 12:54 PM
#321
i_hate_loli said: No its ok ill read the manga at some pointLolitsRetro said: So now we know the reason he does it. He has some sorta ptsd/trauma of his whole village getting plundered. I haven't read the manga so idk if this is true or not but im assuming his whole family was killed in the incident and someone was possibly raped u need some spoiler? |
Oct 22, 2018 12:58 AM
#322
Good episode and the gratuitous ass service at the start was amazing. Better than the fanservice in the whole of Darling in the FranXX. Now an 8. I'm so easy to please. |
Oct 22, 2018 2:10 PM
#323
Tuchari said: eWEQRW123123 said: I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. The first 2 episodes did a good job of establishing goblins are lower threats. Firstly, so far, goblins just seem to be unintelligent midgets. This immediately puts them as a lower threat than humans (because humans are bigger and smarter). There were quests about bandits, so humans are a problem. Secondly, the fact that the Goblin Slayer can kill so many of them on his own (22 in the first episode) is proof that most goblins are weak. Thirdly, it seems the Silver adventurers agree that goblins are weaker monsters compared to what they fight. For only 2 episodes, I think what they established so far is fine. Firstly, goblins seem to be unintelligent killer midgets who rape girls and breed incredibly fast. Seems like the biggest threat I've seen in the show so far. Yes, there are bandits. Could I know how much of a threat they are from just one line of exposition from a side character? The principle of show don't tell: show me why I should care, don't just tell me. Secondly, GS shows up after two humans have been killed by these 'midgets' and two others have been wounded. Plus he is specialized in killing goblins. Thirdly, again show don't tell. breed incredibly fast. "That was never shown only said" -- You. Good one, hypocrite. |
eWEQRW123123Oct 22, 2018 2:14 PM
People with low average anime scores don't have high standards. They are just bad at choosing good anime to watch. |
Oct 22, 2018 10:38 PM
#325
Tuchari said: Red_Ranger_Wien said: Tuchari said: eWEQRW123123 said: I was trying to say that the first two episodes haven't done a good job of establishing that they are more dangerous in my mind. We see more victims of goblins. The first 2 episodes did a good job of establishing goblins are lower threats. Firstly, so far, goblins just seem to be unintelligent midgets. This immediately puts them as a lower threat than humans (because humans are bigger and smarter). There were quests about bandits, so humans are a problem. Secondly, the fact that the Goblin Slayer can kill so many of them on his own (22 in the first episode) is proof that most goblins are weak. Thirdly, it seems the Silver adventurers agree that goblins are weaker monsters compared to what they fight. For only 2 episodes, I think what they established so far is fine. Firstly, goblins seem to be unintelligent killer midgets who rape girls and breed incredibly fast. Seems like the biggest threat I've seen in the show so far. Yes, there are bandits. Could I know how much of a threat they are from just one line of exposition from a side character? The principle of show don't tell: show me why I should care, don't just tell me. Secondly, GS shows up after two humans have been killed by these 'midgets' and two others have been wounded. Plus he is specialized in killing goblins. Thirdly, again show don't tell. "Show me how the incredibly obvious thing works." This is honestly what you're starting to sound like. It's been explained multiple times Because that's exactly what I'm saying. In a visual medium you need to show your audience the story you want to tell. The story the author wants to tell isn't concerned with the larger threats in the world. The story is about Goblin Slayer and his endless crusade against the goblins. It doesn't need to be shown that a dragon is a bigger threat than a goblin because it's so bloody obvious. I don't need the author to show me how the process of respiration works to accept that the characters can breathe. |
Oct 23, 2018 4:44 PM
#326
Watched first two eps back to back.. Not gonna lie, I'm intrigued with this anime. Goblin Slayer is quite interesting and now that we know what relation the pink haired girl is to him, I'd like to see her embedded in the storyline too. This anime isn't the greatest, but consider me hooked. I want to see more. |
Oct 24, 2018 4:41 AM
#327
Oct 24, 2018 10:56 AM
#328
