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| THAT OPENING IS STRAIGHT FUCKING FIRE, LITERALLY WHAT BERSERK SHOULD'VE BEEN WIT WHAT TH EFUCK PLEASE ANIMATE BERSERK |
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| WOW! Characters are really nice ,animation also Let's go with second ep ;) |
wxjpjgsvne said: WIT LITERALLY SAVED THE YEAR. God, what a first episode. how can you do shingeki season 3 part 2 with literally episodes on top of best episodes of all time on imdb BACK TO BACK WITH THIS SHIT? WIT IS BASED, BASED CARRYING THE DEGENERATE ANIME INDUSTRY ON THEIR BACK |
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| Sooooo.....they skipped the first chapters......awkward |
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Mattinator95 said: yes they did, the anime skipped the first 2 chapter, and chose to adapt the flashback first (chapter 3 - 16)I looked at the first few pages of the manga and looks like they are rearranging scenes ??? |
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| Ohhh that was interesting! I'm worried for the family though. We all know Dad is good as dead... But I'm pretty sure sister and mother have a pretty awful fate ahead of them. |
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| The animation is infinitely better than most of the shows this season... Wow, what a great start. |
| The CG at the start kinda scared me but after that everything else was great. OP was pretty intense and had some really nice animation. The ED was really nice, Aimer has such a nice voice. Definitely pulled me in with the first episode, time to binge the rest. |
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elementex said: waifus are for autistic peoplestand said: ^Most likely place for that trash is up your own ass. I really enjoyed this. Best 1st episode of the season that i've seen. Though expectations will be tempered because I know how quickly anime can take a bad turn. Looks great now too but I also expect that to dip as well. Excited for Askeladd and teen Thorfinn. No thanks, I am not into that Sarazanmai type of stuff. But if you are, hey you do you. |
nanashi796Jul 9, 2019 2:06 AM
| To any of you manga readers out there, I know that this episode covered what was chapter 3/4 (I think) of the manga... was it a wise move? Or should they have adapted how it was in the manga, showing the present and not the past? I only skimmed through chap. 1 so I'm wondering how someone who's properly read it feels about how they went about adapting it. I think throwing us into a first episode with Thorfinn grown up might've been a cool enterance to the series, with the backstory coming later. Basically did the anime fuck up here or is this new structure good? Actually I should probably just shut up and watch episodes 2 and 3. |
Mesacboy said: To any of you manga readers out there, I know that this episode covered what was chapter 3/4 (I think) of the manga... was it a wise move? Or should they have adapted how it was in the manga, showing the present and not the past? I only skimmed through chap. 1 so I'm wondering how someone who's properly read it feels about how they went about adapting it. I think throwing us into a first episode with Thorfinn grown up might've been a cool enterance to the series, with the backstory coming later. Basically did the anime fuck up here or is this new structure good? Actually I should probably just shut up and watch episodes 2 and 3. This episode covered chapters 3 and 4. As whether what's better, I can't really tell. I think both approaches are good. |
| great start. Loving the setting and the animation. Also why are people saying that the CGI was bad, it looks great. |
Niello said: If he did that he would've incited a fight with Halfdan, which will most likely result in deaths. That's stupid. That runaway slave is still Halfdan's property. If they catch that Thor euthanised him that would've caused a huge problem. And how would they prove it? You just have to say he died in his sleep due to hypothermia or do you think they'd perform an autopsy in the 9th century? |
youthful said: Good and watchable so far. I'm loving Thors and little Thorfinn. Not so fond of the cgi. Opening and ending are easily skippable for me; especially the opening sequence 'cause of the song. If there is a metal song I can't skip that is Virgin Soul's "Let It End". CGI was fine in my view, better than the majority of shows these days. |
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Mucosa said: Sooooo.....they skipped the first chapters......awkward Don't think so. There is footage from the first few chapters in one (or many?) of the promotional videos they have released. They just rearranged stuff. We'll likely get that content in episode 5. It's not content that can be skipped. |
| Awesome,the action kinda reminds me of aot and beserk but in its own unique way |
"those who aren't able to find a more miserable person than themselves turn to the internet and call others losers,even though they've never met"- Satou from nhk |
| A solid start with good fights. Let's see where that goes Thors should've either mercy killed the slave or gave him away. It was very easy to see that the guy hadn't had much time left. He would probably be dead by the time they brought him back to torture him anyway. Wasting livestock like that probably isn't a good idea in the harsh environment that is Iceland. |
