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Jan 7, 2019 11:44 AM
#351
chobitsza said: uzee said: Well, the anime did some things differently than both the novel and the manga (I've finished the novels {including the extention ending} and read some of the manga). Like some of the things that were explained weren't supposed to be found out until waaay later (such as the other heroes being from different worlds than the MC). Moreover, that strength he displayed around the guards wasn't supposed to happen, the anime was just spoiling a bit future events Huh? Which novel do you refer to, LN or WN? IIRC the LN have all the scene you mention though, since the anime is based on LN not WN. Guess it was the web novel - for some reason my brain was processing what you wrote as "visual novel" so I was confusing myself. |
Jan 7, 2019 2:25 PM
#352
Quite refreshing to see an isekai anime where the MC is not stupidly strong within 5 minutes of going to a new world, him and Myne had gone hunting a few times and then him fighting the orange balloons all night, he finally reached level 2. Throw in a massive chunk of adversity for the MC to overcome as he gets accused of rape and becomes a social pariah, resulting in him becoming cynical. I feel like there could have been a better way to have the MC get betrayed, like coming up with a story of how the MC had been reckless and gone to an area that was beyond his skill level in an attempt to get stronger. Compared to the cheap and easy rape accusation, which is something that should be taken lightly in any aspect. And then there is the elephant in the room that was slavery. That's been a popular thing in a few isekai manga/anime recently. |
Demyx_IXJan 7, 2019 2:34 PM
Jan 7, 2019 5:11 PM
#353
Renkini said: Finally an isekai show which deviates from the usual tropes. I didn't read the synopsis so this episode came as a pleasant surprise. And I had to fucking read the synopsis, what a disappointment... Liked the episode though still. |
Jan 7, 2019 5:58 PM
#354
Snaita said: Renkini said: Finally an isekai show which deviates from the usual tropes. I didn't read the synopsis so this episode came as a pleasant surprise. And I had to fucking read the synopsis, what a disappointment... Liked the episode though still. That's a shame. I don't like it either because it really hinders us our enjoyment of shows with synopsis like that, writing the plot twist of first episode in plain daylight. MAL should hide it with a spoiler button or replace it with a simpler one. |
Jan 7, 2019 8:02 PM
#355
Actually enjoyed that quite a bit. A few things a found kinda dumb. Firstly was how all the other heroes basically had the same personality as being overly arrogant and demanding pay as soon as they were summoned. Maybe we are suppose to understand it's because they all played a game very similar to this in their own world so they supposedly had some idea of what they were getting into but idk. I don't think they had realized that fact until after the kings explanation. Whatever. The really dumb thing was how gullible everyone was in believing that girl. Like seriously how stupid can they all be. That's just shitty writing. At least the blacksmith guy was nice enough, and obviously something was up with that girl listening in on the trial. Well our protagonist has learned and has become quite the badass tbh. Besides the poorly executed setup with the bitchy girl, I really enjoyed this. The way they are doing the interface and such with the shield is really cool. Overall they did a good job of crafting an MMO world that feels like a real game. |
Jan 7, 2019 10:04 PM
#356
Araragi said: I read the LN but I'm curious what the anime will cover up to. Do we know if this is 2 cour yes, 24 episodes https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/a4blw2/the_rising_of_shield_hero_release_date_episode/ |
Jan 7, 2019 10:50 PM
#357
jal90 said: Must be a slow night at the bistro. I know you'd be here to save us, the great unclean masses. I'm expecting more of your ilk to show up anytime. Any time there's a waifu in trouble, you guys come running. As someone smarter than me said" With 'men' like you running around, no wonder sheep are nervous.Yay, I did watch it! Not going to tackle the moral issues here since it's quite beaten. I'm just going to say that regardless of that the scene of the false rape accusation is just a special kind of bad manipulation with every side character playing the exact role to awake the intended feelings in the MC, in a way that feels absolutely cheesy and dumb. And the resulting rage of Naofumi isn't any better. It's somehow entertaining to watch, but it's rooted on this scene and that hurts it. The problem of this episode is that, if it tried to make me sympathize with Naofumi, this wasn't the right path. If it tried to just make me empathize with him, this is way too heavy-handed, and yet it tries to build emotionally significant moments that don't feel deserved. And if it tried to make a political discourse... well, better not touch that side. At least the visual aspects are on point. The soundtrack could do better though, but it's not the fault of the tracks but how and when they are framed. |
