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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Even Fruits Basket has an episode with swimsuits :p I find it interesting that Saki and Arisa decided to once again pay another visit to Tohru similar to one of the previous episodes. Arisa is such a badass though, especially when she was an yankee. Definitely an interesting episode that showed more of her character's personality and connection with Tohru and even her mom. |
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| Finally got a little background on best girl. With no mom and a drunk of a father, you can see why she ended up in that delinquent life. |
| *Mourning the disappointment of The Promised Neverland season 2.* |
| Interesting to know that Arisa was part of a gang. They decided to buy a swimsuit for Tohru. We also got to see more of Tohru's mother. |
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| I really enjoyed this episode. I’m still not super happy about the change in order of events, but that didn’t detract from any enjoyment value. Plus it’s nice to see this animated since it was skipped in the ‘01 anime. Seeing the group shop for swim suits was funny, & I think Uo’s past is being done very well. I liked the addition of the older girl actually seeing where Tohru & Kyoko live. It adds to something that will come up next episode. Also, I’ve always enjoyed the middle school girls who want to get Uo in the present. And the after credits scene had me laughing so loud! It was great. Momiji defeats all!!! |
| Tohru's mom is the best! So sad how Uotani didn'd see that when she finally met her, but in this regard teens are stupid anyway especially when they're delinquents. Those after credits made my day. phantomfandom said: Two episodes for Uochan backstory? Bad decision why? |
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| It was nice watching Uochan's backstory. I can't but think about myself 13 years ago watching anime. These backstories were "normal" back then so I guess this one felt nostalgic in a way. I liked the episode. I wonder if they have to take 2 episodes for this though, but oh well. The pacing is fine as long as other stories get their time too. |
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| Hmmm, looks like this latest episode decided to skip ahead and cover Arisa's character backstory for a two-parter. Arisa's backstory was not originally depicted until later in the manga's 7th volume with Chapters 39-41, and didn't get any depiction in the 2001 anime beyond a passing mention from Arisa. This episode covers Chapter 39 and up to the middle of Chapter 40. For the most part, the episode was faithfully adapted, though the order of which Arisa explained her backstory got shuffled around a bit in this episode. Here were differences I spotted with this episode... -The opening depicting a younger Arisa entering her apartment at night was added for the anime. -The conversation that Arisa and Saki have over Tohru wearing a school swimsuit took place while the girls were in a locker room changing clothes in the manga instead of while observing Tohru swimming in the pool. -The comparison Arisa made of Tohru’s swimsuit situation was not visually depicted in the manga. -While Arisa talked with the Sohmas about getting Tohru a swimsuit, Kyo and Shigure were shown with clothes having pattern designs in the manga. Plus when Tohru arrives in the room in the manga, she has a more simpler dress on. Saki also has a more simpler dress she wears in the manga as well. -While shopping for Tohru’s swimsuit, Kyo and Yuki were shown standing up in the manga instead of sitting on a bench. -The brief shot showing Saki having Tohru share her thoughts of some swimsuits while Arisa goes after the Sohmas boys was added for the anime. -Before Yuki and Kyo argued over the kind of color they’d like for Tohru’s swimsuit, there was a pause between when they declared their colors and started their argument, where the boys and Arisa were depicted in stick figure form in the manga. -Tohru was more flustered in the manga when receiving her gift from Saki, Arisa, and the boys. -When Arisa mentions her past as part of a gang of delinquents, there is a bit removed where a stunned Kyo remarked about it and Arisa commenting that she was a bad girl back then. -When Arisa is describing her delinquent days, the flashback was depicted differently in the manga. Instead of showing her in a fight, Arisa is shown standing while a rain of black feathers fall around her. -All flashback scenes depicting Arisa as a middle school delinquent had her mask color being white in the manga instead of black. -The scene showing the delinquents spying on Tohru and her friends was depicted after Arisa explained about her first meeting with Kyoko and Tohru in the manga instead of before it. -The scene showing Tohru and friends getting their meals and Yuki asking Tohru about her mother’s past as a delinquent was added for the anime. In addition, Arisa’s story about how she met Tohru and Kyoko was told while the group were waiting for their meals in the manga. -All scenes depicting Kyoko as a delinquent riding on a motorcycle at night were added for the anime. -The delinquents in Arisa’s gang are not shown smoking cigarettes in the anime. -The bit showing Arisa being bewildered at the thought of Tohru being in the same middle school as her was added for the anime. -There were more students shown in the anime stepping on the books that Tohru was trying to pick up in the anime. -Upon learning that Tohru was Kyoko’s daughter in the manga, Arisa was threatening to punch Tohru