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Orhunaa said: A solid start with good fights. Let's see where that goes Thors should've either mercy killed the slave or gave him away. It was very easy to see that the guy hadn't had much time left. He would probably be dead by the time they brought him back to torture him anyway. Wasting livestock like that probably isn't a good idea in the harsh environment that is Iceland. It's certainly illogical, however, I think the purpose is to show and more clearly define Thors' character. As for the episode, It was a strong showing. We'll just have to see if they can keep up the momentum. |
Wicker_Senpai93 said: Orhunaa said: A solid start with good fights. Let's see where that goes Thors should've either mercy killed the slave or gave him away. It was very easy to see that the guy hadn't had much time left. He would probably be dead by the time they brought him back to torture him anyway. Wasting livestock like that probably isn't a good idea in the harsh environment that is Iceland. It's certainly illogical, however, I think the purpose is to show and more clearly define Thors' character. As for the episode, It was a strong showing. We'll just have to see if they can keep up the momentum. Yeah, yeah I agree. I think the point was to accentuate the change of heart of Thors and the abandonment of his old ways and I think it works as intended albeit a tad on the nose. |
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| An interesting anime. The transition between the years wasn't bad. Curious if that blond haired character at the end was the son...it probably is. The OP was good but not my taste. Can't wait to see what happens in this anime. |
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Orhunaa said: Wicker_Senpai93 said: It's certainly illogical, however, I think the purpose is to show and more clearly define Thors' character. As for the episode, It was a strong showing. We'll just have to see if they can keep up the momentum. Yeah, yeah I agree. I think the point was to accentuate the change of heart of Thors and the abandonment of his old ways and I think it works as intended albeit a tad on the nose. Agreed, it works well but I'd say it was a little more than a tad on the nose. I think they could've made it seem less stupid if Thors had bargained a little more. Mabye six 🐑 instead of eight 🐑? It's still an irresistible deal. That way it wouldn't seem like Thors was putting the life of a dying slave above the needs of his own family. |
Grim1952 said: Great animation and very good use CGI, i'd have euthanised the slave with a pillow while he was halucinating tbh, wasting 8 goats... there's a difference between kindness and foolishness. That does not fit the narrative of a man who fought so hard to resuscitate him in the first place. Unless of course you just think murdering guys is okay like you seem to think... |
Jokuc said: Great first episode. I liked the OST and the sounds. The visuals are also amazing. I don't think the CGI is perfect but it is way better than what you see in most other anime. As a Swede this is a lot of fun to see, it's so cool to hear them mention parts of history. For those of you who don't know, Leif was a real person (though they spelled his name wrong, it's supposed to be with a K not C. And two S) and Vinland was a real thing (it's called Canada nowadays). I love how they went into such detail that the flowers they show on the ground are flowers that are very common in Scandinavia and the nordic countries. I must say I don't really like the opening, neither the song (I don't like screaming) or the visuals (would have liked to see something more symbolic rather than battles), would have been cooler to get something that fit the viking theme more. ED is good though. As a swede, what do you think about vikings with japanese manners?  fotos full hd It doesnt make any sense to me. What about the mind set of viking society? Do you think that´s the way vikings look at the slaves? What about the social scale? what are the mc and the bad guy? Jarls ? hersirs ? I cant understand why there are some many people hyped with this and rating the show as a masterpiece when its clear that who created this story dont know anything about the vikings, and its a shame that someone could even think that this show had the same quality as the HBO series. |