Jan 8, 2019 1:19 AM
#358
Jan 8, 2019 1:25 AM
#359
Lmao at the folks saying this is refreshing compared to other isekai, sure maybe to "modern" isekai. Go actually watch Aura Battler Dunbine, Escaflowne or 12 Kingdoms |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
Jan 8, 2019 1:43 AM
#360
Was alright, has some potential if they execute everything well. Gotta give it to classic MAL users though. First some people hate on the show and make threads about wondering about the high score, then the other side of the coin, the fanboys, come in and make counter threads bitching about those threads and saying they should drop it and watch something else. Maybe everyone just chill and either watch it or don't? |
Jan 8, 2019 2:47 AM
#361
Thought I might give this a go because high ratings lel. But, in the future, I'm keeping myself well distanced from isekai/harem. It irks me how the narratives of the women end up revolving around the male protag. Case in point for ep 1 -- male protag's whole quest is driven by a false rape accusation from a one-dimensional character. Which, I wouldn't mind if they'd developed her some more and gave her more depth and... humanity apart from being yet (another) throwaway plot device, but that's wishful thinking on my part. And could the protag please stop being so thirsty for girls. Just stop. It's repulsive. |
Jan 8, 2019 2:48 AM
#362
NoviSun said: jal90 said: Must be a slow night at the bistro. I know you'd be here to save us, the great unclean masses. I'm expecting more of your ilk to show up anytime. Any time there's a waifu in trouble, you guys come running. As someone smarter than me said" With 'men' like you running around, no wonder sheep are nervous.Yay, I did watch it! Not going to tackle the moral issues here since it's quite beaten. I'm just going to say that regardless of that the scene of the false rape accusation is just a special kind of bad manipulation with every side character playing the exact role to awake the intended feelings in the MC, in a way that feels absolutely cheesy and dumb. And the resulting rage of Naofumi isn't any better. It's somehow entertaining to watch, but it's rooted on this scene and that hurts it. The problem of this episode is that, if it tried to make me sympathize with Naofumi, this wasn't the right path. If it tried to just make me empathize with him, this is way too heavy-handed, and yet it tries to build emotionally significant moments that don't feel deserved. And if it tried to make a political discourse... well, better not touch that side. At least the visual aspects are on point. The soundtrack could do better though, but it's not the fault of the tracks but how and when they are framed. I think you may have a point here, something constructive to say, hidden somewhere. Keep searching! |
Jan 8, 2019 3:36 AM
#363
Pretty good episode. This might just turn out to be a good isekai... Two back to back seasons with one good isekai in both? Who would've thought |
Jan 8, 2019 3:44 AM
#364
wenq said: Thought I might give this a go because high ratings lel. But, in the future, I'm keeping myself well distanced from isekai/harem. It irks me how the narratives of the women end up revolving around the male protag. Case in point for ep 1 -- male protag's whole quest is driven by a false rape accusation from a one-dimensional character. Which, I wouldn't mind if they'd developed her some more and gave her more depth and... humanity apart from being yet (another) throwaway plot device, but that's wishful thinking on my part. And could the protag please stop being so thirsty for girls. Just stop. It's repulsive. Absolutely, you are so right. Please drop it and forget about it forever. Thanks |
Jan 8, 2019 4:19 AM
#365
Woman who falsely accuse a man of rape, if proven, should get at least a decade in jail . ( my opinion , by there was a case like thi in UK if i remember ? ) The thing is ... everyone was set to be an asshole with him from the very start. they all did what they could to fuck his life using whatever means they had. To the people complaining... stop being such NPCs and get a dose of reality... situations like that happen very often.. more than you can imagine... but your NPC news feed wont report it ( goes without saying I guess ) Those were all plot elements that the author choose to make his Revenge Isekai. And there is nothing wrong with that. You dont like it? Get away from it. Simply as that. My kindest regards. |