This episode was better and it gave some insight to who the Goblin Slayer is...a lot of fan service too. I’m wondering if he will fall do the blonde girl he’s with now. Meh. We’ll see. I LOVE the opening theme. |
Oct 26, 2018 8:07 AM
#329
Pretty sister has the Goblin Slayer!!! kekeke Well, we now know the hard past and the angry of this man!!! kekeke |
Oct 27, 2018 1:05 AM
#330
Oct 28, 2018 4:12 AM
#331
I see the sister and I go "oH GOD the dead mom hari cut RIP" The cowgirls' voice is not really fitting for her but I'm ok with it The op is fitting for the series, it starts slow then picks up a little which is similar to the way the episodes themselves goes (so far) |
Oct 31, 2018 8:33 AM
#332
This is clearly not the best-adapted or best-written anime to ever exist, but surprisingly it's damn entertaining still. I didn't expect the level of fanservice, for sure. But I'll gladly appreciate it lol Also, in general, the character designs are very good. In all, I think this episode was a lot better than the first. |
Nov 1, 2018 5:39 PM
#333
I liked the first episode more, but it doesn't mean this one was bad. Slower-paced, but showed us more details about Goblin Slayer and the world he is living in. Also, the co-operation between Goblin Slayer and Onna Shinkan is getting more and more efficient, looking on how smooth the assault on the fort occupied by goblins was. |
Nov 1, 2018 7:53 PM
#334
Maybe its a bit lewd but this i the first remix about goblin slayer that has been made https://youtu.be/7DuCp3UWthU |
Nov 2, 2018 9:57 AM
#335
man... that is the most I've been engrossed in a single episode of anime in a LONG time. The episode was over and I felt like I had only watched 5 minutes of it. Goblin Slayer's monologue in particular really hooked me. I love a good monologue in my anime (or in general). The RPG presentation (the experience, the guilds, the separating into "classes," the quests, the armor) feels... superficial, like it's really not needed in this show, but it's not taking away from my experience I guess so whatever. |
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Nov 13, 2018 4:20 AM
#337
Nov 15, 2018 11:28 PM
#338
A lot of fan service looks like it's become more of a tradition than a choice in this type of shows, I mean, if you got away with showing rape scenes, any other sexual intercourse would be a piece of cake. I thought he would be that legendary feared and praised adventurer among the others, seems everybody despises him, even Goblins are viewed as that very newbie quest that's laughable to bring up in conversations, he's high ranking but still didn't have the respect of the other adventurers. I theorized before on how the Goblin Slayer could be a Goblin himself, it looks like he clearly wasn't given the presented flashback. I mean, it's a fantasy world, probably people can turn into Goblin? Maybe not? There is still room for controversy on why he never seems to show his face, in public at least. We've got an elf at the end, of course, elves do exist, she's got some company with her, and they didn't have a friendly face at all, time for trouble I guess. |
Nov 16, 2018 12:24 PM
#339
thebrentinator24 said: I didn't have a chance to say this in the first episode thread, but I really don't see what the big deal is with the "gore" in this show. I'm starting to think the words "gory" and "dark" are being used too loosely. I heard about all the craziness that was going on after the first episode and expected to see worse than what we actually got. Sure, the first episode was pretty fucked up, don't get me wrong, but to say that was dark? Come on, it wasn't even that bad, and again, I thought it was going to be 100x worse. Anyway, in terms of this episode, we got some backstory on why Goblin Slayer is like this and of course we got to see more goblin-killing action. There wasn't really anything bad in this episode compared to the first so hopefully the prudes can get through this one with no issues. Those words are definitely being used loosely. |
Nov 16, 2018 12:27 PM
#340
Laionidas said: kofmaster said: 2: Goblin Slayer armor isn't an expensive one. He use cheap, disposable, boring but efficient equipment. But that's my point: it seems rather silly to assume that more expensive armour just becomes fancier. You'd expect the expensive armours to also provide better protection and/or have a better protection to weight/manoeuvrability ratio. I can see why he would go purely for efficiency, but I won't buy the idea that all expensive armour provide nothing extra in that respect. He uses cheap armor because if he dies in battle, he doesn't want the goblins to get more valuable and better made equipment. |
Nov 16, 2018 1:38 PM