in reaction to this. -When Kyoko meets up with Tohru and Arisa, she is shown to be wearing a long-length skirt in the manga instead of jeans. -Tohru’s line of what she was preparing for dinner when talking with her mother was added for the anime. -The scene showing Kyoko and Tohru noticing that Arisa forgot her mask was added for the anime. -One of Arisa’s gang members observing Arisa’s outburst at Tohru was added for the anime. -Some of the dialogue by Arisa explaining she is content with her life as a delinquent was added for the anime. -The visual depiction of Arisa’s mother leaving her as a child was added for the anime. -The scene showing Arisa returning home to observe her father watching TV and recalling her meeting with Kyoko and Tohru was expanded for the anime. -The scene depicting the three delinquent girls practicing verbal threats and running into Momiji was added for the anime. |
ggultra2764Jul 19, 2019 12:28 PM
That was a deep analysis, I usually don't like people constantly comparing original source to latest source but since you just established a complete list of every difference, that was readable. In my opinion, this is appreciated that they change aspects & scenes in this 2019 version, instead of doing a kind of "graphics lifting". This 16th episode was still interesting in its latest version, it probably came at time (not too late, not too early). |
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| So last episode was chapters 25-26 and this 2 episodes will be chapters 39-41. That's quite a skip. They better include everything they skipped in later episodes or I will be angry. About this episode, it's faithful to the manga and it wasn't in the old anime (they skipped Uotani's and Hanajima's backstories). The part after the ending with 3 delinquents and Momiji is a filler, but cute. I guess they need to add something if they are making 1.5 chapters into 1 episode. They expanded some scenes too. |
SailorVekiJul 19, 2019 4:28 PM
| Waiting for Gundam SEED Movie..... (ಥ‿ಥ) Waiting for Sailor Moon Cosmos..... o(≧▽≦)o |
| One of the reasons i enjoy this anime so much is because every character is so well thought out and developed and that was proven in this episode. Arisa had such a troubled past so im glad that she has a bright future now. I also love that Tohru's mum is such a presence throughout the show even though she's passed away... it's a nice way to remind us that even when someone's left us they're never really gone |
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Otorez said: That was a deep analysis, I usually don't like people constantly comparing original source to latest source but since you just established a complete list of every difference, that was readable. In my opinion, this is appreciated that they change aspects & scenes in this 2019 version, instead of doing a kind of "graphics lifting". This 16th episode was still interesting in its latest version, it probably came at time (not too late, not too early). I've been doing the comparisons since the series came out back in April. I do them more out of curiosity of what differences there are between the anime and manga for anyone interested to know, not to criticize every little detail changed up between the anime and manga. |
| Great episode, I loved to know more about how Tooru and Uo-chan first met. Poor Uo-chan though, being abandoned by her mother, and having to live with a neglectful and alcoholic father. Pretty much all alone in the world, just "falling" while getting used to bad things because there is no way to change them. It's awful, but I can't wait to see how Tooru and her mother are going to save her. The whole thing with the swimsuit was funny and precious too. That random lady blushing as well while Uo-chan asked Kyou and Yuki for their input was great. xD I agree that pink is perfect for Tooru though, but she would look great in orange or blue too. lol And I loved the scene after the ED with Momiji fending off those delinquents with his German. xD |
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| I can't think of something else other than that Tohru is adorable wearing that school swimsuit, but yes she definitely needs a proper one. Hanajima's swimsuit though, that's the shit!! So they are gonna look for a swimsuit for Tohru, with everyone. That was too funny... poor guys are so embarrassed. Hanajima is so awesome though, probably one of my favorite characters by now. Backstory of Arisa this episode about how she got to meet Tohru and Kyoko. I can definitely understand that meeting the person you look up to, not being the person you expected to be, can be frustrating. That post credit scene was hilarious.. |
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| Uotani backstory have my favorite scene in manga... was worried that they would rush things and tell with half episode... instead, they divided her story in 2 episodes, lol.... very glad Kisa1208 said: I liked the addition of the older girl actually seeing where Tohru & Kyoko live. It adds to something that will come up next episode. I thought the same when I saw the scene... nice detail |
| Really like that we're getting back story for Uotani now. The earlier I get invested in all these characters the better the payoff will be. I quite enjoyed this as well, and am happy it will be another episode. Post credits was pretty funny as well. |
I'm just going to leave this here. Hanajima was best girl since the very beginning, but I didn't know she's this sexy. |