Jan 8, 2019 4:23 AM
#366
I knew this will be well done Anime the moment I knew the first episode will be 45 min. This show that the studio is actually putting work into this and not just sloppy adaptation. Pacing is good, the animation is good as well, I like the voice acting and music. Shield Bro being tricked and accused by rape is a pretty good start at showing this is no joke and just real one you have to be fucking careful because everyone is after your ass and want to step on you. He already seems like you badass lone wolf tho, he's just 20 years old Otaku student so he should struggle a lot more imo and I hope we see that. I like how he just roll with the salves thing pretty easily and doesn't pull genre BS like "Oh you can't do that!" because he need a comrade pretty badly and at this point, you can't question how you get them Pretty interesting overall. I hope they keep up this |
Jan 8, 2019 4:25 AM
#367
vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. |
Jan 8, 2019 4:34 AM
#368
Hylianticipated said: The setup is basically American politics 101: a nice guy with certain world views appears > the mainstream crowd in power doesn't like his views > some bimbo falsely accuses the nice guy of rape > bimbo is rewarded for the lie > nice guy's life, career, and reputation is ruined forever with no due process. This episode was so fucking good but godDAMN did it make me mad lol. Can't wait for more. I hope his redemption arc includes gutting those other heroes brutally and tormenting the bitch that conned him. INDEEEEEEEEEEED |
Jan 8, 2019 5:20 AM
#369
dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. |
Jan 8, 2019 6:28 AM
#370
jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it |
Jan 8, 2019 6:45 AM
#371
vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. |
Jan 8, 2019 6:54 AM
#372
jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. Aren't you're the one asking to leave your arguments alone tho? That sounds kinda hypocritical to me. Do smth with that bitchy attitude of yours. |
Jan 8, 2019 6:59 AM
#373
vhagar8 said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. Aren't you're the one asking to leave your arguments alone tho? That sounds kinda hypocritical to me. Do smth with that bitchy attitude of yours. Sure bud, I'm going to let two random fragile fanboys tell me what I can and can't post here. In case your terrible reading comprehension didn't catch it, these guys are telling me to not write my opinion, so yeah, this concerns me. And yeah, I'm going to tell them to fuck off any time they try to restrict my freedom to write whatever I want to write about this show in its thread. |
Jan 8, 2019 7:13 AM
#374
jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. Aren't you're the one asking to leave your arguments alone tho? That sounds kinda hypocritical to me. Do smth with that bitchy attitude of yours. Sure bud, I'm going to let two random fragile fanboys tell me what I can and can't post here. In case your terrible reading comprehension didn't catch it, these guys are telling me to not write my opinion, so yeah, this concerns me. And yeah, I'm going to tell them to fuck off any time they try to restrict my freedom to write whatever I want to write about this show in its thread. I'm terrible at reading comprehension, so explain me; These guys "trying to restrict your freedom to write whatever you want" is an issue, but you "trying to restric the author's freedom to write whatever she wants" isn't? If you have a problem with rape accusation just watch another show, no one is forcing you to watch this , but don't make your problem everyones problem |
Jan 8, 2019 7:23 AM
#375
vhagar8 said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. Aren't you're the one asking to leave your arguments alone tho? That sounds kinda hypocritical to me. Do smth with that bitchy attitude of yours. Sure bud, I'm going to let two random fragile fanboys tell me what I can and can't post here. In case your terrible reading comprehension didn't catch it, these guys are telling me to not write my opinion, so yeah, this concerns me. And yeah, I'm going to tell them to fuck off any time they try to restrict my freedom to write whatever I want to write about this show in its thread. I'm terrible at reading comprehension, so explain me; These guys "trying to restrict your freedom to write whatever you want" is an issue, but you trying to restric the author's freedom to write whatever she wants isn't? If you have a problem with rape accusation just watch another show, no one is forcing you to watch this , but don't make your problem everyones problem Did I try to restrict the author's intent and freedom of expression? Is this how you deal with negative criticism? Some of us like to talk both about the stuff we like and the stuff we dislike, which is what forums are for. As far as I'm concerned this is episode 1 discussion thread of Shield Hero, I watched episode 1 of Shield Hero and I have an opinion that I'm going to write because this is what this thread is about. This whole idea that "you are criticizing something, therefore you want to censor it" should die in a fire. |
