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| Elias sure was pretty monstrous in that form...but why do I have the feeling that he fears Cartaphilus? Or perhaps those two have something in common in that they wanted to be different from their original form... That Isabelle Chimera actually looked pretty good too. Looks like something straight out of Shin Megami Tensei... I wonder if Chise being able to stand after taking a hit like that was due to adrenaline. She got up and it seems as her emotions were driving her power. Good thing Elias stopped her before she went out of control. Now we can see how these two need each other. The pact was nice...but it felt like it went on longer than it needed to be. I guess they were just trying to make it pretty... |
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Jk9 said: Simply, best anime of this season... I concur, well said!! |
| The sword that takes life gives life |
| I kind of wish Chise would have went full beast mode there. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
| I'm still wondering why Chise all right after being stabbed. did Elias somehow healed her or she just have regeneration magic cast on her? because I'm pretty sure there's a big hole in her since she stabbed with that big claw. In the end, Elias only attack the Chimera, I actually hoped he attack Cartaphilus too. anyways, I love it when Elias called Cartaphilus name, because it would make him upset and it's very satisfying for me to watch. did Cartaphilus have some connection the the name Ruth? it's like he's shocked from hearing that name. Will O' Wisp, I'm glad to see him and his beautiful blue flame. What happened to Elias back? is it because his transformation drawback? because I don't think Cartaphilus planted something in him without him noticing, it's Elias body after all. |
| Enjoying how they're giving little clues to Chie's past. When Chie was seeing inside Ruth, Ruth was seeing inside her, although you don't get to see it yourself, the fact that it even made Ruth cry gives you an idea of what kind of life she's had to deal with, which a little of it displayed if you've watched the OVAs and if you remember when the dragon took a look into her past. Seems like somethings going to happen to Elias with that bit at the end and you can see his thorns going haywire after he lost his hand trying to grab Chie. His body probably is becoming unstable because of all the damage he took. You can see more in the preview. |
PaulNov 25, 2017 9:37 PM
| Elias in his true form was savage, tearing the Chimera apart like it was nothing. I'm surprised that Chise took seeing it so well. Ruth's backstory was quite sad. Fortunately he could make a pact with Chise. And seeing Chise almost going all out was impressive. For someone, who lived that long, Joseph hasn't learned to choose his battles wisely. |
| You're a louse, Roger Smith. - R. Dorothy Wayneright This is my fight! No Senpai, this is our fight! - Kojou Akatsuki & Yukina Himeragi  |
AnotherGuy said: Why the heck did she give the dog a woman's name? It ruined the mood of the scene, which was otherwise very good. Call him Rex or Milo, but not friggin Ruth! Well, actually, she didn't. She named him ルツ ("roots"), which I personally think should've been translated as Rutz instead of Ruth. Someone else speculated in reply to your post that perhaps the mangaka chose Ruth in` consideration of its meaning. I can understand that, and if the mangaka specifically chose Ruth then that's what they should use in the translation, but I still agree it's still a bad choice (whoever chose it). I'm shocked that no one has mentioned the vagina dentata in the living room: |
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AnotherGuy said: Why the heck did she give the dog a woman's name? It ruined the mood of the scene, which was otherwise very good. Call him Rex or Milo, but not friggin Ruth! Milo? Why the hell would she gave him the name of a hot chocolate Nestle drink |
AnotherGuy said: Why the heck did she give the dog a woman's name? It ruined the mood of the scene, which was otherwise very good. Call him Rex or Milo, but not friggin Ruth! @AnotherGuy , in the manga chise gave him the name ruth because he is a compassionate person , so why would you complain? Tsarko said: HoroSecretDiary said: Something happened to Elia's back when returning home. Was a side effect/wounds from the transformation?. I cant wait to see her going all out!, she did what with the crystal when she didnt even know nothing about magic, I cant wait to see her true powers. I think Cartaphilus did something to Elias without him realising. @Tsarko ,@HoroSecretDiary |
| Pretty exciting episode. That Cartaphilus guy is pretty creepy yeah? The familiar part was pretty cool. Both of them, Chise and Elias almost lost control? Or was Elias in control the whole time- just mad cuz he thought Chise was dead? When Chise got pissed that was pretty interesting- it looked like she probably lost a bit of life cuz of it but it seemed powerful. |
| Great episode, but it's strange how Chise was more or less fine after waking up, even with a gaping wound in her chest still. In any case, I can't help but feel that there's to come as a consequence of Elias going full beast mode in this episode. Also, damn it Jesus, why did you go and give that bastard Cartaphilus the ability to not die? |