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Gingko said: Jokuc said: Great first episode. I liked the OST and the sounds. The visuals are also amazing. I don't think the CGI is perfect but it is way better than what you see in most other anime. As a Swede this is a lot of fun to see, it's so cool to hear them mention parts of history. For those of you who don't know, Leif was a real person (though they spelled his name wrong, it's supposed to be with a K not C. And two S) and Vinland was a real thing (it's called Canada nowadays). I love how they went into such detail that the flowers they show on the ground are flowers that are very common in Scandinavia and the nordic countries. I must say I don't really like the opening, neither the song (I don't like screaming) or the visuals (would have liked to see something more symbolic rather than battles), would have been cooler to get something that fit the viking theme more. ED is good though. As a swede, what do you think about vikings with japanese manners? fotos full hd It doesnt make any sense to me. What about the mind set of viking society? Do you think that´s the way vikings look at the slaves? What about the social scale? what are the mc and the bad guy? Jarls ? hersirs ? I cant understand why there are some many people hyped with this and rating the show as a masterpiece when its clear that who created this story dont know anything about the vikings, and its a shame that someone could even think that this show had the same quality as the HBO series. You're talking out of your ass, completely. |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: Gingko said: As a swede, what do you think about vikings with japanese manners? fotos full hd It doesnt make any sense to me. What about the mind set of viking society? Do you think that´s the way vikings look at the slaves? What about the social scale? what are the mc and the bad guy? Jarls ? hersirs ? I cant understand why there are some many people hyped with this and rating the show as a masterpiece when its clear that who created this story dont know anything about the vikings, and its a shame that someone could even think that this show had the same quality as the HBO series. You're talking out of your ass, completely. So could you explain to me why this show is a good adaptation of the viking society/culture? and why I am wrong? I guess you are an expert . that´s why I´m fuckin asking, cause I want to know. |
GingkoJul 9, 2019 8:11 PM
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| That opening scene was incredibly animated. Beautiful as hell. I went in not knowing what to expect, came out pleasantly surprised. I like the parallelism with the real world, too, but I'm really interested to see where this goes. |
  We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think? ------------------------------------ Itachi Uchiha |
Gingko said: So could you explain to me why this show is a good adaptation of the viking society/culture? and why I am wrong? I guess you are an expert . that´s why I´m fuckin asking, cause I want to know. It's not going for 100% historical accuracy. It's using the time period, groups of people, and different countries to tell a fictional story. Liberties are going to be taken in some areas. The example you gave was the epitome of a nitpick btw. |
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| So that´s what you were talking about. I´m fussy just when a show tries to take itself serious like this one does. Also if the show is the second in the airing rate list in MAL. I´m not expecting 100% accurancy, but that kind of things I cant ignore. But if we have to do it just cause the show has nice art, blood and fights I guess I should take off my adult eyes and put the teen eyes, so nobody will get pissed off. |
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Gingko said: So that´s what you were talking about. I´m fussy just when a show tries to take itself serious like this one does. Also if the show is the second in the airing rate list in MAL. I´m not expecting 100% accurancy, but that kind of things I cant ignore. But if we have to do it just cause the show has nice art, blood and fights I guess I should take off my adult eyes and put the teen eyes, so nobody will get pissed off. I don't even understand what exactly you're complaining about at this point. |
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TsukuyomiREKT said: Gingko said: So that´s what you were talking about. I´m fussy just when a show tries to take itself serious like this one does. Also if the show is the second in the airing rate list in MAL. I´m not expecting 100% accurancy, but that kind of things I cant ignore. But if we have to do it just cause the show has nice art, blood and fights I guess I should take off my adult eyes and put the teen eyes, so nobody will get pissed off. I don't even understand what exactly you're complaining about at this point. Yeah, you are right it was just personal stuff and I relived some things I use to discuss with my mates, mb, lmao. whatever you got a point. |
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| Between Dr. Stone, Fire Force, and now this, Summer 2019 is going to be a fantastic season for action. Good shit. We get an amazing action scene literally 60 seconds in. What the fuck. I loved the choreography and camera work. The CG was really good in comparison to what I have seen, even this season (looking at you, Arifureta). If I remember correctly, isn't Vinland North America? Where is Leif keeping his tobacco for the pipe? As someone who absolutely despises the cold, that blizzard made me nervous. Was he polishing the boat? I'm not very knowledgeable about the daily chores of Vikings. How did Leif get out of that situation? You can't leave me hanging like that. That Halfdan guy ripped the NPC's off was fucking brutal. Thors is such a badass, sacrificing eight sheep to let a slave die in peace. I love him. |
| Holy sh*t this anime so fcking awesome. Yeah they using aimer in ending song. |
