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| Glad to see others have already pointed out what I've been thinking. I think this adaptation is ultimately trying to combine the old anime with the manga...? But it's just ended up feeling hella strange. For example, the old one combined Hatori's story into 1 episode, just as it did here. Unlike the original though, it did follow some details from the manga. Unfortunately, by doing this, the pacing is messed up, which makes the emotion and the character dynamics have less impact... In both the original and the manga, when Kana finds out about Hatori being a seahorse, it felt like he knew it was inevitable and just let it happen because his trust and his feelings for Kana were that deep. In this version, it seemed like an accident, an event Hatori was trying to avoid (shown by him rejecting her kiss... which isn't a scene shown in the other two). Both Kana and Hatori felt/seemed like more slow and gentle characters than depicted here, where it goes by so fast that Hatori comes across as more angsty than he is + we don't even get to enjoy our time with Kana since they slid right over her cheerfulness and playful nature. The setting where Hatori erases Kana's memory is obscure in the manga. I personally took the snow falling around them as symbolic over literal, because of how it was illustrated. It's just darkness and snow, perfect for representing how Hatori is feeling. No trees or lamps or anything like that. I appreciate how the old one put them inside closed walls -an empty, intimate space- with the snow falling outside. Here, the bandage coming off his eye irritated me because it felt like they were forcing the drama (it's a bandage, not a feather, why is it falling like that omg) and them literally being in the snow with what they're wearing made no sense to me. They kept Tohru and Hatori inside the Souma family area and randomly Kana pops out of nowhere?? She's still there after 2 years, what? In the manga, this happenstance is better excused by the setting being somewhere in the city, and Kana is actually visiting Tokyo after a long time. The car scene also bothered me. There's no way Tohru would be able to get a good look and tell that's Akito in the car. Being at a window is a more mysterious and beautiful way of showing tension imo. |
CMYKMay 17, 2019 5:12 PM
| Although this version is beautiful I'm completely biased with the old version. I loved this episode but the old version made me bawl like a baby... Anyway Momiji BEST BOY in all Versions! Can't wait for his episode, really. |
ワンダーランド花 ♥ |
| Great episode. Hattori's backstory was so sad. :( I feel really bad for the guy, having to erase the memories he loved from the person he loved the most and relegating himself to be nothing but a bystander in Kana's life. At least he's happy that Kana has found happiness. I liked the parallel between Tohru and Kana this episode especially at the very end when she says, after winter spring comes. :) I would like to know more about Akito and why he lashed out the way he did back then. That final Tohru smile in this episode was so purifying. <3 |
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| The emotions are uncontrolable anymore poor Hatori, I despised him so much after that phone call last episode, I was trully mistaken of how much of a good guy he was. |
| I was about to hate Hatori, but this episode has changed my perception of him as I thought he was those stuck characters that like to control others. His backstory carried more emotions and tragic, he's actually a great guy but I wished he defied the family particularly Akito and married Kana anyway. Speaking of Akito, I want to see the jerk, he sounds like a pain in the ass guy. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| This show keeps getting better and better! that is such an emotional tragic event for Hattori's past especially for her loved one! 5/5. |
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| Wow, that was really a very strong & deep part of Hatori's past we learnt this week... his cold face was actually built on a very tragic reason. I'm a bit disappointed that Akito & Tohru won't meet next week (most likely), I thought they would have a proper discussion instead of a quick staring clip. |
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| Tell me the curse. TELL ME THE CURSE GOD DAMNIT. Really enjoyed this episode too. I thought Hatori was gonna do something super no bueno but he really just wanted to be a good guy. His backstory was so sad though... Hopefully, he finds happiness by the conclusion of this show. Also, this Akito guy is seeming more and more fucked. |
| Best episode by far but man I'm pissed. There's obviously more to this story and the whole curse thing cause god that's fucked up. How could you not blame Akito in that situation. What a total prick. I'd bet he thinks Tooru might be able to break the curse which is why he's letting her hang around, but still fuck that guy right now. |
| I think a good thing to remember for everyone is that right now, the audience is supposed to know as much about the curse as Tohru does. She literally asks Shigure at the end “What is the curse?” And he says its not time to tell her or something like that. So for the previous fans who know the whole story, like me, we have to remember this and not get annoyed or angry because newer fans don’t understand all the hidden meanings so far. For example: And for new anime only watchers, it’s good to remember that this is still very early in the story. This info comes from chapters 10&12, out of 136 total. Your questions are not meant to be answered yet, and you will learn more about the curse as Tohru learns more. I do hope that the wait for this does not hurt your enjoyment factor. |
| great episode I like how they started to introduce more layers and mystery to the "curse"... and they casually showed a glimpse of an important character =D anyway, I like better when they dedicate a full episode to one story... the pacing in this one feels more "normal" (the last one was a little rushed) |