#341
UTJeff316 said: He uses cheap armor because if he dies in battle, he doesn't want the goblins to get more valuable and better made equipment. If this is for real it's still stupid: concerned for what'd happen when he dies, he rather increases his chances of dying (-_-) |
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Nov 16, 2018 3:17 PM
#342
Laionidas said: UTJeff316 said: He uses cheap armor because if he dies in battle, he doesn't want the goblins to get more valuable and better made equipment. If this is for real it's still stupid: concerned for what'd happen when he dies, he rather increases his chances of dying (-_-) Not really. Dwarf Shaman lays out pretty quickly why his cheap equipment is the best choice while dealing with goblins in the third episode. Mobile leather for ease of movement, chainmail for protection against sharp melee weapons, and small shield and sword for fighting in tight spaces. A chain mail shirt is just as effective against goblins as a mithril one, case in point it protected him from the dagger strike in the first episode. Helmet protected him from the rock sling in the second episode. Fancier more expensive tools don't always do the best job. Or you can still do a job just as effectively with the cheaper tools. Even in Food Wars, using the fanciest most expensive ingredients doesn't always win you the Food Wars match. Soma beat Mito in the bowl match when she used A5 grade beef. She used the highest quality level of ingredients you could find. Soma used the cheapest stuff he could get a a budget sale and it worked better for his dish. |
Nov 18, 2018 5:25 AM
#343
Oh. Some nice backstory of Goblin Slayer. Nicely narrated by him while Priestess is listening. This is the part in the manga where three female adventurers died trying to hunt goblins. Glad they didn't show it because it was sad. Looking forward in seeing the high elf and rest next episode. I don't know how much the anime can adapt the original, but we should be reminded its up to the anime staff on how they do it and that means they'll be cutting corners and skipping parts. Its best to watch this and other anime adaptations as stand alone. |
MagitoNov 18, 2018 5:57 AM
Nov 27, 2018 6:57 AM
#344
Dec 13, 2018 3:35 PM
#345
This episode felt more subtle than last one, but I appreciated how slow it was, really liking this so far. |
Dec 18, 2018 10:47 AM
#346
This show so far is very cut and dry. It seems like the main objectives of it so far have been to show the viewer how terrible the goblins are (but sometimes has seemingly random interjections giving them some humanity, i.e when the priestess somewhat objects to Goblin Slayer killing the goblin kids in ep. 1, and when she seems sad about them burning to death because of her protection spell in ep.2), and to expand on the Goblin Slayer's character through his back story and mentality. The latter is really the only thing I'm interested in right now and only slightly. While watching ep.2, I thought, "why should I care about this character's psychological condition? He isn't really relatable at all." I still hold this point. If episode three doesn't give me a good reason to care, I'll have to drop the show. |
Dec 29, 2018 8:02 AM
#347
Dec 29, 2018 4:38 PM
#348
That redhead only feeds our Goblin Slayer POTATO SOUP????? How is he supposed to have energy to adventure and kill filthy goblins xD smh Goblin Slayer is so concise when speaking with redhead, but talks more to his priestess party member haha. They make a pretty good team C: I also got a laugh from that one ikemen adventurer that was hitting on the guild receptionist xD Too bad Goblin Slayer is her favorite ;D ;D |
Jan 3, 2019 12:42 PM
#349
The OP was not the kind of OP I expected from a show such as Goblin Slayer. It's not bad, actually... It's actually pretty good! Although seeing the Elf, Nord and Argonian (Oblivion Reference) hyped me to see what will become of them. The ED is alright, felt more action here. This ep is a contrast to the previous one, although it got some dark scenes such as a brief backstory of Goblin Slayer when his village was raided by goblins, it feels more like the typical fantasy anime with some hot fanservice, but seeing Goblin Slayer in action, blazing Goblins' nest made that thought disappear. All these other Silver members that act as if Goblin Slayer is nothing compared to them when they should be thanking him for preventing Goblins from raiding their villages. That's pretty fucking annoying... |
ShadowkillZJan 3, 2019 12:45 PM
Jan 8, 2019 4:27 PM
#350
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