| Damn. Elias sure is terrifying in that form. Glad Chise is alive and well. So, Isabelle died because she got hit by a carriage while she was being chased? "It's not our fault". What. I wonder who those people who are chasing after her. Let's call that annoying kid 'Cartaphilus'. Haha. I wanna see him pissed off over that stupid thing. Pffft. How dare that kid used Isabelle! "You're just a monster that found a human body." I wonder who owns the human body Elias' been using all this time. Mhmmm.  This scene is so cute. Haha. Ruth looks like a lost child. Hahahaha! So cute. "The girl has strange taste." What are you talking about, Renfred? Elias is hot, alright. Hahaha. And Ruth is cute. Lmao. Renfred is so cute when he's scolding Alice, though. And Alice's face. Haha. Damn. Chise is such a badass this episode using her powers like that. "She just ate a little of me." - Elias. Waaah. Glad Elias stopped her. We see Chise using her powers briefly and it sure makes her weak afterwards. OHYMYGOD THAT WILL-O'-THE-WISP IS SO CUTE. HE IMMEDIATELY REMINDED ME OF EVE FROM WALL-E WITH THEM EYES. HAHAHAHA. That scene with Chise and Ruth doing the pact kinda reminded me of Unbreakable Vow in Harry Potter. So, Ruth became Chise's familiar after asking her to make the pact and she obliged. When Chise dies, he will die, too. Dang. Like an Unbreakable Vow. Haha. Though, Unbreakable Vow is more on vow that once that person broke it, he's gonna die. And that's how Ruth became a part of their family. Aww. 5/5. <3 Strawberrycake48 said: Sorry Elias, you wanted to marry Chise but she went ahead and married a dog instead. I can't be the only one who thought that pact ritual was like a weird wedding ceremony tho, right? Haha. Same thoughts. The whole pact scene was so cheesy, imho, but find it sweet. Because Ruth have Chise this time. His second Isabelle, I reckon. |
TheDoggoneGirlNov 26, 2017 4:27 AM
     "Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪  ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| Mediocre song tbh, took away from the experience |
| Pacing in this episode felt a tiny bit rushed, but other than that it was pretty good IMO. Visuals and music were top notch stuff as usual. Seeing that piece of shit Cartaphillus get shot sure felt somewhat good. His character is cool though, looking forward to seeing more of him. Though I'm curious, Also: "Let's go home Chise, you must be tired." I mean yeah, she did get stabbed in the stomach... |
| The pact between Chise and Ruth was so cool... this anime always looks so pretty |
| Good episode, as always. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
elytrixx said: AnotherGuy said: I think it works honestly...I honest to god forgot Ruth was even a girl's name until I read this, but I feel like I've seen guys who have the name Ruth. Why the heck did she give the dog a woman's name? It ruined the mood of the scene, which was otherwise very good. Call him Rex or Milo, but not friggin Ruth! Also: Define ruth: compassion for the misery of another; sorrow for one's own faults : remorse I just searched up the name and thats what came up. I feel like that was a REALLY nice touch on the mangaka's part (who prob came up with the name) because it gives the name Chise gave him a deeper meaning and ties in nicely with the whole theme of the episode and their character interaction :) Elias even comments on the name how it fits in the manga but the anime omitted that D:. |
Vivir said: What an interesting episode. Elias looked awesome in that beastly form. I now finally know how Ruth became part of the family. It's sad how his sister died. I guess it was an accident but I'm not completely convinced. It was odd. The dialogue and it happening off screen. I also wonder if they really were brother and sister. They look so drastically different and was she supposed to be a grim too? We never saw her dog form and Ruth never changed forms in the flashbacks. His "father" was also in human form too. In fact, I think they all were in that flashback. Anyways, at least in a way, he has his sister back. She will live on in Chise for however long that may be. I'm not terribly familiar with the source, but I interpreted it as though Ulysse had been a real, actual dog when he was with Isabelle. (You'll notice at the start of the flashback, they have overlaid Ulysse's thoughts on top of a "woof", which tells me that is only capable of communicating the same way other dogs do.) But after she died, he also died, maybe through starvation or loneliness, and transformed into a church grim—perhaps in the same church cemetery where Isabelle was buried. At that point, he became neither dog nor human. It's not uncommon in stories for "ghosts" to fail to realize that they are dead or that they have somehow changed form from their usual lives. In the flashback, I think Ulysse was an authentic dog, and Isabelle was just a human (albeit Sleigh Beggy) and his "sister" more spiritually than actually. To the dog Ulysse, he could only think of Isabelle and her father as his own family. Isabelle was very close to Ulysse, but there was still a distance between them that you can't overcome in any relationship between species. Because of that, though, there's great potential for Ruth to become even closer to Chise over time than he was to Isabelle. I think we see a little of that in the OVA if you've seen it. |
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Not_Important said: Completely unrelated to the episode, but it has been announced that the new themes in the 2nd cour are going to be performed by May'n and AIKI & AKINO from Bless4. First JUNNA, then May'n? Wow. What a coincidence. Those two are actually good friends IRL for obvious reasons lol. I'll be looking forward to that. |
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| I'm starting to regret some of my choices for 10/10 shows after seeing this amazing show. I don't want it to end! |