Jan 8, 2019 7:25 AM
#376
Alright, I was unable to finish this first episode because I was hating how it "characterizes" the main character by just having the world shit on him as opposed to giving him an interesting personality that makes me want to see him triumph. Should I push through these painful parts for what's to come, or if I already dislike it now, I probably won't like it down the line? |
You have shit taste, and then I have taste so shit it makes your taste look good |
Jan 8, 2019 7:28 AM
#377
While it is pretty easy to label this as incel trash, I don’t think the fact people would believe her in the show is dumb or manipulative anyway since they pretty clearly establish that everyone in the town has a low opinion of the Shield Hero from the very start. About the only thing that can promote this is how they need to clarify that the world is operated as a matriarchy, so as to imply that in that kind of world, people would just blindly believe a woman if she cried rape. As for that ANN review crying about a 20 year old otaku having objectifying thoughts about the girl, he’s a guy so lol. He still treats her like a normal person and agrees to get her armor because he knows he needs her to level up. With this concept, it’s really easy to fuck up and come off as “poor nice guy” the anime, and it’s only been the first episode but I would say they handled the first episode pretty well from that aspect. |
Jan 8, 2019 7:31 AM
#378
kofmaster said: ost that are made mutherFUCKING KEVIN PENTIN YOOOOOOO (for those who don't now, he made the Made in Abyss ost, also sorry I'm just being hyped)The best part is the OST. |
Jan 8, 2019 7:32 AM
#379
MaskOfIce said: Well he went through a pretty major personality change after the accusation, so it depends on if you like who he is in the last 10-15 minutes of the episodeAlright, I was unable to finish this first episode because I was hating how it "characterizes" the main character by just having the world shit on him as opposed to giving him an interesting personality that makes me want to see him triumph. Should I push through these painful parts for what's to come, or if I already dislike it now, I probably won't like it down the line? |
Jan 8, 2019 7:33 AM
#380
Hlodwigoat said: But yeah, the OST is really what needs to be talked about. Need Made in abyss S2 ASAPkofmaster said: ost that are made mutherFUCKING KEVIN PENTIN YOOOOOOO (for those who don't now, he made the Made in Abyss ost, also sorry I'm being hyped)The best part is the OST. |
Jan 8, 2019 7:59 AM
#381
VKDOOM said: MaskOfIce said: Well he went through a pretty major personality change after the accusation, so it depends on if you like who he is in the last 10-15 minutes of the episodeAlright, I was unable to finish this first episode because I was hating how it "characterizes" the main character by just having the world shit on him as opposed to giving him an interesting personality that makes me want to see him triumph. Should I push through these painful parts for what's to come, or if I already dislike it now, I probably won't like it down the line? Gotcha. I'll decide when episode 2 rolls around if I feel like watching it. He's more interesting after the accusation, I'll grant that, on the other hand the path to get there felt so contrived and painful I almost don't care. |
MaskOfIceJan 8, 2019 8:26 AM
You have shit taste, and then I have taste so shit it makes your taste look good |
Jan 8, 2019 8:35 AM
#382
Nuba said: I have a feeling you either think this is complete trash or youre a fan of the original source and want to upvote this because of your feelings, there is no way at all a person that isnt "emotionally attached" to this from other sources that isnt the horrible first episode would ever give this anything higher than 1/5 "Because it's impossible for people have an opinion that is different than mine" Yeah, no, sorry, I'm not even that attached to the manga and I actually thought this was a good episode, I'll give a 6.8/10 for the very least. But hey, if you want to keep believing that I must be lying to myself while saying (which i ain't) than go on! I don't really care of what you might say anyway. |
Jan 8, 2019 9:15 AM
#383