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| Long live Leif Erikson, the first cultural appropriator!! This adaptation is closing with a flourish this decade and can´t be more excited. 3 episodes in a row its the comfiest thing ever. |
MichaelJacksonMar 13, 2020 11:29 PM
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ChainxBastard said: Autopsies have been around since 300 B.C. That aside, do you really expect a man of Thors character to murder a slave in front of his family, then attempt to lie about it and cover it up? Euthanasia isn't murder, and i was talking about the smart thing to do. About autopsies you're barely right, there are records from 3000BC, but since the roman empire fell there were barely performed until 1200, on vikings specifically i see no info on them having nowhere near enough medical knowledge to perform an autopsy. If this wasn't fantasy, losing 8 healthy young goats was enough for your whole family to die of famine. |
Gingko said: As a swede, what do you think about vikings with japanese manners? What about the mind set of viking society? Do you think that´s the way vikings look at the slaves? What about the social scale? what are the mc and the bad guy? Jarls ? hersirs ? I cant understand why there are some many people hyped with this and rating the show as a masterpiece when its clear that who created this story dont know anything about the vikings, and its a shame that someone could even think that this show had the same quality as the HBO series. I have not read the manga so I don't know if the anime deviates from that in any way, but judging from people's reactions on the show I will assume not. This is a Japanese show made primarily for a Japanese audience, it's very hard for a director to notice when they accidentally include everyday manners from their own culture. Just look at American movies trying to depict events that takes place in other countries, they still do the typical American thing where all people cheer, stand up and clap their hands when someone is successful with something. I facepalm every time. It can be subtle things we do unconsciously such as how Europeans keep the fork in the same hand while eating while Americans usually switch hand for the fork from cutting to eating. Vinland Saga is also an animated series, they can make slight changes to history or make things up to fit the story. This isn't a huge 40 million dollar budget HBO production, I doubt the team behind it has time and resources to go in-depth with viking research or hire a professional. I'm going to assume they take most of the facts from the source material. I'm no expert on viking history just cause I'm Swedish so you're probably just better off reading about it yourself if you want answers. That being said, from the little I do know I think they captured aspects from viking culture very well. "it's clear that who created this story don't know anything about the vikings" you say, but you ignore the fact that a lot of characters in the story are based on real people, which means the writer of the manga must surely have read some history about it. The author correctly excludes the silly horns commonly shown on their helmets which the vikings never used in battle and they correctly say that vikings bathe on Saturdays. As for slaves I'm not exactly sure what you mean, afaik there's not a huge amount of information regarding viking slaves in Scandinavia other than that they were used for farming and the creation of runestones. About how they try to help the slave in the show from the mean guy with the chains, I don't think they are suggesting that there were people back then being this nice to slaves, it's obviously just because of the father's personality and desire to help people. I just took a look at an article and read that there is a runestone in Denmark raised by a former slave which says his master released him and gave him money for outstanding work, so I wouldn't say it's an impossible situation. I think you should approach this series with the mindset that it is a work of fiction and not a documentary drama. |
JokucJul 10, 2019 4:25 AM
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Jokuc said: Gingko said: As a swede, what do you think about vikings with japanese manners? What about the mind set of viking society? Do you think that´s the way vikings look at the slaves? What about the social scale? what are the mc and the bad guy? Jarls ? hersirs ? I cant understand why there are some many people hyped with this and rating the show as a masterpiece when its clear that who created this story dont know anything about the vikings, and its a shame that someone could even think that this show had the same quality as the HBO series. I have not read the manga so I don't know if the anime deviates from that in any way, but judging from people's reactions on the show I will assume not. This is a Japanese show made primarily for a Japanese audience, it's very hard for a director to notice when they accidentally include everyday manners from their own culture. Just look at American movies trying to depict events that takes place in other countries, they still do the typical American thing where all people cheer, stand up and clap their hands when someone is successful with something. I facepalm every time. It can be subtle things