| This chapter in the manga always made me so sad inside. The anime did a really good job at capturing all the sorts of emotions in this episode. I can’t wait for all the unadapted chapters of Akito to be adapted. I’ve been waiting so long for them and I can’t wait !!! |
| Oscar and Andre deserved better |
Kisa1208 said: I think a good thing to remember for everyone is that right now, the audience is supposed to know as much about the curse as Tohru does. She literally asks Shigure at the end “What is the curse?” And he says its not time to tell her or something like that. So for the previous fans who know the whole story, like me, we have to remember this and not get annoyed or angry because newer fans don’t understand all the hidden meanings so far. For example: And for new anime only watchers, it’s good to remember that this is still very early in the story. This info comes from chapters 10&12, out of 136 total. Your questions are not meant to be answered yet, and you will learn more about the curse as Tohru learns more. I do hope that the wait for this does not hurt your enjoyment factor. exactly all what I was thinking reading the comments... thank you, XD |
| I hope Hatori gets his spring again soon and really looking forward to seeing what Akito's deal with. |
| I wish they used "For Fruits Basket" song as the insert song here, because I remember hearing that song as a background song in the old anime moved me more emotionally... might only be me because I still love the old song. And that foreshadowing when Momiji's figure was shown after the crying Yuki when Hatori recalled how he erased others' memories without caring if it would hurt the other Zodiac members... can't wait for my baby Momiji's background story! It was already revealed how Yuki had Hatori erase the memories of his first friends, but Momiji's case has never been brought up until this episode. I like Akito's VA tbh... no problem so far. And that glimpse of an important character in the car!! Although I prefer the old anime where Akito was observing Tohru and Tohru noticed this... |
ggultra2764 said: Kimurah said: I really don't like the way Okitsu Kazuyuki voices Hatori's lines, he sounds so monotonous and lifeless. All of his lines sound the same in terms of emotion, he almost sounds like a "shonen character" trying to sound badass, and that really ticks me off. Inoue Kazuhiko had a threatening but softer voice and also was able to portray regret and sorrow in the most important moments of Hatori's arc. I actually have to agree with this point. The new VA for Hatori seems to lack the expressive range of emotions that Hatori's old VA demonstrated in the older Fruits Basket. New Hatori sounded too stern and emotionless, and that effected how his scenes came across for this episode. I agree!! His monotonous tone bothered me so much. But it's not because the VA lacks the expressive range. I loved him in Brothers Conflict, but his voice sounded two octaves higher there. I think he can't express much cause he's forcibly using the lower range of his voice. What a shame... Hatori's a great character. This adaptation has been perfect up until now... But well, maybe he'll get better in later episodes. |
| Hatori called Tooru to try and make her leave Shigure's house in order to protect her and Kyou/Yuki, so that they wouldn't have to go through something similar to the suffering him and Hana went through. His approach seemed harsh at first, but Momiji made sure he was understood. And I remembered that Hatori had a lover and that things didn't work out for them, but I didn't remember the details well. I won't harshly judge Akito, not yet as it wouldn't be really fair, but his reaction was so infuriating. He seems to be emotionally unstable, and he assaulted Hana, and almost made Hatori lose an eye by shoving him. And he even blamed her for it, what "worked well" because she was never the same again. To make things worse he suggested "freeing" her to Hatori with a smile, not sparing a thought to what he did to what they once had. He might have suffered a lot too, and he might have "reasons" for reacting like this, but the way he dealt with the situation was still too much. Welp, Hatori is the dragon, actually a really cute seahorse, and he could see some of Tooru's essence during the short time he spent with her, and I'm sure that her earnest nature touched him. This episode was pretty much all about Hatori, someone who only appeared briefly previously, but it was still one of the best so far. It was so poignant and beautiful that I can't. "Haru ni narimasu" was one of the lines/moments I never forgot, and it moved me all again. |
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| "If you love her, let her go." So much feels this episode. I'm just wondering whether Akito in this adaptation will be make or female. |
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| This is based on a older shoujo manga series that was created in the late 90. There are tropes in this series that may not appeal to everyone. Probably one of the reasons why I enjoy this show is because I've seen the original and read the manga. It's a series that I still love and appreciate to this day. For those who are complaining about the plot, perhaps it's time to drop the series and move onto other things that won't waste your time. Regarding this episode, I already knew was going to happen but I still loved it. That part of Hatori wiping Kana's memories still made me sad, despite knowing it was going to happen. That side glare that Akito gave Tohru while in the limo though. |
| 臭い- |
| Good episode, must really suck for Hatori to see Kana moving on with life and even finding new love while hes having those painful memories with her and stuck looking after that bitchy akito I hope he finds someone new aswell |
| Was that Mayu-sensei at the end with Kana? Glad to see her ^^ can't remember if she appeared in the old version.. Soumu said: And the way Kana just pops up out of nowhere?? How convenient It's not that convenient tho... They are from the same clan and Hatori and Tohru were near the Sohma house. Anyway, they played that scene exactly like in the manga, fyi. Also, as you know, it's an old story... obviously some events are gonna look convenient lol |