It was Ok we got a good understanding of the world and that it has to have MMO elements is not to my personal liking because i still have a trauma from SAO,but they actually explain the MMO system in this show The Characters are pretty shit so far exept Main CHaracter is ok and that weapon trader,the rest of the Heros are so aweful because there all the same,inside the Castle the Characters are not that good either because, they dont even question accusation of rape and even before that grant the other Heros (knowing that there awful bastards) comrades and the shild hero (only one thats actually not an asshole) nothing (exept money) I have a few ideas how they could fix at least the other heros: 1. That red haired bitch betrayes the Blond asshole too and tho he gets some development too 2.One of the Heros loses all comrades and hes the only one to survive begging the other for help and getting no help (other 2 are assholes and shield just had enough of the others) 3.There getting leaved by there comrades because there so shit and then actually see there shit site and try to change that (only some options that i hope will happen because when they stay this way i will highly doubt it will get good) There some more problems with this anime but overall i will watch it because i heard it will get better with actually a good and sometimes meaningful plot |
Jan 8, 2019 9:20 AM
#384
jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. Aren't you're the one asking to leave your arguments alone tho? That sounds kinda hypocritical to me. Do smth with that bitchy attitude of yours. Sure bud, I'm going to let two random fragile fanboys tell me what I can and can't post here. In case your terrible reading comprehension didn't catch it, these guys are telling me to not write my opinion, so yeah, this concerns me. And yeah, I'm going to tell them to fuck off any time they try to restrict my freedom to write whatever I want to write about this show in its thread. No no , you can write whatever you want wherever you want. My point is that ... you will never see any of us in a thread of any of your SJW shows blasting it... and you know why? cause we dont get near shit we dont like. By leave the anime alone thats what he meant... you dont like this stuff... why to bother with it.... |
Jan 8, 2019 9:31 AM
#385
dReams-C said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: vhagar8 said: jal90 said: dReams-C said: vipergod said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: jal90 said: GreenEmu said: R0rack said: ichii_1 said: This is why women do not need equal rights in certain areas, one lie and they ruin anything just because they are women. Can we just talk about how this is the message the first episode is giving and how it's actually a BAD INFLUENCE to the damn audience? Like... entertaining value aside, people can like whatever they like... but that's a pretty bad thing for a show to... say? to make you think? I don't know. The worst thing is... this is not the only Isekai show that does that Stop being an idiot. At no point in this episode did anything even remotely imply any sort of message saying that women don't deserve equal rights. Both the Princess and the King were assholes out to get him from the start. Yeah, and this country was labelled specifically a matriarchy (even though in practice it never once proved to be) because the show didn't totally want to make a discourse about it, and the trigger was a false rape accusation because this isn't a hot topic that anti-feminist trolls indulge in every day. Like you can't get much more obvious in intent than this: Like you stop being an idiot and upfront rejecting any nasty implications. If the show turns another direction in the future, we'll see. Right now it's exploiting rage induction through narrative of male discrimination and yes, it's an issue. Yes because plot point that existed even in the web novel predicted the future and knew the series would get an anime in 2019 that is relevant to the west's current social climate that Japan doesn't give a shit about. Jesus you're dumb. What "nasty implications"? The fact that women like the princess exist? The fact that false rape accusations are made and ruin people's lives because gullible idiots like you fall for the whole listen and believe meme? Also your points about the country not being a matriarchy get proven dead wrong later. You aren't familiar with the source material and you're just throwing out retarded theories in an attempt to politicize this show. Stop embarrassing yourself. What future? False rape rhetorics against feminists predate the #MeToo movement and are a classic retort made by anti-feminists so don't try to go there. Also you are trying to bring the source material proving that you are pretty terrible at reading others' posts. I said that I'm talking about this episode and not about whatever the future awaits in the show. If it ever brings another perspective to the matter and if it ever displays the so-called matriarchy as a factual matriarchy, this will be a valid counterpoint brought by