Kamiyan3991 said: HNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHI'm just going to leave this here. Hanajima was best girl since the very beginning, but I didn't know she's this sexy. |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| That was a hella backstory of Uotani, I can't wait for more. Like how did Tohru exactly helped her to live a normal life. That post credit incident got me cracked up, Momo did that on purpose though! |
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| what a backstory! i really love how tohru saved uo-chan while uo-chan also saved tohru in a way - they both helped each other live normal lives. the swimsuit shopping was so adorable - i love how kyo and yuki are almost competing over her in their own little way lmao. lmao wtf was that post-credit scene? that was fucking HILARIOUS! momiji literally just speaking to them in german to scare them off was so good lol. |
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| Totally didn't think that Uotani would get her backstory so soon, considering the fact that the 2001 version left this out. And also understandsble if this episode were to exist at the last stretch of this 1st season, it would be very weird. So, time-skip ahead I guess? Regardless, this episode tearjerked me at the thought of Uotani Arisa's grown environment and the circumstances she has to face being a rebel. And how Tohru's mum completely broke her expectations and that leads to her life being astray. For the most part, it's faithful to the manga counterpart, and with the anime the impact multiples. Don't miss out the hilarious post-credits. Momiji is such a savage with his German accent. |
KANLen09Jul 19, 2019 11:31 PM
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| So this time its about the redemption of delinquent Uo-chan! 4/5. |
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| Dear Fruits Basket, don't try to be funny, you're terrible at it. Other than that, I get what the backstory was aiming for, but I don't think it worked as well as it should have, or at least it hasn't so far. After all, most of it is pretty damn obvious and easily inferrable from previous episodes (we already knew that she was a delinquent at some point and that her dad is/was an alcoholic, so the only actual new details we got were her meeting Tohru and Kyoko and the fact that her mum left when she was young). |
| Hana-chan is truly best girl. And Uo-chan's backstory was always the true feels. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
Tigergirl16 said: Can someone please tell me why they skip Kisa story? Kisa was suppose to be next, after the lake episode. Suppose if there's a benefit to how the earlier chapters of Fruits Basket are arranged, it allows for more flexible arrangement of plots for episodes when adapted to anime form since many of the earlier chapters are there to introduce characters and there isn't much plot development that has to be strictly adhered to for these earlier volumes. Besides, the anime isn't a rigidly faithful adaptation any who considering Momiji was introduced earlier than he was in the manga and the Hatori-focused chapters were adapted pretty similarly to the 2001 anime where they both get explored in the same setting instead of at separate times. |
| I find Uochan is one of my favourite female characters in fruit basket, so I don't mind a two episode backstory, I like it in fact! |
Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso is shit |
| Hana-chan in swimsuit is good civilization. Kyou's reaction to being brought to the swimsuit store is priceless. xD I figured Uo-chan would've been a delinquent and part of a gang. Really looking forward to see how the rest of her backstory plays out and how Tohru played a role in her life. Gotta be prepared for the feels next week. |
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| I wonder what Tohru's swimsuit looks like Uotani's back story is fucking amazing, very detailed down to the last second. you can feel what she felt when she was in middle school. even though I never really got in that phase it somehow feels relatable to me. also the scene after the ed is hilarious. can someone please translate what he said in german??? thank you very much lmao |
| I didn't expect Uotani's past so early. I can predict that before this season ends the anime will adapt Saki's past also. If they put effort to put Uotani, why Saki not? I was expecting the next episode of the manga. I mean, a new member of Souma family. A little girl, a little tiger. |
| Tohru was cute on a school swimsuit but I'm sure she'll look gorgeous on the swimsuit she got. Glad to see more about Uo and Kyoko-san |
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| I did not watch the original anime and have not read the manga so I was so elated to see Kyoko Honda is the story!! So much mystery around her and seeing her action brought so much satisfaction. Uo-chan deserves two episodes. She my other kiss ass tall girl with a big heart crush with Lita from Sailor Moon being the first. I hope Hana-chan get's a two story arc too. Tohru being the daughter of the former leader of a biker gang will never cease to amaze me. Uo-chan's initial disappointment that Tohru wasn't a fellow biker too was hilarious. I am happy to know Uo-chan is better adjusted in the present and I like we're getting to see that change through actually story - and it seems it happen before Kyoko passed away. |
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| Hanajima in that swimsuit... I can honestly die a happy man right now. And damn! I never even suspected that she would have that good of a figure. How I wish I could meet a girl like her. |