we do unconsciously such as how Europeans keep the fork in the same hand while eating while Americans usually switch hand for the fork from cutting to eating. Vinland Saga is also an animated series, they can make slight changes to history or make things up to fit the story. This isn't a huge 40 million dollar budget HBO production, I doubt the team behind it has time and resources to go in-depth with viking research or hire a professional. I'm going to assume they take most of the facts from the source material. I'm no expert on viking history just cause I'm Swedish so you're probably just better off reading about it yourself if you want answers. That being said, from the little I do know I think they captured aspects from viking culture very well. "it's clear that who created this story don't know anything about the vikings" you say, but you ignore the fact that a lot of characters in the story are based on real people, which means the writer of the manga must surely have read some history about it. The author correctly excludes the silly horns commonly shown on their helmets which the vikings never used in battle and they correctly say that vikings bathe on Saturdays. As for slaves I'm not exactly sure what you mean, afaik there's not a huge amount of information regarding viking slaves in Scandinavia other than that they were used for farming and the creation of runestones. About how they try to help the slave in the show from the mean guy with the chains, I don't think they are suggesting that there were people back then being this nice to slaves, it's obviously just because of the father's personality and desire to help people. I just took a look at an article and read that there is a runestone in Denmark raised by a former slave which says his master released him and gave him money for outstanding work, so I wouldn't say it's an impossible situation. I think you should approach this series with the mindset that it is a work of fiction and not a documentary drama. Do you have an idea of how many people have seen the scene while they were working on it? editors, producers, animators... its a lot of people and none of them noticed the ridiculousness of it. I knew there are a couple of real names in the show and the horns stuff is common knowledge, they did some good stuff there, but that´s dont change the fact that they screw up with others. The MC paid 8 sheeps for a dead body from a slave, it just doesnt make any sense, a guy could be kind with the slaves in some way, yeah, but the MC act like the fuckin Jesus. The ethic and morality are social construction so the sensibilty of character must accomplish his social/cultural standards, that´s what a good character does, Anyway, I wont be able to enjoy this show, its ok , its my problem. I´m used to accept that a lot of poor shows are highly rated by the majority of anime fans. |
GingkoJul 10, 2019 8:06 AM
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Gingko said: I'm sorry, I just want to correct something here : he's not a MC.The MC paid 8 sheeps for a dead body from a slave, it just doesnt make any sense, a guy could be kind with the slaves in some way, yeah, but the MC act like the fuckin Jesus. The ethic and morality are social construction so the sensibilty of character must accomplish his social/cultural standards, that´s what a good character does, |
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| @Gingko The ethic and morality are social construction so the sensibilty of character must accomplish his social/cultural standards, that´s what a good character does, Lol you're telling me not once did you think he deviated from the norm? Not after his daughter asked him to take slaves, and he refused? Fair enough, I'm sure there won't be any reasonYou also do not even give the story a chance to give any exposition, this is the first episode, you're assuming way too much. You say there isn't any reseach done on the basis of what? Information not yet given because there was no need for it in the content and context of this episode? Why do you already need to know who everyone is? In that scene they are next to his body and giving him treatment, nitpicking to its finest lmao. Wdym Japanese manners? In none of the other scenes are they sitting like that. You really thought you noticed a flaw here huh? I rewatched a bit of the first episode and yep kids are sitting on the floor without care, adults sit on a bench etc. I don't know how you can go out of your way to screenshot this, not think twice about it, and insult your own intelligence telling everyone the creators are dumb and made a mistake by implementing Japanese manners. They put his body close to the fire because he was frozen, they want to help him so they sit as close as possible. @TsukuyomiREKT @Jokuc You're not wrong lmao, without thinking about it he was convinced it was a flaw. Normally I don't care but when he himself makes a big deal out of it insulting the creators nah bro. They have furniture and were only sitting like that to aid a dying man laying on the floor. Unless there's any research people not born in Japan are unable to move their body in a position like that there's no flaw to be found here. |
EsquirtitJul 10, 2019 10:07 AM
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