the story. Till then, let me interpret what the show has presented to me so far and don't go calling people stupid. @TsukuyomiREKT Please don't waste my time. I am going go to call you stupid because that's what you are. False rape accusations exist and the horrible women who use it as a weapon exist, that's a fact. I don't know why you're so adamant about denying this and writing it off as "anti feminist rhetoric". I brought up the source material because you made baseless assumptions about the show and tried to present said assumptions in a valid argument. Sorry if I hurt your precious feelings, but maybe next time get off your high horse, Seems like you'r trying to project personal issues onto a dumb isekai anime with your whole "waaaaah this show is anti feminist" so I'll repeat myself, stop embarrassing yourself please. I didn't make baseless assumptions, I made assumptions based on this episode. And false rape accusations exist, but you seem to forget about the part that this is a false rape accusation framed as the event that triggers the disgrace of the MC, in a story where they are given full credibility by a system that calls itself a matriarchy, even despite so far nothing proves that it's structured that way except that they are given full credibility I guess. Oh, and "my personal issues", "my precious feelings" and "my high horse" says the dumbfuck who can't seem to respect the existence of a personal take on an episode that differs from his. You are the second retard today who tries to play that card on me. You should probably stop that, because it really doesn't work and it says more about you than anything. plz Sjw leave the anime alone, u got Kevin Hart recently u got the god damn netfelix! u made goddamn CIRI(witcher) black! u have Supergirl series ,u got batwoman incoming ,u get shit tons of feminist movies and series, but we cant even see a false rape accusation!? u say its a troll? srsly?wow! Griffith plz save us! I make your words my own. 100% agreed. You both are very fragile. I'm watching the show and I have opinions. Deal with it. Well, you're at least as fragile as them, u have opinions, fine, but they do have opinions as well. In this case thier opinion happens to be that your opinion is shit. Deal with it I'm not the one asking to leave the anime alone. Do something with that shitty equidistance of yours. Aren't you're the one asking to leave your arguments alone tho? That sounds kinda hypocritical to me. Do smth with that bitchy attitude of yours. Sure bud, I'm going to let two random fragile fanboys tell me what I can and can't post here. In case your terrible reading comprehension didn't catch it, these guys are telling me to not write my opinion, so yeah, this concerns me. And yeah, I'm going to tell them to fuck off any time they try to restrict my freedom to write whatever I want to write about this show in its thread. No no , you can write whatever you want wherever you want. My point is that ... you will never see any of us in a thread of any of your SJW shows blasting it... and you know why? cause we dont get near shit we dont like. By leave the anime alone thats what he meant... you dont like this stuff... why to bother with it.... I just watched the first episode and again it's my choice to go on with the show or not, seeing that I've been reluctant to dropping stuff for a very long while I'm certain that I'll keep watching, since a weekly dose even for something I end up disliking immensely -which isn't the case so far for this series, I voted the 2/5 option in the poll after all- is bearable. You are making it sound like I would be bothered by you watching a "SJW" show and complaining about its politics. Obviously I'd disagree but it's your take, you deserve to have it, you watched it, you have an opinion and you can share it. So basically this whole issue on whether I should watch it or not is fabricated. I choose how to waste my time, that is not apt for discussion and it shouldn't be any bit controversial. |
Jan 8, 2019 12:17 PM
#387
Omg I hope karma gets them in the end😡 |
Jan 8, 2019 12:52 PM
#388
Jan 8, 2019 1:22 PM
#389
Good, but could have been way better. I expected something more like "show, don't tell": I'm reading the manga and I fell in love with how it perfectly portraits human feelings and behaviors in such realistic way. Yeah, I know this is from the light novel, but here Naofumi's change seemed not only rushed but also really shallow compared to the insane amount of rage he develops towards the people who betrayed him in such a terrible way (and that is going to be a huuuge thing later in the series). That left me kinda unsatisfied. Anyway, the best this anime has to offer has yet to come, so let's hope. 4/5 |
Jan 8, 2019 7:09 PM
#390
OMG! non-sequel AOTS RIGHT HERE! 5/5! i already knew that something not right and everything is fishy! |