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Atavistic said: The backstory was meant to show her meeting with Tohru and Kyoko and how Tohru saved her from the delinquent life and why she admires Kyoko so much. It was meant to show how she became who she is now. I like the comedy in this show, but everyone has their own preferences when it comes to comedy.Dear Fruits Basket, don't try to be funny, you're terrible at it. Other than that, I get what the backstory was aiming for, but I don't think it worked as well as it should have, or at least it hasn't so far. After all, most of it is pretty damn obvious and easily inferrable from previous episodes (we already knew that she was a delinquent at some point and that her dad is/was an alcoholic, so the only actual new details we got were her meeting Tohru and Kyoko and the fact that her mum left when she was young). |
"In the End, Only Kindness Matters" -Jewel |
| Uo chans backstory is full of emotions and also looks like theres more to her story that will be shown in next epi. I wonder how her story will go. |
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Kamiyan3991 said: I'm just going to leave this here. Hanajima was best girl since the very beginning, but I didn't know she's this sexy. She has always been the most attractive to me plus those curves. DAYUUUUM! My review for this episode below: Anyways, this is only the first season, there will be a second or even third one I'm not sure but it says right there in the OP that this is the first season so they can fit most of the story in the manga and take time with it. Tbh, Uo-chan isn't my fave but I like her. I enjoy seeing her backstory but at the same time, they can't cram it into one episode. There are many characters that they have yet to introduce that I am excited to see in this new adaptation. Many of them who never appeared in the first Anime adaptation. |
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Youukey said: I understand why they decided to put uo's back story earlier. In the manga, uo-chan's backstory took place a year later, in the summer of their 3rd grade, just before the summer house arc. If they put it just like the original manga, it will be in the last episode of the 1st season. And all I can say is, it's a bit weird for a seasonal ending. Moving it later after the summerhouse arc would be weird too, since the story would already became more serious. Moreover, if they had to move uo-chan's backstory part, it should still took place in summer to match the theme. Hence, it's moved a year earlier in story plot, just before Kisa's appearance that took place in fall, to match the summer theme. After all, uo-chan's back story doesn't link with any major developments of the plot. So it wouldn't be a problem to move it to the earlier part of the story. I heard that hana's backstory would be moved to the 1st season as well? I think it's not a problem, too. Same with uo's backstory, hana's backstory doesn't link with any major development of the plot. So I think it can be put anywhere it fits. I agree. The 2001 anime excluded it imo because it didn’t flow well. To me rearranging snippets of stories are okay as long as it doesn’t hinder the over all narrative. Where did you hear that they’re moving Hana’s backstory to season 1? Just curios. Personally I’m really excited for Kyo’s/Sensei’s part coming up. I’m curious if they’ll split it up as they did Uo’s backstory. I’m just happy they animated it. |
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| Tooru swimsuit episode! Uo-chan past and more of it in the next episode I guess. |
| I wasn't expecting to see Uotani's backstory to be explained since it appears a bit later on in the manga, but since the original 2001 anime never really covered this backstory, I'm more than happy to seeing it animated at last. =) Before we dived into Uotani's backstory, we did get to see plenty of girls in the swimming pool at school with their respective swimsuit/bikini. Tohru looked cute in her school swimsuit and Uotani's bikini was sexy and awesome. However, Hanajima's black swimsuit was simply perfection as it hugged her curves beautifully and showed off her nicely-sized breasts, too! =P The main draw of the episode was the explanation into Uotani's backstory and her life as being part of a gang and regularly bunking off from school and having a poor relationship with her constantly drunk father. She was happy at meeting Kyoko at first, after admiring her past as the Crimson Butterfly, but after seeing her all mellow and relaxed with Tohru, it made Uotani very confused and pissed off. Her backstory will continue into next week's episode, but there was an after-credits scene with Momiji confusing the hell out of three thug girls that was pretty funny. =3 |
| Arisa's backstory for two episode arc wow. So much chara development for each individual. I really wanted to see how she found salvation and the truth to Toohru's mom's legend. Btw German language is more scary than any threat eh XD BLaCkGuN69 said: Kamiyan3991 said: HNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGHHHI'm just going to leave this here. Hanajima was best girl since the very beginning, but I didn't know she's this sexy. Wagamama body eh XD |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| I really like backstories...nice |
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Hana can get it... I was barely hitting puberty when I first watched Fruits Basket so maybe that's why I didn't notice, but looking back she's always been very attractive. Definitely peeped it a few times in the remake. |
SJ7izmJul 21, 2019 10:37 AM
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