| Seeing Chise getting all furious at the little bastard called Cartaphilus took me by surprise, as did the moment when Elias went to hold her back and his hand immediately got vanquished. Dayum... O_O It was also scarily epic to see Elias' monster form rip the crap out of Cartaphilus' first chimera, bit by bit. Will' 'O' the Wisp's appearance was really cute as he helped the group to gain some breathing space from Cartaphilus for a bit, but the little shit found them anyway. Then came the pact between Chise and Ruth, and man did the scene leave me feeling some goosebumps, mainly thanks to the song that played during the scene. It was also nice to see Ruth being able to put Isabelle's chimera form out of commission, so now she can finally rest in peace. =) The only thing that I can question is Elias at the end. He was looking at his back for a while, so I wonder if he got hit in that specific spot by Cartaphilus or someone else? I hope the show will tell us the answer to that question soon enough. =) |
| Now I really wanna know who Cartaphilus is based on? He kinda resembles many different chara from various analogy. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| İs there anyone who knows the ost ? |
Mouloxas said: It has already been established that Chise has been learning magic from Elias and has a talent for it. Yeah, but Chise is just an apprentice for now. So, it's strange. Many pages are making memes with this too. |
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Jalter said: Mouloxas said: It has already been established that Chise has been learning magic from Elias and has a talent for it. Yeah, but Chise is just an apprentice for now. So, it's strange. Many pages are making memes with this too. She doesn't need to know actual (or specific) magic to use her powers. She only needs information, what she utilized here is that wasps counter spiders which she could have read in any book. In a way she can kinda cheat because she is so strong by default that her imagination is enough, aka what happened with the flowers at the beginning. Of course, when she uses existing chants she can do more complex things like that purification earlier. Her imagination is pretty much only useful for manifesting things. |
| A very touching episode, you can not feel sad and let go of feelings. I really liked the work done to tie Ulysse to Chise in the narration. Eventually the narrative rhythm will also be slow, but time is always well spent. Interestingly, Chise's reaction to danger, touching the narration at the stage when Chise and Ruth signed their covenant, but the background music I did not appreciate much, could do better. Cute Will or 'The Wisp character. <3 |
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Code_Lies said: Milo? Why the hell would she gave him the name of a hot chocolate Nestle drink Cause he's a dog and Milo is a dog's name. Anyway, I think people are right about the mangaka going for the meaning and not realizing it was a woman's name. Ruth is kind of a rare name and the author is Japanese, so it'd be hard for him to know this. |
| that was so cringy episode x) |
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| Am I the only one who felt like the bond between Chise and Ruth happened just a tad bit too quickly? That insert song though ( ´ ▽ ` ) |
| Cartophilus was the original name of the legendary Wandering Jew. According to legend he cursed Christ as he was led in chains to Calvary. Oy vey! This series is my weekly reminder of Eurpean faerie lore - black dogs, will-o-wisps, magical cats..... |
| Chise has some thick plot armour ...I wonder what that back shot at Elias was though. |
el4h3 said: I see that everyone's been having confusion about Chize's immediate recovery from what seemed to be a lethal wound. I myself shared the same feeling while reading the manga. I thought it was a bit too much pushing over the boundaries of fantasy. Though it is only later mentioned by one of the characters that Sleigh Beggys are blessed with the gift of endless healing in their otherwise short life. She ate elias (giggity) and magic charcoal. Now this feels like edgy natsume with a black doge instead of a white one. |
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Strawberrycake48 said: Anyway, I think Ruth will make a great addition to the cast. I just hope he doesn't end up largely ignored like Silky has been so far. Seriously, what is the point of her character? She's my only complaint in the series so far because she's added nothing. It sticks out like a sore thumb because all the other characters have pretty well-defined roles. I'm just hoping she'll get an arc or something eventually. Can any manga readers give me a heads up?? Silky isn't ignored, she's just naturally "useless". She doesn't have a purpose except for the house. It's explained in the manga and it's quite interesting and heartwarming. I don't think her character is meant to have a bigger role in the main plot. But she does represent the house Chise goes home to so I think it's a pretty important and sweet role. |
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| Well... this was an... eventful episode... They kind of goofed around a bit with the chibi forms, which kind of ruined the feel of the episode, but it was still damn good anyway. |
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G_Spark233 said: I wish they did a better job explaining how Chise survived but I really liked her in this episode. She only got hit in the arm... |
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