matias067Jan 8, 2019 7:13 PM
Jan 8, 2019 8:52 PM
#391
Ow the edge. Hope it gets better. So many shows relying on controversies to pull in viewers lately, like Goblin Slayer before this. Fortunately, Goblin Slayer got a hell of a lot better after the first episode. Maybe Shield Hero can, too. Who knows. Really, what else was this 1st episode besides the false rape accusation? How does it stand out besides that? Guy gets transported to world -> usual, dull isekai tropes abound -> FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION(this isekai is so different and spicy now!) -> MC MAD -> back to usual, dull isekai tropes -> end on slaves, because you can't have an isekai without slaves. Yawn. |
MormegilJan 8, 2019 8:56 PM
Jan 8, 2019 9:17 PM
#392
Mormegil said: Ow the edge. Hope it gets better. So many shows relying on controversies to pull in viewers lately, like Goblin Slayer before this. Fortunately, Goblin Slayer got a hell of a lot better after the first episode. Maybe Shield Hero can, too. Who knows. Really, what else was this 1st episode besides the false rape accusation? How does it stand out besides that? Guy gets transported to world -> usual, dull isekai tropes abound -> FALSE RAPE ACCUSATION(this isekai is so different and spicy now!) -> MC MAD -> back to usual, dull isekai tropes -> end on slaves, because you can't have an isekai without slaves. Yawn. Goblin slayer got better? First ep was great but after that it was nothing but "goblins bad me kill goblins". Shield Hero actually goes somewhere and has multiple meaningful character arcs aside from just the obligatory arc for the titular main character. |
Jan 9, 2019 3:33 AM
#393
Jan 9, 2019 5:22 AM
#394
Interesting premise. Instead of being the strongest Hero that is loved by everyone. We get a main character that get's the weakest class, and on top of that everyone despises him because hes accused of rape. At the end we are introduced to slaves that are bound to a curse which makes them unable to betray or lie to their masters. I'm liking the fact that this show is going on a more darker route instead of the normal comedy "yea im the greatest hero, look everyone loves me." route Also the art style is amazing, especially the backgrounds. |
Jan 9, 2019 6:15 AM
#395
2nd episode still has yet to come out for viewing... |
Jan 9, 2019 6:49 AM
#396
Jan 9, 2019 7:43 AM
#397
BaronBrixius said: Is the 2nd episode going to be out today or next week? It's going to be next week. |
Jan 9, 2019 8:01 AM
#398
just to let people know the first episode official aired today (crunchy had a preview) but the only different between the 2 is the OP at the end. which was pretty good. |
Jan 9, 2019 8:52 AM
#399
pretty generic show tbh, all the characters seem one dimensional, the protagonist didn't get a fair trial because of course everyone are against him. It's probably gonna be as huge as SAO in the future because it's basic and easy to watch |
Jan 9, 2019 9:01 AM
#400
ap1001 said: Huex3 said: shanimebib said: Mohammadalmannai said: Swagernator said: Congintive said: Swagernator said: Oh look another rpg fantasy where MC is a "bad" guy. How many girls will he be having in his harem again? Why u always have that negative mind towards Isekai this is definitely not a Harem well, I guess u gotta see that yourself to believe it though. I just hope that u don't drop it early on I dont know man, its just every time i see something like this, i feel like i already watched it. To be fair, this is one of the first Isekai and it inspired many others Can you define what timeline you are referring to by saying it to be one of the first isekai? Let's just forget about classics like .hack, Fushigi Yuugi, InuYasha, Kyo Kara Maoh, Magic Knight Rayearth, Juuni Kokuki, Zero no Tsukaima just from the top of my head. And then there are all the contemporary ones like Oda Nobuna, Hataraku Maou-sama, Log Horizon, Outbreak Company etc. predate this. Where is the inspiration we are drawing from? I think what he meant was one of the first modern isekai. As in an isekai before the isekai boom that spawned a lot of those shitty isekai (that was 2014 or 2015 I think?). The time this was written was 2012 when "the otaku guy got isekai'd to a game like world to be the chosen hero" was not yet overused and was still a bit fresh. Although I think this is the first one that used the "the hero got betrayed by the country he's suppose to save" premise. I'm not sure, are there others that predates it? In WN world? Yes, the betrayal fics date back to 2009. This one just got more popular amongst a mountain of turd. Well maybe it got popular because it's the one that is good. If there are a hundred of these one of them will eventually be "the good one" right? |
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