AmyywMay 18, 2019 10:56 AM
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Amyyw said: Was that Mayu-sensei at the end with Kana? Glad to see her ^^ can't remember if she appeared in the old version.. Soumu said: And the way Kana just pops up out of nowhere?? How convenient It's not that convenient tho... They are from the same clan and Hatori and Tohru were near the Sohma house. Anyway, they played that scene exactly like in the manga, fyi. Also, as you know, it's an old story... obviously some events are gonna look convenient lol Yet they hadn't crossed paths in TWO WHOLE YEARS, but they actually do cross paths right at that moment. If that can't be called convenient, I don't know what does. And CMYK also pointed out posts before that their reunion was after Kana came back to Tokyo after being absent for quite a while. So forgive me if I don't believe a bit you say that it was "exactly like that in the manga" And what the fucking hell does it being old has to do with "events are going to look convenient"? There are older titles from the 70s, 80s and early 90s that aren't this atrociously convenient. |
KimurahMay 18, 2019 11:30 AM
Kimurah said: Yet they hadn't crossed paths in TWO WHOLE YEARS, but they actually do cross paths right at that moment. If that can't be called convenient, I don't know what does. I didn't said it wasn't, I said that "it's not THAT convenient" since, like I said before, they are from the clan and they were in front of their clan's house.. also, its almost New Year and Momiji said that the outside people help them prepare for it so there's that x) Kimurah said: So forgive me if I don't believe a bit you say that it was "exactly like that in the manga" Here you have it.. yes the dialogue is a little bit different but the event where she appears behind him while he's sitting on a bench is exactly like in the manga... Kimurah said: And what the fucking hell does it being old has to do with "events are going to look convenient"? There are older titles from the 70s, 80s and early 90s that aren't this atrociously convenient. But there are SOME that are though... |
AmyywMay 18, 2019 12:09 PM
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| What I like about this story is that it takes time for Tooru to meet the 12 zodiac horoscopes. And meet I mean about which animal are they. The curse... Little by little Tooru will know the true meaning about it and how dangerous person is Akito. Not only because what ... did to Hatori. Next episode we will meet another zodiacal character according to manga. |
| What a great episode that was |
| Watashi wa a victim of cyberbullying. Everyday someone online calls me a "weeb" desu. Watashi won't stand for this. 26 percent of bullying victims are chosen due to their race or religion desu. I may look like a basic white boy, but deep down I am Nihongo desu. Watashi religion is anime. Anata wa bullying me because of my race and religion desu ka? Disgusting desu. Anata should be ashamed of yourself, racist pig. A baka gaijin like anata is probably jealous of my race and culture, cause Nippon is more sugoi than your shitty country desu. Watashi pity anata. You'll never be Nihongo like watashi. Educate yourself on nani a "weeb" is. |
| Maybe it's just me but it feels like Tohru (her empathy/kindness/cheerfulness) is being flanderized. I recently rewatched FSN UBW and she is starting to remind me of Shirou, and coming off (at least to me) as mentally ill. |
| did anyone notice the slight change in ED xD the dragon form ? |
| i wish and dream for the Future where everyone i care can Smile happily from their heart. But no matter where i look. how ever i see... there s no me. im not there. Just like that. |
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| Wah... I don’t think I liked this one. Maybe i’m just biased but I believe the original did it best. I spent the whole episode saying “wait! No thats not how it happened!” I know I shouldn’t because duh its a remake but I honestly couldn’t help it. I just didn’t enjoy it honestly. I liked the other episodes a lot but eh this one fell short for me. And also: FUCKING MOMIJI’S VOICE IS GOD AWFUL I THOUGHT IT WOULD GROW ON ME BUT IT STILL HASN’T. ;-; MY BABY BOY |
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Bibimbapski said: This is based on a older shoujo manga series that was created in the late 90. There are tropes in this series that may not appeal to everyone. Probably one of the reasons why I enjoy this show is because I've seen the original and read the manga. It's a series that I still love and appreciate to this day. For those who are complaining about the plot, perhaps it's time to drop the series and move onto other things that won't waste your time. Regarding this episode, I already knew was going to happen but I still loved it. That part of Hatori wiping Kana's memories still made me sad, despite knowing it was going to happen. That side glare that Akito gave Tohru while in the limo though. As much as I hate to say it about my favorite anime ever, I'd agree. If the show isn't hitting any of your buttons by this point, there's not going to be a point in future where it does. Granted, we're only on ep 7 of maybe an estimated 70ish, so no, nothing is due to be explained yet and at this point we're still being introduced to vital characters and at the question-raising period, not the question-answering.... but the heart and emotional core of series is present. There are many surprises and characters still to come, but if the foundation being laid now isn't doing it for you, it's probably not your particular jam. |
| oh fuck i'm crying so damn loud. like ugly crying. hatori's story was so sad but i'm glad he can at least be happy that kana found happiness. it really fucked me up when it turns out she still remembered him and how he was her dream man. fuck - and i cannot stress this enough - akito. this was the first episode of this series where i actually cried. from where it's going now i have a feeling this won't be the last. |
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